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I'm going to say something probably unpopular by stating that I don't think that Bush wasted an opportunity to strike at the 'enemies of America' or whatever after 9-11, because they were as decentralized then as they are now, and there really wasn't a way to collectively strike or retaliate against them after 9-11 more than what Bush did immediately following the events. Obviously, the protracted and needless wars that followed in the name of and wake of the events were wrongful, stupid things, but I don't feel that he ever really had a chance to strike at or dismantle a centralized enemy. On a different note, as a response to the events in Syriah, and as a way to exhaust-vent the gasses expelled by constantly flipping opinions on how wrong Obama is, Hannity has been consistently and constantly calling for heavy strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities. Keep in mind that this is while simultaneously decrying how involved Russia is getting in the whole scenario. Not a single guest, even the ones who oppose his whatever-the-mood-strikes-him opinion of the day are have ever asked him "How do you think Russia, let alone China, would respond to the US forgoing limited strikes in Syriah and instead launching a full on assault of Iran?" More than the double-talk, more than the constant flip flopping, this is has been what's caused me to to ridiculous eye-rolling doubletakes at the car radio. The man literally shouts that we must fully bombard Iran, and in the same exact breath states that any strikes (or negotiations or anything at all really) invites more Russian intervention in the region. Yeah because Russia will totally just blink off leveling major Iranian institutions and weapons works with heavy military strikes. It goes beyond him pandering to morons, or even willful self ignorance.
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Phone posted:O'Reilly just played the Second City clip. What's the Second City clip? I consume unhealthy levels of this poison and I haven't heard of it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ For those not in the know, Second City is a comedy group/school. Let's take a look at some of their alumni: Alan Arkin Joan Rivers John Belushi Bill Murray Dan Aykroyd Eugene Levy Andy Dick Jane Lynch Mike Myers Bob Odenkirk Steve Carell Jeff Garlin Stephen Colbert Amy Poehler Tina Fey Keegan-Michael Key You've probably never have heard of any of these people. Phone fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Sep 12, 2013 |
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Phone posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ Don't forget about John Candy. EDIT: In conservative media news, I heard from a colleague yesterday that we "don't drill for oil like we used to". I know it's getting repetitive at this point to talk about conservatives denying objective reality but I was just floored by that one, probably because I was hearing it in person.
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I just searched for the WW3 kickstarter video to post to FB, and I found several right wing sites lauding it for "making fun of liberals" while failing to notice the Koch Brothers reference at the end.
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Sep 12, 2013 13:26
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Did that Daily Caller slam piece on the new Crossfire panelist actually bear Tucker Carlson's name on the byline, or did he just hide behind "The Editors"?
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quote:American poverty just ain’t what it used to be. A new report from the Census Bureau found that 80.9% of households considered poverty stricken have cell phones along with their landline phones, and 58.2% have computers. 96.1% of those in “poverty” have televisions, and 83% have some sort of DVR.
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I can't really blame them, its actually funny and mocks Obama and friends. Theyve been trying to do that for years and now someone did it for them. I just didn't realize they were so desperate for it they'd latch on to something that barely needs two words changed to nail them as hard as any Obama fan got it. I also don't get offended when people pull out the OOOH OBAMA YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR poo poo. He saved me from a Sarah Palin vice presidency and 8 years of Republican presidents. Considering what they would have don e with a lot of our current events you're drat right he's my savior.
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Sep 12, 2013 15:07
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Those filthy poors, needing air conditioning to keep from dying of heat stroke.... Where's that Fox News "refrigerator poors" graphic when you need it?!?
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Sep 12, 2013 15:08
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THOSE POORS HAVE DVRS! (Ignores Moore's Law and the decreasing cost of digital storage) They shouldn't be able to record entertainment that they would otherwise miss while working 60 hour weeks.
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Sep 12, 2013 15:11
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bigtom posted:Those filthy poors, needing air conditioning to keep from dying of heat stroke.... In that graphic it was 99.6%. The gap between rich and poor widens 
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They even have clothes. In my day the poor had the decency to wear comical barrels to hide their nudity.
