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DrDork posted:It's a last-gen laptop with mediocre build and component quality. It's a fair price for what you get (and don't get). Here's a review of basically the same laptop (minor part name fuckery because BestBuy manages to get model numbers exclusive to their stores): http://www.cnet.com/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-z400-touch/4505-3121_7-35561178.html Thanks a bunch! I just really like how good the CPU is for $530. Also, the cheapest T430 I've found is $730. I've yet to decide though.
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Is it weird that even though I have a MacBook Air, I still want one of the HP Chromebooks? The orange one looks amazing. Do any of you own a Chromebook and a MacBook, but find yourself using the Chromebook more?
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 23:30 |
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Frijolero posted:Thanks a bunch!
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 23:34 |
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CPU speed, like most paper-specs on laptops, has been absolutely meaningless for years. Every piece of poo poo Best Buy $500 special has an i5 something or other a thousand times beyond what any application cares about, the deciding factor for performance is overwhelmingly I/O bottlenecked. Don't buy laptops on specs, buy them on ergonomics and build quality.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 00:42 |
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Frijolero posted:I am missing something with this Lenovo? For $100 more you can get a T430 from the same company with a Real Keyboard and a magnesium frame, will last you half a decade. As mentioned above, even an i3 is ludicrously fast, your main bottleneck these days is feeding the CPU, that means 4GB+ ram and a SSD.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 01:57 |
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Thanks for all the advice peeps. I'm set on the T430. I am a little upset that HDMI and Webcam are not standard but it's a great computer for $666. vv Yeah, I went with the webcam and the 1600x900 options. vv Frijolero fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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Frijolero posted:Thanks for all the advice peeps. I'm set on the T430. I am a little upset that HDMI and Webcam are not standard but it's a great computer for $666. The webcam is like a $20 option and you can get a mini-DP to HDMI adapter for less than $10 online.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 03:04 |
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Srebrenica Surprise posted:CPU speed, like most paper-specs on laptops, has been absolutely meaningless for years. Every piece of poo poo Best Buy $500 special has an i5 something or other a thousand times beyond what any application cares about, the deciding factor for performance is overwhelmingly I/O bottlenecked. Don't buy laptops on specs, buy them on ergonomics and build quality. There is a surprising amount if low end stuff with the AMD E1 processors around which basically belong in netbooks - I'd say you still need to be careful with them. With Intel its not such an issue as even the cheaper Pentiums are still fast enough.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 03:15 |
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Srebrenica Surprise posted:CPU speed, like most paper-specs on laptops, has been absolutely meaningless for years. Every piece of poo poo Best Buy $500 special has an i5 something or other a thousand times beyond what any application cares about, the deciding factor for performance is overwhelmingly I/O bottlenecked. Don't buy laptops on specs, buy them on ergonomics and build quality. Which is absolutely great since every company's mantra of "100mHz = $50 - $100" is frightful. Thanks to this thread, I am now saving up for a t430. It'll take me a while, but maybe they will do a Haswell refresh by the time I get there
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 03:19 |
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Frijolero posted:Thanks for all the advice peeps. I'm set on the T430. I am a little upset that HDMI and Webcam are not standard There's an excellent adapter in the OP for like, $3 shipped
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 04:02 |
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P.N.T.M. posted:Which is absolutely great since every company's mantra of "100mHz = $50 - $100" is frightful.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 05:19 |
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Well I think I just bought an Acer S3 with Sandy Bridge i3 at $120, but time will tell. Maybe I can replace this shithouse Asus where the DVD drive and headphone jack both failed in a year.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 16:25 |
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Regular sized laptops with regular mobile CPU's are coming, right? About the only ones that I can find so far are 'ultra books' and I just want a regular 15" laptop with Haswell. Why are those not out yet?
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tijag posted:Regular sized laptops with regular mobile CPU's are coming, right? About the only ones that I can find so far are 'ultra books' and I just want a regular 15" laptop with Haswell. Why are those not out yet?
