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cobalt impurity
Apr 23, 2010

I hope he didn't care about that pizza.

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:


I'm thinking about taking a picture of my collection (40+ pens, minus 4 Mabie Todds that are out being repaired). Any interest? I don't want to flood the thread with pictures no-one cares about.


I've got writing samples too, but they're in a notebook I'd have to scan.

:justpost:

I love seeing people's collections! There's no reason this thread can't have a little pen porn every once in a while. Show off what you have, talk about 'em if you want even!

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Captain Postal
Sep 16, 2007
Syringe filling just seems wrong. It's like one of those things where you put so much effort into doing something and say "hang on, it should be simpler than this". It's a pen, it shouldn't require all these extra accessories to do it right, unless you're using the syringe to just fill the whole pen body. Not a rational complaint, but still... :effort:


ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

Buy some ink-NIX, it's great at removing ink stains.

We used to have a similar problem in my industry with cleaning hands and they came out with the really powerful cleaner that worked wonders called MEK, and all the old timers started getting kidney and liver problems from the solvents being absorbed through their skin. I'd personally be cautious of any "wonder solvent" that works great on organic compounds, especially the ones that don't say how they work. I would stay away from that product (and any others like it) unless they are very clear about what the ingredients are and the ingredients are well studied.

Captain Postal fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Sep 18, 2013

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

Captain Postal posted:

We used to have a similar problem in my industry with cleaning hands and they came out with the really powerful cleaner that worked wonders called MEK, and all the old timers started getting kidney and liver problems from the solvents being absorbed through their skin.

MEK is not uncommon in the vintage FP world, either since it can be used to mend cracks in, erm, either celluloid or acrylic, I can't recall right now. Got me a bottle in my little "home fixin' kit" next to the shellac and brass shims.

Note to self: don't drink alcohol after using MEK, yer liver's not that strong.



Pictures coming shortly; turns out I've got 43 fountain pens on hand and about 1 gram of photographic talent.

milpreve
Feb 29, 2012
I used my Preppy with HoD in a patient's file for the first time today, and my Metro with Mysterious Blue for the chart note. :D Switched to R&K Fernambuk for class tomorrow, but ink tests showed it to be less hot pink than it seemed online.

Is pen cleaning any different from filling and emptying the converter until water runs clear through?

Dad Hominem
Dec 4, 2005

Standing room only on the Disco Bus
Fun Shoe

milpreve posted:

Is pen cleaning any different from filling and emptying the converter until water runs clear through?

The feed on a Metro should come out with a gentle tug, and running that under the faucet for a bit should get rid of a lot of trapped ink.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

All right! Here's part 1 of my little collection, along with labels so I can wax melodic about each one. Those of you who are on FPN or other FP boards may be able to work out who I am since I have a couple of 'one of a kind' pens. I politely request that you not go all Internet Detective on me since I'm quite boring.

If you would like a better picture or more info about a pen, let me know and I'll see what I can do!

Batch 1. This is a melange of "pens I'm likely to get rid of soon," "non-flexies," and "in use":

