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dakana
Aug 28, 2006
So I packed up my Salvador Dali print of two blindfolded dental hygienists trying to make a circle on an Etch-a-Sketch and headed for California.
How to shrub people and make them like it:

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ZippySLC
Jun 3, 2002


~what is art, baby dont post, dont post, no more~

no seriously don't post

XTimmy posted:

70-200mm for head and shoulders, 50mm/17-50mm for anything wider. Longer focal lengths allow you to shoot at larger distances, reducing perspective distortion. Also 200mm at f2.8 is just gravy.

Semi-professional means "likes having photos taken of them, 1 in 5 chance actually knows how to pose".

I used the 70-200mm exclusively for the shoot.

You're pretty much dead on in your assessment. One of the kids modeled well. It was impossible to get Danielle to look at me while I was shooting her. Someone else showed up with a camera and I guess she was busy looking at him.


Book Cover Photo by benruset, on Flickr


Book Cover Photo by benruset, on Flickr


Book Cover Photo by benruset, on Flickr


Book Cover Photo by benruset, on Flickr

FistLips
Dec 14, 2004

Must I dream and always see your face?
I took some pictures! Feedback welcome!

A girl:

AJK_2770.jpg by SAFistLips, on Flickr

A guy:

AJK_2933 by SAFistLips, on Flickr


More on my Flickr page if you want to have a look.

ZippySLC
Jun 3, 2002


~what is art, baby dont post, dont post, no more~

no seriously don't post

FistLips posted:

I took some pictures! Feedback welcome!

Film or digital? I didn't see any exif information on your flickr.

FistLips
Dec 14, 2004

Must I dream and always see your face?

ZippySLC posted:

Film or digital? I didn't see any exif information on your flickr.

Digital, Nikon D7000 and the Tamron 60mm Macro for both.

ZippySLC
Jun 3, 2002


~what is art, baby dont post, dont post, no more~

no seriously don't post

FistLips posted:

Digital, Nikon D7000 and the Tamron 60mm Macro for both.

Nice. That 2270 picture has a really nice film feel to it.

Bob Mundon
Dec 1, 2003
Your Friendly Neighborhood Gun Nut

FistLips posted:

Digital, Nikon D7000 and the Tamron 60mm Macro for both.



Like that lens? Have thought about replacing my Canon 50 1.8 with one for potrait work. Ok on Macro?

FistLips
Dec 14, 2004

Must I dream and always see your face?

Bob Mundon posted:

Like that lens? Have thought about replacing my Canon 50 1.8 with one for potrait work. Ok on Macro?

As someone said in the macro thread, the AF is SLOOOOOW, but the results are good. I love it for portraits, despite the slow AF. Macro is good too, but I suck more at macro than at portraits, so I don't have any good examples for that. Searching for the lens on Flickr gives a few examples that people have been able to get good results from it, though.

Bob Mundon
Dec 1, 2003
Your Friendly Neighborhood Gun Nut

FistLips posted:

As someone said in the macro thread, the AF is SLOOOOOW, but the results are good. I love it for portraits, despite the slow AF. Macro is good too, but I suck more at macro than at portraits, so I don't have any good examples for that. Searching for the lens on Flickr gives a few examples that people have been able to get good results from it, though.



Good idea thanks. And yeah it would mostly be for portraits anyway, so that was my main concern. Definitely a couple of nice examples of what it can do there too.


Curious, as Zippy said 2270 has a nice feel to it, what did you do to get that?

FistLips
Dec 14, 2004

Must I dream and always see your face?

Bob Mundon posted:

Curious, as Zippy said 2270 has a nice feel to it, what did you do to get that?


Just some split toning and vignette in Lightroom, nothing special. Another picture from the same set, but less processing done to it:



AJK_2769-Edit.jpg by SAFistLips, on Flickr

Wario In Real Life
Nov 9, 2009

by T. Finninho
Someone recommend me a good portrait lens (preferably a prime) that can also double for macro use and is <$300. Thanks nerds.

Is the Tamron 60 really that good? I could probably spring the extra cash if it's a superb portrait lens, but I'm also interested in other options.

