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I'm having a bizarre issue in my current Burgundy game. I'm the Emperor of Francia, King of France, King of Burgundy. I have the Queen of Aquitaine and the King of Hungary as my vassals. (Won Hungary in a crusade.) They are not the problem though. The Duke of Provence is constantly being an rear end in a top hat by nominating other successors for the Kingdom of Burgundy and starting factions. His biggest bitch is that he wants control of the County of Venaissin. It's currently ruled by a count who is a direct vassal of my Emperor. When I attempt to transfer vassalage to the Duke of Provence the Count of Venaissin is not in the list of vassals I can transfer to him. I would prefer not to revoke the county and give it directly to the Duke of Provence as I don't want him getting more powerful than he is. I just can't figure out why I can't transfer this count to him to make him a direct vassal of the Duke instead of me, thus solving one of this guy's biggest complaints and maybe calming him down a bit. My only guess is that Venaissin is no longer a de jure part of the Duchy of Provence which makes me wonder why not having it is a complaint for the Duke of Provence if that's the case? Any ideas on why I can't pass this vassal on?
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Sep 14, 2013 05:40
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Counties can't drift out of duchies at all, so that's not it. That's really weird, and I can't think why it wouldn't show up... Uh... Did you try sorting by rank on the transfer vassalage screen, and double/triple checked? Dunno. Otherwise you could always try granting the count of Venaissin a county in a different kingdom and trying to transfer his vassalage to the other guy, that way the duke of Provence will be pissed at his new liege rather than you. Makes for ugly as gently caress internal borders though 
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Sep 14, 2013 05:43
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Yeah this piece of poo poo came to my court, I pressed his claim and he became independent. He refused vassalization even though his opinion was 100 because he was Italian and I'm Castille. Then I tried reloading and giving him land before pressing the claim. I gave him the land, and then the claim war for the county I wanted just wasn't available. So basically this game works in mysterious ways.
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Sep 14, 2013 05:46
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Yeah I sorted it by rank and the only count that showed up was one of my German counts. I even specifically looked for this guy's name which is Loui which was weird enough to stand out and he's not on the list at all. I'll give your suggestion a try and at least redirect the Duke's anger on to someone else. I wouldn't even care so much but the Kingdom of Burgundy has so few electors that if the Duke of Provence and even one or two others go against my nominee then I risk losing Burgundy and I don't want that.
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Sep 14, 2013 05:47
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Oh, did you check if he was revolting against the duke at the time? Like the duke was trying to revoke the county or something (war of tyranny)? You can't transfer his vassalage back to the duke if they're at war. That would make sense. Would also mean you couldn't transfer his vassalage to someone else, I don't think.
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Sep 14, 2013 05:49
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Oh I didn't even think of that. France is a constant battleground of petty wars between counts and dukes so I'm betting this is the issue.
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Sep 14, 2013 05:51
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fleshweasel posted:Yeah this piece of poo poo came to my court, I pressed his claim and he became independent. He refused vassalization even though his opinion was 100 because he was Italian and I'm Castille. Then I tried reloading and giving him land before pressing the claim. I gave him the land, and then the claim war for the county I wanted just wasn't available. So basically this game works in mysterious ways. Often, if a claimant's opinion of you is high enough, and all the other conditions are met - same culture, same religion, you have much more power than them, and you're two ranks higher than them (i.e. if they're a count, you must be a king) - this is enough to override the penalty for not being the claimant's de jure liege, and you can get someone whose claim you've just pressed to become your vassal. If you don't meet those requirements, however, it's virtually impossible. Note, however, that you don't have to give the courtier land before starting the war; you just have to give him land before making peace. In my current game, I pressed my courtier's claim on a neighboring county, got to 100% warscore, and landed him in one of my demesne counties before accepting the enemy surrender, and he got the claimed county and remained my vassal. Then I got the option to plot-revoke the county of my demesne I had given to him, which I did; he wasn't particularly happy, but the -80 for "revoked my title" plus the -20 for "title claimant" (on the title I had stripped from him) was a wash with the +100 for "pressed my claim," so he still didn't hate my guts too badly. (And since it was a plot revocation, I got no tyranny and gained +1 intrigue for my trouble.) Sure, his son will still have a -20 penalty towards me for that claim he'll inherit, but I can live with that. (Since he was outside my de jure title and not of my culture, just pressing his claim as a courtier and asking for vassalization would not have worked, even though he would have liked me much better that way.) So, my advice to you would be to reload your game again, press the claim, land him just before you make peace, and see how things work then. I can't explain why you don't get the option to press his claim once he's landed, but I think my suggestion should work. Glass Hand fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Sep 14, 2013 |
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Sep 14, 2013 07:14
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If I'm sending a councilor at someone (eg spy network to assassinate or chancellor to raise opinion) should I send them where they are or where their capital is? Like, if they're leading an army but not moving it, should I move the chancellor there?