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 17:39 |
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It doesn't look like Intel is going to release any "normal" version of the Core i5 for Haswell. They're all Ultra Low Voltage. Only their Pentiums, Celerons, and Core i7 processor lines will have normal mobile versions. The processors with Iris integrated graphics operate at a TDP and frequency closer to Ivy Bridge's -M Core i5 processors. It looks like Intel is phasing out higher performance, higher power consumption processors outside their Core i7 line.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 17:41 |
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Well they've got 27W i5s, I think it's mostly a branding change it that they're saying everything they make is Ultra Lower Power now.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 18:17 |
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So I'm looking to buy in the next month or so, but I'm way out of the loop on the best sites to do research. What sites are good at reviewing all the latest and greatest? Bonus points for good comparison-shopping features.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 19:26 |
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Intel owns the name Ultrabook, they are in year three of their campaign. If you need and under powered laptop with 4 hours or less of battery life and worse graphics, you can always buy an AMD. Outside of best buy can you even buy an AMD laptop anymore? Intel offers a quad core i7 if you need a true mobile workstation. A modern i5 is just stupid fast for anything else these days. My i5-3320 laptop benchmarks faster than my i5-750 desktop. Hadlock fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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DrDork posted:Haswell refresh should drop in November. The hardware options actually look reasonably good (especially the T440p), and they're finally taking the step into 1080p (though doubtless as a pricey option). Downside is you lose the physical mouse buttons (both for the trackpad and the clitmouse) so if you're the type who REALLY LOVES them, you may be disappointed. They also will probably not be $650 when they first drop. When this happens, is it impossible to buy the older models, or do they typically keep them around as well?
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 20:47 |
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Lenovo will probably dump old new stock in places like Woot, Overstock.com and keep a hawkish outlook on slickdeals Lenovo sold Sandy Bridge along side Ivy bridge until sometime this spring, especially on their low end i3 models, but sometimes as the default i5. That may or may not be the case with Ivy/Haswell, as they just shipped T430's with sandybridge in them due to the same case type. Haswell models are much more thin to meet Intel's ultrabook requirements.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 00:10 |
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Are these 'ultrabooks' really capable of low end gaming? Say casual WoW just because I'm bored or something? I want an rMBP, but $2200 for a laptop is off putting. I'm blow away by how many MBP's and rMBP's I see day to day in the Los Angeles area. Does anyone besides apple make a 15" IPS screen laptop, preferably at 1920x1080, with decent battery life and good build quality, using Haswell?
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 00:18 |
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tijag posted:Are these 'ultrabooks' really capable of low end gaming? Say casual WoW just because I'm bored or something? you can get a MBA for about a grand? I bet a lot of those rMBP were bought on credit cards HD4000 will juuuust barely load and play BF3 @ 12-13fps, 4600 will do bf3 @ almost 20fps which is getting in to playable territory. Skyrim and Mass Effect 2 will play on med-low @ 30-40fps on a 1366x768 screen. If you want casual gaming on a 1080p screen it's doable but you may need to crank down the resolution (Read: not native) to get an acceptable framerate for more modern, mainstream games. The lowest end GPU that comes in haswell processors will happly play any indie game on steam that you throw at it.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 00:28 |
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tijag posted:Does anyone besides apple make a 15" IPS screen laptop, preferably at 1920x1080, with decent battery life and good build quality, using Haswell? If you're ok with a 14" display and dual-core Haswell, this Acer ticks a lot of boxes for $1300 : http://anandtech.com/show/7238/acer-v7482pg9884-review-everything-you-need
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 00:33 |
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tijag posted:Are these 'ultrabooks' really capable of low end gaming? Say casual WoW just because I'm bored or something? T530 would hit all your requirements except for the IPS screen. However, the 1080 screen option has a very good 95% gamut TN screen that is almost as good.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 01:03 |
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I posted earlier about purchasing a laptop from Lenovo - I'm still having trouble getting an account set up with the B&N link. I've tried three times now, using different e-mail addresses to no effect. Anyone else had similar problems?
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 01:43 |
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Skooms posted:I posted earlier about purchasing a laptop from Lenovo - I'm still having trouble getting an account set up with the B&N link. I've tried three times now, using different e-mail addresses to no effect. Anyone else had similar problems? I never got my e-mail to activate my account, but resetting my password after I created my account worked and let me log in.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 01:45 |
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Skooms posted:I posted earlier about purchasing a laptop from Lenovo - I'm still having trouble getting an account set up with the B&N link. I've tried three times now, using different e-mail addresses to no effect. Anyone else had similar problems? I don't know if it's similar to what you're seeing but I do recall running into an issue. After creating an account, I never got my activation email. So I tried creating another one and it said my email was already in use. So I just requested a password reset and got the email. I went through the reset process and the account worked fine. Ordered a T530 on 9/11 and UPS says it's shipped and supposed to arrive(CA, US) on friday the 20th. I think I'm supposed to consider myself lucky based on all the month long waiting stories I've read on their forums.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 01:54 |
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Mr.Radar posted:I never got my e-mail to activate my account, but resetting my password after I created my account worked and let me log in. That did the trick. Any input on accidental damage warranties?
