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899 Panigale = 15,999 (148hp) S1000RR = 15,050 (193hp) If the S1000RR (not HP4) and the 1199 (base or S) were in competition together then this just solidifies how much more appealing the BMW is. You have to be a real die hard Ducatista to get an 899 over the beamer. Obviously the Pani is a beautiful bike and the RR, like most BMW's, turns people off with its asymmetry but it has sooo much more to offer. New colors this year too a grey/white and this  Well that's my opinion, I lean towards function over form though, oh and value. I suppose the RR is getting long in the tooth, and the Pani is gorgeous, but for nearly identical electronics packages, more horsepower, and cheaper price (plus people are reporting they're getting amazing deals otd on last years model RR's) I'll take the power and value over the new hotness. Nitramster fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Sep 12, 2013 |
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Sep 12, 2013 02:19
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Installed the side arms and top box. Enjoy a lovely cellphone pic from my kitchen window.
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Sep 12, 2013 02:42
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Nitramster posted:899 Panigale = 15,999 (148hp) From what i've read the S1000rr is nearly faultless other than the fact that it has an inline-4 which makes it Japanesey. Doesn't the current 848 have an msrp around 12000$? 4000$ is a considerable price jump, and a Base Panigale 1199 is around the 18k mark, may as well go for that.
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Nitramster posted:899 Panigale = 15,999 (148hp) Consider that the S1000RR is a 'little' bit much to ride power wise if you get enjoyment out of actually beating on the bikes, especially at the track. I've also heard they are not the easist things to get into a competitive setup roadracing wise... though neither are the Ducatis. If I was looking at a 1000cc in general / track weapon I'd end up with an RSV4... as an actual race weapon I'd probably end up on a ZX10R or GSXR1000. Ducati is just different, which is nice sometimes and terrible the rest of the time. BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Sep 12, 2013 |
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Sep 12, 2013 03:14
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Edit: ^^^ They have the HP4 if you want to be set up for the track, it uses the same engine. Also, the WSBK bikes have practically the same engine, and BMW sells from the factory the race ECU's for your S1000RR. I'm sure getting a Japanese litre for track use is more reasonable for most people, but I'm strictly commentating on the top 2 bikes of the last couple years. Keep in mind to bring the japanese bikes up to speed you still have to spend a lot of money to get the raw stats the beamer comes stock with. We have seen the cycle journalists say over and over the GSXR continually dominates handling feel throughout the years, but it's underpowered these days. The RSV4 is awesome as well, but Aprilia dealerships are few and far between. I just did a google search and they are 180hp at the crank ( so what 165-170 at wheel?) and 15k with abs. A better deal than I thought! The base 848 was around 13k the last couple years, with the Evo version about 15k. The S1000RR has come out above the 1199 in every comparison I've read, and the base 1199 doesn't have anti-lock brakes and costs 3k more. Might as well stick with the 15k for the S1000RR. There was one up for sale on Los Angeles Craigs with 15k miles for $10k last week. Pretty soon they're going to mostly all be under 10k used, and I will be looking for one in black or Tri-color. Nitramster fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Sep 12, 2013 |
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Sep 12, 2013 03:18
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BlackMK4 posted:Consider that the S1000RR is a 'little' bit much to ride power wise if you get enjoyment out of actually beating on the bikes, especially at the track. I've also heard they are not the easist things to get into a competitive setup roadracing wise... though neither are the Ducatis. If I was looking at a 1000cc in general / track weapon I'd end up with an RSV4... as an actual race weapon I'd probably end up on a ZX10R or GSXR1000. The BMW has mode switches for diff power profiles so you can just turn the power down and "beat" on it all you want. BMW has a pretty great race parts catalog, tons of after market support for Ducati. Who told you they were more difficult to setup for racing? Maybe marginally more expensive. HNasty fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Sep 12, 2013 |
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Sep 12, 2013 04:09
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Sep 12, 2013 04:18
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One of the best gens of the gixxer.
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HNasty posted:The BMW has mode switches for diff power profiles so you can just turn the power down and "beat" on it all you want. BMW has a pretty great race parts catalog, tons of after market support for Ducati. Who told you they were more difficult to setup for racing? Maybe marginally more expensive. From reading over at the WERA forum and talking to certain shops that deal with AMA/WERA bikes.  edit: Might as well add some details - The Ducati 848/1198 kinda need offset triples and an adjustable height rod for the rear and probably a linear rate link to get it to turn in / not run wide / handle like a Japanese bike... now for the problem - look what that does to your classing. They simply are very hard to be competive with, especially in superstock/supersport. Just not as easy to setup as an R6/GSXR. The S1000RR went through suspension geometry changes for 2012 that allows them to handle similarly while stock to the early bikes did with triples, link, etc. I've heard of motor and trans issues though. BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Sep 12, 2013 |
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Sep 12, 2013 04:24
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Makes me miss my old 600. As mentioned, that era was really where the GSXR styling hit its peak in apparently a lot of peoples minds.
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Sep 12, 2013 04:38
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I've never thought so. I always think of the old triangle headlight sledgehammer as having the finest gixxerbrah styling: The slightly later ones look like the gsx650f to me. 
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Sep 12, 2013 04:44
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The_Fur posted:Here in the Netherlands you see more and more running around. Provided they have indicators and such they can be street-legal. They are basically treated as cars law wise (since every vehicle with more then 2 wheels is). IIRC you don't even have to wear a helmet though you'd have to be an idiot not to. If it's a car, it needs either a seat belt (like on trikes) or you need to wear a helmet.