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Sep 14, 2013 07:58
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StashAugustine posted:If I'm sending a councilor at someone (eg spy network to assassinate or chancellor to raise opinion) should I send them where they are or where their capital is? Like, if they're leading an army but not moving it, should I move the chancellor there? I'm actually unsure about chancellors, but I know for a fact that your spymaster has to be plopped down where the target currently is. Like if you want to kill the king of France and he's leading troops in Hainaut, you need to put your spymaster in Hainaut to make it work. The same applies to tutored children: you have to put your spymaster where the child is being tutored, i.e. guardian's place.
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Sep 14, 2013 08:22
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It's true with the proselytize action of the court chaplain, too. Courtiers not of your religion who are off leading armies will not be converted by a chaplain proselytizing in your capital.
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Sep 14, 2013 09:31
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Does the Muslim invasion CB (the 500 piety one) work differently than, er, every other invasion CB in the game? Invaded the Seljuks as the Fatimids, occupied all of Arabia and Syria, press enforce demands... and it just vassalizes everyone in Syria instead. It says "takes all occupied territory" which sounds like it shouldn't be different and is just bugging out. The gently caress? e: Just tested it on another game and I think the tooltip is just straight up wrong. You get any holdings owned by the person you're attacking, but vassalize everything else; the usual "take all occupied territory" does not happen 
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Sep 14, 2013 10:52
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Reveilled posted:I promised my daughter I'd find her a husband and then sort of forgot about it. So when she came back to remind me, apparently I just found some random fella to be her husband. Literally: 
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Sep 14, 2013 18:05
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Is it worth it to have two empire-level titles simultaneously in an elective setup? The Holy Polish Empire has a nice ring to it, but I don't wanna lose half my land in a bad election.
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Sep 14, 2013 20:50
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StashAugustine posted:Is it worth it to have two empire-level titles simultaneously in an elective setup? The Holy Polish Empire has a nice ring to it, but I don't wanna lose half my land in a bad election. Dude, totally. And if you lose half your land you can take that chance to get it all back. 
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Sep 14, 2013 21:07
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StashAugustine posted:Is it worth it to have two empire-level titles simultaneously in an elective setup? The Holy Polish Empire has a nice ring to it, but I don't wanna lose half my land in a bad election. Also it means you have a bunch of irritable king vassals who get the "Desires X title" malus.
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Sep 14, 2013 23:55
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Is CK2+ Cont. still causing crusades/jihad's not to be called?
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Sep 15, 2013 00:38
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So I just won a crusade for Italy from the Fraticelli Genoese. All the trade posts (everywhere) seem to have been wiped out. Is there anything I should with merchant republics as an Emperor?
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Sep 15, 2013 01:49
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Any news on a new DLC? I'm killing to try out some theocracies.
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Sep 15, 2013 01:52
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StashAugustine posted:So I just won a crusade for Italy from the Fraticelli Genoese. All the trade posts (everywhere) seem to have been wiped out. Is there anything I should with merchant republics as an Emperor? They hate being your vassal but give you tons of money. Cut them loose first if you're having trouble controlling the realm, since you'll still make your trade post cut.
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Sep 15, 2013 02:39
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 I think I found the most alternativist piece of history ever in this game. A hunchback ethiopian-pomeranian reformed norse queen who used her military genius to sieze the throne and is now fighting to close a portal to hell that opened in her back garden. I really want her to do well but the Scandinavians cut Pomerania down to three provinces before the last Pomeranian king converted and they seem determined to take every province north of the Danube.
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Sep 15, 2013 02:45
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 The Byzantines must have waged a subjugation war for some reason, but... why?
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Sep 15, 2013 03:37
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Reveilled posted:
I can only picture the Bosch paintings that could be made of this queen's life. 
