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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:Is the best bet to just wait for whenever they release 7.0 and play vanilla until then? I've been waiting almost three years for that already, so probably not. NihilVerumNisiMors posted:I've been trying to capture the Black Ship 10 times or so now and it always just sinks. My last attempt even had enough boarders on it to almost capture it but then for some reason they decided to rout because ???, sinking at again. :wat: Keep trying. You'll get it eventually. I posted this same problem a few pages back. It seems like it's harder to get than it used to be when the game first came out, but maybe that's my imagination. I even had one time where it said the ship surrendered and I still didn't get it. The only advice I can give is to try and attack it with two or three full fleets and use a lot of medium bunes and bow kobayas at first to soften it up, then bring in heavy bunes to board (assuming that you get it early enough in the game that you don't have any better ships than that, which is usually when it seems to show up). And avoid using fire arrows except for very early in the battle when the Black Ship still has a lot of energy left and is less prone to going up in flames.
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In regards to wall climbing in shogun 2, just a fun thing to note is that ninja units are fast climbers and never slip off the walls.
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NihilVerumNisiMors posted:Can the AI in Shogun 2 see hidden units? I'm getting the creeping suspicion it can. Is your game modded at all? What difficulty are you playing on? I'm curious what gave you the suspicion because I've always found kisho ninja to be hilarious against AI units since every battle consists of the standard tactics + 2 units of kisho ninja which can basically walk right behind/alongside an enemy army through a forest like anime ninja and wait until the proper time to double click and unload on the stationary general. I also like to play early tech battles with basic yari and samurai units and I never notice the AI modifying their advancing stack formations based on what's hidden in that forest patch in the middle.
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:So I'm looking at downloading Stainless Steel for Medieval II, but does anyone know of a way to simplify this great mess of files the mod makers want you to download? The only complete package they offer requires you to buy a premium account on the one site. Is the best bet to just wait for whenever they release 7.0 and play vanilla until then? You might want to get version 6.1 also. I tried 6.3 or 4 or whatever it's up to now, and it crashed all the drat time I couldn't make it past turn 20. With 6.1 I've made to turn 260 something without a single crash.
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concerned mom posted:7-9/10 looks good to me? Where did you see a 9/10?
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Guess I'll post this here too: a list of reviews on the official forums. Mostly 8.5-9/10, with a few lower ones.
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Not to be a downer, but don't forget that if there's anything horribly broken with the game it won't be caught in a review. See: Empire and it taking a few days for people to notice things like the AI being unable to move armies by sea. e: quote from a review: quote:It was only after spending 30+ hours in the campaign map embroiled in the conflicts of the classical world that it suddenly dawned on me: Rome II is boring for hours at a time. It doesn’t matter if you have the money and infrastructure to maintain ten armies, because if your Imperium (the fame of your empire) isn’t high enough, then you are limited by three, initially. It’s a completely artificial hurdle. First off,  at everyone trying to claim that CA were going in a different direction. But significant down-time between wars with nothing to do is a bit of a problem if it's anything more than this person's play-style. It's possible he just docked it points for not being Civilisation.It does seem that 'slow pace' is a recurring complaint. And sieges are still bad. It seems everyone's conclusion is 'Yeah, it's still Total War and it's still really good. Hasn't moved the series forwards in any substantial way though'. Alchenar fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Sep 2, 2013 |
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I started playing The Great War yesterday. Was there any chat about this? It's an impressive mod, technically, but really is awful gameplay wise. They can't make units shoot on the move (so SMG units and tanks are weird) and the campaign just seems to drag on and on. Still, the individual battles are actually a ton of fun, and it's gratifying to watch MGs function versus a charge. Also, holy hell, WW1 was brutal.
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SquadronROE posted:I started playing The Great War yesterday. Was there any chat about this? It's an impressive mod, technically, but really is awful gameplay wise. They can't make units shoot on the move (so SMG units and tanks are weird) and the campaign just seems to drag on and on. It just doesn't bear any resemblence to ww1 at all. I've played it and felt bored out of my mind.
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Panzeh posted:It just doesn't bear any resemblence to ww1 at all. I've played it and felt bored out of my mind. The problem is that I have nothing to compare it against. I've never played a RTS that is set in WW1, so this is really all I've got. I have a strong feeling that it's completely inappropriate though. Massed squares of units who have to stop to shoot, trench works that aren't really dug in, no gas attacks modeled.. Sieges are hilarious with the improved artillery though. Is there anything better out there?
