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Gen. Ripper: Jan 12, 2013

T-man posted:

"You know who else thought homosexuals should stop existing? "

"I think you will find that homosexuals are the REAL Nazis because they won't tolerate my intolerance. :smuggo:

# ? Sep 3, 2013 04:45

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# ? Jun 13, 2024 01:02

Dr. Arbitrary: Mar 15, 2006; Bleak Gremlin

If they don't want to be held to the medical professional standard, they don't get to present themselves as medical professionals.

If you are a doctor and have a religious belief that organ transplantation or blood transfusion is immoral, that's okay, but you can't let that belief cross into your professional duty as a doctor.

# ? Sep 3, 2013 04:53

Fulchrum: Apr 16, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Gen. Ripper posted:

"I think you will find that homosexuals are the REAL Nazis because they won't tolerate my intolerance. "

Or, according to Freep, "I think you'll find that all the REAL Nazis were homosexuals who faked any kind of persecution against gays in the last days of the war so they wouldn't be tried for their gay-caused crimes :smuggo:

# ? Sep 3, 2013 05:05

RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

There were literal gay nazis. QED.

# ? Sep 3, 2013 05:19

UnmaskedGremlin: May 28, 2002; I hear there's gonna be cake!

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

And as a consumer who would like to support good labor practices, it's infuriating, because if I don't go get fast food (not a common occurrence anyway) I'm still supporting bad labor practices because I can't name an industry that doesn't treat their employees like poo poo that most Americans have to interact with on a regular basis.

Its really tough, thats for drat sure. I wish I had a closer Costco, but even still I try to avoid the Walmarts of the world if I can help it.

# ? Sep 3, 2013 05:21

Fulchrum: Apr 16, 2013; by R. Guyovich

RagnarokAngel posted:

There were literal gay nazis. QED.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pink_Swastika

# ? Sep 3, 2013 05:23

VideoTapir: Oct 18, 2005; He'll tire eventually.

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

I can tell you that if you somehow can tolerate getting a philosophy degree you're not going to be inclined to think it's a mistake.

(I say this as someone writing a dissertation in philosophy so I may be a bit biased )

Philosophy + programming skills = the opposite of a mistake.

# ? Sep 3, 2013 05:24

RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

And as a consumer who would like to support good labor practices, it's infuriating, because if I don't go get fast food (not a common occurrence anyway) I'm still supporting bad labor practices because I can't name an industry that doesn't treat their employees like poo poo that most Americans have to interact with on a regular basis.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/08/30/2556301/burrito-chain-pays-entry-level-workers-10-hour-pay/

It might be faint praise but there's a few listed here. Boloco (in Boston), In-N-Out, Dick's Drive-In (Seattle) and Moo Cluck Moo (Detroit) all pay at least $10 an hour for entry level workers. I guess that's also commentary on how shameful labor is in general, but it's a start.

# ? Sep 3, 2013 05:27

Name Change: Oct 9, 2005

RagnarokAngel posted:

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/08/30/2556301/burrito-chain-pays-entry-level-workers-10-hour-pay/

It might be faint praise but there's a few listed here. Boloco (in Boston), In-N-Out, Dick's Drive-In (Seattle) and Moo Cluck Moo (Detroit) all pay at least $10 an hour for entry level workers. I guess that's also commentary on how shameful labor is in general, but it's a start.

It's pretty faint praise, since $10 is still below the cost of living pretty much everywhere.

# ? Sep 3, 2013 05:44

VideoTapir: Oct 18, 2005; He'll tire eventually.

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

It's pretty faint praise, since $10 is still below the cost of living pretty much everywhere.

In-N-Out is 11 bucks an hour in Kingman, AZ; apart from health insurance, that's doable.

Regardless, the mantra should be "if In-N-Out/Costco/Etc. can do it, why can't McDonald's/Taco Bell/Etc?"

# ? Sep 3, 2013 05:46

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

VideoTapir posted:

In-N-Out is 11 bucks an hour in Kingman, AZ; apart from health insurance, that's doable.

