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Well I've gotten a bit further into Umineko past where this goat dude appears out of nowhere and has a sword/magic blade fight with Kanon. Yeah, I'm not sure what exactly was going on there but it was awesome anyway even if it made no sense how Kanon magically teleported behind the guy. It almost makes me want to watch that scene in the anime just because it would be so much better animated.
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Green Tea Erotica posted:Awesome, thanks for the info. I tried not to poke around too much in fear of spoilers, so everyone's help is greatly appreciated. I'm in the minority but I rather enjoyed the side routes since it felt like I was reading something interesting about them instead of the identical routes from the main lines. Like was mentioned, if you are enjoying yourself go for it. There no crazy rear end pay off but it's cool to see their 'real' personalities and conflicts reflected in the later stories.
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Sep 17, 2013 06:50
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I think the normal route and Marimo route are necessary for later.
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Sep 17, 2013 08:48
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planetarial posted:Well I've gotten a bit further into Umineko Do yourself a favor and don't see the anime. In general it's best to assume DEEN doesn't succeed in anything when it comes to Umineko (though to be perfectly honest I forget how they animated that specific scene). Anyway, EP2 is pretty cool. Kanon (early EP2 spoilers) pulling a sword from nowhere is basically when all hell starts going loose. Still, don't be discouraged by all the magic flying everywhere; there's still a mystery to solve after all.
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Sep 17, 2013 15:15
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Mordaedil posted:I think the normal route and Marimo route are necessary for later. Oh, poo poo yeah. Marimo path best path.
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Sep 17, 2013 15:28
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Classy Hydra posted:Do yourself a favor and don't see the anime. In general it's best to assume DEEN doesn't succeed in anything when it comes to Umineko (though to be perfectly honest I forget how they animated that specific scene). I would kill for a good, story-faithful Umineko anime that covers all eight episodes, but what DEEN gave us is a far cry from that.
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Sep 17, 2013 15:59
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There's just too many small details and talking heads to fit into 20min episodes.
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Sep 17, 2013 17:44
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ProfessorProf posted:I would kill for a good, story-faithful Umineko anime that covers all eight episodes, but what DEEN gave us is a far cry from that. It'd need to be like, 100 episodes. 50 for Umineko, and 50 for Chiru. That's the only way that I could see them faithfully and properly adapting the series. Of course, the biggest sin DEEN committed was wasting the VNs soundtrack. Umineko has arguably the single greatest soundtrack of any Visual Novel, and yet DEEN just wasted it.
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Sep 17, 2013 18:02
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So I just started Sharin no Kuni. I may have missed the thread actually talking about the game, but I'm a little bit in and kind of confused about the protagonist. He passingly mentioned having classes to rewrite his personality and the like but is there a reason he acts the way he does? Is it addressed, or just an attempt to break him away from the usual protagonist mold?
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Sinner Sandwich posted:So I just started Sharin no Kuni. I may have missed the thread actually talking about the game, but I'm a little bit in and kind of confused about the protagonist. He passingly mentioned having classes to rewrite his personality and the like but is there a reason he acts the way he does? Is it addressed, or just an attempt to break him away from the usual protagonist mold? Yes, there is Reasons™.
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Sep 17, 2013 18:45
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Sinner Sandwich posted:So I just started Sharin no Kuni. I may have missed the thread actually talking about the game, but I'm a little bit in and kind of confused about the protagonist. He passingly mentioned having classes to rewrite his personality and the like but is there a reason he acts the way he does? Is it addressed, or just an attempt to break him away from the usual protagonist mold? You will have to be more specific about 'acts the way he does'.
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Sep 17, 2013 18:46
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Sinner Sandwich posted:So I just started Sharin no Kuni. I may have missed the thread actually talking about the game, but I'm a little bit in and kind of confused about the protagonist. He passingly mentioned having classes to rewrite his personality and the like but is there a reason he acts the way he does? Is it addressed, or just an attempt to break him away from the usual protagonist mold? I don't know how far in you are but I think this is only really spoilery for the first flashback at the end of the prologue chapter. Kenichi's basically been raised by a hippie, his half-sister (who molested him), and Houzuki. The story goes into some depth about it, but all his parental figures have been weirdos or assholes. He's also been through some rough poo poo that separated him from his best friends and now he has to pretend he's a different person now that he's back around them.
