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Waiting patiently to hear Facebook insanity now that the DC Navy Yard shooters have been ID'ed as middle aged white men.
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Me in Reverse posted:Waiting patiently to hear Facebook insanity now that the DC Navy Yard shooters have been ID'ed as middle aged white men. Let me save you the trouble: it's a false flag attack perpetrated by Obongo to justify taking away ARE GUNS by using
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Sep 16, 2013 18:11
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Neptr posted:Oh yeah, the stigma of child molestation and the abuse of pedophiles in prison isn't enough, killing them is what will really send the message. There are no murders in Texas, after all. http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates and http://www.nytimes.com/2000/09/22/us/absence-executions-special-report-states-with-no-death-penalty-share-lower.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm It's comparing homicides rates and capital punishment, but it shows pretty clearly that the presence of the death penalty does not reduce the murder rate at all. I'd be willing to bet it wouldn't affect the child abuse rates either.
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Me in Reverse posted:Waiting patiently to hear Facebook insanity now that the DC Navy Yard shooters have been ID'ed as middle aged white men.
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Sep 16, 2013 20:02
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I wonder who sits around and says, "Hey, if I get caught I can't be executed, I guess I'll go ahead and [do this horrible crime]!" I think people's motivations are probably just a smidge different.
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Sep 16, 2013 20:07
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Support for the death penalty for these people isn't so much out of a desire to see murder rates go down, but to see "true justice served" and to sound like old school hardasses while doing it by advocating for things like hangings. All the while, us pussy liberal eggheads are wasting our time by brainstorming solutions to reduce both the crime rate and the prison population that aren't as satisfying.
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Sep 16, 2013 21:52
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Saw this in a comment on a Fox News article. Found it funny since it's apparently been floating around, in a bunch of different forms, since the late 50squote:Communist Agenda for the
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Sep 17, 2013 01:33
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Only half a step away from turning the country communist, eh? Nice work everyone!
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Sep 17, 2013 01:39
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nyquil hangover posted:
Because the guy is from Texas.
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Sep 17, 2013 01:50
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Call Me Charlie posted:Saw this in a comment on a Fox News article. Found it funny since it's apparently been floating around, in a bunch of different forms, since the late 50s Half that list was done, directly or indirectly, by Conservatives.
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Sep 17, 2013 02:17
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nyquil hangover posted:
I thought the only things that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. At a Navy Yard, I figured there would be some good guys with guns but apparently not.
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Sep 17, 2013 02:41
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Call Me Charlie posted:whole lotta bullshit This is pretty much the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, but with commies instead of Jews. I've looked through it myself and I'd swear it's pretty much the origin of every modern world-spanning conspiracy theory. Either that or world-spanning conspiracies are so vague that they all hit the same points about religion, the media, and whatnot. Probably a little A and a little B. Any way have some more commie bogeymen: 
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Sep 17, 2013 02:42
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"DESTROY AMERICA WITH THIS ONE EASY TIP: NEGRO PRESIDENT" - Adolf Hitler (abridged)
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Sep 17, 2013 02:58
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Vladimir Lenin? Wasn't he the guy who said "He who does not work, neither shall he eat?"
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Sep 17, 2013 03:03
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Stalin, I believe. Vladamir Lenin is still the favorite communist mouthpiece for false quotes, though.
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Emden posted:This is pretty much the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, but with commies instead of Jews. I've looked through it myself and I'd swear it's pretty much the origin of every modern world-spanning conspiracy theory. Either that or world-spanning conspiracies are so vague that they all hit the same points about religion, the media, and whatnot. Probably a little A and a little B. Im no expert on Lenin beyond reading a few books about the February and October revolutions but I think that quote is made up.
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Sep 17, 2013 03:10
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Emden posted:This is pretty much the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, but with commies instead of Jews. I've looked through it myself and I'd swear it's pretty much the origin of every modern world-spanning conspiracy theory. Either that or world-spanning conspiracies are so vague that they all hit the same points about religion, the media, and whatnot. Probably a little A and a little B. Gotta love the "abridged" bit. You can claim anyone said anything as long as you claim it's abridged! "gently caress minorities and the poor." - Mitt Romney (abridged)
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Sep 17, 2013 03:12
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Blarghalt posted:Stalin, I believe. Vladamir Lenin is still the favorite communist mouthpiece for false quotes, though. Nope, Lenin. It's not an absolute though, it's meant more in the sense of "He who (can work but) does not work, shall not eat", and it more has to do with the idea that owning capital and using it to pay others to work is not work in and of itself.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Nope, Lenin. It's not an absolute though, it's meant more in the sense of "He who (can work but) does not work, shall not eat", and it more has to do with the idea that owning capital and using it to pay others to work is not work in and of itself. It's a very useful quote for talking about food stamps. Hee hee I tricked you into agreeing with Lenin! Etc.
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Call Me Charlie posted:Saw this in a comment on a Fox News article. Found it funny since it's apparently been floating around, in a bunch of different forms, since the late 50s Oh look its the exact opposite of reality huh thats weird
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Sep 17, 2013 03:43
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How do Putin's newfound groupies reconcile his butt-kicking of Obama with the fact that he literally came from Communist Russia?
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gradenko_2000 posted:How do Putin's newfound groupies reconcile his butt-kicking of Obama with the fact that he literally came from Communist Russia? And the head of the Soviet Secret Police.
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gradenko_2000 posted:How do Putin's newfound groupies reconcile his butt-kicking of Obama with the fact that he literally came from Communist Russia? Putin isn't a communist anymore. Obama hasn't stopped being black.
