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I asked a salesperson about the lack of customization, and was told that since it's a brand-new model, they're still in the process of getting things up and will have more customization options soon. I think it might be the same with the HP Zbook 15 -- it doesn't even let you pick a QHD screen right now for whatever reason.
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crazyfish posted:My main requirements are: This is from a couple of pages back, but the Latitude 7440 is fully up on Dell's premier site now. It is NOT cheap. Currently, the 1080p touchscreen is a nearly $300 option, but there's a 1080p matte option for $90. Highlights: The Ubuntu version is discounted by $70 from the Windows Pro version. The i7-4600U is an option now, which I think is the highest clocked 17W CPU available right now. There's also the i5-4300U as an option. TrackPoint with physical buttons:
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 16:13 |
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Wasn't the Latitude 3440 supposed to be released today as well?
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 18:03 |
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Meltycat posted:Dell m4800 (15") was released: I don't know why you're so insistent on Haswell, I don't think the gains are that great for actually using it, just when it's idle. Honestly your chances of getting something with Haswell are slim if you need it by the end of this month. I don't actually use my MBP at 2880x1800, but you could if you really wanted all the space. Isn't OSX basically a Linux (or unix?). Sounds like you want a W530. It has a normal trackpoint, real buttons, 1080p and 16gb option, and costs less than 2k.
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 18:26 |
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Magic Underwear posted:I don't know why you're so insistent on Haswell, I don't think the gains are that great for actually using it, just when it's idle. Honestly your chances of getting something with Haswell are slim if you need it by the end of this month. I don't actually use my MBP at 2880x1800, but you could if you really wanted all the space. Isn't OSX basically a Linux (or unix?). I think you're mixing me up with somebody else... I don't need a machine by the end of this month The sooner the better, but I could probably wait until next spring/summer if I really needed. I really want a QHD+ display (>1080P) in a user-serviceable chassis, and most of those machines are planned Haswell releases. If I settled for 1080P, then yeah, I'd probably pick up a W530 (thanks for the recommendation!). I figure the QHD should be nice for where I need it (visualization + viewing detailed figures, and a huge amount of reading text which looks much nicer on Retina-style displays), so I'm being somewhat stubborn about it. Regarding the Retina Macs, OSX is BSD-based, but we work with and deploy Linux-based software where there are enough incompatibilities that I'd like to just run Linux natively. Even if the compatibility wasn't an issue, I still don't really like the OSX interface. If they come out with really nice hardware for this gen which is substantially nicer than the Dells/HPs/etc, I'll give them a look though. Over the summer one of my machines broke and getting an Ubuntu install on an (oldish) loaner Macbook was a pain and I've heard the newer ones are worse, but I'll ask in the Mac thread about it if it comes to that. Meltycat fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Sep 12, 2013 |
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The X-man cometh posted:Wasn't the Latitude 3440 supposed to be released today as well? It's on my premier page as "Latitude 14 3000 Series." The build your own page has some kinks in it right now, like the touchscreen LCD option throws an error as being incompatible with "shipment box" The available options aren't that great right now: Intel Core i3-4010U (Dual Core, 1.70GHz, 3M cache, 15W) [subtract $54.40] Intel Core i5-4200U (Dual Core, 1.60GHz, 3M cache, 15W) [Included in Price] 2GB (1x2GB) 1600MHz DDR3L Memory [subtract $91.80] 4GB (1x4GB) 1600MHz DDR3L Memory [subtract $64.60] 6GB (1 x 2GB + 1 x 4GB) 1600Mhz DDR3L Memory [subtract $34.00] 8GB (2x4GB) 1600MHz DDR3L Memory [Included in Price] 14.0 in. HDF WLED LGD LCD [subtract $34.00] 14.0 in. HDF+ WLED AUO LCD [Included in Price] 14.0 in. HD WLED AUO LCD with TOUCH capability [add $101.32] UMA [Included in Price] Nvidia N14P-GV2 2GB DDR3 [add $53.72] (I think that this is the Quadro K1000M http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Quadro-K1000M.76894.0.html)
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 19:11 |
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Magic Underwear posted:Isn't OSX basically a Linux (or unix?). This gets asked a lot, but the answer is no. They have a lot of similarities, but it's not actually A Linux (although it is based on one) and there are some incompatibility issues
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 19:24 |
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I think there are two of us with roughly similar requirements, but I'm the one that wants it by the end of the month. Feels like I'm about a month too early for not only Haswell, but higher than 1080p screens. The m4800 with qhd starts shipping October 1. On a related note, check out the price deltas between the us and Canadian Dell sites. Base m4800 starts at 2026 and the cheapest qhd for 3106.