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Sep 15, 2013 03:56
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Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:Is CK2+ Cont. still causing crusades/jihad's not to be called? I saw a crusade for Jerusalem around 1100 in my last game. For what it's worth it was from the 1000 start date, but they definitely are there.
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Sep 15, 2013 04:09
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 So something pretty cool's happened in my game. I'm playing as "Lennsland", the titular kingdom created by my also ruler-created Lennart Lennling (I'm super cool and not  at all, guys, I swear). Over about ~100 years I've conquered my way from Cornwall to East Anglia and made myself a nice little kingdom (to make sure that things do not stay nice, however, I've created dynasties for each of his children, leaving the kingdom kind of unstable). Entirely independent of me, the AI Norse Pagans have conquered Scotland, middle/northern England, and Frisia of all places. They've formed their own kingdoms, titular (Jorvik) or otherwise (Skotland-Frisia).Oh. And one king in the Scandinavia went loving bananas. Do you see that cyan eyesore? That's the freaking Triple-Kingdom of Scania, Denmark, and Sweden forged by the boozy hands of Queen Asa the Drunkard. She began as the Queen of Scania (then just a minor grossly floruescent patch of color) then something triggered in the AI's code because she conquered most of southern Sweden, married the Jarl of Uppland, then made a buttload of titles—the money from all of this I assume came from raiding or something. I would have figured the AI would have made Denmark or Sweden its primary title, but nope! Scania is it's primary in all its jarring glory. But not only did Queen Asa conquer a whole bunch of frostbitten norsemen, she reformed the norse religion. This has thrown Britain into complete chaos. Lennsland is ruled by an Astrau (one of the reformed norse names (the most being Odinism) king, but half of the most important dukes are Old Norse; Jorvik's in pretty much the same situation; Skotland is ruled by the Old Norse descendant of Ivar the Boneless, Queen Aslaug the Black, Frisia, however, is ruled by Aslaug's Astrau sister, Duchess Skuld of Holland.So yeah, crazy poo poo's happening. I haven't even been paying attention to the Karlings, but it looks like they're up to their usual incestuous death-spiral.
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Sep 15, 2013 04:45
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So if I request an invasion from the pope, and my ruler dies (most likely of old age) during the invasion, what happens? I'm playing an Ua Briain game and I finally united Ireland. Murchad is 63 right now and I've got a few options for what to do with his remaining years, the two main ones being take 10,000 men to the Levant crusading (Fatamids currently can only raise 17k troops and are fighting an invasion against the Seljuks) or request an invasion of Scotland (who can muster only about half the troops I can). I suspect invading Scotland would be the more profitable thing to do, but my Murchad is a walking pile of virtues so I might just do the "in character" thing and go Crusading. It'd be good to get my Grandson the Crusader trait anyways. And who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and I'll be able to put a Ua Briain on the throne of Jerusalem (for a decade or two before the Fatamids and/or Seljuks crush him). Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Sep 15, 2013 |
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Sep 15, 2013 05:56
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Galaga Galaxian posted:So if I request an invasion from the pope, and my ruler dies (most likely of old age) during the invasion, what happens? The invasion immediately ends and you have to request another from the Pope with your new ruler. If their ruler dies, the invasion immediately ends but I think you can start another one immediately. Because you pressed the claim in war, though, your kids will at least inherit it, which is... something, I guess
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Sep 15, 2013 06:06
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That is what I figured. Well, I have no desire to see Murchad croak half-way through stomping Scotland, so it sounds like he's gonna take a trip to the levant. Scotland can be Brian or Sean's problem.
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Sep 15, 2013 06:16
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Say I wanted to make it possible to change more than one crown law per ruler, what file would I have to edit?
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Sep 15, 2013 11:08
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Cocksmith posted:Say I wanted to make it possible to change more than one crown law per ruler, what file would I have to edit? I don't think that you can mod the default one, but you could just add a regular decision that increased centralization. It would show up where feasts and that kind of thing are.
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Sep 15, 2013 15:38
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I think you can just open the console and use "allow_laws" to change whatever. I just started a new game in Ireland during the Old Gods start and its, uh, different than the original start. It's been touch and go a few times so I hadn't been paying attention to the rest of the map. I happened to glance East maybe 30 years into the game and Hungary has taken all of the Byzantine Empire except Croatia (where the new capital is) and a few provinces in the eastern edge. Now they're expanding east and north. Mega Hungary don't gently caress around.