Chitin
Apr 29, 2007

It is no sign of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

Wario In Real Life posted:

Someone recommend me a good portrait lens (preferably a prime) that can also double for macro use and is <$300. Thanks nerds.

Is the Tamron 60 really that good? I could probably spring the extra cash if it's a superb portrait lens, but I'm also interested in other options.

What system?

Wario In Real Life
Nov 9, 2009

by T. Finninho
Oops, Canon crop.

TheAngryDrunk
Jan 31, 2003

"I don't know why I know that; I took four years of Spanish."

Wario In Real Life posted:

Someone recommend me a good portrait lens (preferably a prime) that can also double for macro use and is <$300. Thanks nerds.

Is the Tamron 60 really that good? I could probably spring the extra cash if it's a superb portrait lens, but I'm also interested in other options.

<$300 will be tough. If you can spring a little more, the Canon 60mm is a good option. You could also buy a 50mm (f1.8 or the f/1.4) and also buy some extension tubes for macro work.

ZippySLC
Jun 3, 2002


~what is art, baby dont post, dont post, no more~

no seriously don't post
I'm planning on taking a few pictures of one of my female friends tonight. The idea will be that she will sit with a fairly bright building to her left and behind which should light up half of her face, and the other half will be fairly dimly lit. I want to go for a high contrast b&w sort of thing.

How do folks think I should expose for this? Should I meter off the bright side of her face, the dark, or see what the readings are for both and pick something in the middle?

(Sorry if this is an overly newbie question.)

Edit: If it matters, this is the building I'll be shooting by.

ZippySLC fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Sep 26, 2013

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
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shit wizard dad

ZippySLC posted:

I'm planning on taking a few pictures of one of my female friends tonight. The idea will be that she will sit with a fairly bright building to her left and behind which should light up half of her face, and the other half will be fairly dimly lit. I want to go for a high contrast b&w sort of thing.

How do folks think I should expose for this? Should I meter off the bright side of her face, the dark, or see what the readings are for both and pick something in the middle?

(Sorry if this is an overly newbie question.)

Edit: If it matters, this is the building I'll be shooting by.

Shooting digital? All of the above, make notes and see what does what when you get the shots home to process. Seriously, experience is the best tutor, don't be afraid to experiment to get a handle on what metering corresponds to what resultant exposure on your camera. Between that and Lightroom (or whatever raw processor you prefer - you ARE shooting Raw I hope?) you'll get an evening's assignment and some pleasing results :)

<edit> Unrelated, but I got some unexpectedly cool lighting at the last burly I covered:


Scarlett Daggers - The Coquette Collective - 21st September 2013 by NoneMoreNegative, on Flickr

Was expecting the lights to go down for the fire-eating bit of her act, but not the blue fill light; rolling the shutter down to 1/60 meant I could keep the ISO sensible and catch some motion in the flames, though I did get a few blurred shots during anything fast-motion. Only thing to learn from this set is to roll down the aperture a bit from 2.8 for extra DOF if someone's going to perform side-on - this was almost a good one: https://www.flickr.com/photos/nonemorenegative/9882469004 except I had 9-point focus mode on the center and got misplaced DOF :smith:

Can't inline my favourite favourite here from the act as it might be NWS :o: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nonemorenegative/9882565923 - love that devilish tiki volcano-goddess light.

Other faves from the evening:


(I think I'm a sucker for diagonal leg poses or something)

ps. Whoever said I should move around from the single shooting point last time; yup, got some nice stuff from center-back and the opposite side from my usual vantage point, good call :)

NoneMoreNegative fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Sep 27, 2013

ZippySLC
Jun 3, 2002


~what is art, baby dont post, dont post, no more~

no seriously don't post

NoneMoreNegative posted:

Shooting digital? All of the above, make notes and see what does what when you get the shots home to process. Seriously, experience is the best tutor, don't be afraid to experiment to get a handle on what metering corresponds to what resultant exposure on your camera. Between that and Lightroom (or whatever raw processor you prefer - you ARE shooting Raw I hope?) you'll get an evening's assignment and some pleasing results :)

Definitely shooting RAW, although I am an Aperture consumer.

