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Stymie posted:the true nature of all hierarchical organization is revealed in the mirror universe episodes where the "evil" terran empire has to be cartoonishly so to have any sort of contrast
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Sep 13, 2013 20:23
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people would rather move to rape planet or put on a red shirt and stand around in a hallway for 10 years than live as a civilian in the federation which tells you just about everything you need to know about the federation
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Sep 13, 2013 20:51
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angry_keebler posted:people would rather move to rape planet or put on a red shirt and stand around in a hallway for 10 years than live as a civilian in the federation which tells you just about everything you need to know about the federation we don't really see many fed civilians outside of conflict scenarios which is just more support for the theory that starfleet is just the federation's utopian asylum for all the autists, imperialists and creeps
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Sep 13, 2013 21:04
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the only civilians we ever really see are picard and sisko's family and they run a vineyard and a cajun restaurant respectively and each have a disdain for the infinite food supply that federation tech provides
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Sep 13, 2013 21:17
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I miss Stargate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYnzZ2rczSo
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Sep 13, 2013 22:25
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:once you start seeing anti-semitic stereotypes in the ferengi on ds9 it's hard to stop yeah it's kind of a grey area. most of their behavior can just be classified as greedy, it doesn't necessarily need to be anti-semitic. unless i've missed some stuff.
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Sep 13, 2013 22:59
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:yeah it's kind of a grey area. most of their behavior can just be classified as greedy, it doesn't necessarily need to be anti-semitic. unless i've missed some stuff. Did you miss the part where all Ferengi have big noses and big ears?
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Sep 13, 2013 23:33
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I mean come on
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Sep 13, 2013 23:33
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Smdh otherwise
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Sep 13, 2013 23:34
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angry_keebler posted:people would rather move to rape planet or put on a red shirt and stand around in a hallway for 10 years than live as a civilian in the federation which tells you just about everything you need to know about the federation well seeing as there's only one rape planet i'm inclined to call that the libertarian experiment of the 24th century
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Sep 13, 2013 23:50
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lol rape planet was so stupid
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Sep 13, 2013 23:56
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:yeah it's kind of a grey area. most of their behavior can just be classified as greedy, it doesn't necessarily need to be anti-semitic. unless i've missed some stuff. Grandmaster.flv posted:Did you miss the part where all Ferengi have big noses and big ears? short, swarthy, big nosed dudes who are constantly counting their money and spitballing how they can rip off
 any time you bring this up with a really serious ds9 fan they will point out that almost every ferengi character was written by a jewish writer and played by a jewish actor this doesn't really excuse it
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Sep 13, 2013 23:58
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Sep 14, 2013 00:01
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♪♩♫♬ come to quark's ♬♫♩♪ ♪♩♫♬ quark's is fun ♬♫♩♪ ♪♩♫♬ come right now ♬♫♩♪ ♪♩♫♬ don't walk - run! ♬♫♩♪
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Sep 14, 2013 00:03
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:♪♩♫♬ come to quark's ♬♫♩♪ i will come to quarks and believe me, i will have fun
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Sep 14, 2013 00:08
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:short, swarthy, big nosed dudes who are constantly counting their money and spitballing how they can rip off yeah that's pretty bad. i guess i'm not super familiar with jewish stereotypes
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Sep 14, 2013 00:09
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:well seeing as there's only one rape planet i'm inclined to call that the libertarian experiment of the 24th century one rape planet that we know of starfleet does a lot of propaganda even when it can't possibly matter (kirk telling dr taylor that people don't use money in the future) so the federation could be 90% failed state rape planets for all we know
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Sep 14, 2013 00:57
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:short, swarthy, big nosed dudes who are constantly counting their money and spitballing how they can rip off not to mention their insatiable lust for shiksas
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Sep 14, 2013 01:08
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someone should de-allegorise lovecraft. like instead of gods you have miscegenation, the mere pondering of which drives men mad
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Al! posted:someone should de-allegorise lovecraft. like instead of gods you have miscegenation, the mere pondering of which drives men mad Lovecraft didn't need no allegories to be racist as gently caress tho
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:any time you bring this up with a really serious ds9 fan they will point out that almost every ferengi character was written by a jewish writer and played by a jewish actor it kinda does tho? like, shimerman specifically was playing up that angle not to mention the ferengis are very often portrayed as as or even more sympathetic than the humans, and readily calling out the federation on its bullshit. especially the bit with nog and jake where nog asks what motivates people in the federation and jake can't actually explain what 'bettering themselves' actually means
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Sep 14, 2013 03:00
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Can-O-Raid posted:Lovecraft didn't need no allegories to be racist as gently caress tho hey he repented once he married a jewess
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Sep 14, 2013 03:17
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raruler posted:I miss Stargate. nope, doesnt sound like a word anymore
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:hey he repented once he married a jewess yeah he mellowed out eventually. wish he hadn't offed himself, it would have been interesting to see his reaction to wwii
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Sep 14, 2013 03:46
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angry_keebler posted:one rape planet that we know of so, interesting question: can you conceive a setting which would be impossbile to re-interpret as a hellish dystopia?
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:so, interesting question: can you conceive a setting which would be impossbile to re-interpret as a hellish dystopia? no because all humans are evil and life is hell
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Sep 14, 2013 05:44
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:humans are evil and life is hell
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Sep 14, 2013 05:46
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for the purpose of annoying that transhumanist dude you work with
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Sep 14, 2013 06:27
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:no because all humans are evil and life is hell life is poo poo but people aren't evil they're just dumb and there's no hope of fixing that problem outside of a eugenic police state which is also unacceptable so we're boned and all scifi should be relentlessy depressing to reflect this
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Sep 14, 2013 06:48
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memory alpha has an article on rape
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Sep 14, 2013 07:02
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Ganguro King posted:memory alpha has an article on rape
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Sep 14, 2013 07:10
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Pretty sure any transhumanist would agree with that though? It's a lot more likely to annoy libertarians/capitalists/etc (I realize there are people who would call themselves libertarians and transhumanists, but as with all libertarians they are selfish misanthropic fucks who have entirely missed the point)
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finally saw man of steel. that was the most loudly, aggressively, explosively boring shitheap i've seen in a while
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Sep 14, 2013 13:03
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imagine if they let kevin smith release a super man film lmao
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Sep 14, 2013 13:04
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dehumanize yourself and face to snyder
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Sep 14, 2013 13:05
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supperman written by kevin smith directed by zack snyder
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glad i didn't bother seeing man of steel when's the last time anyone made a superman film that was actually good? i mean yeah superman is a lovely superhero anyway "oh look this person is literally invincible except for when he's in the presence of a magic rock; i wonder if the conflict this week is going to involve the magic rock somehow. how exciting."
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:so, interesting question: can you conceive a setting which would be impossbile to re-interpret as a hellish dystopia? the culture, duh Free drugs, computer buddies to talk to, you can do whatever, and basically no laws
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ol qwerty bastard posted:Pretty sure any transhumanist would agree with that though? every transhumanist i've ever met has been some kind of variation on "libertarian shitheel", sometimes overtly, sometimes not
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