Regardless, the mantra should be "if In-N-Out/Costco/Etc. can do it, why can't McDonald's/Taco Bell/Etc?"

But you have to live in Kingman.

I like that line, I'm going to steal it, thanks.

# ? Sep 3, 2013 05:48

coronaball: Feb 6, 2005; You're finished, pork-o-nazi!

Anybody have the link to that 20-something page PDF on the statistical improbability of voter fraud? I need it to shut down a voter ID supporter on Facebook.

# ? Sep 3, 2013 05:56

VideoTapir: Oct 18, 2005; He'll tire eventually.

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

But you have to live in Kingman.

I like that line, I'm going to steal it, thanks.

For people who already do, and for whatever reason don't mind, I don't think it's a problem. But half of those people do too much meth to hold a job for long.

# ? Sep 3, 2013 05:57

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

If they don't want to be held to the medical professional standard, they don't get to present themselves as medical professionals.

If you are a doctor and have a religious belief that organ transplantation or blood transfusion is immoral, that's okay, but you can't let that belief cross into your professional duty as a doctor.

There's doctors, and then there's abortion doctors. :black101:

# ? Sep 3, 2013 06:49

FactsAreUseless: Feb 16, 2011

I just found this in a Craigslist rant and rave and I'm not sure where else to post it. It is a seriously huge pile of weird nonsense.

quote:

The below summarization of Barack and Michelle Obama's 5 year reign in the White House is by far the best I've ever read as it squarely hits the nail on the head. And it took a black reporter writing it to make it as effective as it is. A white man's account would be instantly criticized by the liberal media as pure racism. But, how can anyone scream Racist when an exacting description of the Obamas is penned by a well known journalist of color?

BEST SUMMATION OF BARACK AND MICHELLE EVER!
Mychal Massie is a respected writer and talk show host in Los Angeles.

The other evening on my twitter, a person asked me why I didn't like the Obama's? Specifically I was asked: "I have to ask, why do you hate the Obama's? It seems personal, not policy related. You even dissed (disrespect) their Christmas family picture."

The truth is I do not like the Obamas, what they represent, their ideology, and I certainly do not like his policies and legislation. I've made no secret of my contempt for the Obamas. As I responded to the person who asked me the aforementioned question, I don't like them because they are committed to the fundamental change of my/our country into what can only be regarded as a Communist state.

I don't hate them per definition, but I condemn them because they are the worst kind of racialists, they are elitist Leninists with contempt for traditional America. They display disrespect for the sanctity of the office he holds, and for those who are willing to admit same, Michelle Obama's raw contempt for white America is transpicuous. I don't like them because they comport themselves as emperor and empress.

I expect, no I demand respect, for the Office of President and a love of our country and her citizenry from the leader entrusted with the governance of same. President and Mrs. Reagan displayed an unparalleled love for the country and her people.

The Reagan's made Americans feel good about themselves and about what we could accomplish. Obama's arrogance by appointing 32 leftist czars and constantly bypassing congress is impeachable. Eric Holder is probably the MOST incompetent and arrogant DOJ head to ever hold the job. Could you envision President Reagan instructing his Justice Department to act like jack-booted thugs?

Presidents are politicians and all politicians are known and pretty much expected to manipulate the truth, if not outright lie, but even using that low standard, the Obama's have taken lies, dishonesty, deceit, mendacity, subterfuge and obfuscation to new depths. They are verbally abusive to the citizenry, and they display an animus for civility.

I do not like them, because they both display bigotry overtly, as in the case of Harvard Professor Louis Gates, when he accused the Cambridge Police of acting stupidly, and her code speak pursuant to not being able to be proud of America. I view that statement and that mindset as an insult to those who died to provide a country where a Kenyan, his illegal alien relatives, and his alleged progeny, could come and not only live freely, but rise to the highest, most powerful, position in the world.

