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Are the Heavenly Cookies added to the regular multiplier or are they a separate multiplier?
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Sep 12, 2013 13:55
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I now understand why Red Cookies are useless after Get Lucky. I got to the trillions needed for Get Lucky thanks to 2 cookie chains and 2 elder frenzies, but now that I have double the length of regular frenzies, a cookie infusion nets me 6 trillion during a frenzy. It is insane!
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Sep 12, 2013 13:58
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kissekatt posted:Are the Heavenly Cookies added to the regular multiplier or are they a separate multiplier? They're added into the regular multiplier, but it additionally displays it separately.
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Sep 12, 2013 14:35
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https://www.google.com/trends/explore?hl=en-GB#q=cookie clicker, call of duty&date=today 3-m&cmpt=q
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Sep 12, 2013 16:44
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I can't wait until I start getting Xbox Live messages with stuff like "YO FAG PEEP MY CPS I hosed YOURE MOM BRO"
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Sep 12, 2013 17:06
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FreelanceSocialist posted:I can't wait until I start getting Xbox Live messages with stuff like "YO FAG PEEP MY CPS I hosed YOURE MOM BRO" The beauty is that if you cheat in Cookie Clicker, you're only griefing yourself. Or people who care about other people's CPS. I'm a Cookie Clicker Elitist 
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Sep 12, 2013 18:12
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WhitemageofDOOM posted:Red cookies are better when you have low CpS, but worse as you go up. AnonSpore posted:Define low? I can't be sure in this world of quadrillions. I just ran some napkin math (rounded a whole bunch). A red cookie on average yields: 402.14*CpS + 192Billion + .01125*Clicking Frenzy A gold cookie on average yields: 854.14*CpS + 10.6Billion + .016625*Clicking Frenzy Ignoring Clicking Frenzy, gold surpasses red at ~400,000,000CpS With 10clicks/sec its lowered to ~380,000,000CpS And with 30clicks/sec (someone used this # for autoclick last page) its ~350,000,000CpS and you are a horrible person for using autoclick. Have no clue how the numbers change after Get Lucky lets Frenzy overlap with golden cookies. But that number really doesn't matter as you will have well more than 400,000,000CpS before you can afford Get Lucky. AnonSpore posted:That is, when is it worth turning off the grandmapocalypse? There was a whole lot of math a page or so back there, but basically never buy Elder Covenant (except for achievement, and immediately buy to have it removed) because Elder Pledge is better than Covenant. Because the -5% CpS is a flat -5% of your total CpS (not additive like the cookie upgrades) and having a lower CpS also reduces what you get from golden cookies. If you are actually clicking the golden cookies, I think the threshold that the -5% is greater than the flat Elder Pledge cost an hour is extremely low, like 5,000,000 CpS. And Pledges don't hurt your CpS if you just let it idle. By the time you can afford the Covenant, you don't want it. Reverend Dr fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Sep 12, 2013 |
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Sep 12, 2013 18:45
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nimby posted:The beauty is that if you cheat in Cookie Clicker, you're only griefing yourself. Or people who care about other people's CPS. Haven't cheated, don't intend to. It's going to take me forever to get those last 6 time machines (and 11 upgrades  )
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Sep 12, 2013 19:00
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Migishu posted:Haven't cheated, don't intend to. Yeah, I'm almost at this point as well. Is the only thing left to do just to leave it on in the background for like a month? Or should I just prioritize getting all the achievements and then resetting with Heavenly Chips and starting over, so that I can get to this point faster?
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Sep 12, 2013 19:09
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Joke's on you, there's a shadow achievement you can only get from cheating. YOUR 100%
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Sep 12, 2013 19:11
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He really needs to add a Shadow Achievement for not having cheated, that'd make this one of the few games with real moral choice.
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Sep 12, 2013 19:14
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Nah, we'll have that one, too.
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Sep 12, 2013 19:15
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I use an auto golden cookie clicker, no regrets  Though I did turn it off for when I was going for Neverclick and True Neverclick. Go me?
