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Yup, that sounds like the vendor trying to give you the absolute minimum. It's up to him and FedEx to figure out who pays what, but you shouldn't be left with a busted monitor like that unless they give you a much sweeter deal.
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Dark Solux posted:Hell no. I'd say push for a new one, return shipping prepaid and have him cross ship it to you.
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DrDork posted:You can certainly try and see if you like the resulting color shifts--if not you can always just delete the profile and go back to default. It will not, however, have any impact on backlight glow, as that's a physical property of your monitor, and not something that can be calibrated away. Yeah, I realized for the longest time my RGB settings had B set for 100. I actually liked it but I guess being more accurate is better. Edit: I ended up copying the color profile of one of the admins of the 3dvision-blog that has the same monitor as me. Turned out pretty well but I might buff up the saturation. I'm torn between "Right looking" and "Good looking to me" Ularg fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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I'm thinking about upgrading from my current dual monitor setup (mismatched monitors to boot) to a 3 monitor setup with the Dell Ultrasharps. Probably piece by piece since I doubt I'll be able to afford 3 all at once. http://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSha...d=INBZAPSDDHF8B is this a good deal for the 2412's or should I wait for a sale? I'm half tempted to wait a couple months and hope for the best around black friday.
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Trying to decide what's the best method of switching between my Computer monitor and TV with the PS4/Computer without the need to constantly be plugging and unplugging the hdmi cables. I'm guessing I'll need to HDMI switches? Ultimatly I'd want to be able to switch between the TV and Monitor with either the PS4 (when I get it) and Computer.
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Nullsmack posted:I'm thinking about upgrading from my current dual monitor setup (mismatched monitors to boot) to a 3 monitor setup with the Dell Ultrasharps. Probably piece by piece since I doubt I'll be able to afford 3 all at once. You won't find 2412 Ultrasharps for under $250 unless you have a corporate account with Dell. $268 is a great price, anything under $290 is a good price $280-$310 is the normal price range. http://camelcamelcamel.com/Dell-UltraSharp-24-Inch-LED-lit-Monitor/product/B005JN9310
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Filthee Fingas posted:Trying to decide what's the best method of switching between my Computer monitor and TV with the PS4/Computer without the need to constantly be plugging and unplugging the hdmi cables. HDMI switches change between inputs to a monitor, not between outputs from one device. I don't think they work in reverse, and HDCP probably hates that if they do. On a PC it's easy enough to get a card with multiple outputs and toggle between them in Windows. The PS4 is only going to have a single one though. You can do it on the PS3 because it still has an A/V adapter, but apparently the PS4 is ditching that. vvv That thing is pretty cool. vvv Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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Sep 17, 2013 16:42
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Filthee Fingas posted:Trying to decide what's the best method of switching between my Computer monitor and TV with the PS4/Computer without the need to constantly be plugging and unplugging the hdmi cables. You want something like this: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=6415&seq=1&format=2 You can have up to 4 inputs and output to 2 devices.
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Going back to Cheap Korean Monitorchat (CKM) for a second. As they all only have DVI-D inputs with no AD/Bypass board - am I still able to do this:code:and have it work?
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Illuminati by Nature posted:Going back to Cheap Korean Monitorchat (CKM) for a second. As they all only have DVI-D inputs with no AD/Bypass board - am I still able to do this: HDMI is single-link only so you wouldn't be able to run at native resolution (and if you get a model that doesn't have a scaler you'd be screwed as they don't run at non-native res).
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Mr.Radar posted:HDMI is single-link only so you wouldn't be able to run at native resolution (and if you get a model that doesn't have a scaler you'd be screwed as they don't run at non-native res). Bugger. I need to use the thing as my tv as well (boxee box, Xbox etc) but they all need to run through the receiver. I may have to save up and get a U2713 or something then 
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Mr.Radar posted:HDMI is single-link only so you wouldn't be able to run at native resolution (and if you get a model that doesn't have a scaler you'd be screwed as they don't run at non-native res). So if I have one of the Korean 27" monitors that doesn't have a scaler, will it not work full stop or will it just have black areas around the screen (since I'd be playing a 720/1080 on a 1440 screen)?