Michelle Obama is free to hate and disparage whites because Americans of every description paid with their blood to ensure her right to do same. I have a saying, that "the only reason a person hides things, is because they have something to hide." No president in history has spent millions of dollars to keep his records and his past sealed.

And what the two of them have shared has been proved to be lies. He lied about when and how they met, he lied about his mother's death and problems with insurance, Michelle lied to a crowd pursuant to nearly $500,000 bank stocks they inherited from his family. He has lied about his father's military service, about the civil rights movement, ad nausea. He lied to the world about the Supreme Court in a State of the Union address. He berated and publicly insulted a sitting Congressman. He has surrounded himself with the most rabidly, radical, socialist academicians today.

He opposed rulings that protected women and children that even Planned Parenthood did not seek to support. He is openly hostile to business and aggressively hostile to Israel. His wife treats being the First Lady as her personal American Express Black Card (arguably the most prestigious credit card in the world). I condemn them because, as people are suffering, losing their homes, their jobs, their retirements, he and his family are arrogantly showing off their life of entitlement - as he goes about creating and fomenting class warfare.

I don't like them, and I neither apologize nor retreat from my public condemnation of them and of his policies. We should condemn them for the disrespect they show our people, for his willful and unconstitutional actions pursuant to obeying the Constitutional parameters he is bound by, and his willful disregard for Congressional authority.

Dislike for them has nothing to do with the color of their skin; it has everything to do with their behavior, attitudes, and policies. And I have open scorn for their constantly playing the race card.

I could go on, but let me conclude with this. I condemn in the strongest possible terms the media for refusing to investigate them, as they did President Bush and President Clinton, and for refusing to label them for what they truly are. There is no scenario known to man, whereby a white president and his wife could ignore laws, flaunt their position, and lord over the people, as these two are permitted out of fear for their color.

As I wrote in a syndicated column titled, "Nero In The White House" - "Never in my life, inside or outside of politics, have I witnessed such dishonesty in a political leader. He is the most mendacious political figure I have ever witnessed. Even by the low standards of his presidential predecessors, his narcissistic, contumacious arrogance is unequalled. Using Obama as the bar, Nero would have to be elevated to sainthood...

Many in America wanted to be proud when the first person of color was elected president, but instead, they have been witness to a congenital liar, a woman who has been ashamed of America her entire life, failed policies, intimidation, and a commonality hitherto not witnessed in political leaders. He and his wife view their life at our expense as an entitlement - while America's people go homeless, hungry and unemployed."

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Shalebridge Cradle: Apr 23, 2008

FactsAreUseless posted:

I just found this in a Craigslist rant and rave and I'm not sure where else to post it. It is a seriously huge pile of weird nonsense.

Mychal Massie is a crazy person. Seriously. He called the NAACP "godless servants of the devil" because they said an endorsement by Billy Graham implied Obama was not a Christian.

He also said "...if the Obamas were Christians, we would see the witness of the Spirit of God in the way he and his wife comport themselves. It�s not that we don�t know them by their fruit, because we do � their fruit is the fruit of Satan."

On World Net Daily, of course.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/blacks-misled-by-their-godless-clergy/

# ? Sep 3, 2013 08:00

tetrapyloctomy: Feb 18, 2003; Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.; Nap Ghost

gradenko_2000 posted:

There's doctors, and then there's abortion doctors.

Anyone who says that ending a life is "never a 'maternity' service" clearly has never seen a woman writhing on a gurney, screaming in agony as her abdomen fills with blood from a ruptured ectopic pregnancy. But hey, I hear the world looks sharper in black and white.

# ? Sep 3, 2013 13:26

Neptr: Mar 1, 2011

gradenko_2000 posted:

There's doctors, and then there's abortion doctors.

We have to have lawyers who defend murderers and rapists, but they don't have to morally agree with their clients' choices.

Don't use this argument though, it will just tease out the worst responses.

# ? Sep 3, 2013 14:22

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

gradenko_2000 posted:

There's doctors, and then there's abortion doctors.