  1. Sheaffer Craftsman. Touchdown (plunger) fill, open nib. As I've previously mentioned, I don't get along much with it but feel I 'need' it for a complete collection.
  2. Super fancy supermarchée pen: a Reynolds. I'll talk more about Reynolds on a later item.
  3. Cracked ice Conway-Stewart 27, owned by my grandfather. Lovely smooth nib, in a popular colour for collectors and with a wide gold band.
  4. Pelikan Pelikano from 1989. This was the sort of pen I used in school, though not the exact pen.
  5. Chinese made Cross Century II; an inferior version. Has a dent in the lid, which Cross refused to fix under their "lifetime" warranty.
  6. Peter Pan pen. The nib needs re-tipping, hence the label on the barrel.
  7. Custom-made celluloid by Shawn Newton; the first celluloid pen he ever made. The material is "purple web" and it looks boring unless it's in full light.
  8. Parker 45 flighter. One of my Dad's pens, I still have the box, warranty papers, and receipt from a stationery store in Bath. I believe he bought it in his last year of University or just after getting his degree.
  9. Chelpark piston-filler from India. I pulled out the flexish steel nib and swapped it with one from another pen.
  10. Esterbrook desk pen, red-tailed. An uncommon tail colour.
  11. Esterbrook desk pen, clear tailed.
  12. Esterbrook desk pen, black-tailed. Pen itself has a "State Farm Insurance" imprint.
  13. Parker '51 in a deep Burgundy, though the light makes it look red. Made in Newhaven in 1953, this was my step-grandfather's pen. The barrel was cracked, but I was lucky enough to source a replacement from 1954.
  14. Pilot 78G, black barrel, M nib. Originally glossy, I mattified the body with careful abrasion so now it doesn't show fingerprints.
  15. Mont Blanc Monte Rosa. One of my mother's school pens, the nib is 14C and capable of flex but the feed won't keep up. I have never seen another Monte Rosa in this model; usually they're older and have a gold-trimmed resin cap, or more recent and have a Parker 45 style hooded nib.
  16. Irish-made Cross Century II. An older version of number 5, with a gold nib and better-made overall. This pen was a graduation present from my grandmother.
  17. Conway-Stewart 58. Another of my grandfather's pens; I haven't used it since it returned from being restored but the nib is a Duro stub.
  18. Blue LAMY Safari. Another pen from my Dad, he bought this shortly before he was incapacitated.
  19. Red mottled Reynolds pen. Reynolds were a French pen brand, and their inexpensive stylo-plumes were my pen of choice in school. I could spend hours in the pen aisle of French supermarkets staring at all the pens on offer. I got rid of or lost all my fountain pens when I moved to the USA, and so had to seek out and buy replacements - at much higher prices, since they're no longer made.
  20. Flat-top Parker in "Black-Tipped Jade." This is from the year before Jade became an official colour in the Duofold range, so I can't rightly call it a Duofold. Currently inked with Squeteague; nice firm nib with a Lucky Curve feed.
  21. Waterman 21/2 V in black chased hard rubber (BCHR). Currently inked with Rohrer + Klingner Alt Bordeux. The nib gives good variation and the chasing and imprint are so crisp you could swear this pen was just made. Some bastard nicked the pressure bar, so it's been out of commission for a few months until I got a new one put in.

ChickenOfTomorrow fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Sep 18, 2013

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

Batch 2. Flexies.

  1. Esterbrook J, in a "root beer" brown. The nib is a 2048 Flexible Extra Fine Falcon, hence the weird shape/look. Esterbrook renew-point nibs are steel, so even the ones labeled "flexible" won't approach the flex of a good vintage gold nib; it's nicer feeling than the Noodlers flex nibs, though.
  2. My first restoration, a "Nova" pen most likely made by Mentmore. One of the fins is broken off the feed, so I don't flex it much when I use it.
  3. Mabie Todd Swallow in BCHR with nickel hardware. The barrel has a crack, which is a pain in the butt because hard rubber cracks can't really be fixed. One possible solution is to pop in a brass sleeve to reinforce it but since that's p expensive and the crack isn't in a load-bearing area I just pretend it doesn't exist. Should I ever want to sell it on I'd probably do the sleeving.
  4. Burgundy twist-fill Mabie Todd. Twist-filling died out pretty soon after it was introduced, and for good reason; filling with more than a mere dribble of ink requires slow and careful operation.
  5. Gold-filled Wahl in "Greek Key" design, with a #2 nib. This is a glorious pen, and if it weren't so gaudy it would be my daily user. The nib has incredible variation and snapback.
  6. Gold-filled Eclipse with a Twinpoint nib. The nib has a little crack above the breather hole so I don't push it.
  7. BCHR Eclipse, with a Pick nib. This is a Frankenpen, but the nib's a flexy stub so it's not the kind of unholy creation that gets hunted down by villagers armed with pitchforks.
  8. Aiken-Lambert "Lady Dainty" from Richard Binder's monthly pen tray. Snagging a pen from that tray is danged hard; you have to order within the first 3 minutes after it's posted or everything will have gone.
  9. British Parker Slimfold, from Newhaven. Either my grandmother or mother's pen, this came to me with a mangled nib that required some expert attention. Now it's a flex stub and a happy writer.
  10. Namiki Falcon, resin, soft medium.
  11. Conway-Stewart 58 in blue hatch. Another of my grandfather's pens, this one has the date of acquisition (June 1949) sellotaped onto the lid. During restoration I could have had the label removed, but it's been on there ever since my grandfather got the pen and the cellulose tape might have chemically bonded with the celluloid of the pen, or something.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

