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I just got to the first chapter of Tubular Bells, and I want to poll the thread: What's the most bizarre Stand? 'Cause right now, turning nails into balloon animals that are also actual animals is really wrinkling my brain.
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Sep 19, 2013 03:28
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I'm gonna go with the stand in part 6 that requires you to commit suicide to work.
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Sep 19, 2013 03:37
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HitTheTargets posted:I just got to the first chapter of Tubular Bells, and I want to poll the thread: What's the most bizarre Stand? 'Cause right now, turning nails into balloon animals that are also actual animals is really wrinkling my brain. Silver Chariot Requiem. That one made no sense at all.
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Sep 19, 2013 03:59
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HitTheTargets posted:I just got to the first chapter of Tubular Bells, and I want to poll the thread: What's the most bizarre Stand? 'Cause right now, turning nails into balloon animals that are also actual animals is really wrinkling my brain. My personal favorite is Heavy Weather. Rainbows that turn people into snails and/or snail-human hybrids via hypnotic suggestion that causes de-evolution. Clearly, this is the ultimate application of weather-control powers.
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Sep 19, 2013 04:13
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Begemot posted:My personal favorite is Heavy Weather. Rainbows that turn people into snails and/or snail-human hybrids via hypnotic suggestion that causes de-evolution. Clearly, this is the ultimate application of weather-control powers. They weren't actually turning into snails, they just thought they were. They would end up dying somehow anyway though.
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Sep 19, 2013 04:16
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HitTheTargets posted:I just got to the first chapter of Tubular Bells, and I want to poll the thread: What's the most bizarre Stand? 'Cause right now, turning nails into balloon animals that are also actual animals is really wrinkling my brain. Hmm, that's tough. Every Part with Stands has some sufficiently weird ones. Part 3: Bast (if you touch this electrical outlet I can put on anything, you become super magnetized) Part 4: Boy II Man (If I beat you at rock, paper, scissors, I can steal your soul and use it for myself) Enigma (If something has a nervous tick and I notice, I can seal it in folded paper. This includes things like people and a gun that's about to go off) Superfly (I'm trapped in a radio tower that turns me to metal if I try to leave. Also, if you punch it, it punches you back) Part 5: Soft Machine (If I stab anything, including a yacht, it deflates like a balloon) Beach Boy (Interdimensional fishing pole) Clash (This fish can teleport between any two bodies of liquid close enough together, grows in proportion to them, and if you're between them, you're coming with it) Part 6: Kiss (If I put a sticker on something, it becomes two of that thing) Marylin Manson (If you lose a bet to me, I can steal your organs to make you pay the debt) Heavy Weather (Due to subliminal messages transmitted to you via rainbow, you and everything around you are turning into snails. At least you think that. It isn't actually happening, but you are still slow and weak to salt) And I'll hold off on Part 7 because this is really long, and I don't think you've seen what I consider one of the weirder ones. Out of all those, I'd probably pick Heavy Weather, though we don't know if that's an evolved form of Weather Report or just an unlocked ability from when Weather got his memory back.
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Sep 19, 2013 04:26
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I dunno, Part 6 also had Bohemian Rhapsody's death by copyright infringement and Planet Waves, with the power to make sure a meteorite hits where it's standing. Part 6 has a bunch of whackadoo stands. Gravity Nullification Spit, Bullet Redirection, whatever you call Survivor's thing. poo poo's crazy.
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Sep 19, 2013 04:32
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Mr. Maltose posted:I dunno, Part 6 also had Bohemian Rhapsody's death by copyright infringement and Planet Waves, with the power to make sure a meteorite hits where it's standing. Part 6 has a bunch of whackadoo stands. Gravity Nullification Spit, Bullet Redirection, whatever you call Survivor's thing. poo poo's crazy. Yeah, I feel like part 6 had the most bizarre stands. The one that let you literally dig up things from the past. The one that let you control invisible flying creatures that will absorb your body heat until you die. Gestalt plankton stand that takes reanimates a corpse.
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Sep 19, 2013 04:51
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There was a Stand that just turned your life into Memento. Sympathetic Suicide stand. Even the Jojo stand was weird, turning you into string. It was a series that really went all out with creative stands, which is probably why Part 7 is more about creative USE of stands.
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Sep 19, 2013 04:57
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And Part 8's stands are really esoteric and situational because it's not really a series about battles.
