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i think the only thing more shameful than reading the wheel of time series is reading the wizard's first rule series
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:is that the one where the plot came to a screaming halt and the book spent like 400,000 words on four days of people doing nothing this plus braid-tugging
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Sep 10, 2013 19:05
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What did Pohl write that is well recommended?
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Sep 10, 2013 19:06
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MindSet posted:What did Pohl write that is well recommended?
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Sep 10, 2013 19:19
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:400,000 words on four days of people doing nothing
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Sep 10, 2013 19:33
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ol qwerty bastard posted:well why doesn't HJPEV transfigure some antimatter already
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Sep 10, 2013 19:36
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Sham bam bamina! posted:gateway, which i've been meaning to read for a while gateway is the best thing he wrote and the next 2 heechee books are okay
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Sep 10, 2013 19:37
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:is that the one where the plot came to a screaming halt and the book spent like 400,000 words on four days of people doing nothing Pretty sure that was book 8 yeah. I'm not sure which one I stopped on, it was a long time ago. Really it was only somewhat interesting up til book 4 or so, after which it slowed down big time, and then it was 8 or 9 that it slammed into a wall. I think I might have got through book 9 before quitting, and that's when I was the worst most pimpliest horrible fantasy nerd, and a teenager. If someone tells you they read the whole series, walk away.
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Sep 10, 2013 19:43
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MANIFEST DESTINY posted:Pretty sure that was book 8 yeah. I'm not sure which one I stopped on, it was a long time ago. Really it was only somewhat interesting up til book 4 or so, after which it slowed down big time, and then it was 8 or 9 that it slammed into a wall. I think I might have got through book 9 before quitting, and that's when I was the worst most pimpliest horrible fantasy nerd, and a teenager. If someone tells you they read the whole series, walk away. yeah there's one book where the entire 800 pages or so takes place within the same timespan as one chapter of the previous one and that's where I gave up on it
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Sep 10, 2013 19:45
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cultureulterior posted:why doesn't HJPEV transfigure some antimatter already i want to see if he can transfigure a black hole or at least a supercritical sphere of plutonium or something
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Sep 10, 2013 19:46
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angry_keebler posted:gateway is the best thing he wrote and the next 2 heechee books are okay space merchants is recommended too (including by kingsley amis), the only one of his books i've read is man plus which is good. look at his science fiction encyclopaedia entry
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Sep 10, 2013 21:06
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furthermore: http://punkadiddle.blogspot.co.uk/2010/03/robert-jordan-wheel-of-time-1-eye-of.htmlquote:So, I read the first volume, and I’m heartened. It turns out that The Wheel of Time is not long at all. It may look long to the inexperienced eye, but it’s actually fairly short. The whole series will be a doddle. they get pretty abusive round about number 8 or 9 iirc
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Sep 10, 2013 21:13
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Speaking of Bad Bookes; holy piss is Extinction Point in the category... Picked it up for a quid on the amazon daily kindle deal after reading the post-apocalyptic synopsis and seeing the decent star rating. lol on me and my £1. Within the first 10 pages I was thinking 'drat, this really seems like it was written by a 12-year old', the sentence structure and language is so simple; never mind, perhaps it's a stylistic thing? Ha. The heroine, a spunky young smalltown journalist working in the big apple is the last person alive after the aforementioned book title, but is contacted by a group of arctic research survivors (sp. just in case you are a masochist) who tell her to get her arse to meet them; 'Oh, I can't drive; I will bicycle from New York to north of Canada' FFFFFFff what. Considering every car is now free and there is no-one else on the roads, perhaps you could give it a try, surely in your adult life you've seen someone drive before, been a passenger? Surely as a smalltown gal you were desperate to get your license and a beater car to do stuff with friends?? You'll need lots of supplies on your trip north, shelter etc? And the research team are all 'Oh ok then see you'. Ipad Kindle app, so I couldn't hurl it across the room, and press/hold->delete doesn't feel nearly as good  Looking at the Amazon reviews, almost all the 5-pointers are one-line poo poo and all the 1-stars are, well, people like me.
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Sep 10, 2013 21:33
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House Louse posted:furthermore: http://punkadiddle.blogspot.co.uk/2010/03/robert-jordan-wheel-of-time-1-eye-of.html I'm firmly convinced Jordan got paid by the letter.