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Sep 12, 2013 19:17
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I don't care enough to cheat. Feels good man.
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Sep 12, 2013 19:33
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Kibayasu posted:I use an auto golden cookie clicker, no regrets Speaking of "True Neverclick," whats the deal on that? Make a million without clicking? The wikia article's information on that is written terribly. E: Okay, after looking into it, it requires a restart. So, you can do this after getting the restart achievement? Do you also get Neverclick if you get True Neverclick first? (Same for the restart achievements, do they stack if you hold out all the way to quadrillions?) Jeff Goldblum fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Sep 12, 2013 |
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Sep 12, 2013 20:12
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Jeff Goldblum posted:E: Okay, after looking into it, it requires a restart. So, you can do this after getting the restart achievement? Do you also get Neverclick if you get True Neverclick first? (Same for the restart achievements, do they stack if you hold out all the way to quadrillions?)
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Sep 12, 2013 20:20
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The only time elder covenant is worthwhile is if you're idling and using an auto golden cookie clicker
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Sep 12, 2013 20:35
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Avocados posted:You backed up the save first though right? Nope. 
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Sep 12, 2013 20:39
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Is it a better idea to get Get Lucky as soon as I can buy it, or should I stockpile even more cookies so that I can get the full benefit of a frenzied lucky bonus even after I buy it?
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Sep 12, 2013 21:13
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Does anyone have a formula or list for the cost of Time Machines? Because I want to see how much cookies I'll need to get them to 100.
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Sep 12, 2013 21:23
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AnonSpore posted:Is it a better idea to get Get Lucky as soon as I can buy it, or should I stockpile even more cookies so that I can get the full benefit of a frenzied lucky bonus even after I buy it? As soon as you pass the point where it caps now Get Lucky will be improving your cookie production, and even until then you're still doubling the amount of time Frenzy lasts. There's literally no reason not to buy Get Lucky as soon as you can afford it.
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Sep 12, 2013 21:25
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NIV3K posted:Does anyone have a formula or list for the cost of Time Machines? Because I want to see how much cookies I'll need to get them to 100. https://drive.google.com/previewtemplate?id=0ArFE9Ad6ezvBdEk3X3BoU2tQckRGZGZMX0xCQmVtbVE&mode=public This is the spreadsheet we're all using. You can set a goal for each of the buildings and it'll tell you exactly how many cookies it'll take and also provide an ETA at your current cookie rate. Change these two cells to correct a math error. pre:B1 =CkHzBase*CkHzMult*multkit*(if(upgrades!B106="Y",1,(if(upgrades!B105="Y",.95,1)))) B2 =1+mult5p+mult10p+mult15p+multres+multchi Dr. Arbitrary fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Sep 12, 2013 |
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Sep 12, 2013 21:25
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I gave A Dark Room a go and it's pretty fun. Ends too abruptly, I guess. The Anti-Idler game is just plain ridiculous with the amount of stuff that's there. It's definitely not a pick-up and play thing.
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Sep 12, 2013 21:33
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NIV3K posted:Does anyone have a formula or list for the cost of Time Machines? Because I want to see how much cookies I'll need to get them to 100. X*1.15^y x=Initial building cost y=Current building amount 100 Time Machines from 0 to 100 $1,106,424,597,815,920.00
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Sep 12, 2013 21:33
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:https://drive.google.com/previewtemplate?id=0ArFE9Ad6ezvBdEk3X3BoU2tQckRGZGZMX0xCQmVtbVE&mode=public
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Sep 12, 2013 21:44
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I had my first 6 trillion cookie chain. That was tremendous.