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Filthee Fingas posted:So if I have one of the Korean 27" monitors that doesn't have a scaler, will it not work full stop or will it just have black areas around the screen (since I'd be playing a 720/1080 on a 1440 screen)?
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Filthee Fingas posted:So if I have one of the Korean 27" monitors that doesn't have a scaler, will it not work full stop or will it just have black areas around the screen (since I'd be playing a 720/1080 on a 1440 screen)? As the person above me said, the ~400$ versions do it. When I change my resolution of a game in full screen to 1080p, the monitor has an onscreen message saying the new resolution. It then reverts to 1440p when I alt tab. Once my support issue is cleared up, I can refer you a monitor/vendor. Continuing the saga of the broken Korean 27". I asked for a 250$ refund which is pretty simple to me but they read it/refunded it as "Paid 399 - 250 refund = 149" and refunded me $149. I love the conversation I'm having though. Me: I will accept a refund of $250 USD Them: "Well received your message again. Your reply has more persuasive power indeed. I thought and thought and then decided. Your words is right. I will refund $250.00 as your request. With refund $250.00, we have agreed mutually." Them: "Your paid amount is $399.00 Partial refund amount is USD149.00 You got $250.00" Then they only sent $149? Kinda confused how that worked on their part but it continues. I'm not willing to pay $250 for a broken monitor and I tried to explain this. I have no idea if this think will last a month or 60months. Either way, I'm willing to risk $150 on it and replace it when needed but not 250$ MasterColin fucked around with this message at 12:53 on Sep 18, 2013 |
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More Koean monitor fun! I got a Qnix monitor that I thought did not have a scaler and assumed that stuff like bios screens would be in a box with black borders, but I got a full scaled version even though I hadn't installed drivers or anything on my video card. Might they have started adding scalers? Is there any way to check?
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Momonari kun posted:More Koean monitor fun! I got a Qnix monitor that I thought did not have a scaler and assumed that stuff like bios screens would be in a box with black borders, but I got a full scaled version even though I hadn't installed drivers or anything on my video card. Might they have started adding scalers? Is there any way to check? The easiest way to check is to plug something in that is known to not have a built-in scaler. Something like a 360, PS3, or cable box.
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Krailor posted:The easiest way to check is to plug something in that is known to not have a built-in scaler. Something like a 360, PS3, or cable box. Don't have any of those, and the monitor only has DVI input.
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My Korean monitor (Shimian QH270) does not have a scaler since I was using an HDMI->DVI cable when I plugged it in and it didn't work. Switching to a dual link DVI->DVI cable fixed that problem. I am able to see the bios and everything scaled up to full screen. I guess the video card handles all that (Nvidia 570)
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Squibbles posted:My Korean monitor (Shimian QH270) does not have a scaler since I was using an HDMI->DVI cable when I plugged it in and it didn't work. Switching to a dual link DVI->DVI cable fixed that problem. I am able to see the bios and everything scaled up to full screen. I guess the video card handles all that (Nvidia 570)
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MasterColin posted:Continuing the saga of the broken Korean 27". I asked for a 250$ refund which is pretty simple to me but they read it/refunded it as "Paid 399 - 250 refund = 149" and refunded me $149. So finally sounds like they are going to refund the remainder. Fedex's fault and they refunded me 250$. I'm happy with the customer service. Not to mention no dead pixels. I would add ECOMADE ARENA to the safe/preferred buying list
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I'm sure this had been answered to death but what's the consensus on HDTV vs. Regular computer monitor for gaming?
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It will generally be an awful laggy mess, although depending on the TV it might be OK (Some have an actual game mode to reduce input lag, but in general, TVs are far, far laggier than normal monitors are).
