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JerryLee posted:Well, I mean, the portmanteau is obvious, which is why it always confuses me that many people don't pronounce it the way they (hopefully) pronounce 'laser.' Or do they actually say 'lazzer'? We pronounce it the way it looks now, not the way it looked when it was a separate word. E: Whoops, beaten
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AbusePuppy posted:The thing about Crusader is not that it necessarily drastically ups your average range- although in that sense it's better than Fleet, since you don't ever have to worry about "what if I reroll that 3 into a 1", but that it makes it much more likely that you will move a significant distance. Very rarely will you get stuck with a 1" run when using Crusader, and 75% of the time you'll go 4" or more. The problem with the bit blobs isn't so much getting them across, though that is a problem, it's what do they do once they're there. They don't seem to hit that hard and will be hard to manage and easy to shoot. I was toying with an idea of a few 5 man heavy/special squads and a few blobs, then building from there. It seems promising, but not super competitive.
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I want to go to some GTs with my customers at my store, what is right now the no nonsense chaos space marine list with three helldrakes, is there one? Can they have a competitive build for big tournaments> I just to build three of those bad boys and want a good army at the same time. I was thinking 12 autocannon havocs, plus some cultists, plus flying daemon prince and daemon allies. Whats the story?
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JerryLee posted:Well, I mean, the portmanteau is obvious, which is why it always confuses me that many people don't pronounce it the way they (hopefully) pronounce 'laser.' Or do they actually say 'lazzer'? GW, who should probably be considered the canonical sourse, pronounce it "lazgun". That's because they speak English and write in English. And the English pronunciation of that word is "lazgun". Seriously, there are some esoteric names in Hamland that I can understand people being confused about, but a lot are just "turrent" levels of daft. Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Sep 11, 2013 |
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Sep 11, 2013 06:28
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 I've only been putting models together for a week or so, for the first time in years. My first conversion in 12 years is adding a sword to a Chimera's turret commander. Because why the hell not. This little thing makes me so happy.
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Sep 11, 2013 06:37
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Push me (turret) closer! I want to hit them with my sword!
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Squifferific posted:
 Little conversions that bring more character in are always cool. I think these guys are the first conversion work I've ever done (weapon swapping). Pulled all the usable weapons from my box of Sanguinary Guard that I thought I would never paint. Power weapons taller than the actual models? Not a problem for Death Company! Also DOUBLE FIST! I need to get on my double Thunder Hammer model soon.
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Sep 11, 2013 06:54
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Double powerfist is so god drat sexy. Good work.
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rjderouin posted:I want to go to some GTs with my customers at my store, what is right now the no nonsense chaos space marine list with three helldrakes, is there one? Can they have a competitive build for big tournaments> I just to build three of those bad boys and want a good army at the same time. I was thinking 12 autocannon havocs, plus some cultists, plus flying daemon prince and daemon allies. Whats the story? How many points? To be honest with you, three drakes is overkill. Two is very solid but drakes struggle with 2+ armour and AV12-14 stuff. You're better off using your third fast slot for some bikes or spawn. Same deal with autocannon havocs, they're great but spamming them is a bad move because they aren't going to do you any good against 2+ armour or tough AV. The trick to a good tournament list is to have a strong strategy but to also include units that can deal with what your oponents will throw at you. If you take three drakes and 12 autocannons you'll stomp someone who brings a mechanised marine force full of rhinos and predators but you'll get your arse handed to you by necrons Tau or grey knights.
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Smegmalicious posted:Taugust? Day-mons or die-mons is technically correct I think. It's a Greek loan word and in its original context iirc means like 'little gods' so guys like Heracles, and a classics professor would use the proper pronunciation. GW and popular English in general clearly just think of it as a cool spelling for demon though. e: ah here we go, so the Greek is 'daimon' and then that gets translated as 'daemon' and pronounced like 'demon' http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/daimon Living Image fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Sep 11, 2013 |
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Oh my glob, I saw a 130 post update and expected rumors or an argument about some codex getting the shaft. Instead we're discussing pronunciation. I'm glad someone brought up Waaagh = War at least. But people mispronouncing chaos or demon? Tau? WTF?
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Sep 11, 2013 08:26
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I know a guy who pronounces 'wych' as 'wiishz'. Truly a universe of infinite possibility.
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Sep 11, 2013 08:35
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There are people in life that pronounce Tau as Tay-you
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Bavius posted:Oh my glob, I saw a 130 post update and expected rumors or an argument about some codex getting the shaft. Instead we're discussing pronunciation. I dont think i've seen any new rumors, at least from the usual places since Mango said he made up the crawling plague. Seriously, how do you mis pronouce Chaos? Hencoe fucked around with this message at 09:34 on Sep 11, 2013 |
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Sep 11, 2013 09:29
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There are some people that say Spess Mehreens. They are (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeCfod1XT7E)
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New from FW, the XV107 R'Varna Battlesuit.  It's so... overdesigned. Sort of like it.
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I must have it. It looks like a flightless/jsj-less up-armored version of the Riptide. I think those might be some kind of heavy ion accelerator or whatever. Cool. Bavius fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Sep 11, 2013 |
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Sep 11, 2013 11:32
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It looks like someone watched too much Bay Transformers.