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E30User posted:I don't know if it's similar to what you're seeing but I do recall running into an issue. After creating an account, I never got my activation email. So I tried creating another one and it said my email was already in use. So I just requested a password reset and got the email. I went through the reset process and the account worked fine. Ordered a T530 on 9/11 and UPS says it's shipped and supposed to arrive(CA, US) on friday the 20th. I think I'm supposed to consider myself lucky based on all the month long waiting stories I've read on their forums. Speaking of which, today I got an e-mail from Lenovo telling me that my shipment's been delayed but that I should expect it within 30 days from this notice (I ordered 12 days ago). Thanks a million, Lenovo.
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:Speaking of which, today I got an e-mail from Lenovo telling me that my shipment's been delayed but that I should expect it within 30 days from this notice (I ordered 12 days ago). Yeah, I got that email too. Then my y410p shipped the next day and should arrive Thursday. I think that email automatically fires out if they miss their original ship date estimate. What's really amusing is Lenovo sent me a survey asking about my buying experience yesterday. I would think they would at LEAST wait until I got the thing.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 02:32 |
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bull3964 posted:Yeah, I got that email too. That's somewhat reassuring. Thanks!
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 03:07 |
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What is the cheapest Haswell available right now? Bonus points if it's rugged and has a good screen/resolution. Alternatively, does Haswell really matter if battery life isn't all that important? (You might remember I recently asked about convertible tablet/laptops but I've changed my mind.)
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 03:31 |
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internet inc posted:Alternatively, does Haswell really matter if battery life isn't all that important?
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 03:53 |
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Skooms posted:That did the trick. Any input on accidental damage warranties? Saved my rear end when I was swapping out the HD and the SSD and broke something. If you use your computer a lot and aren't super careful with it, sure, go for it. I would, at any rate.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 04:02 |
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I need a new work laptop, it has to run a couple of Windows only programs (like UPS Worldship) and also be able to handle some light Photoshop work. The T430 seems like a good choice, although it seems too heavy to haul to and from work everyday on my 45min public transit commute. Is the Macbook Air able to run native Windows programs that require Windows driver enabled hardware (Zebra label printer) via BootCamp? Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 04:46 |
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Skooms posted:That did the trick. Any input on accidental damage warranties? Either way, don't bother with the battery warranty, as it's usually the same price (or even more!) than just buying a second battery from Amazon and stashing it away for when you need a replacement.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 04:55 |
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tijag posted:Are these 'ultrabooks' really capable of low end gaming? Say casual WoW just because I'm bored or something? If you can wait until November, the T540 should be able to hit all your requirements at a good bit under $2200. In the meantime, there aren't a whole lot of shipping Haswell 15" laptops that aren't some crazy $2000 gaming setup (thanks to Apple hoovering up all the mid-level i5 chips to put into their own laptops). But by this holiday season you should have a healthy number of options for what you seek.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 05:04 |
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Has anyone used a T430 with the dedicated graphics card option? By any chance have you played bioshock infinite? It's one of the few games I really want to be able to play that's new, and as fun as the y410p looks if I could play it with moderate playability on a t430, the ease of upgrade and tremendous battery life would make a difference to me. Likewise has anyone used a samsung series 5 ultratouch? It looks very up my alley but I'd like to hear if anyone likes it enough. Also, is anyone else extremely turned off by these terrible number pad keyboards that are offset? I don't know how you would type with the thing on your lap without potentially tipping it over.
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# ? Sep 18, 2013 06:29 |
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mugrim posted:Also, is anyone else extremely turned off by these terrible number pad keyboards that are offset? I don't know how you would type with the thing on your lap without potentially tipping it over. I have tried them out on borrowed laptops before and agree that they are extremely terrible.
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mugrim posted:Has anyone used a T430 with the dedicated graphics card option? By any chance have you played bioshock infinite? It's one of the few games I really want to be able to play that's new, and as fun as the y410p looks if I could play it with moderate playability on a t430, the ease of upgrade and tremendous battery life would make a difference to me. mugrim posted:Also, is anyone else extremely turned off by these terrible number pad keyboards that are offset?
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