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Sep 17, 2013 19:08
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Dr Pepper posted:Of course, the biggest sin DEEN committed was wasting the VNs soundtrack. Umineko has arguably the single greatest soundtrack of any Visual Novel, and yet DEEN just wasted it. Oh god, now you've reminded me. My first exposure to the anime was from a guy who'd never read the VN and was utterly baffled why people thought Umineko had a good soundtrack. Basically nothing DEEN could have done was worse than killing one of the series' main selling points like that. Though, now that I think about it, is it possible the problem was copyright? There's about a dozen different composers that worked on Umineko's soundtrack, so I guess it's conceivable it was a wonky situation trying to license them for an adaptation.
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Classy Hydra posted:Oh god, now you've reminded me. My first exposure to the anime was from a guy who'd never read the VN and was utterly baffled why people thought Umineko had a good soundtrack. It might have been, but it certainly wasn't the only thing killing their soundtrack. Did they ever even use the anime OST's version of DreamendDischarger in the show? While I preferred the original, it was still far better than the stuff I remember being played.
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Sep 17, 2013 22:23
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Classy Hydra posted:Do yourself a favor and don't see the anime. In general it's best to assume DEEN doesn't succeed in anything when it comes to Umineko (though to be perfectly honest I forget how they animated that specific scene). Yeah, I've been warned to stay clear of it. How did they botch the soundtrack specifically? Threw most/all of it out and replaced it with their own versions that sucked? Misused the tracks very inappropriately like having Goldenslaughter play once in an insignificant scene? I'm curious to know.
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Sep 18, 2013 00:52
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They would pick a few songs and repeat them constantly (suspicion was the one I remembered the most) regardless of whether they were appropriate or not while either using the more famous tracks only once (happiness of marionette) or not at all (dreamend discharger). As mentioned previously, the latter one there is especially silly because they bothered to remix it and put it on the anime OST.
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Sep 18, 2013 00:58
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Uminenko Chapter 3. I've completely given up trying to predict where this is going. So many twists in turns all in one chapter and I'm not even done yet. I honestly have no idea what the answer arcs will even look like.
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Sep 18, 2013 10:33
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I don't know guys Higurashi was pretty bad and should be ignored just as much.
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Sep 18, 2013 17:45
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Higurashi's anime is oooooooooookay, in the sense that the first two chapters in the VN have pacing problems and thus should have been cut down in the first place and the narrative/mystery isn't as reliant upon a huge number of pieces of information to function (it's basically impossible to debate the mystery in Umineko without falling back on VN-only info). So, in that sense it sort of works on its own. I know I watched the anime first and liked it well enough. But it's assuredly incredibly flawed, with mediocre music (although arguably better than the first four VN chapters) and horrendous animation. And while the first few chapters are sort of fine with being cut up, the cuts to the answer arcs were quite tragic and really hurt the story in several places. All told, I can't in good faith recommend the Higurashi anime because of these reasons. Conversely, I can't think of anything the Umineko anime brought to the table. I'm not even going to go with the voices, as it's not what I would call a great performance (a completely miscast Ami Koshimizu, Yui Horie dials up the annoying far too strongly, etc). It's arguably even worse in the PS3 games, where you have Yukari Tamura just sleepwalk through her lines. Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Sep 18, 2013 |
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Sep 18, 2013 18:01
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What about the Kara no Shoujo OVAs
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Speaking of Higurashi, it apparently got Greenlit on Steam.
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Al Baron posted:Speaking of Higurashi, it apparently got Greenlit on Steam. Wow, I wasn't expecting that to ever go through.
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Could this mean a price cut as well? Hard to expect MangaGamer to get away with its dumb prices for a VN on Steam. I'll almost certainly buy it again, though. Maybe this gets the community off its rear end to update the patches. Probably too much to ask for MG to port it over into the Nscripter engine at the same time, I suppose?
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Stall_19 posted:Uminenko Chapter 3. I've completely given up trying to predict where this is going. So many twists in turns all in one chapter and I'm not even done yet. I honestly have no idea what the answer arcs will even look like. Please keep telling us what you think.  Also Chiru is pretty much when the series gets weird.