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OxMan posted:Is your game modded at all? What difficulty are you playing on? I'm curious what gave you the suspicion because I've always found kisho ninja to be hilarious against AI units since every battle consists of the standard tactics + 2 units of kisho ninja which can basically walk right behind/alongside an enemy army through a forest like anime ninja and wait until the proper time to double click and unload on the stationary general. I also like to play early tech battles with basic yari and samurai units and I never notice the AI modifying their advancing stack formations based on what's hidden in that forest patch in the middle. I've tested it a couple of times on the same campaign battle. The AI had a lot of extra generals it used as cheap katana cavalry. Put some bows and 3 yari ronin in the trees so they could flank the main army but the AI always went right for them even though they were hidden, not firing and I hadn't moved them at all. Maybe it just really really liked to flank on the right... through a forest. v vMy game is slightly modded, but mostly cosmetic stuff. Nothing that might affect battles themselves. I know the AI gets funky with hidden units sometimes since I've seen videos of it stopping a charge the moment their targets turned invisible again. Weird.
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SquadronROE posted:The problem is that I have nothing to compare it against. I've never played a RTS that is set in WW1, so this is really all I've got. I have a strong feeling that it's completely inappropriate though. Massed squares of units who have to stop to shoot, trench works that aren't really dug in, no gas attacks modeled.. Sieges are hilarious with the improved artillery though. There is a much better Company Of Heroes WW1 Mod. I think Men Of War has one as well. It sounds more like a general pop culture view of WW1 struggling with the NW engine.
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Yo! I botched my Bow-guys campaign by converting to christianity. Should my Katana-guys run convert to christianity? Worth it? I have 3 provinces that are Buddhist, but I just captured 2 that's 100% christian. So hard to decide! Can I just get a monk to stop the province where I have my nanban port from converting?
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Sistergodiva posted:Yo! I botched my Bow-guys campaign by converting to christianity. A temple in an adjacent province plus a monk will keep those filthy Catholics at bay but Christianity is really really good for clans that start on Kyushu because you get nanban trade ships that wreck poo poo and make you practically unassailable on your little island paradise.
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Rome 2 has revived mass goon total war multiplayer interest. Get invited or re invited to the group here!
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Wow, you guys weren't kidding. The Company of Heroes WW1 mod is far better. Gas is modeled well, the confusion is better modeled, tanks are better.. Now I just need that level of detail in a Total War sized game.
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Total war is just completly unsuited to combat post 1870ish. Armies are discrete units and battles are won or lost, so there is no way to have a frontline stalemate. HOI is just so much better suited to it.
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If it ever got to a stage where we had 19th-20th century Total War I think we could pull it off up until 1900. Then things would have to go a little alt history.
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Rudi Starnberg posted:Total war is just completly unsuited to combat post 1870ish. Armies are discrete units and battles are won or lost, so there is no way to have a frontline stalemate. HOI is just so much better suited to it. EDIT: Nevermind, HOI = Hearts of Iron. I agree, although I'd prefer to see combat less abstracted and more tactical, with ordering units forward and choosing when to push tanks in or bombard with artillery or use airplanes as spotters/close air support. It'd be completely inaccurate though. Mostly I like the idea of a strong graphical representation of large numbers of units, which Total War does really well. I think the idea of a tactical-level WW1 game could be interesting, with the sort of campaign layer that Total War has (very simplified logistics, for instance). Granted, doing it realistically (with miles-long trenches and so many layered defenses) would make for a tactically boring game and simply stagnated gameplay, I think that if it's done right it could be an interesting and fun game. Like: "I wonder if I could sneak light cavalry around a trench's flank to take out some MG nests while my conscripts take massive casualties in a suicidal charge." turn it up TURN ME ON fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Sep 2, 2013 |
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So apparently Shogun 2 has been patched so much since release that when I tried to reinstall using my limited edition discs, it only installs 143 Mb. Restoring my steam backup from last year is marginally better as it installs about 1.4 gigs, skipping over about 20 of my backup discs. Is this actually how it's supposed to be? My steam backup folder is 19 gigs too...
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SquadronROE posted:HOI? I'm not sure what that acronym means, but I think you're right. A lot of the Total War engine would have to be redone, a whole lot. Hearts of Iron, paradox's grand strategy in WW2 games, and with decent WW1 mods. Not directly comparable to TW in many ways, but that only goes to show how much would have to be changed by TW for it to be remotely suitable base for post machinegun combat. E:^^Shogun has had a hell of a lot of large patches, yes.
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Rudi Starnberg posted:Hearts of Iron, paradox's grand strategy in WW2 games, and with decent WW1 mods. Not directly comparable to TW in many ways, but that only goes to show how much would have to be changed by TW for it to be remotely suitable base for post machinegun combat. Yeah, you're describing a completely different experience than what I want, really. I wouldn't say Total War and HOI even target the same gamers. I can play Total War for hours, but get lost and start crying when I try to play HOI.
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So I've played for a little bit, I'm enjoying it so far but it's too early to say really. One thing I can say however is I'm really not loving the interface, maybe I'm just not used to it yet but everything seems so hard to read at a glance. And things like not immediately being able to see the number of men in a unit is really annoying.
