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Hashtag Nascar posted:lol transporters would be so fuckin good just to be abke to pos all the time cause you could trsnaport food and drink into your mouth and piss and poo poo out very ftw the sudden absence of posts in yr colon would snap your blood pressure down too fast and you'd pass out
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Shaggar posted:I've always liked asamov's style. the characters aren't really important in most of his stuff, its all about the ideas and the universe and they're just the vehicle for the reader's exploration. plus in foundation he burns through piles of them cause he jumps around in time so the characters are even less important. i'm still mad about how fresh prince vs. the robots portrayed asimov's lady robopsychiatrist quote:i guess i could understand how someone might not like that, but on the other hand i hate character studies in universes that make no sense (BSG). it wasn't even that, the writers hosed around with the characters to fit their incoherent plot rather than letting the characters drive it
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raruler posted:destination void was hard to read literally, as in the book seemed to be written by someone using English words with another language's grammar. Naked Lunch was written more coherently. i suppose it would make a certain kind of sense if the book were written from the perspective of the "machine" itself. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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frank herbert didn't alway hit home runs. the jesus incident was pretty good but i remember reading a short story where aliens communicated by dancing and the world would be destroyed unless humans could figure out how to talk to them or something.
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actually, i really liked the jesus incident. i should track down the sequels edit: it's a sequel to destination void? dang, i didn't realize that. doubledit: i forgot that it took place on pandora Improbable Lobster fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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hey, remember tron, the new one, with the daft punk soundtrack? lol. what a stupid load of poo poo that was
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Amethyst posted:hey, remember tron, the new one, with the daft punk soundtrack? pros -daft punk -jeff bridges -cyberspace cons -plot -charactres -acting people who arent jeff bridges or daft punks
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Improbable Lobster posted:pros
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remember the bit near the end where tron, the character, briefly turned good for no reason and they clumsily put in some audio samples from the first movie about how he loves the users or some dumb crap. lol
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tron was cool as hell man gtfo here. the 1st tron was dumb as hell and so was the 2nd tron. theyre sposed to be vapid visual extravaganzas and it fkin delivered. i mean dude, did you see that total hot babe? and the neon? man that movie looked so loving cool and had a rad as hell sound track it really owned.
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i guess if you're content to slurp down poorly conceived, poorly written garbage it's great! easy to digest, fun movies don't necessarily need to be completely incompetent. see all of steven spielberg's output
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setting the bar awfully high. i wish all filmmakers were masters of spielbergs caliber but thats pretty unlikely hehe youre correct of course but i don't have the heart to slam a tron movie i guess
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also the soundtrack was bad. really bad. in my experience, people who love it don't listen to soundtracks or dance music very much
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sorry smythe the above post is harsh i'm glad you like tron
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no upon further reflection youre right but idk i go into a movie with certain expectations and w/r/t tron its to see some cool rear end poo poo and i think the tron;legagy was sufficiently cool looking. i guess i just dont expect every film to actually be good - but ive seen and worked on a lot of bad films so w/e
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oh man an infinite digital world, we can really roll with our imaginations on this one LETS MAKE EVERYTHING BLUE AND ORANGE
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discs of tron was ok
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tron was a feature-length daft punk music video, i dug it
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Amethyst posted:content to slurp down poorly conceived, poorly written garbage speaking of this, i just saw star trek into darkness last night. is it spergy to be upset that most of the plot doesn't make any sense at all? two hours of looking at lens flares with a furrowed brow because the thing that just happened was retarded even using the jj-abrams-just-enjoy-the-ride logic.
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there are plot holes like the magic khan blood, but other than that its pretty straight forward
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Shaggar posted:there are plot holes like the magic khan blood, but other than that its pretty straight forward The teleporter poo poo is pretty dumb, why do you need starships if you can just teleport yourself across the galaxy?
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Improbable Lobster posted:pros murderous guy-who-definitely-isn't-david-bowie was cool
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golgo13sf posted:The teleporter poo poo is pretty dumb, why do you need starships if you can just teleport yourself across the galaxy? because in star trek the real prime directive is never actually think about the technology
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Shaggar posted:there are plot holes like the magic khan blood, but other than that its pretty straight forward why does admiral robocop set up an overly elaborate double/triple cross with cryo-torpedoes when apparantly earth and kronos are a few minutes apart and you can just go there without any resistance and glass the planet if so inclined. everything about it was dumb. also i don't understand the guy at the beginning who is perfectly willing to murder dozens of innocent people to help his daughter. that's not very federationy.
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it sux because i really like all those actors and i wanted to have a good time 
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rigberry enema posted:also i don't understand the guy at the beginning who is perfectly willing to murder dozens of innocent people to help his daughter. that's not very federationy. it's because jjtrek humans are capable of having conflicting loyalties and making irrational decisions for emotional reasons, unlike rodenberry's race of perfect boy scouts who do the right thing every time. its one of the relatively few things it does better than most trek.