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Sep 15, 2013 15:41
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I'm trying to reform Norse Paganism and I'm really not sure how to raise moral authority enough. Sweden and I (Norway) are both Old Norse (the only Old Norse remaining), and we control the entirety of Scandinavia. Nobody is loving with us, so we're basically free to do whatever. The problem is that Sweden controls 2 holy sites and I control 1, and moral authority is at 31. I just don't see how, frankly, to raise it any higher. Nobody declares holy wars on either of us (last time it happened it ended very badly for them ), and neither of us can prepare invasions anymore. Help?
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Sep 15, 2013 15:43
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:I'm trying to reform Norse Paganism and I'm really not sure how to raise moral authority enough. Sweden and I (Norway) are both Old Norse (the only Old Norse remaining), and we control the entirety of Scandinavia. Nobody is loving with us, so we're basically free to do whatever. The problem is that Sweden controls 2 holy sites and I control 1, and moral authority is at 31. I just don't see how, frankly, to raise it any higher. Nobody declares holy wars on either of us (last time it happened it ended very badly for them You've just gotta try and inch towards the final two holy sites. Holding all five will have you over 50% for sure. It's not even a question of moral authority really, because getting the extra two will give you an extra 10% for each -- it's that you need to have 3 within the same realm. So you've either gotta subjugate Sweden and spam county conquests for that 1% MA each time, or go get the other two yourself. No other options, to be honest.
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Sep 15, 2013 15:47
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Allyn posted:You've just gotta try and inch towards the final two holy sites. Holding all five will have you over 50% for sure. It's not even a question of moral authority really, because getting the extra two will give you an extra 10% for each -- it's that you need to have 3 within the same realm. So you've either gotta subjugate Sweden and spam county conquests for that 1% MA each time, or go get the other two yourself. No other options, to be honest. You can actually reform with all five holy sites in your realm regardless of your moral authority. One other alternative is to build temples, which boost your moral authority. Rather expensive though.
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Sep 15, 2013 15:59
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Allyn posted:You've just gotta try and inch towards the final two holy sites. Holding all five will have you over 50% for sure. It's not even a question of moral authority really, because getting the extra two will give you an extra 10% for each -- it's that you need to have 3 within the same realm. So you've either gotta subjugate Sweden and spam county conquests for that 1% MA each time, or go get the other two yourself. No other options, to be honest.  )
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Sep 15, 2013 16:11
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Meh. Guess I'll just slowly work for it, since both of the continental Europe sites are under the control of Bavaria. I'm currently adjusting to a new ruler with horrendous stats (How? I gave him the best tutor I had and his diplomacy is 0!  ? Does he have any brothers?
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Sep 15, 2013 16:12
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Sep 15, 2013 16:18
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Its fun to ride lovely rulers out. Just think "Is this a lovely thing to do?" and if the answer is yes, then do it. Spices up the game.
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Sep 15, 2013 16:20
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Burning churches raises your moral authority as well. Send out the raiders on a church burning european tour.Tom Smykowski posted:Its fun to ride lovely rulers out. Just think "Is this a lovely thing to do?" and if the answer is yes, then do it. Spices up the game. Yeah some of my most successful and fun to play as rulers have had terrible stats. Having a beautiful strong genius ruler is overrated.
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Sep 15, 2013 16:23
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Tom Smykowski posted:Its fun to ride lovely rulers out. Just think "Is this a lovely thing to do?" and if the answer is yes, then do it. Spices up the game. My main problem is if I didn't name a ruler his rear end will never sit on the throne. If I had a mod to name every kid in my dynasty then things wouldn't get so violent.
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marktheando posted:Burning churches raises your moral authority as well. Send out the raiders on a church burning european tour. If you reform the religion you still get human sacrifice, right? My biggest problem with bad rulers is that the demesne limit shrinks, so I have to go distribute a few provinces so I'm not double the cap. My old King had a demesne limit of 7 (and held 9 provinces, since the penalty is worth the extra 2 provinces), and now I have a demesne limit of 5 (with 10 provinces)...I try and keep a large set of provinces so that I have the personal military forces to blow up rebelling vassals. And when you then have a good heir that can support that many provinces, it's annoying to have to try and get extra provinces back. Ghost of Reagan Past fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Sep 15, 2013 |
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Sep 15, 2013 16:36
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