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Shorter Than Some posted:So I've played for a little bit, I'm enjoying it so far but it's too early to say really. One thing I can say however is I'm really not loving the interface, maybe I'm just not used to it yet but everything seems so hard to read at a glance. And things like not immediately being able to see the number of men in a unit is really annoying. Shogun 2? Empire? which one? I think there is a mod that can increase the text size or something.
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Sounds like Rome 2. The number of soldiers in a unit is represented by a bar now. To see the exact number you need to select a unit individually.
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Mod question time: While I'm waiting for Rome 2 to become unfucked by patches, I've been playing the first Rome. I am currently debating between playing Roma Surrectum or Rome Total Realism. gently caress Europa Barbarorum, I'd rather have intuitive gameplay than a history lesson. Roma Surrectum I've always admired because of the excellent visual overhaul and the legion variation, but I've never been a fan of hour long battles. Rome Total Realism I'd played in the past, and I quite liked it then, but I've heard that the current release isn't that good. Can anyone shed some light on Version 7 the Iberian campaign?
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Arcsquad12 posted:Mod question time: While I'm waiting for Rome 2 to become unfucked by patches, I've been playing the first Rome. I am currently debating between playing Roma Surrectum or Rome Total Realism. gently caress Europa Barbarorum, I'd rather have intuitive gameplay than a history lesson. EB is very intuitive. Though if you must, I find Roma Surrectum to be better than RTR, so I would go with that.
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I am looking for a mod for Medieval 2, but i really don't have any idea of what to pick. I haven't touched Medieval 2 in a long time and the last thing i recall was the AI being dumb as hell for sieges, and most of the mods being extremely spergy. I was looking at the Warhammer mod, anyone have any experience with it?
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UberJumper posted:I am looking for a mod for Medieval 2, but i really don't have any idea of what to pick. I haven't touched Medieval 2 in a long time and the last thing i recall was the AI being dumb as hell for sieges, and most of the mods being extremely spergy. I've looked at it before, but never tried it. When I was reading up on it, it seems like a lot of the game is somewhat scripted in the sense that the computer will come at you with a hell of a lot of doomstacks. Do you know much about WH fantasy? The Chaos guys I think are basically all stuck allied together and at some point will launch a "crusade" or whatever on the empire factions and it's probably quite crazy. The best points about the mod that I was reading about were the unit models and just sort of throwing fights together. Most units are probably ridiculously powerful and the balance is most likely so-so, but hey it's WH fantasy who cares. The map is probably pretty cool too.
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UberJumper posted:I am looking for a mod for Medieval 2, but i really don't have any idea of what to pick. I haven't touched Medieval 2 in a long time and the last thing i recall was the AI being dumb as hell for sieges, and most of the mods being extremely spergy. I was playing the Lord of the Rings mod recently (the Third Age Total War) and I was having a bunch of fun with it. All the custom units and settlements look really, really nice, and I don't recall anything being horribly broken. It can be really difficult, though, especially if you go VH/VH like they suggest. For the love of god don't play as Gondor on VH/VH.
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UberJumper posted:I was looking at the Warhammer mod, anyone have any experience with it? It's pretty good dumb fun. If you like the setting and are a fan of huge battles, it will scratch that itch. It's not exceptionally well-balanced, and the text is a bit off since the modders are all Russian, but it's certainly a blast to see hordes of winged hussars and greenskins clashing with huge monsters and spellcasters wreaking havoc across the battlefield.
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SHISHKABOB posted:Do you know much about WH fantasy? I don't play the game anymore (moved to 40k) but still read the fluff. Generation Internet posted:I was playing the Lord of the Rings mod recently (the Third Age Total War) and I was having a bunch of fun with it. All the custom units and settlements look really, really nice, and I don't recall anything being horribly broken. It can be really difficult, though, especially if you go VH/VH like they suggest. For the love of god don't play as Gondor on VH/VH. I looked at that and i really know nothing about Lord of the Rings. If Warhammer doesn't work out i will give it a shot. Hargrimm posted:It's pretty good dumb fun. If you like the setting and are a fan of huge battles, it will scratch that itch. It's not exceptionally well-balanced, and the text is a bit off since the modders are all Russian, but it's certainly a blast to see hordes of winged hussars and greenskins clashing with huge monsters and spellcasters wreaking havoc across the battlefield. This sold me, i will download it this weekend.
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PlanetWar is the best mod for Medieval 2, bar none.
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Theres a pretty bitchin vikings mod called The Last Kingdom. Has some pretty awesome potential for  infantry battles.
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AShamefulDisplay posted:Theres a pretty bitchin vikings mod called The Last Kingdom. Has some pretty awesome potential for Oh wow, this looks pretty good. Anyone try it out? Worth the fight of installing a mod?
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Last Kingdom is fun as hell and you get to unite Scandinavia under one king to conquer Britain. The only annoying thing is there are no cavalry generals so battles are not a decisive until you get cavalry.
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