Edit: Doesn't matter, my friend bailed on me.

ZippySLC fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Sep 27, 2013

XTimmy
Nov 28, 2007
I am Jacks self hatred

NoneMoreNegative posted:

Shooting digital? All of the above, make notes and see what does what when you get the shots home to process. Seriously, experience is the best tutor, don't be afraid to experiment to get a handle on what metering corresponds to what resultant exposure on your camera. Between that and Lightroom (or whatever raw processor you prefer - you ARE shooting Raw I hope?) you'll get an evening's assignment and some pleasing results :)


I agree with this approach buuuutttt as much as I agree with experimenting for experience, pre-planning and being able to predict results without stepping on-location is a useful skill.
The way you'll want to meter it is dependent largely on what you want the image to look like.
Want something dark and moody with perhaps little or no detail in the darks? Meter for the highlights.
Want something high key and perhaps a little blown out: Meter for the shadows.
Want something technically correct but probably super dull: Average the two.

Try all three, but try to visualize what each will look like before hand, and ask how you'll achieve each version without going near your camera.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Wario In Real Life posted:

Oops, Canon crop.
I don't know about price, but the Tamron 60/2 is the only thing that fits your requirements.

Chitin
Apr 29, 2007

It is no sign of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
Spot meter off the side you want properly exposed, IE the side that's lit.

Also +1 to the nifty fifty as a good portrait lens on a crop body. On a full frame I hear the 85 f1.8 is an amazing value.

powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I loved the 85 1.8 for portraits when I was still on Canon. While it seems like not as many people like it, the 50 1.4 was great for somewhat wider shots where I wanted to give a sense of the environment. It's definitely delicate though.

Bud
Oct 5, 2002

Quite Polite Like Walter Cronkite
Here are a few from an engagement shoot I did for some friends. It was directly after the question was popped and champagne was shared, so the lovey poses were easy to get.
Fun fact, using a tripod in a NYC park makes you a professional and thus requires you to have a $400 permit. Or you know, just run away.


DandT_Firsts_Full-11 by Bud_lish, on Flickr

DandT_Seconds_Full-21 by Bud_lish, on Flickr

DandT_Firsts_Full-17 by Bud_lish, on Flickr

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

Bud posted:

Here are a few from an engagement shoot I did for some friends. It was directly after the question was popped and champagne was shared, so the lovey poses were easy to get.
Fun fact, using a tripod in a NYC park makes you a professional and thus requires you to have a $400 permit. Or you know, just run away.


DandT_Firsts_Full-11 by Bud_lish, on Flickr

DandT_Seconds_Full-21 by Bud_lish, on Flickr

DandT_Firsts_Full-17 by Bud_lish, on Flickr

First is really good. Second looks like they're watching something more interesting off to the side and I don't like the processing. Third is almost there but I feel like it's missing something. Maybe if she was looking at him or her face was more out of focus with the ring taking a bigger portion of the frame. I like the framing with them, but if that's what you want then make them the focus and not the ring. Also she will like you more if you make her veins less obvious (it looks like you did some skin smoothing but it just made her hands look airbrushed and didn't solve the problem) and also maybe liquify her hands a little smaller since they only look so big because of perspective distortion.

FistLips
Dec 14, 2004

Must I dream and always see your face?

FistLips posted:

Took this picture that I was pretty happy with of a friend the other day. The light where we were was primarily some daylight, but mostly lit by heating lamps on the walls/in the roof. I know her eyes are a tiny bit dark - she's promised me that I can photograph her under better conditions, though!

Any feedback is welcome!


AJK_2274.jpg by SAFistLips, on Flickr


Edit: updated a bit.

Finally got around to taking a few more pictures of her!


AJK_3085 by SAFistLips, on Flickr


AJK_2989 by SAFistLips, on Flickr

thetzar
Apr 22, 2001
Fallen Rib

FistLips posted:

Finally got around to taking a few more pictures of her!


AJK_3085 by SAFistLips, on Flickr


AJK_2989 by SAFistLips, on Flickr

The first one is very nice, haunting eyes. The second shot seems too dark for me; those shadows just drop right out. Is that what you were going for?