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rigberry enema posted:why does admiral robocop set up an overly elaborate double/triple cross with cryo-torpedoes when apparantly earth and kronos are a few minutes apart and you can just go there without any resistance and glass the planet if so inclined. everything about it was dumb. also i don't understand the guy at the beginning who is perfectly willing to murder dozens of innocent people to help his daughter. that's not very federationy. Robocop uses the cryo-torpedoes to control khan, khan tricks kirk into believing Robocop is the greater evil, kirk helps khan take over the big ship and kill Robocop and get his people back, khan betrays kirk
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Shaggar posted:Robocop uses the cryo-torpedoes to control khan, khan tricks kirk into believing Robocop is the greater evil, kirk helps khan take over the big ship and kill Robocop and get his people back, khan betrays kirk i get that's what happened but why did the above go onto the white board and get enthusiastically circled at the admiral brainstorm session before "take our new fuckoff dreadnaught to kronos and blow up khan + kronos + any klingons that are currently on kronos" or "use intergalactic teleporter to send a few dozen 50 megaton bombs to kronos"
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only khan had the teleporter and it fried when he used it (lol).
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Shaggar posted:only khan had the teleporter and it fried when he used it (lol). 
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transwarp beaming and khan blood are the two dumbest things in the movie cause they're universe breaking, but they're never talked about again. also they let the writers be lazy instead of just doing something more plausible. ex: khan could have just escaped to Qo'nos using his ship cause Starfleet was in a state of disarray following his attack. this fits with what we just witnessed and reminds the viewer that Starfleet was pretty much wiped out in the first movie and wouldnt have been able to immediately follow him, which is an important plot point for this movie.
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how come benedict holmes didn't shoot a missile into the conference room and immediately blow up everyone in the briefing room why didn't he teleport himself into the room and shoot everyone up with the chaingun-phaser why didn't he teleport grenades into the room why did they have to get khan's blood when they could have just grabbed blood from one of the other supermen that they had to thaw anyway to free up a freezer for kirk if they don't have electronic stasis units like in TNG then why did they abandon the cryo-stasis unit technology why did carol marcus have to be portrayed as weak and helpless in the face of male strength why did uhura not actually get to defeat khan but merely enabled spock's triumph why does every new movie hinge on getting spok mad
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^^^ yeah that bugged me a lot, let's see we've got 72 other ubermensches in the cargo hold, let's not use their blood instead.Shaggar posted:transwarp beaming and khan blood are the two dumbest things in the movie cause they're universe breaking, but they're never talked about again. also they let the writers be lazy instead of just doing something more plausible. ex: khan could have just escaped to Qo'nos using his ship cause Starfleet was in a state of disarray following his attack. this fits with what we just witnessed and reminds the viewer that Starfleet was pretty much wiped out in the first movie and wouldnt have been able to immediately follow him, which is an important plot point for this movie. that actually makes a lot of sense. makes me wonder why the admiral planned to incite a war though if the fleet was still in tatters. Chum Scandal fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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rigberry enema posted:that actually makes a lot of sense. makes me wonder why the admiral planned to incite a war though if the fleet was still in tatters. he was going to use his new supership to hold off the klingons while space-congress appropriated the money to build a new battle fleet. then he was going to bust the klingos wide open with that retractable space-penis that dropped down but failed to fire
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Robocop was building a secret army that he controlled. he wanted to push Starfleet (using the events of jj trek 1 and the Klingon threat) to rebuild more stuff using his tech thus giving himself more power. that's his primary motivation, altho he might think hes doing it for the good of the federation. he didn't see either of khan's attacks coming and everything he does is an attempt to get him back under control. khan wanted him to start panicking and doing dumb stuff cause it would let khan get ahold of the big ship (which khan designed to be piloted by himself)
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:how come benedict holmes didn't shoot a missile into the conference room and immediately blow up everyone in the briefing room yeah theres a lot of stuff that trek just doesn't do even though it makes sense (beaming nukes, for example) cause its universe breaking other stuff is bad writing. the thing w/ the khan blood was that bones knew khan blood would work, he didn't know if anyone elses would.
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Shaggar posted:yeah theres a lot of stuff that trek just doesn't do even though it makes sense (beaming nukes, for example) cause its universe breaking other stuff is bad writing. the thing w/ the khan blood was that bones knew khan blood would work, he didn't know if anyone elses would. plus he'd have to microwave-defrost one and they just never taste the same afterwards
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Shaggar posted:transwarp beaming and khan blood are the two dumbest things in the movie cause they're universe breaking, but they're never talked about again unlike the rest of star trek, where
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