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Sep 19, 2013 05:09
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I've noticed that too. Nearly all of the SBR Stands are Ability types. I think only A Silent Way and Pocoloco's Stand have manifested as fully-fledged person shaped spirit buddies. Meanwhile Jojolion's have all had physical forms, but have more rules & tricks to how they can use their abilities. It's an interesting contrast, because (once Stands make Spinning less of a win button), Gyro and Johnny have to figure out how to out-damage their opponents before succumbing to their own wounds, while Gappy has to figure out ways to either win without fighting or else maneuver into a physical confrontation where S&W has the clear upper hand. HitTheTargets fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Sep 19, 2013 05:14
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Yeah, I think Araki talked about specifically designing the Stands in Steel Ball Run to not be man shaped spirit buddies because you just had dudes punching dudes, and he wanted the Stands to be tools to be used cleverly instead.
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Sep 19, 2013 05:20
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Which is why I say SBR had some of the best fights in the series. They were almost never just punching a dude into fine red paste, or how to get to dude to punch him into a fine red paste.
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Sep 19, 2013 05:25
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I don't think we've been reading the same manga. JoJo's fighting has, largely, been clever use of simple powers and abilities to outwit an opponent to land critical blows instead of "gently caress you, I'm just stronger" since all the way back in Part 2. Araki's been getting better at it over time, but I can't think of any fights in, say, Part 4 where it was a "Ok, now I can beat the poo poo out of you." Except maybe Josuke vs. Rohan, but that was more of a gag than a fight.
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Sep 19, 2013 06:43
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Yeah, I worded that really badly. I just meant that the fights in Part 7 felt a bit more organic because at the end of it most people couldn't just use there stand to end the fight. It felt less like it was the stands doing the heavy lifting and more of the people. No one had a stand like Star Platinum or even Crazy Diamond that would just completely murder someone at close range is more of what I was getting at. I didn't mean to say that all the fights were punching dudes in the face, which I now realise I totally came off as saying. EDIT: and even now I don't think I really explained what I meant all that well. I dunno, the fights just felt more organic to me, like it was a person vs. a person more often than a person vs. a stand. Or maybe I'm just a little bit dumb at explaining things 
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Sep 19, 2013 07:31
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For anyone that hasn't checked the games thread this just happened: http://www.polygon.com/2013/9/19/4744012/jojos-bizarre-adventure-all-star-battle-2013 Looks like the game is coming out this year in NA. I am really excited because when I first picked this up in 2006 I never would've that we would get something like this and much less get it in america. The game is well... a kusoge but it's a drat fun one. And anyone that likes jojo should play it.
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Sep 19, 2013 08:19
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Isn't it so imbalanced it's basically unplayable competitively?
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Sep 19, 2013 08:25
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RatHat posted:Isn't it so imbalanced it's basically unplayable competitively? Not really, there's been infinites that need/needed to be fixed but a lot of them were near enough impossible on real players anyway. Outside of that I've seen people do some little tourneys with it already and they turned out fine. Pretty much  VVVVVVVVVVV Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Sep 19, 2013 08:37
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Yardbomb posted:Not really, there's been infinites that need/needed to be fixed but a lot of them were near enough impossible on real players anyway. Outside of that I've seen people do some little tourneys with it already and they turned out fine. 
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Sep 19, 2013 08:52
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Finally finished reading through Steel Ball Run. Been reading through from Phantom Blood since about 2 months ago now on and off and it's been a hell of a ride. It'll be a shame when I get caught up on Part 8 and am stuck waiting with the rest of you  Anyway, that was a pretty good part. I've liked all of the parts so far for varying reasons and I'm glad I read through them. Sometimes stuff got confusing and didn't make any sense but it was still fun to blast through.
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Sep 19, 2013 08:56
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Uznare posted:For anyone that hasn't checked the games thread this just happened: http://www.polygon.com/2013/9/19/4744012/jojos-bizarre-adventure-all-star-battle-2013 This is both good news and bad news because I can't even imagine how they're going to butcher all the names to make them lawyer-friendly. Also why is it that no one can seem to get Campaign Mode right? You DON'T have to pay for it. Geez.
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Sep 19, 2013 08:57
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Also why is it that no one can seem to get Campaign Mode right? You DON'T have to pay for it. Geez. Because people are dumb. I'd still be sour about it some if they kept Campaign charges 20 minutes a piece but man, 5 minutes per blip is nothing. Plus the real money shop stuff is entirely negligible, places always make it sound like they instituted some Pay2Win scheme all over. Also people getting Story and Campaign mixed up and spreading bad information. Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 09:09 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Sep 19, 2013 09:04
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Wonder if it's going to be one of those online-only deals, like Tokyo Jungle. Also, if they have to change the names, I hope they change Purple Haze to Pestis Haze.
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Sep 19, 2013 13:35
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I just hope it includes the gobs of DLC characters. I'm not paying extra for all that poo poo.
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Sep 19, 2013 13:57
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Game is hella boring though, but drat it! so pretty!