I've got some snapshots/candids for y'all.


Untitled by thetzar, on Flickr


Untitled by thetzar, on Flickr


Untitled by thetzar, on Flickr


Untitled by thetzar, on Flickr


Untitled by thetzar, on Flickr

FistLips
Dec 14, 2004

Must I dream and always see your face?

thetzar posted:

The first one is very nice, haunting eyes. The second shot seems too dark for me; those shadows just drop right out. Is that what you were going for?

I wanted a dark feeling to it, yes. But I see your point. I might play a little with it later.


Love this. Looks like it could be from a movie or music video!

xenilk
Apr 17, 2004

ERRYDAY I BE SPLIT-TONING! Honestly, its the only skill I got other than shooting the back of women and calling it "Editorial".

FistLips posted:

Finally got around to taking a few more pictures of her!


AJK_3085 by SAFistLips, on Flickr


AJK_2989 by SAFistLips, on Flickr



I like the first one and that one too, even tho it seems a bit underexposed to me. Love the connection.

As for me, did a random shoot in a friend's condo yesterday featuring some gear for a music event here.


IMG_6821 by avoyer, on Flickr


IMG_6842 by avoyer, on Flickr


IMG_6402 by avoyer, on Flickr

ZippySLC
Jun 3, 2002


~what is art, baby dont post, dont post, no more~

no seriously don't post

xenilk posted:


As for me, did a random shoot in a friend's condo yesterday featuring some gear for a music event here.


IMG_6821 by avoyer, on Flickr

Love this. Of course I don't know if it's because of the photograph or the model.

That Damn Satyr
Nov 4, 2008

A connoisseur of fine junk
Been doing a lot of studio stuff lately and just a little location type shots. Still very new at this whole portraiture thing, so all critique is welcome and greatly appreciated.


Stephanie by eachus, on Flickr


Jason Headshot by eachus, on Flickr


Kay by eachus, on Flickr

xenilk
Apr 17, 2004

ERRYDAY I BE SPLIT-TONING! Honestly, its the only skill I got other than shooting the back of women and calling it "Editorial".

ZippySLC posted:

Love this. Of course I don't know if it's because of the photograph or the model.

Hoping a little bit of both ;P

Wario In Real Life
Nov 9, 2009

by T. Finninho

ZippySLC posted:

Love this. Of course I don't know if it's because of the photograph or the model.
What exactly do you love about it? Because I'm looking at it and nothing stands out as particularly interesting at all.

Miko
May 20, 2001

Where I come from, there's no such thing as kryptonite.
The couch being off line is bothering me. I know its not directly supposed to be horizon-level, but egh.

xenilk
Apr 17, 2004

ERRYDAY I BE SPLIT-TONING! Honestly, its the only skill I got other than shooting the back of women and calling it "Editorial".

Wario In Real Life posted:

What exactly do you love about it? Because I'm looking at it and nothing stands out as particularly interesting at all.

I would love to hear your opinion on it. I realize that it's mainstream, but I personally like the attitude/vibe going on. And I enjoyed doing it without going the easy way of having her remove as much as possible to make it more appealing.

Miko posted:

The couch being off line is bothering me. I know its not directly supposed to be horizon-level, but egh.

Yeah I had problems with my lines, I ended up using the wall line as the level, but I see what you mean

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads
I agree the shots look crooked, and just seem really off-ballance. Also I'm not a fan of the composition of the first one, theres too much negative space above her of a blown out window, it's really not doing anything for the photo. The blown out window is very distracting and makes the image hard to look at, as the exposure is fine on the model, but it's like she's being shot against the sun, a blank wall would have been much better. The cups everywhere indicates it might be the morning after a party or something, but with the bottles closed and at such rigid angles in the photo it kind of kills the vibe, also she's looks far too well made up for a "morning after" photo.

Sorry if that doesn't make any sense, just off the top of my head.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

xenilk posted:

I realize that it's mainstream, but I personally like the attitude/vibe going on.