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CCKeane posted:Vladimir Lenin? Wasn't he the guy who said "He who does not work, neither shall he eat?" "I am the walrus"
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Ceiling fan posted:Putin isn't a communist anymore. Obama hasn't stopped being black. Putin is one of "the good ones."
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Emden posted:This is pretty much the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, but with commies instead of Jews. I've looked through it myself and I'd swear it's pretty much the origin of every modern world-spanning conspiracy theory. Either that or world-spanning conspiracies are so vague that they all hit the same points about religion, the media, and whatnot. Probably a little A and a little B. Oh no! Not an interest in sex! No teenagers would have any interest in sex without communist influence! It's amazing that there are people who actually think like this.
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Sep 17, 2013 04:48
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I don't...whats the point of those two? The others I get, the idea of sex becoming acceptable is scary as hell to fundies but how is abstract art the loving devil?
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RagnarokAngel posted:I don't...whats the point of those two? The others I get, the idea of sex becoming acceptable is scary as hell to fundies but how is abstract art the loving devil? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_art 
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A friend of mine in his 50s just posted this entitlement hit piece against millenials: http://www.waitbutwhy.com/2013/09/why-generation-y-yuppies-are-unhappy.html?m=1 Long story short: we aren't special and we're entitled pricks who need to man up, or something.
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RagnarokAngel posted:I don't...whats the point of those two? The others I get, the idea of sex becoming acceptable is scary as hell to fundies but how is abstract art the loving devil? Because they're assholes who would have supported Hitler had they been given a chance? e:Beaten. e2:They don't even understand the word yuppie. Big Hubris fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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ProperGanderPusher posted:Support for the death penalty for these people isn't so much out of a desire to see murder rates go down, but to see "true justice served" and to sound like old school hardasses while doing it by advocating for things like hangings. All the while, us pussy liberal eggheads are wasting our time by brainstorming solutions to reduce both the crime rate and the prison population that aren't as satisfying. Yes, lest we forget, conservatives also frequently work hard to dismantle Child Protective Services, and many of them are happy to claim that child abuse is usually a hoax to allow the government to take away your kids if you step out of line.
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seiferguy posted:A friend of mine in his 50s just posted this entitlement hit piece against millenials:
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cheerfullydrab posted:Did you show him that Matt Bors comic which does a good job of specifically refuting all this? Could I get a link to this it would be nice to have when I run into this sentiment as well.
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KomradeX posted:Could I get a link to this it would be nice to have when I run into this sentiment as well. http://www.mattbors.com/blog/2013/07/09/can-we-stop-worrying-about-millennials-yet/ Edit: Apparently that's just the blog that has the link to the comic. Here's the comic in it's natural habitat. http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/09/opinion/bors-millenial-comic-strip/index.html?hpt=hp_c3 E-Tank fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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Sep 17, 2013 09:09
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See, I believe that boomers were really and truly raised in a time where you could pay for college by working a summer job. Where you could lose your job and walk across the street and be handed 40 hours a week with retirement benefits and a wage that could pay for a split-level house, two cars, two kids, and a golden retriever. Here's a really specific question. My parents, who are 55 and 59 and quite intellectual, have made the argument to me on multiple occasions that the hard economic times of the early 80's, which they experienced in their 20's, were just as bad as what has been going on since 2008/9. I disagree. Are there any good resources to help refute their argument?
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Sep 17, 2013 09:53
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cheerfullydrab posted:See, I believe that boomers were really and truly raised in a time where you could pay for college by working a summer job. Where you could lose your job and walk across the street and be handed 40 hours a week with retirement benefits and a wage that could pay for a split-level house, two cars, two kids, and a golden retriever. The comic I just linked?
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I'm the one who brought up that comic, and while I do think it does a good job of refuting very general millenial-bashing, I don't think it discredits this one argument with facts and statistics.
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cheerfullydrab posted:See, I believe that boomers were really and truly raised in a time where you could pay for college by working a summer job. Where you could lose your job and walk across the street and be handed 40 hours a week with retirement benefits and a wage that could pay for a split-level house, two cars, two kids, and a golden retriever. Well, you can point out that wages were far more fair and tracking with inflation in the early 80s. Once trickle-down and the pillaging of the middle class starts, wages for everyone (but the C-level folks) remain flat for the next 20 years, while productivity expectations spike and benefits plummet. A full-time worker in 1980 likely had health insurance, possibly a pension, a reasonable expectation of job security, and if you were in a manual labor position you probably had a union backing you up. Today? If you're a full time worker you might not even get overtime anymore (many positions switched to "salary" which just means you can be forced to work a 60 hour week for 40 hours pay), you're expected to do more, your benefits package has shrunk--no one has pensions anymore, and 401(k)s with matching funds aren't quite the same. Thanks to private insurance companies and a broken system, costs have risen 300% over the last decade (while their profits have gone up a similar amount. Totally unrelated, I'm sure). The PPACA should help a bit with that, but its still expensive if you have a family. As for job security, the proliferation of right-to-fire laws means that if you don't pull your 60-hour week, or even just annoy the boss on the wrong day, your rear end is out the door and you'll have a 6-12 month hunt for a new job. If you're lucky. Oh, and if you work a service/blue collar job? Those unions are all but gone now. It's you vs management, and management has a lot more "you"'s to replace you with. To summarize, workers today have to do more and work longer hours for comparatively less pay. Jobs are also more tenuous in security and fewer in benefits. Sure, you might make more than the 1980 worker, but in terms of actual buying power you're left in the dust, and in terms of absolute happiness its probably not even a contest. OAquinas fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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Here, have a palette cleanser! (Yeah, he really is that oblivious, but he's a good guy.)
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