Generally, if a doctor disagrees morally with a procedure that is medically indicated, they're obligated to find a doctor for the patient who is willing to perform the procedure, or perform the procedure themselves anyway. But if they disagree morally with it, chances are they aren't competent in it, so they can't perform it, and don't have to. And if you get squeamish at referring patients to others to perform these procedures, tough poo poo, go back and read the AMA code of ethics (or recall the principle of beneficence from your medical ethics class) and try again.

Also, the 'do no harm' principle is an on balance principle. If it were absolute then the tragic cases of conjoined twins, where one is dependent on the other for survival and killing the other, would not result in what they do: one kid dies, the other lives. Or chemotherapy wouldn't be recommended, because it's seriously tough on the body and causes harm. Taking it to be absolute is just disastrous for medicine, but thankfully doctors don't do that!

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Bubbacub: Apr 17, 2001

Has anyone done a survey to find out what percentage of doctors are actually both medically qualified but morally opposed to abortion?

# ? Sep 3, 2013 14:40

LunarShadow: Aug 15, 2013

Had just read that Mychal Massie thing on here, switched to Facebook and it was literally the first thing in my feed. Well, I know what is time to do :commissar:

# ? Sep 3, 2013 15:10

Craftics: Jan 31, 2006; fuckin yeah

I literally laughed out loud and kind of choked on my coffee a little bit when I read "The Reagans made Americans feel good about themselves". This is where we're at as a country now, the president should just make us "feel good about ourselves" :suicide:

# ? Sep 3, 2013 19:25

Nenonen: Oct 22, 2009; Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Craftics posted:

I literally laughed out loud and kind of choked on my coffee a little bit when I read "The Reagans made Americans feel good about themselves". This is where we're at as a country now, the president should just make us "feel good about ourselves"

Makes sense, :feelsgood:

looks much like Reagan.

# ? Sep 3, 2013 19:43

Yawgmoft: Nov 15, 2004

Do you think Reagan would EVER support jack booted thugs?!

# ? Sep 3, 2013 19:52

Inspector Hound: Jul 14, 2003

How explicit was Reagan's support for apartheid I'm South Africa? Was it just "blowing stuff up is terrorism, the ANC are terrorists"?

# ? Sep 3, 2013 19:58

Mo_Steel: Mar 7, 2008; Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together; Fun Shoe

coronaball posted:

Anybody have the link to that 20-something page PDF on the statistical improbability of voter fraud? I need it to shut down a voter ID supporter on Facebook.

Here's what I have on Voter ID:

The Challenges With Obtaining Voter ID - I'll just let the Executive Summary do the talking:

quote:

The 11 percent of eligible voters who lack the required photo ID must travel to a designated government office to obtain one. Yet many citizens will have trouble making this trip. In the 10 states with restrictive voter ID laws:

Nearly 500,000 eligible voters do not have access to a vehicle and live more than 10 miles from the nearest state ID-issuing office open more than two days a week. Many of them live in rural areas with dwindling public transportation options.

More than 10 million eligible voters live more than 10 miles from their nearest state ID-issuing office open more than two days a week.

1.2 million eligible black voters and 500,000 eligible Hispanic voters live more than 10 miles from their nearest ID-issuing office open more than two days a week. People of color are more likely to be disenfranchised by these laws since they are less likely to have photo ID than the general population.

Many ID-issuing offices maintain limited business hours. For example, the office in Sauk City, Wisconsin is open only on the fifth Wednesday of any month. But only four months in 2012 � February, May, August, and October � have five Wednesdays. In other states � Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, and Texas � many part-time ID-issuing offices are in the rural regions with the highest concentrations of people of color and people in poverty.

More than 1 million eligible voters in these states fall below the federal poverty line and live more than 10 miles from their nearest ID-issuing office open more than two days a week. These voters may be particularly affected by the significant costs of the documentation required to obtain a photo ID. Birth certificates can cost between $8 and $25. Marriage licenses, required for married women whose birth certificates include a maiden name, can cost between $8 and $20. By comparison, the notorious poll tax � outlawed during the civil rights era � cost $10.64 in current dollars.