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 19:29 |
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Meltycat posted:Dell m4800 (15") was released: Intel Core i5-4200M (Dual Core 2.50GHz, x.xGHz Turbo, 3MB 37W, w/HD Graphics 4600) [Included in Price] Intel Core i7-4600M (Dual Core 2.90GHz, x.xGHz Turbo, 4MB 37W, w/HD Graphics 4600) [add $102.00] Intel Core i7-4700MQ (Quad Core 2.40GHz, x.xGHz Turbo, 6MB 47W, w/HD Graphics 4600) [add $81.60] Intel Core i7-4800MQ (Quad Core 2.70GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo, 6MB 47W, w/HD Graphics 4600) [add $197.20] Intel Core i7-4900MQ (Quad Core 2.80GHz, 3.8GHz Turbo, 8MB 47W, w/HD Graphics 4600) [add $333.20] Intel Core i7-4930MX (Quad Core Extreme 3.00GHz, 3.9GHz Turbo, 8MB 57W, w/HD Graphics 4600) [add $809.20]
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 19:37 |
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Edit: double post from phone
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 19:39 |
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Man, I am really torn between the Precision 4800, the Latitude E6540 and the HP Z 15. All look great and offer good processor and graphics options. I think the Latitude, according to notebookcheck, may not handle the CPU heat very well. But I don't know what "stress test" really means in this instance, maybe it's unrealistically running all four cores at 100% for two hours. Or maybe it really has a throttling problem which may become visible in practice. The M4800 is a bit pricier and a tad less mobile. unnnngh At least Lenovo doesn't offer a proper alternative anymore.
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 20:07 |
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What's the word on the t540? I haven't seen anything much about it and doubt my mom would care a lot about the trackpoint changes.
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 20:11 |
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Anandtech is good about reviewing HP and Dell workstation-class laptops, I'd like to see them have a shootout with those three.
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 20:14 |
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Boner Slam posted:I think the Latitude, according to notebookcheck, may not handle the CPU heat very well. But I don't know what "stress test" really means in this instance, maybe it's unrealistically running all four cores at 100% for two hours. Or maybe it really has a throttling problem which may become visible in practice. One man's unrealistic is another man's daily workload. Sounds like my use case.
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 20:26 |
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mastershakeman posted:What's the word on the t540? I haven't seen anything much about it and doubt my mom would care a lot about the trackpoint changes. T540p is shipping in November. haven't heard anything about a non-p.
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 20:28 |
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Naffer posted:This is from a couple of pages back, but the Latitude 7440 is fully up on Dell's premier site now. It is NOT cheap. Currently, the 1080p touchscreen is a nearly $300 option, but there's a 1080p matte option for $90. We just put in an order of 19 of these for my department. I can't wait to play with them.
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 20:34 |
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Naffer posted:It's on my premier page as "Latitude 14 3000 Series." The build your own page has some kinks in it right now, like the touchscreen LCD option throws an error as being incompatible with "shipment box" That's exactly what I'm looking for. do you know how long laptops stay on the premier site until they're available on the main site?
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 21:01 |
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The X-man cometh posted:That's exactly what I'm looking for. do you know how long laptops stay on the premier site until they're available on the main site? It's up here now: http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/latitude-3440-laptop/pd but there aren't really any customization options available yet. Maybe give it a couple of days?
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 21:12 |
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A few pages ago someone mentioned their Lenovo estimated ship date jumping around a lot. Mine just shot up to December 31st (what? On New Year's Eve, really?) for an order I placed on a week ago (which originally said would ship on september 23rd). Is this just normal shenanigans that will eventually settle down and come back to a logical ship date or should I be calling Lenovo to see what's up?