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Sep 12, 2013 11:49
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Slavvy posted:I've never thought so. I always think of the old triangle headlight sledgehammer as having the finest gixxerbrah styling: 04 600 Yellow, best looking gixxer. I'm a little biased though 
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Sep 12, 2013 14:31
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:04 600 Yellow, best looking gixxer. I'm a little biased though That's a face only a mother could love.
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Sep 12, 2013 14:48
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Zool posted:That's a face only a mother could love.  that is a beautiful machine and I demand you apologize to the bike and the world at large.
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Sep 12, 2013 16:41
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:04 600 Yellow, best looking gixxer. I'm a little biased though Looks like they forgot to finish putting all the paint/stickers on it. I see your 600 and raise you the 750. 
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Sep 12, 2013 16:51
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Makes me miss my old 600. As mentioned, that era was really where the GSXR styling hit its peak in apparently a lot of peoples minds. Yeah I can't remember but you're probably the same guy who agreed with me last time I said 03-04 gixxers were the best looking ones. 05 started with the swoopy swirly fairings and it went downhill from there. *been here for too long*
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Sep 12, 2013 18:31
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Y'all are so wrong, because the moSt RAD GSXR is this one:
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Sep 12, 2013 19:28
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Any GSXR in the Alstare livery is amazingly sexy. Movistar scheme is second to that. SRAD GSXRs (in my mind) were kind of the low point of styling in the line. Earlier ones, and the ones immediately after, in like 2000, when they went to fuel injection, were way better looking. But yeah, that alstare livery is classic.
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Basically whenever you got into liking sportbikes is the time period of the best looking bikes. For me it was 1st and 2nd gen R6 and R1 along with the 954rr that can't be beat.
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n8r posted:Basically whenever you got into liking sportbikes is the time period of the best looking bikes. For me it was 1st and 2nd gen R6 and R1 along with the 954rr that can't be beat. Probably true, as I think the late-90's ZX6R's are amazing looking, but I also dont like the SRADs, so I dunno 
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Well, that's just because you aren't Suzuki Lover Number One! Haven't seen him outside the dirtbike thread or the racing thread in quite a while.
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Sep 12, 2013 22:42
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Linedance posted:Y'all are so wrong, because the moSt RAD GSXR is this one: And here I thought Porsches had whale tails
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Sep 12, 2013 22:49
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The early 2000-era alstares  
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the bsd boys posted:And here I thought Porsches had whale tails You think you know whale tails? You don't know poo poo about whale tails!  On a side note, how crap is the handling on one of these if they have an ohlins rear? For my next bike the choices are rapidly boiling down to either one of these or an rsv mille (rc51 is hilariously overpriced here), but the price difference is a good couple of grand. I know the mille is better in every single way but the TLR looks so loving cool.
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Sep 12, 2013 23:19
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Legdiian posted:Looks like they forgot to finish putting all the paint/stickers on it. I see your 600 and raise you the 750. What the hell is up with these exhausts? It's like they just stopped caring and slapped something on that was lying around. The world needs more undertail exhausts.
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Aargh posted:What the hell is up with these exhausts? It's like they just stopped caring and slapped something on that was lying around. The world needs more undertail exhausts. Bzzt wrong. Those exhausts allowed you to not have a hot exhaust roasting your nuts when you ride. Also the older sportbikes had pretty decent storage space in them. My buddy's 929 could fit a 6 pack if I recall correctly. You can also fit softbags without the risk of burning up your stuff.
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Aargh posted:What the hell is up with these exhausts? It's like they just stopped caring and slapped something on that was lying around. The world needs more undertail exhausts. ...go look and see how big a stock 2000 R1 can is.
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Sep 13, 2013 00:35
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n8r posted:Bzzt wrong. You don't like roasted nuts?
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Aargh posted:What the hell is up with these exhausts? It's like they just stopped caring and slapped something on that was lying around. The world needs more undertail exhausts. They actually flowed really well for stock exhausts and given the low noise levels they had to conform to. A 1999-2003 gsxr 1000 exhaust is a really good upgrade for a dr650, and they have the same flange. Flows great and low noise. Aftermarket exhausts were basically just louder. Only once you got into big, stepped headers and such did you really see any performance gains.
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Linedance posted:Y'all are so wrong, because the moSt RAD GSXR is this one: This era didn't have the best bikes, but holy poo poo those paintjobs   Those fuckin ram air hoses    The '90s - when new graphics were motherfucking bold
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 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=63b_1379002451 It's not a crash, it's a pillion butt-cam.
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Sep 13, 2013 01:54
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thylacine posted:
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I don't know what it is but I'm crazy about old bugeye sport bikes. SRAD GSXR's, FZR's, they're just so dang good looking.
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Sep 13, 2013 03:08
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This is one of my favorite paint schemes. I think someone on here also owns one.
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Especially with the white wheels. Gorgeous! 
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Sep 13, 2013 06:02
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Snowdens Secret posted:This era didn't have the best bikes, but holy poo poo those paintjobs The ZX-7R (and RR) in plain green is the best-looking Japanese bike of that era, IMO. I'm a sucker for strange vents and airflow stuff all over the place, and frames that look like they're designed to carry elephants.
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Speaking of ZX6RR porn - http://www.flickr.com/photos/22697976@N00/sets/72157601582731693/ I actually use the full size version of this one for the desktop on my 27" iMac. Mmmm  Also, Eric of EDR racing used to have a few ZX7RRs... just sold them. drat were they sick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCkyIYjtwnc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsjpHrYM30U
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I/motomind need to find a ZX7R front end.
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