T-T-T-TRIPLE POST!!!

Batch 3. More flexies.

  1. Red mottled hard rubber (RMHR) pen, branded "Ty-phoo Tea For Indigestion." These pens were available by mail-order; all you had to do was send a few shillings and plus clippings from Typhoo containers. The nib, a 14k Warranted, is very fine and very flexible.
  2. BCHR Ty-phoo tea pen, with a silver accommodation clip. The underside is very browned, most likely due to storage in a damp area. Again, a 14k warranted nib that's small in size but very flexible.
  3. Waterman 3, from Canada. The first owner of this pen took off the newer-style clip and replaced it with the clip from a Waterman 33. The nib's a nicely-behaved flexible Ideal.
  4. Peter Pan pen. Unlike the blue one, this one has a fully functional nib.
  5. RMHR/woodgrain Waterman's 42 1/2V. Small, pretty, flexible, woodgrain.
  6. Pick pen. Pretty much an exact copy of the Pick pen that gave its nib to the Eclipse in an earlier post, this was a Greg Minuskin purchase. Purchasing from Minuskin, like Binder, is more competition than consumerism.
  7. Eyedropper-fill Chelpark with an Indian steel "flex" nib (like the Noodlers flex nibs).
  8. Noodler's Konrad in Narwhal.
  9. Purple Reynolds pen (a sibling to the red Reynolds posted in an earlier batch), with a steel "flex" nib.
  10. BCHR "Higbee Company" pen. May have been made by Mabie Todd.
  11. RMHR Waterman 12 eyedropper with a slip cap.

And finally, some glamour shots:


ephphatha
Dec 18, 2009




Captain Postal posted:

Syringe filling just seems wrong. It's like one of those things where you put so much effort into doing something and say "hang on, it should be simpler than this". It's a pen, it shouldn't require all these extra accessories to do it right, unless you're using the syringe to just fill the whole pen body. Not a rational complaint, but still... :effort:

I find syringe filling so much faster, easier, and cleaner than trying to draw ink through the nib. Usually end up with a bit of mixed ink for the first few paragraphs if you're lazy like I am and don't clean the nib between inks but you find some nice combinations that way. Plus syringes are cheap, mine cost a dollar from the local pharmacy.

kim jong-illin
May 2, 2011
Just buy a box of disposable latex or nitrile gloves. I glove up when I'm filling my pens through the nib, wipe down the grip and then toss the tissue and the gloves. Fully filled, clean pen plus clean fingers.

djinndarc
Dec 20, 2012

"I'm Bender, baby, please insert liquor!"
I have mainly used Noodler's inks, but have begun to branch out a bit into the Pilot/Namiki Iroshizuku inks, as I have acquired a few more pilot pens.

Are there any of the Iroshizuku's that are well behaved enough to use on regular, cheap paper?

Kessel
Mar 6, 2007

wodan22 posted:

I have mainly used Noodler's inks, but have begun to branch out a bit into the Pilot/Namiki Iroshizuku inks, as I have acquired a few more pilot pens.

Are there any of the Iroshizuku's that are well behaved enough to use on regular, cheap paper?

The brown/red colours tend to feather less on cheap paper, and conversely the blue-blacks feather more, in my experience.

GabrielAisling
Dec 21, 2011

The finest of all dances.

kim jong-illin posted:

Just buy a box of disposable latex or nitrile gloves. I glove up when I'm filling my pens through the nib, wipe down the grip and then toss the tissue and the gloves. Fully filled, clean pen plus clean fingers.