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# ? Sep 12, 2013 21:22 |
Does anyone know where to find the windows product key for lenovo's y410p? I ran into a pretty serious issue after migrating my data over to the SSD I ordered so I'm looking to download a new windows 8 install with my key. Except it doesn't appear to be on the body or in any of the provided documentation.
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 02:17 |
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hcenvirons posted:Does anyone know where to find the windows product key for lenovo's y410p? I ran into a pretty serious issue after migrating my data over to the SSD I ordered so I'm looking to download a new windows 8 install with my key. Except it doesn't appear to be on the body or in any of the provided documentation. It's embedded in the bios. Windows install should detect it. http://blogs.technet.com/b/keithcombs/archive/2012/11/16/windows-8-bios-keys-embedded-goodness.aspx You have to be sure to install the exact same edition that was on there before though.
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 02:35 |
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So guys I really need some help. I am maxing out my spending now at $1400. I'm looking between a macbook pro (without retina 13"), a macbook air and some form of PC. All I do is use word processors, browse the internet and use DAWs. 13" or 15" is fine. Battery life is semi important too. I just want to be able to browse the net, watch movies, (burn cd's although I might get over this with the air) and record music. (Don't recommend a heavy beast or a thinkpad cause they are too ugly). HELP ME PLEASE. EDIT: Realized Macbook air doesnt' have HDMI, that is required. (I don't totally need a cd burner.) EDIT2: A good webcam is a plus too. FINAL EDIT: How does this look for what I want? http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7686549&CatId=4938 Good Canadian Boy fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Sep 13, 2013 |
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Good Canadian Boy posted:So guys I really need some help. I am maxing out my spending now at $1400. I'm looking between a macbook pro (without retina 13"), a macbook air and some form of PC. Please don't buy a non-retina MBP. Thanks. The Air can use a mini-DP to HDMI adaptor and a USB superdrive. However, I think a lot of non-Apple ultrabooks would meet your needs too.
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 04:51 |
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Oh that's pretty decent then. I might just get a macbook air! A superdrive and a mini-DP to HDMI adaptor seem like a good choice, provided that a macbook air can run Logic express sufficiently.
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 05:01 |
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Good Canadian Boy posted:EDIT: Realized Macbook air doesnt' have HDMI, that is required. (I don't totally need a cd burner.) Buy a miniDP to HDMI adapter, $4 shipped in the OP Buy a USB Blu-Ray burner for $40 Get the Macbook Air, you'll like it.
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 05:10 |
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bull3964 posted:It's embedded in the bios. Windows install should detect it. Problem is there isn't any retail DVD that comes with it, no standalone windows install. I'm still not at all sure how to transfer the installation to the SSD to be entirely honest without a transfer tool.
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 07:40 |
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What's it like using a 1080p 14 inch screen? Is it comfortable to type on/read from for long periods of time or is the text just too small? Windows doesn't handle DPI scaling that well so I was wondering if that high a resolution on that size screen would be worth it
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 09:11 |
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The Iron Rose posted:Problem is there isn't any retail DVD that comes with it, no standalone windows install. I'm still not at all sure how to transfer the installation to the SSD to be entirely honest without a transfer tool. Download an ISO from anywhere and burn it. Or put that ISO on a USB stick (I think there's an MS tool to do this, or other ways). Your copy is legal, this is totally fine. I've never even heard of a transfer tool anyway, unless you mean something like Acronis that can just clone your partition over.
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 10:27 |
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Are there any 13-14" laptops/ultrabooks that have either two 2.5" drive bays or, more realistically, an msata port plus a 2.5" drive bay? Other requirements: at least 1920x1080, at least 8gb of ram (as an installed option). Ideally it would come with a 128-256gb SSD installed in the msata port. If there was an option to put a hard drive in the 2.5" bay in addition to the SSD, that might also be nice.
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 12:08 |
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How important would the 256GB upgrade over 128GB be for the Macbook Air? Also upgrading to 8GB over 4GB of ram?