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SalTheBard posted:I'm sure this had been answered to death but what's the consensus on HDTV vs. Regular computer monitor for gaming? I don't know if there's a more comprehensive site but you should check out http://www.displaylag.com/ for this.
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SalTheBard posted:I'm sure this had been answered to death but what's the consensus on HDTV vs. Regular computer monitor for gaming? I used an HDTV for a monitor for years, worked great.
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Coredump posted:I used an HDTV for a monitor for years, worked great. I'm using a 54" plasma as my monitor now while I play through a bunch of cross-platform games with a wireless gamepad and it's totally fine. It does suck for trying to read text but I mostly just boot directly into Steam's Big Picture mode these days. It's also a nice preview of what console game graphics will look like in the year 2020. The downside is that I can't really play anything that's not a cross-platform port with controller support. But, I have enough of those games in my backlog that for the time being I'm OK not being able to play Diablo 3, Starcraft, Guild Wars 2, etc. Parker Lewis fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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SalTheBard posted:I'm sure this had been answered to death but what's the consensus on HDTV vs. Regular computer monitor for gaming? If your goal is to use it like a console - just gaming, with a wireless gamepad from a television appropriate distance, it will be acceptable. If you intend to put the tv on your desk and use it like a computer monitor, don't. It will look awful.
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[edit] I apparently already asked this, so nm. 
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Thanks for the replies everyone! I actually decided to get the Asus VG248 because of good reviews. Wow going from 20in to 24in is amazing.
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This thread was of help to me a while ago so here's my results: I'm an artist and do huge prints of photos that are displayed in nice galleries and cost a lot of money so things need to be Done Right. I was replacing an Apple Cinema Display. I looked a lot at monitors that displayed all of Adobe RGB and were still CCFL backlit and buying calibration equipment that was four figures and a FireGL card so I had a continuous 10-bit pipeline blah blah blah What it came down to was no matter how perfectly accurate the color on my monitor was, when adding in the variables of paper and ink combinations, lighting, glazing, etc., that it didn't matter. 'Convential' monitors displaying 99% or whatever of sRGB were sufficient if the overall quality of the display was good. I will always having to tweak based upon what comes out of the printer, there will always be test prints. So I bought a Viewsonic VP2770-LED and, because it was LED backlit I needed a new colorimeter, I bought an i1Display. The two work together marvelously, and I'm very happy.
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:This thread was of help to me a while ago so here's my results: This seems to be your only post in this iteration of the topic so I can't see exactly what it is you were asking about, but yeah, you always need to proof anything that's printed. It's a bitch.
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The Lord Bude posted:If your goal is to use it like a console - just gaming, with a wireless gamepad from a television appropriate distance, it will be acceptable. Not true. Worked great for me and everyone who ever sat at my desk.
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I'm planning on getting a 27" monitor somewhat soon and I would like a suggestion or two. That Dell one I've seen recommened in the OP(s) is outside my price range. I'm looking for one close to the $400-$500 range. I was looking at this overlord computer one as well as these two Monoprice monitors. I'm not sure which is the best for me. I don't really care about the 120Hz refresh touted on the overlord one. I'm not much of a hardcore gamer (although I do play games occasionally). Color reproduction is more important than gaming performance since I do photoshop and 3d texture stuff, but not at a level to where I can justify a $700+ monitor. Any direction you could point me would be great, even if you just tell me I'm dumb and should save my money instead for a dell or something.
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Nondescript Van posted:I'm planning on getting a 27" monitor somewhat soon and I would like a suggestion or two. That Dell one I've seen recommened in the OP(s) is outside my price range. I'm looking for one close to the $400-$500 range. I was looking at this overlord computer one as well as these two Monoprice monitors. I'm not sure which is the best for me. In Australia (can't comment on the US for obvious reasons) 27inchers regularly (at least once every one-two months) go on sale for around $500. If time isn't a huge concern I'd look and wait for any deals that pop up.