The result is plain: Voter ID laws will make it harder for hundreds of thousands of poor Americans to vote. They place a serious burden on a core constitutional right that should be universally available to every American citizen.

Election Fraud in America - The most comprehensive database of electoral fraud (alleged and convicted) that I've found for the United States, spanning from 2000 to 2012. I used that data to make a quick example some time back in this thread; I'm going to revise it so that it's even more blatantly obvious how stupid voter fraud arguments are.

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In 2008, if you include all instances of fraud by voters (including fraud that voter ID wouldn't stop, like absentee ballot fraud, vote buying, etc.), there were 128 cases of alleged fraud by voters nationwide. I'm going to be super duper generous and say that 99% of all electoral fraud goes unreported and uncaught, which is a bullshit statistic I'm pulling out of my rear end but we'll go with the benefit for those alleging massive fraud.

Using that estimate in the 2008 election 12,800 voters committed electoral fraud. I'm going to be even more generous to the argument and say that for maximum electoral fuckup all 12,800 of those fraudulent actions committed resulted in votes for just one candidate, Barack Obama. In 2008 131 million people voted, and Obama/Biden won the popular vote by almost 10 million votes.

If 99% of electoral fraud by voters in 2008 went uncaught and all forms of voter fraud resulted in votes that went in favor of Barack Obama, those votes would constitute 0.124% of the difference in votes between the two leading campaigns, or one-tenth of one percent. Let's go even further and imagine all those votes went for Obama in the closest state that he managed to win, North Carolina, worth 15 electoral college points. Obama/Biden won NC by 14,177 votes.

Voter ID is a literal waste of MY TAX DOLLARS on a problem that doesn't exist; if we're going to waste money solving problems that don't exist, I at least require that we aren't infringing on the rights of other voters in the process, so just buy and require the use of indelible ink at polling locations. If you want to vote twice or impersonate someone else you need to cut off your own fingers to manage it.

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Yawgmoft posted:

Do you think Reagan would EVER support jack booted thugs?!

Reagaaaaaaaaaaaaaan! :argh:

Mo_Steel fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Sep 3, 2013

# ? Sep 3, 2013 20:45

Kro-Bar: Jul 24, 2004; USPOL May

Christ, my (I thought) reasonable brother-in-law posted this video. Apparently because we put fluoride in our water we are engaging in chemical warfare on Americans. :tinfoil:

# ? Sep 3, 2013 20:50

Mister Bates: Aug 4, 2010

FactsAreUseless posted:

I just found this in a Craigslist rant and rave and I'm not sure where else to post it. It is a seriously huge pile of weird nonsense.

"America is being fundamentally changed into a Communist state!" the man typed on his privately-owned computer manufactured by a private company and purchased at a privately-owned store, after reading a comment on the privately-owned service Twitter that made him angry. Once this rant was written, he would connect to the Internet through a service provided by his privately-owned ISP and post it on Facebook, a service provided by a privately-owned corporation. Privately he wondered why so many people had trouble seeing the obvious taint of radical communism infecting American life.

Oh, and Ronald Reagan was a worthless scumbag who supported apartheid, armed and trained the death squads of brutal Central American dictators, funded the Taliban, and sold arms to Saddam. The world is better off now that he is dead.

# ? Sep 3, 2013 22:39

Dr. Arbitrary: Mar 15, 2006; Bleak Gremlin

Kro-Bar posted:

Christ, my (I thought) reasonable brother-in-law posted this video. Apparently because we put fluoride in our water we are engaging in chemical warfare on Americans.

I guess this all makes sense if you think that Methylphosphonyl difluoride is exactly the same thing as Sodium Fluoride.

Does anyone know if the positive tests for Sarin precursors used ICPMS and if so, anyone know if it can distinguish between Methylphosphonyl difluoride (or whatever precursor was found) and hair from people who consume water with levels of fluoride found in Syria?