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Sep 12, 2013 21:49
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NIV3K posted:That sheet is telling me to buy more than 100 of an upgrade, is that really something people are doing? It seemed to me like you should just get to 100 and then stop. Someone please tell me if I'm wrong. It'll always tell you what will give you the most Chz for the investment. Also, you need to edit the spreadsheet for a math error. pre:B1 =CkHzBase*CkHzMult*multkit*(if(upgrades!B106="Y",1,(if(upgrades!B105="Y",.95,1)))) B2 =1+mult5p+mult10p+mult15p+multres+multchi
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Sep 12, 2013 21:50
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NIV3K posted:That sheet is telling me to buy more than 100 of an upgrade, is that really something people are doing? It seemed to me like you should just get to 100 and then stop. Someone please tell me if I'm wrong. A quick way to show that you shouldn't stop at 100 of a building. Portals At 100 portals the next one is 1.9 billion, for 66,656 more cookies per second. 100 times machines costs 144.9 trillion for 869,128 more cookies per second. You can buy 17 portals for the same price as the 101st time machine. That's 1,133,152(17*66,656) more cookies per second.
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Sep 12, 2013 21:52
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:It'll always tell you what will give you the most Chz for the investment. Also, you need to edit the spreadsheet for a math error. It seemed like it was giving me correct numbers without any changes, and putting those numbers in gives me wrong numbers.
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Sep 12, 2013 21:57
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SlayVus posted:A quick way to show that you shouldn't stop at 100 of a building. Portals To be fair, depending on how high his base CPS is and how many cat upgrades he has, the achievement bonus might tip things the other way.
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Sep 12, 2013 22:03
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NIV3K posted:It seemed like it was giving me correct numbers without any changes, and putting those numbers in gives me wrong numbers. What, really? Like down to the exact cookie with the original calculations? That's bizarre. I just re downloaded the spreadsheet to confirm and I'm still getting the wrong numbers unless I make those changes. Have you input your heavenly chips and achievements?
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Sep 12, 2013 22:05
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:It'll always tell you what will give you the most Chz for the investment. Also, you need to edit the spreadsheet for a math error. What's the error? When I do nothing the numbers seem to match up. When I change those cells CPS and per click are both way too high.
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Sep 12, 2013 22:18
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:What, really? Like down to the exact cookie with the original calculations? That's bizarre. I just re downloaded the spreadsheet to confirm and I'm still getting the wrong numbers unless I make those changes. Yep, down to the decimal it's right. And I've entered all my achievements and my lack of any heavenly chips (just started the game a few days ago).
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Sep 12, 2013 22:19
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The default is working fine for me too, plugging in the B1 change doesn't change anything for me, but changing B2 increases my multiplier by 1.00, throwing everything off.
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Sep 12, 2013 22:20
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I'm unable to see what that google thing is since for some reason it's loading in Russian or someshit, but it sounds like it's different from what I'm using so I'll mention it: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73817062/cookies/cookies.html It can import the save directly so you don't have to manually enter everything in, and all of the numbers are accurate. Pretty handy!
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Sep 12, 2013 22:20
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LAY-ZX posted:I'm unable to see what that google thing is since for some reason it's loading in Russian or someshit, but it sounds like it's different from what I'm using so I'll mention it: I like that site and use it to judge purchases, but it doesn't have the cookies banked to maximize gold output field. Or cookies to bank before next update.
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Sep 12, 2013 22:22
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:https://drive.google.com/previewtemplate?id=0ArFE9Ad6ezvBdEk3X3BoU2tQckRGZGZMX0xCQmVtbVE&mode=public It'd be fine if you've actually got the upgrade, but otherwise...
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Sep 12, 2013 22:27
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SodomizeTheWeak posted:I like that site and use it to judge purchases, but it doesn't have the cookies banked to maximize gold output field. Or cookies to bank before next update. It kinda does. First line under golden cookies tells you 20 minutes of production. A little non-effort math will tell you what you need to not spend past. I prefer this calculator because of the import and the calculations are instant.
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Sep 12, 2013 22:27
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SodomizeTheWeak posted:I like that site and use it to judge purchases, but it doesn't have the cookies banked to maximize gold output field. Or cookies to bank before next update. Take the 20 min production value and shift it one decimal point and there you go.
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Sep 12, 2013 22:50
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There is a problem with the spread sheet. Here are two copies of the spread sheet. One without the changes, one with the changes and my current cookie clicker window.
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Sep 12, 2013 22:58
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