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Sep 10, 2013 21:34
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ol qwerty bastard posted:i also got "the name of the wind" because someone recommended it to me. usually i'm not all that into fantasy but this seems closer to "what if magic is science" sort of stuff maybe? i dunno. if i don't like it, meh, i wasted six dollars. if you like that read "ventus" by karl schroeder, it's real good and free from his web site
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Sep 10, 2013 21:35
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:go get anathem instead yeah i like anathem. enjoyed it more the second time than the first
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Sep 10, 2013 22:36
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House Louse posted:furthermore: http://punkadiddle.blogspot.co.uk/2010/03/robert-jordan-wheel-of-time-1-eye-of.html
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Sep 10, 2013 23:34
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Stymie posted:i think the only thing more shameful than reading the wheel of time series is reading the wizard's first rule series where do gor books rank on this spectrume of shame?
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Sep 10, 2013 23:43
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Sham bam bamina! posted:no you see it's important to know just how he stumbled and what kept him from falling completely, anything less will shatter the immersion Brb, smoothing my skirt
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Sep 10, 2013 23:50
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golgo13sf posted:Brb, smoothing my skirt Don't forget to tug your braid.
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Sep 10, 2013 23:58
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MANIFEST DESTINY posted:Don't forget to tug your braid. 14 pages later....
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Sep 10, 2013 23:59
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Most people started wheel of time as a teenager, when reading long books made you look cool and smart. The fact that it was a long winded shelf bender was a selling point
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Sep 11, 2013 00:42
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stoutfish posted:where do gor books rank on this spectrume of shame? at least the gor books are honest about the author's desire to treat women like objects, unlike goodkind
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Sep 11, 2013 00:45
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terry goodkind was basically the perfect objectivist fantasy author because he basically rewrote the fountainhead and all his books had creepy woman-hating sex scenes stuffed into them at every opportunity
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Sep 11, 2013 00:48
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Stymie posted:terry goodkind was basically the perfect objectivist fantasy author because he basically rewrote the fountainhead and all his books had creepy woman-hating sex scenes stuffed into them at every opportunity 
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Sep 11, 2013 00:57
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i actually have pretty fond memories of david edding's belgariad, probably because it was the first fantasy series i read through. it wasn't anywhere near as verbose as jordan and grrm edit: don't take this as a recommendation. it's probably awful from an adult perspective Amethyst fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Sep 11, 2013 |
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Sep 11, 2013 01:18
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the first fantasy i read after lotr was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alanna:_The_First_Adventure which featured a girl and had her go through puberty and have sex and all kinds of stuff. no idea how i edned up reading that as an 9 or 10 year old boy but i'm kind of grateful now, learned a lot and i'm not a misogynist
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Sep 11, 2013 01:21
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the only fantasy series i would actually recommend as good is Ursula Le Guin's earthsea quartet people like gene wolfe and like to have long threads on how Literature book of the new sun is but it's actually pretty childish and stupid IMO
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Sep 11, 2013 01:27
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House Louse posted:furthermore: http://punkadiddle.blogspot.co.uk/2010/03/robert-jordan-wheel-of-time-1-eye-of.html some of the comments on these reviews are so typical quote:I think its easy to argue that theres no depth to these characters this early in the book because there hasnt been the time to create the depth. after 1600 pages. fantasy fans.
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Sep 11, 2013 01:34
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This adam roberts guy seems cool, has anyone read his novels?
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Sep 11, 2013 01:43
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Amethyst posted:some of the comments on these reviews are so typical fantasy fans will argue that a character has no depth until they are raped in graphic detail
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Sep 11, 2013 01:49
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Trig Discipline posted:yeah i like anathem. enjoyed it more the second time than the first yeah a chilling warning of the dangers of collectivism
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Sep 11, 2013 02:15
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i started reading wheel of time when i was younger and just wanted to see how it ended so i read the whole thing. since then ive read better books so i realize that he wasnt some master craftsman but it was still entertaining also seconding ventus, was good book
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Sep 11, 2013 02:27
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stoutfish posted:where do gor books rank on this spectrume of shame? ultraviolet on the shame spectrum
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Sep 11, 2013 03:08
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yesterday i saw a car on the freeway that had a bumper sticker which simply read "GOREAN" i was a little concerned driving near to that person so i switched lanes
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Sep 11, 2013 03:14
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duTrieux. posted:yesterday i saw a car on the freeway that had a bumper sticker which simply read "GOREAN" prude
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Sep 11, 2013 04:20
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i have also shifted lanes to get away from cars with the following stickers:
these people are dangerous and possibly unhinged, and may snap at any moment
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Sep 11, 2013 04:27
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i just try to get away from any other cars on the road because all other drivers are terrible
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Sep 11, 2013 04:30
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I had a glock sticker on my car next to my EMT star just to make sure people knew I wasn't fuqqin around. I like to think its the reason my car never got broken into.
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Grandmaster.flv posted:I had a glock sticker on my car next to my EMT star just to make sure people knew I wasn't fuqqin around. i dunno that says to me "im probably the kind of idiot that just leaves guns in my car"
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