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Coredump posted:Not true. Worked great for me and everyone who ever sat at my desk. My friend uses a 32" 1080p TV (not some generic brand either) as a monitor and I want to gouge my eyes out every time I look at his screen up close. Huge visible pixels, blurry text - It's poo poo. Even a regular monitor at 1080p looks like arse if it's bigger than 24 inches or so. You must either have incredibly low standards, or have never seen a decent 1440p screen for comparison. Guni posted:In Australia (can't comment on the US for obvious reasons) 27inchers regularly (at least once every one-two months) go on sale for around $500. If time isn't a huge concern I'd look and wait for any deals that pop up. I'll add to this that anyone in Australia should be going out of their way to purchase their screen (or any hardware really) from an Australian retailer, not try and get it shipped from overseas, so that you can be sure to be buying from a retailer that will adhere (or can be induced to adhere) to Australian consumer protection law.
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I wish there was an accurate way to take a screenshot of a game and share what the color calibration and brightness/contrast looks for other people over the internet. I'm playing around with my non-gaming presets on my monitor while playing Planetside 2 and it is absolutely gorgeous. The saturation is a bit high, but I'm on what is basically Hoth on sunset and everything just pops and looks so great with each other. Nothing looks washed out like with my game presets and so far nothing looks too dark to see like with my more cinematic preset. Edit: I'm also finding out I need to change my monitors preset for almost every game I play. Some games the standard or game preset makes everything look washed out. On the Scenery / Theater presets it makes some of the darks too dark to see what you are supposed to be able to see. Ularg fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Sep 20, 2013 |
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Nondescript Van posted:I'm planning on getting a 27" monitor somewhat soon and I would like a suggestion or two. That Dell one I've seen recommened in the OP(s) is outside my price range. I'm looking for one close to the $400-$500 range. I was looking at this overlord computer one as well as these two Monoprice monitors. I'm not sure which is the best for me. The Dell U2713HM goes on sale for $550 at lot if you want to spring for one of those. Otherwise I'd say of the 3 you listed, the cheaper monoprice one is the way to go. Although I doubt they're any different than the many 27" Korean IPS and PLS panels. I'm personally using 2 Qnix QX2710s that I picked up for $270
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I'm trying to find a way to get my Dell UltraSharp U2412M to work with my Xbox 360. I've found a hdmi to dvi cable that works (no HDMI input on the monitor), but I'm not sure if there is any way I can get audio through this monitor. Would connecting usb speakers to the monitor work? If there's no way I can get this to function, I'll most likely want to get a new PC monitor that supports HDMI. Someone on this page said they bought an Asus VG248, which seems to be the sort of thing I'd be looking for. Are there any other cheaper monitors that support HDMI and have speakers or an input for a 3.5mm audio jack?
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Mashed Potato posted:I'm trying to find a way to get my Dell UltraSharp U2412M to work with my Xbox 360. I've found a hdmi to dvi cable that works (no HDMI input on the monitor), but I'm not sure if there is any way I can get audio through this monitor. Would connecting usb speakers to the monitor work? I'd probably just buy the official VGA cable, then use either the red and white jacks with a simple adapter to 3.5mm, honestly, the 360 is only rendering games in 1280x720, I think you'd not notice VGA vs HDMI, but I could be wrong. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Sep 20, 2013 |
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Nondescript Van posted:I'm planning on getting a 27" monitor somewhat soon and I would like a suggestion or two. That Dell one I've seen recommened in the OP(s) is outside my price range. I'm looking for one close to the $400-$500 range. I was looking at this overlord computer one as well as these two Monoprice monitors. I'm not sure which is the best for me. So far my 27" Korean monitor has been lovely, but I'm of the opinion you really can't go wrong with a Dell Ultrasharp. I have two 23" models and they've been excellent since day one.
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The Lord Bude posted:Huge visible pixels, blurry text - It's poo poo. The Lord Bude posted:I want to gouge my eyes out every time I look at his screen up close. I don't want to be "that guy," but it probably looks better if you're looking at the screen from the intended distance.
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