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Sep 19, 2013 14:03
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Supersonic Shine posted:Wonder if it's going to be one of those online-only deals, like Tokyo Jungle. I will be disappointed if the game DOES have the original names instead of ridiculous litigation avoiding replacements.
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Sep 19, 2013 14:17
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Would they even really be able to change the names, though? You can't really change what they say in the original Japanese audio. The best you could do, short of dubbing it in English, would be something like "Purparu Heezu". Which like "Eisidisi" isn't technically incorrect.
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Sep 19, 2013 14:21
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Wow, guess it's time to buy a PS3.
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Sep 19, 2013 17:48
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I'm doubting there will be any changes to the names for one reason and one reason only, Namco Bandai does not care enough to do more for their anime games western releases than sub them and slap them on PSN for 50 bucks. I don't believe for a minute they're not just going to make the names what they are and then not publicize the game so it doesn't draw any attention and if they put work into changing names they might as well dub it so as to enforce the names. It's gonna be one or the other and I'm sure it'll e the former before it's the latter.
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Sep 19, 2013 18:04
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I have a sudden regret for getting the Japanese version
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Sep 19, 2013 18:24
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I'm not just yet. Certainly, I'd like to buy it because I want to support JoJo's fandom growth in the west, butSex_Ferguson posted:I'm doubting there will be any changes to the names for one reason and one reason only, Namco Bandai does not care enough to do more for their anime games western releases than sub them and slap them on PSN for 50 bucks. since I agree that this is what's likely to happen, because it's the most cost efficient and legally safe move for NB, by the time it gets pulled to the west, the games should be about identical save the language thing and the channels for getting DLC, and that's only a problem for the things that cost money. If they go full localization with English voices and whatnot, then I'll regret it. Still, I saw more than a few people clamoring about not importing, so maybe we can get a fan surge from this. That would be good.
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Sep 19, 2013 18:40
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onepixeljumpman posted:If they go full localization with English voices and whatnot, then I'll regret it. I'll buy eight!  Pretty much had to happen, with or without that potential leak. It'd be nice if the game that has Baoh would go for some deep cuts from the actual series, though. Having finally gotten into SBR, I'm totally onboard with the Diego Brando campaign now. I think the heroes from Parts 1-4 are fully represented now, which is fairly cool. HitTheTargets fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Sep 19, 2013 21:09
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Oh god, I just realized that there's gonna be so many people complaining that Lisa Lisa is a ripoff of Rose.
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Sep 19, 2013 21:19
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Still waiting for my plankton, dinosaurs, and Miami Dolphins. 
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Sep 19, 2013 21:25
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Still waiting for my plankton, dinosaurs, and Miami Dolphins. Underworld should at least be a loving stage hazard. Getting charged by a sudden Miami Dolphins defensive rush basically writes itself. I'm interested in Old Joseph. Lisa Lisa will probably end up like Fugo and have maybe one notable trait, but otherwise play very basically. Also, that thing under Lisa Lisa in the lower right corner mentions Anasui, Vanilla Ice, and Baoh.
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Sep 19, 2013 21:33
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Waffleman_ posted:And Part 8's stands are really esoteric and situational because it's not really a series about battles. The stand under the leaves (no official name, but maybe Leaves From the Vine?) could be a pretty horrifying battle stand - that grenade that got dropped suddenly is right by your feet, while you slip on your arse (and get blown up). Screws(forgotten the guy's name, but the stand puts screws in things, undoing the screw breaks the attachment) could also theoretically rock in a fight, depending on the conditions for placing and removing screws. You're right though, it's not really about the fights - I kinda like it that way. While I'm waiting for part 8 to update, what's everyones favourite chapter? I've seen/watched/played Stardust Crusade, but I'm trying to decide between jumping to part 7,4 or 5. Trollhawke fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Sep 19, 2013 21:45
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Part 8 is like Part 4 on steroids, thematically as well as referentially. It's all about the mysteries of Morioh, not about stopping the evil plan.
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Sep 19, 2013 21:53
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Trollhawke posted:While I'm waiting for part 8 to update, what's everyones favourite chapter? I've seen/watched/played Stardust Crusade, but I'm trying to decide between jumping to part 7,4 or 5. 4 is pretty great, has some of the most fun characters to it as well as one of the best antagonists. I really wanna like 5 though, it has some of the best fights in the series but it's still suffering from being like 90% in wonky translation for english readers.
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Trollhawke posted:While I'm waiting for part 8 to update, what's everyones favourite chapter? I've seen/watched/played Stardust Crusade, but I'm trying to decide between jumping to part 7,4 or 5. Ugh 7 by like a hairsbreadth because man oh man part 6 is awesome but so is 4 and 5 has some great fights and it's just loving hard to choose. But the Go Go Zeppeli grill will forever be in my heart.
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