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Smegmalicious posted:The problem with the bit blobs isn't so much getting them across, though that is a problem, it's what do they do once they're there. They don't seem to hit that hard and will be hard to manage and easy to shoot. The LasPlas Crusaders with two extra ablative guys isn't terrible and it's a scoring heavy weapons unit; if it has to go on the move, the Plasma at least keeps it functionality. A Drop Pod or transport could also help it a bunch to make sure it gets where it needs to go and offer some extra protection. Hrm, maybe even just 5man LasPlas in a Rhino would be fine... BT aren't gonna be top-tier competitive, but I feel like you can make them into something you wouldn't need to feel ashamed of running. It's all a matter of playing to your advantages- because they do have advantages- and using the tools you have. Mango Polo posted:*gundams*
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Shockeh posted:It looks like someone watched too much Bay Transformers. I think Michael Bay would fit right in in the school of "everything is over the top as hellllllllllllllllll" *guitar riff and shower of sparks* 40k universe, though. So, it sorta works.
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What happened to the Tau's "we don't need giant mechs because that is illogical, captain" thing? Went out the window in the face of potential profit, I assume? If you absolutely must have a big loving Gundam robot covered in guns, then just buy a fuckin' Gundam that's covered in guns. I bet it's at least three times cheaper than that thing. Just slap some Tau bits on it, replace the head with an inappropriately small head, and blammo, perfect Riptide variant! 
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Bavius posted:I must have it. "A development of the Riptide, the R’Varna sacrifices mobility for heavier armour and increased firepower in the form of two pulse submunition cannon." The regular Riptide already has a 2+ save, so I guess this means more wounds or a better Inv save.
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serious gaylord posted:There are people in life that pronounce Tau as Tay-you Find these people and throw old metal Tomb Spyders at them, they deserve it. Oh, and a new Riptide with extra anime. That's cool I guess.
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Mango Polo posted:"A development of the Riptide, the R’Varna sacrifices mobility for heavier armour and increased firepower in the form of two pulse submunition cannon." The only thing that matters is what the gently caress the stats are for "pulse submunition cannons," and I'm going to wager "not good," since it has the word "pulse" in it and not "ion." We'll see, I guess. Could be pleasantly surprised. Model-wise, that thing is a busy pile of poo poo that does not fit into the Tau aesthetic.
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Smegmalicious posted:The problem with the bit blobs isn't so much getting them across, though that is a problem, it's what do they do once they're there. They don't seem to hit that hard and will be hard to manage and easy to shoot. I'm pretty happy with the new Templars overall, we get access to all the cool stuff, but the loss of easy access to hatred/rage really hurt. Our crusader squads are cool, but like you say they're really just basic marines in combat with the extra attack for bp/ccw. I think maybe using some of the new stuff we get, like min size razorback squads, thunderfire cannon, troop biker squads, ironclads, etc, then use the marine blobs just to mop up the rest after they get across the board. That's what I'll be trying tonight at least.
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Double fisting rules.
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Is it a bad idea to replace the helmets and torsoes in a chaos marine squad with the Iron Warriors' ones if I am going to paint them Black Legion? It would appear nobody else on the internet has thought of this, and the IW helmets and torso are much less over-the-top.
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Fearless posted:Double fisting rules. YOU got the TOUCH You got the POWER
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Groetgaffel posted:Out of all the mispronunciations posted so far, this one right here is the most painful one for me. I was working for Workshop when the Tau first came out, and it was painful how common it was with kids at the time. These would be the same kids who had one full Tactical Squad, one Bike, 5 Terminators and Marneus Calgar. No matter what, this was ALWAYS what they had.
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Since the syllable 'tau' is, in context, a word from an alien language that bears no direct relationship to the visually identical English word, it wouldn't really annoy me if someone pronounced it differently than I did. I'm sure there's an official GW pronunciation, but it's not like the average fan gets all their pronunciation from a common source, as opposed to a primarily audio or audiovisual piece of media like Star Wars or whatever. Tay-you is a pretty weird one though.
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I was just curious how other people say it. Tay-you is an odd one, but still better than 'tah' (in my opinion).
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In Manchester at least, I've always heard it pronounced as if it rhymed with 'cow'
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Captain Invictus posted:What happened to the Tau's "we don't need giant mechs because that is illogical, captain" thing? Went out the window in the face of potential profit, I assume? The guy who won my bracket at Nova did that, and it looked loving awful.
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Those are sure some weird ways to say flashlight.
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Speaking of pronouncing things in 40K I stumbled across this gem last night and while I appreciate his intent and even like some of the content, hearing him do an Ork's cockney accent through a distortion effect with his own accent peeking through is magical. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf1wEkgyL8g Sadly there are no images, so try Tau if you find the Ork video boring to "watch" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHOziwbKlGM Warhammer 40,000: Fluff for the uninitiated. There are 16 of these so far.
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Captain Invictus posted:What happened to the Tau's "we don't need giant mechs because that is illogical, captain" thing? Went out the window in the face of potential profit, I assume? It went out the window in the face of potential awesome. Seriously, that was the dumbest bit of fluff. Why the hell would the anime mecha themed faction not have some big gently caress-off anime mecha? I get that giant robots are completely silly and illogical, but this is 40K, and the blue space goats don't need to know that.
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I don't know if this is the right spot, but does anyone have a Steel Legion lieutenant who's pointing (pictured below) that I can buy? I will pay actual dollars for it.
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Captain Invictus posted:What happened to the Tau's "we don't need giant mechs because that is illogical, captain" thing? Went out the window in the face of potential profit, I assume? That's what was said about titans. Hence the reason why all of their titan-equivalents are planes. Doesn't contradict having a mid-size suit.
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I remember a rumour a couple months back said forgeworld would be doing a riptide variant, and some sort of super stealth suit. Hopefully we see the super stealth suit soon!
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