I want to say yes but I'm not a chemist.

Edit:
Spoke with a Chemist. Mass spectrometry will absolutely be able to distinguish between Sodium Fluoride and Methylphosphonyl difluoride.

Dr. Arbitrary fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Sep 4, 2013

# ? Sep 3, 2013 23:35

Wojtek: Oct 17, 2008

FactsAreUseless posted:

I just found this in a Craigslist rant and rave and I'm not sure where else to post it. It is a seriously huge pile of weird nonsense.

I saw this posted ironically by a friend but forgot to post it here. My favorite part is the pre-dismissal of "THATS RACIST" because the author knew it would be coming :allears:

# ? Sep 4, 2013 00:17

miscellaneous14: Mar 27, 2010; neat

While not directly political, I thought I'd post this here since it's basically rape_culture.txt. For those not familiar with the subject matter, I'll sum it up with "popular webcomic uses rape as the butt of a joke, a lot of people criticize them, and several years later the artist of the comic is still being a giant rear end about it".

The comment of theirs that got cut off was:

quote:

1. the number of est rape victims that one guy has posted couldnt be true
2. like school shootings and suuch and nuclear weapons to country power rape is driven by fear the more its spoken in fear the more its likely to happened because people know it grabs attention to people or can be used against societies
3.they have the right to be offended but they need to get stronger by it and be able to talk to someone about it and be able to ignore it and be prepared than sit around wrorried about words and get frustrated about open speech as a joke in it's own environment then as a crisis

I love it when people pull random ideas out of their rear end and try to use them in a debate. I love it less when people with opinions like this person make up a large majority of this country's population.

# ? Sep 4, 2013 00:18

PandaPropaganda: Apr 22, 2008

miscellaneous14 posted:

While not directly political, I thought I'd post this here since it's basically rape_culture.txt. For those not familiar with the subject matter, I'll sum it up with "popular webcomic uses rape as the butt of a joke, a lot of people criticize them, and several years later the artist of the comic is still being a giant rear end about it".

The comment of theirs that got cut off was:

I love it when people pull random ideas out of their rear end and try to use them in a debate. I love it less when people with opinions like this person make up a large majority of this country's population.

Krahulik has been an rear end about it because its literally a nothing issue. Its a webcomic about videogames that specializes in dick/fart jokes. Rape wasn't even the joke, it was just mentioned. Was it a good decision on their part? Obviously no, in hindsight, given the backlash. They weren't glorifying rape, they weren't excusing or encouraging rape.

Edit: Apparently I was wrong and they never took it down. I could have sworn they did. I may have been thinking of the shirts and other merch being removed from the store. Appreciate the correction.

PandaPropaganda fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Sep 4, 2013

# ? Sep 4, 2013 01:05

Plom Bar: Jun 5, 2004; hardest time i ever done

They didn't pull it down.

# ? Sep 4, 2013 01:28

Nathilus: Apr 4, 2002; I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.

miscellaneous14 posted:

While not directly political, I thought I'd post this here since it's basically rape_culture.txt. For those not familiar with the subject matter, I'll sum it up with "popular webcomic uses rape as the butt of a joke, a lot of people criticize them, and several years later the artist of the comic is still being a giant rear end about it".

Dickwolves, right? It's the voter fraudiest issue of the internet. A complete non-issue that has been blown up by a small minority refusing to let it go. That was over two years ago for christ's sake, why are people still talking about it? Did you know that George Carlin once made a rape joke? Something about Porky Pig and Elmer Fudd. It makes you wonder if people will still be arguing about this in 20 years.

I accept that rape culture is bad, and that a lot of misogynist poo poo still flies around freely. The dickwolves comic wasn't a great example, however. It's downright petty and has no place in the wider discourse.

For those of you without terrible taste in webcomics who need context, here you go. That article has the strip in question. You can ignore the analysis, I didn't even read it.

# ? Sep 4, 2013 01:43

greatn: Nov 15, 2006; by Lowtax

Mike's the one who won't let it go. He wears a shirt with the slogan all the time.