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 13:01 |
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Good Canadian Boy posted:How important would the 256GB upgrade over 128GB be for the Macbook Air? Also upgrading to 8GB over 4GB of ram? If you're going to do something like run Windows 7/8 VM's or BootCamp, you're going to want the 256GB. The 8GB or RAM is nice too. But if you're just using it to type papers and surf the web you can get by with the 4/128
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TomWaitsForNoMan posted:What's it like using a 1080p 14 inch screen? Is it comfortable to type on/read from for long periods of time or is the text just too small? Windows doesn't handle DPI scaling that well so I was wondering if that high a resolution on that size screen would be worth it I figured it would actually be easier to go to a shop and look at the laptops on display and see for myself, so I spent some time today doing just that. Long story short, just in case anyone else is wondering, it's pretty much fine. Sometimes text when typing or browsing can be a bit too small, but zoom functions on either the web browser or Word mean it's not a problem really. And if anything else is too small bumping up the native Windows scaling to 125% makes things big enough to read without breaking anything too badly.
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 15:48 |
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Are there any benchmarks for these Haswell 4xxxU chips? Since they're all U, unless they're quad core, I'm guessing Intel is saying that Ultra low power is ready for the mainstream? I'm trying to configure a couple new laptops at work and wondering if the Haswell in the 3000 or 7000 latitude will be enough for a daily driver, or if I should jump backward to the 3rd gen chips (since these things spend most of the day in a dock anyway).
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 17:00 |
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FISHMANPET posted:Are there any benchmarks for these Haswell 4xxxU chips? Since they're all U, unless they're quad core, I'm guessing Intel is saying that Ultra low power is ready for the mainstream? There are some synthetic benchmarks here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i5-4200U-Notebook-Processor.93563.0.html and http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-4500U-Notebook-Processor.93562.0.html It's kind of amazing that's it's halfway through September and there aren't any more Haswell ultrabooks available than there were back in July. Wasn't the Samsung 9 Plus supposed to be for sale at this point?
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 18:18 |
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Naffer posted:There are some synthetic benchmarks here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i5-4200U-Notebook-Processor.93563.0.html and http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-4500U-Notebook-Processor.93562.0.html It is; mine should arrive today.
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 18:19 |
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Naffer posted:There are some synthetic benchmarks here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i5-4200U-Notebook-Processor.93563.0.html and http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-4500U-Notebook-Processor.93562.0.html Those don't look... great to me. I guess the changes are all in energy consumption rather than performance, but those chips are raking around Sandy Bridge, not even Ivy Bridge.
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 18:38 |
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FISHMANPET posted:Those don't look... great to me. I guess the changes are all in energy consumption rather than performance, but those chips are raking around Sandy Bridge, not even Ivy Bridge. The lower wattage definitely extracts a speed penalty, but the 17W Haswell chips perform pretty similarly to the previous-gen U-series dual cores. If you're concerned, you might want to wait and see some of the 28W Haswell benchmarks. Those processors should start to be available soon.
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 18:50 |
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FISHMANPET posted:Those don't look... great to me. I guess the changes are all in energy consumption rather than performance, but those chips are raking around Sandy Bridge, not even Ivy Bridge. You do realize you're comparing an "Ultra Low Voltage" (-U) chip with plain "Low Voltage" (-M) chips, right? The fact that Haswell can match Sandy Bridge's 35W mobile processors with its 15W processors while also offering better performing Integrated Graphics seems pretty impressive to me.
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 19:48 |
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Duck and Cover posted:It is; mine should arrive today. Is there any word on when upgraded versions of that laptop will be out? If there was an 8 GB/ 256 G ssd version I'd probably go for it.
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 20:05 |
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GrizzlyCow posted:You do realize you're comparing an "Ultra Low Voltage" (-U) chip with plain "Low Voltage" (-M) chips, right? The fact that Haswell can match Sandy Bridge's 35W mobile processors with its 15W processors while also offering better performing Integrated Graphics seems pretty impressive to me. Ultra Low Voltage is all Intel is offering in the mobile space, other than quad core. So I don't have anything else to compare to. What do I do if I want a laptop with an i5 chip that I feel comfortable with them using as their daily work machine for the next 3 years? Hopefully the 28W will give some better performance. I don't want to have to give my staff Ivy Bridge because that's what has the power they need.
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# ? Sep 13, 2013 20:36 |