The vinyl gloves at hardware stores like Harbor Freight are cheaper than the medical-grade stuff that you find at Walmart. I've got a box that I initially bought for hand-dying yarn. I'm pretty hard on them since they mostly get used as disposable dish gloves, and I've never broken one, just in case anyone is worried about cheap gloves breaking easily.

aldantefax
Oct 10, 2007

ALWAYS BE MECHFISHIN'
I'm going to a pen posse in San Francisco this Sunday! I'm not sure what to expect other than maybe someone from this thread showing up. I'm going to eat a bunch of Chinese food.

Verdugo
Jan 5, 2009


Lipstick Apathy

aldantefax posted:

I'm going to a pen posse in San Francisco this Sunday! I'm not sure what to expect other than maybe someone from this thread showing up. I'm going to eat a bunch of Chinese food.

It's funny. I don't live in San Fransisco (or anywhere close) and I am a member of that group on facebook. There are some nice pens featured there, especially the custom ones.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"
:toot::birddrugs::toot:

Thanks to the former iteration of this thread I've been carrying fountain pens for over a year now. I love it but have a few questions. My apologies as I'm sure this has been covered but I'm a little stumped if some of these issues are "normal."

I wear suits most days and match my pen because I have a very dull life. My collection is -

Lamy Safari EF, Lamy Safari F, Lamy Al-Star F, Retro 1951 Tornado F, and a Parker 51 Aeromatic that was my great grandfathers.

The two Lamy F pens work without a hitch. I'm still using pre-bought cartridges though because of an issue with the EF pen. I got a blunt syringe and some Private Reserve Ink and have attempted refilling the cartridge for the EF pen. I have so many drat issues getting that pen to run that I got a converter for it. Still, it's always jammed up. I've cleaned it, ran it under water, etc. Is it lovely ink or just the nature of an EF Lamy Safari?

My Tornado is awesome and I have successfully syringe filled the cartridge a few times. But almost any day I use it I have to run it under some water to get it started. Normally pens are only used once a week due to their rotation. Is this little bit of motivation with water normal when pens aren't used daily?

The Parker 51 Aeromatic of my great grandfather's is awesome but getting it started is way over my head. It's likely a second quarter 1948/1954 dated pen made in England. There might be some part mismatching. Getting it running is way the gently caress over my head and I don't want to hurt it. Anything of my great grandfather's is incredibly important to me. Any recommendations?

drat you all for this (compared to other pens) expensive hobby.

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.
My EF safari is fine when using various inks. You can try cleaning out the nib to make sure there isn't some buildup in there blocking ink flow.

Someone mentioned brass sheets in here before for cleaning the nib out manually. I usually make up a solution of ammonia in water to clean out the old ink in mine and then flush water through after that. Should help break up ink that's sticking around.

lady flash
Dec 26, 2007
keeper of the speed force
Also maybe swap nibs on one of the Fs with the EF. That will tell you if it's a nib issue or a pen issue. Nibs are cheap and if that's it and you can't get it fixed I'd just pick up another nib.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

Verdugo posted:

It's funny. I don't live in San Fransisco (or anywhere close) and I am a member of that group on facebook. There are some nice pens featured there, especially the custom ones.

Last time I went I sat near a dude talking about his custom Nakaya. He ordered a multiple-thousand-dollar pen, requests a kanji of his own name in maki-e, waits 6 months for it to be completed, and when he gets it the kanji is 5 degrees off from the center of the zogon when the pen is assembled. In his eyes the pen is ruined.

ChickenOfTomorrow fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Sep 28, 2013

Kessel
Mar 6, 2007

Tell him he should buy another one.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

Spoiler: The next one will be off by 355 degrees.

jomiel
Feb 19, 2008

nya

aldantefax posted:

I'm going to a pen posse in San Francisco this Sunday! I'm not sure what to expect other than maybe someone from this thread showing up. I'm going to eat a bunch of Chinese food.