# ? Sep 4, 2013 01:46

miscellaneous14: Mar 27, 2010; neat

Nathilus posted:

A complete non-issue that has been blown up by a small minority refusing to let it go.

The whole thing had been largely forgotten, until a recent convention where he thought it'd be a great idea to bring it up again. Mike's been dragging this issue out for years, when the easy solution would be to just shut up and never bring it up again.

This is heading towards videogame drama chat though, whereas the focus should be more on how holy poo poo, people really think that creating more negative media attention towards rape will somehow encourage it because...school shootings? :psyduck:

# ? Sep 4, 2013 01:58

Name Change: Oct 9, 2005

Some of my best friends are rapists, I rape people all the time.

# ? Sep 4, 2013 02:04

Phone: Jul 30, 2005; 親子丼をほしい。

Here's the issue: Mike made a comic, a few people responded to it and was like, "hey this isn't cool, here's why" and instead of being an adult and responding with something along the lines of, "I understand your concern and I'm sorry if we offended you, that wasn't our intention" Mike decided to go nuclear and literally go:

HAHAHAHAH LOOK AT THESE PEOPLE BEING OFFENDED BY RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE BUY A SHIRT RAPE HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

Yeah, it's a simplification of the issue; however, Mike's handling of it has been extremely redditish.

# ? Sep 4, 2013 02:06

Nathilus: Apr 4, 2002; I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.

miscellaneous14 posted:

The whole thing had been largely forgotten, until a recent convention where he thought it'd be a great idea to bring it up again. Mike's been dragging this issue out for years, when the easy solution would be to just shut up and never bring it up again.

Well that is very dumb of him, both on a PR and interpersonal level. It's one thing to crack a crap joke that will obviously offend some of your readers then very publically roll your eyes about it, but quite another level of stupidity to keep it up after years.

# ? Sep 4, 2013 02:07

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# ? Jun 13, 2024 01:02

Push El Burrito: May 9, 2006; Soiled Meat

Mo_Steel posted:

Here's what I have on Voter ID:

The Challenges With Obtaining Voter ID - I'll just let the Executive Summary do the talking:

Election Fraud in America - The most comprehensive database of electoral fraud (alleged and convicted) that I've found for the United States, spanning from 2000 to 2012. I used that data to make a quick example some time back in this thread; I'm going to revise it so that it's even more blatantly obvious how stupid voter fraud arguments are.

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In 2008, if you include all instances of fraud by voters (including fraud that voter ID wouldn't stop, like absentee ballot fraud, vote buying, etc.), there were 128 cases of alleged fraud by voters nationwide. I'm going to be super duper generous and say that 99% of all electoral fraud goes unreported and uncaught, which is a bullshit statistic I'm pulling out of my rear end but we'll go with the benefit for those alleging massive fraud.

Using that estimate in the 2008 election 12,800 voters committed electoral fraud. I'm going to be even more generous to the argument and say that for maximum electoral fuckup all 12,800 of those fraudulent actions committed resulted in votes for just one candidate, Barack Obama. In 2008 131 million people voted, and Obama/Biden won the popular vote by almost 10 million votes.

If 99% of electoral fraud by voters in 2008 went uncaught and all forms of voter fraud resulted in votes that went in favor of Barack Obama, those votes would constitute 0.124% of the difference in votes between the two leading campaigns, or one-tenth of one percent. Let's go even further and imagine all those votes went for Obama in the closest state that he managed to win, North Carolina, worth 15 electoral college points. Obama/Biden won NC by 14,177 votes.

Voter ID is a literal waste of MY TAX DOLLARS on a problem that doesn't exist; if we're going to waste money solving problems that don't exist, I at least require that we aren't infringing on the rights of other voters in the process, so just buy and require the use of indelible ink at polling locations. If you want to vote twice or impersonate someone else you need to cut off your own fingers to manage it.

I'm stealing all of this if you don't mind.

# ? Sep 4, 2013 02:12

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