She's trying to convey attitude with the super edgy middle finger and labels-conspicuously-turned-away bottles of alcohol but her face just looks like she's constipated and the way she's holding her arm so close to her body to lift her shirt is awkward as hell.

The second is almost okay in a generic poor man's Maxim sort of way, but the hand on the bottle looks too posed. If she had both hands in her hair or really anywhere else except laid floppily across the bottle it would probably work.

The third is alright.

You've posted some really good stuff in this thread but I'm not feeling anything with these particular photos. The blown out backgrounds are especially not doing anything positive.

That drat Satyr posted:

Been doing a lot of studio stuff lately and just a little location type shots. Still very new at this whole portraiture thing, so all critique is welcome and greatly appreciated.


Stephanie by eachus, on Flickr


Jason Headshot by eachus, on Flickr


Kay by eachus, on Flickr

Last one has a nice photojournalistic feel to it. The other two are competent but not particularly interesting.

LuisX
Aug 4, 2004
Sword Chuck, yo!
Spedman and Mephistopheles said all I had to say.

Gazmachine
May 22, 2005

Happy Happy Breakdance Challenge 4
Not to lay it on too thick, Xenlik, but I have to add to the dissenting voices here. They seem utterly thoughtless in terms of composition, the light is flat and uninteresting and she has no spark or connection.

The finger is so forced and she looks like she's waiting for the photo to be taken. with the second shot, I don't know whether she is meant to have a headache from drinking all the booze the night before or if that is a sexy hand in hair pose.

The arrangement of stuff in the frame feels pretty thoughtless and the window pane slicing through her head vertically is awkward, as is she.

There is a fuckton of window light there; using it to side-light her would've looked much nicer, I'm sure. Work hard on metering as carefully as possible. After all, you have all the time in the world to nail the exposure with something like this.

xenilk
Apr 17, 2004

ERRYDAY I BE SPLIT-TONING! Honestly, its the only skill I got other than shooting the back of women and calling it "Editorial".
I hear you all and you raise some good points, thank you for the elaborate critiques!

Evilkiksass
Jun 30, 2007
I am literally Bowbles IRL :(

DO A KEGSTAND BRAH

xenilk posted:

As for me, did a random shoot in a friend's condo yesterday featuring some gear for a music event here.


IMG_6821 by avoyer, on Flickr

Well if it is a MUSIC event ... :rolleyes:

She looks so bored. You have branded material, that is not showing the branding fully on her... What exactly were you thinking you were going to convey with this image? Given that you have greek letters in your "gear" I am guessing that this is for a college event? Maybe ask them for help with set design next time? What are full vodka bottles and cups on the ground supposed to convey? Everyone came over, took a cup, and tossed them on the ground? Why is she flipping us off? To make her seem harder to get? Then why does she look like she is offering us the booze? This whole image seems lazy and poorly thought out. If you want to show us a hot girl, great, you did it. If you are trying to do anything beyond that, I think you were pretty lazy and really failed in that sense.

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ZippySLC
Jun 3, 2002


~what is art, baby dont post, dont post, no more~

no seriously don't post

Evilkiksass posted:

Well if it is a MUSIC event ... :rolleyes:

She looks so bored. You have branded material, that is not showing the branding fully on her... What exactly were you thinking you were going to convey with this image? Given that you have greek letters in your "gear" I am guessing that this is for a college event? Maybe ask them for help with set design next time? What are full vodka bottles and cups on the ground supposed to convey? Everyone came over, took a cup, and tossed them on the ground? Why is she flipping us off? To make her seem harder to get? Then why does she look like she is offering us the booze? This whole image seems lazy and poorly thought out. If you want to show us a hot girl, great, you did it. If you are trying to do anything beyond that, I think you were pretty lazy and really failed in that sense.

Well, to be fair I think we're probably seeing the photograph out of the context that it's going to be published in. It probably makes more sense in context.

I don't really have a problem with the pose or the composition. Yeah, maybe she looks *slightly* bored but who knows, maybe she's not a professional model and doesn't know how to pose correctly. Technically, I think the only problem is the blown out window which is distracting but, in my opinion, doesn't ruin the shot.

Edit: Reading back through the critiques, I guess I am less discerning than most in here.

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