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Aww, let's admit it, the poors have it way better now than they did 100 years ago. Well, I mean, everyone does, but we're just talking about the poors, okay?
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Big Beef City posted:I'm going to say something probably unpopular by stating that I don't think that Bush wasted an opportunity to strike at the 'enemies of America' or whatever after 9-11, because they were as decentralized then as they are now, and there really wasn't a way to collectively strike or retaliate against them after 9-11 more than what Bush did immediately following the events. I meant "wasted opportunity" more in the sense of being able to do something positive with what was obviously an unprecedentedly united country at the time. Even most people who didn't like him or vote for him gave him the benefit of the doubt and got behind him for a while. Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:Poverty statistics Cain brought this up today and was citing the income levels for poverty in the U.S. Something like $15,000 a year for a family of 2 and $24,000 for a family of four. Or there abouts anyway but that's not what got me. After listing the numbers he said "And that's before taxes!" Wait a moment Herman. I thought those people didn't pay any taxes and were all freeloaders with no skin in the game, etc. etc.
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bigtom posted:Those filthy poors, needing air conditioning to keep from dying of heat stroke....  Gotta love the around poor.
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I don't get the inclusion of gas/electric stoves. Gas stoves have seen widespread commercial use since the 1880's. It's only natural that something that's existed for over a century and is a cornerstone in supplying a one of humanities most basic needs would be widespread. The fact that over 3% of households don't have a gas or electric stove points to a serious problem involving how much time and money the poorest people have available to spend towards cooking.
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I'm crossposting this from another thread because I think it's a perfect rebuttal to the "poor people have appliances!" meme:WampaLord posted:What's hilarious is that most people who are renting don't actually "own" any of those things, they just have access to them as part of their rent. I can't take my apartment's fridge, stove, washer, dryer, microwave or dishwasher with me when I leave. They do not actually belong to me, I never purchased them. If I was suddenly homeless tomorrow, I would not be in possession of those appliances, they'd stay at my apartment for the next person who moves in. The poor (well, anyone who rents, really) don't actually own their appliances, they just rent access to them.
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Sep 12, 2013 23:32
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I want to know what the .4% without access to a fridge are doing. Is that like the percentage of totally homeless people or what?
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Sep 12, 2013 23:43
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At least .1% of them store their food within a 4 foot radius of a small shard of Mitt Romneys heart so technically they're doing okay too.
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cafel posted:I don't get the inclusion of gas/electric stoves. Gas stoves have seen widespread commercial use since the 1880's. It's only natural that something that's existed for over a century and is a cornerstone in supplying a one of humanities most basic needs would be widespread. The fact that over 3% of households don't have a gas or electric stove points to a serious problem involving how much time and money the poorest people have available to spend towards cooking. If the poor are doing anything other than cooking bland nutrient paste in fires burning their own poo poo the whole system is wrong and must be burnt down at all costs. And they should consider themselves LUCKY to have the nutrient paste.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:If the poor are doing anything other than cooking bland nutrient paste in fires burning their own poo poo the whole system is wrong and must be burnt down at all costs. And they should consider themselves LUCKY to have the nutrient paste. Hell, they should consider themselves lucky for the privilege of dieing in a garment factory fire.
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Glenn Beck is now a pacifist because "war is a progressive idea" and Hillary Clinton is basically Woodrow Wilson or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SILdDYqAtKQ He's now finding that he can extend this thesis to other politicians. For example, we learn today that Mitt Romney was a progressive because he favored going to war. I bet all the radical left wingers in America are sad now that they didn't vote for noted progressive Curtis LeMay to become Vice President back in '68!
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Joementum posted:Glenn Beck is now a pacifist because "war is a progressive idea" and Hillary Clinton is basically Woodrow Wilson or something. Never has this image been more appropriate: 
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Wow that bow tie. It's like he's channeling Tucker Carlson's decomposing corpse of a career.