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Nate RFB posted:Conversely, I can't think of anything the Umineko anime brought to the table. I'm not even going to go with the voices, as it's not what I would call a great performance (a completely miscast Ami Koshimizu, Yui Horie dials up the annoying far too strongly, etc). It's arguably even worse in the PS3 games, where you have Yukari Tamura just sleepwalk through her lines. But it's Paefekto!
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Bholder posted:But it's Paefekto!
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Nate RFB posted:Probably too much to ask for MG to port it over into the Nscripter engine at the same time, I suppose? I'd prefer MG to clean up their translation. But, yeah, neither is going to happen. Instead we'll get cards or achievements or hats or whatever.
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Stall_19 posted:Uminenko Chapter 3. I've completely given up trying to predict where this is going. So many twists in turns all in one chapter and I'm not even done yet. I honestly have no idea what the answer arcs will even look like. The secret is to stop trying to guess where it's going, and to start trying to guess where it's already gone. Because I guaranty that you have no idea what's actually happened so far. (Also yeah, keep us up to date on this. Umineko player reactions are the greatest )
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Introduced a friend to Muv Luv. His previous experience with VNs a couple porn games, told him about FSN and he did Fate route (which he liked), and tried UBW but stopped because didn't like the rehashing of explanations in the beginning (Nasu being  ) so he went for ML. In any case, I asked where he was in Alternative and we fired up a skype call and talked a bit about VNs and how pleasantly surprised, how he liked the Extra humor and the thematic transitions the series does, compared the way exposition is delivered with FSN, and I just kept hearing in afterwards. He's a bit confused when Code 991 happens but gets really into it when Marimo comes to cheer up Takeru.And then the magic happened. "No... no, no, no, no... no... no... NO! ...I need a drink, I'll be right back."
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Uminenko ch 3 random musings Dere-Beatrice is truly the most powerful being yet. I never expected this development when I started this chapter. Siesta Sister 45 strongly resembles Rimi from Chaos;Head, with the strawberry pink twin tailed hair and she even has the saluting thing. Battler's voice actor still cannot even come close to crying convincingly. It's quite hilarious. "The three of as are now the only adults" Do they not recognize Nanjo as an adult? Hey Battler, even though you're being extremely stubborn about this but considering your stance that magic doesn't exist, you probably shouldn't ask a witch to freaking summon a ghost for your defense. Stall_19 fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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rvm posted:I'd prefer MG to clean up their translation. But, yeah, neither is going to happen. Instead we'll get cards or achievements or hats or whatever. Actually "evospace from MG forums posted:Actually our current download version of Higurashi on our site doesn't use Soft-Denchi either~
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Heh, "outdated" translation. I'd imagine they'd use the updated sprites. Not sure they would get as many people to buy it with those ugly looking things.
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Stall_19 posted:I'd imagine they'd use the updated sprites. Not sure they would get as many people to buy it with those ugly looking things.
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Stall_19 posted:Uminenko ch 3 random musings Dere-Beatrice is truly the most powerful being yet. I never expected this development when I started this chapter. It's funny you'd mention Rimi with the Siestas, since 410 is voiced by Eri Kitamura who also voiced Rimi.
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Someone had an even worse idea than me: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3570962 Just thought I'd post it here, as it will at least be entertaining to see where it goes. Talk about a terrible choice for a first LP though, Christ.
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Mordaedil posted:Someone had an even worse idea than me: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3570962 I thought it'd be someone trying to LP Muv-Luv Extra but it's somehow worse. I can't see that thread lasting the rest of the day before getting gassed.
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Mordaedil posted:Someone had an even worse idea than me: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3570962 Bwhahahahaha. I'm dead, this is too precious.
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Why? Out of all the VNs out there, why something completely unremarkable and dumb? Actually, the past attempt at LPing Hatoful Boyfriend didn't even finish, somebody should do a complete LP of that.
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planetarial posted:Why? Out of all the VNs out there, why something completely unremarkable and dumb? If I had a way to either rip the script and/or a text hooker that won't duplicate lines as it copies them to a text file along with a rip of the bird images used as character sprites I would probably give it a shot. I tried organizing something before, but the text hooker I was using would copy the lines wrong or duplicate them and I couldn't get it to work out.
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Earlier in this thread someone mentioned a fsn lp, (unless I misread) but how did they do that if you can't lp "porn games" Actually nevermind if A Kiss for the Petals can be lped apparently any vn can, I can't wait for Maiden Rape Assault lps ADullMin fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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