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Joementum posted:Glenn Beck is now a pacifist because "war is a progressive idea" and Hillary Clinton is basically Woodrow Wilson or something. Is that a penis in the background?
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Joementum posted:Glenn Beck is now a pacifist because "war is a progressive idea" and Hillary Clinton is basically Woodrow Wilson or something. I mean, of course that's right, there has only been wars since about the 1870's correct?
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Joementum posted:Glenn Beck is now a pacifist because "war is a progressive idea" and Hillary Clinton is basically Woodrow Wilson or something. Beck loved how he felt on 9/12/2001 so much that he started a national club about it, and now he doesn't want to share the feeling of camaraderie that only comes from the murder of thousands of fellow citizens. FYGM indeed.
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He must really hate that one ultra-progressive guy who went around on a loving bus tour cheerleading frivolous progressive war then, what was that guys name? Flynn Brech or something? http://archive.glennbeck.com/news/04212003.shtml
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ToxicSlurpee posted:If the poor are doing anything other than cooking bland nutrient paste in fires burning their own poo poo the whole system is wrong and must be burnt down at all costs. And they should consider themselves LUCKY to have the nutrient paste. Coach will set you straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTwpBLzxe4U
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Mercury_Storm posted:Wow that bow tie. It's like he's channeling Tucker Carlson's decomposing corpse of a career. Speaking of whom, let's see what The Daily Caller thinks of the new version of Crossfire or, more specifically, what they think of Stephanie Cutter. quote:To watch this latest incarnation of Crossfire is to confront, head-on, the defining unspoken reality of human existence: bad people like Stephanie Cutter can climb, in defiance of taste and public demand, to a position of success. The Daily Caller is, of course, run by Tucker Carlson who hosted Crossfire in its previous incarnation until it was cancelled. But this totally isn't sour grapes.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:He must really hate that one ultra-progressive guy who went around on a loving bus tour cheerleading frivolous progressive war then, what was that guys name? Flynn Brech or something? Well, he heard Hillary Clinton speak, then he looked went on wikipedia for Progressives and he came to his senses now. Wait, does that mean he use to be a Progressive? and the Founding Fathers went to war, were they Progressives too 
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Modern Day Hercules posted:I want to know what the .4% without access to a fridge are doing. Is that like the percentage of totally homeless people or what? Had a summer job once doing maintenance work for a vacation property. My accommodations had an ice box, not a proper refrigerator. There was a little door on the outside where a delivery guy would slide in a new chunk of ice as the old one melted. I imagine people in dormitories, renting single rooms, and actual homeless make up the overwhelming majority of that group though.
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cafel posted:The fact that over 3% of households don't have a gas or electric stove points to a serious problem involving how much time and money the poorest people have available to spend towards cooking. You wouldn't have one if you're living long term in a motel/hotel or certain other kinds of housing. Plus a lot of people do just roll with a microwave/hot plate setup, or use outside grills, or other things like that.
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Joementum posted:Glenn Beck is now a pacifist because "war is a progressive idea" and Hillary Clinton is basically Woodrow Wilson or something. Beck is like a toddler who refuses to play with his favorite toy anymore because he saw his sister having fun with it.
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The best part of that video for me is when it cuts to his staff and they're just ignoring him and reading on their laptops.
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Modern Day Hercules posted:I want to know what the .4% without access to a fridge are doing. Is that like the percentage of totally homeless people or what? The last time someone I knew brought up the statistics about what appliances poor people "owned", the data actually came from housing surveys done during a census, so none of the statistics included the worst-off, most in poverty segment of the population. "Households" don't include the homeless and transient, or people that are lying on the form to hide the fact that the apartment houses 10 illegals packed in like sardines. So often these stats aren't even including the worst of the poor.
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Joementum posted:The best part of that video for me is when it cuts to his staff and they're just ignoring him and reading on their laptops. I'd like to imagine most of them are just facepalming mentally and thinking, "Well, it's a paycheck."
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