I'd love to come but for some strange reason I'm always busy the day that they pick. Maybe next time we can have a goon meet up :)


e: Sweet pens, Chicken of Tomorrow!!

jomiel fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Sep 19, 2013

Verdugo
Jan 5, 2009


Lipstick Apathy

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

Last time I went I sat near an ac-tor dude talking about his custom Nakaya for 45 minutes. He ordered a multiple-thousand-dollar pen, requests a kanji of his own name in maki-e, waits 6 months for it to be completed, and when he gets it the kanji is 5 degrees off from the center of the zogon when the pen is assembled. This is the worst thing ever and the pen is :krakken:ruined:krakken:.

Maybe it's a good thing then. Most expensive pen I have right now is an Ahab :)

milpreve
Feb 29, 2012

Verdugo posted:

Maybe it's a good thing then. Most expensive pen I have right now is an Ahab :)

I got a compliment on my oh-so-expensive Metro. But one day I'm getting a Sailor, so...

Kolodny
Jul 10, 2010

GrAviTy84 posted:

Speaking of cheap pens. I bought one of these a few days ago. Will trip report when it comes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310502449538?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

I was bored and it was $4, so I figured why not. It's a bit scratchy and the ink bubbles at the nib (not so much that it gets in the way), but it's ok for a cheap pen.

Filled with Noodler's Bulletproof Black, standard piston converter.


Here it is alongside a couple of my other pens, a TWSBI 580 and Lamy Safari, both F.


And a writing check with my horrible handwriting:

Teach
Mar 28, 2008


Pillbug

wodan22 posted:

Are there any of the Iroshizuku's that are well behaved enough to use on regular, cheap paper?

Oddly enough, I just popped into this thread to report that I just this afternoon found a bottle of Pilot IroShizuku Yama-Guri, which is a deep brown, and to my eyes, much darker than the swatch in the pic below.


Tomorrow, I'll run it over the cheapest paper I can find and let you know.

Edmond Dantes
Sep 12, 2007

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Those Iroshizuku bottles are pure sex.

Xun
Apr 25, 2010

Any suggestions for a good slim pen? I'm thinking about moving up from my safari at some point but a lot of the suggested ones look too fat for my tiny rear end hands :(

404notfound
Mar 5, 2006

stop staring at me

Xun posted:

Any suggestions for a good slim pen? I'm thinking about moving up from my safari at some point but a lot of the suggested ones look too fat for my tiny rear end hands :(

Probably can't get much slimmer than the Lamy CP1 or Logo, which are barely thicker than the converter itself. I don't like the balance of my CP1 when posted, though, since the cap is all metal and only posts about a centimeter, which makes the pen really long and back-heavy. Otherwise, it's perfectly fine.

Teach
Mar 28, 2008


Pillbug


Dad Hominem
Dec 4, 2005

Standing room only on the Disco Bus
Fun Shoe

Xun posted:

Any suggestions for a good slim pen? I'm thinking about moving up from my safari at some point but a lot of the suggested ones look too fat for my tiny rear end hands :(

Sailor Chalana?

Welsper
Jan 14, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Xun posted:

Any suggestions for a good slim pen? I'm thinking about moving up from my safari at some point but a lot of the suggested ones look too fat for my tiny rear end hands :(

A Pilot Capless Decimo might be suitable. It's a smaller/thinner version of the Pilot Vanishing point and uses the same nib units.

Vitamins
May 1, 2012


Xun posted:

Any suggestions for a good slim pen? I'm thinking about moving up from my safari at some point but a lot of the suggested ones look too fat for my tiny rear end hands :(

As for vintage stuff, the Sheaffer Targa is pretty drat slim, and the Sheaffer Targa Slim is even thinner than that, not to mention a bit cheaper.

iostream.h
Mar 14, 2006
I want your happy place to slap you as it flies by.

Xun posted:

Any suggestions for a good slim pen? I'm thinking about moving up from my safari at some point but a lot of the suggested ones look too fat for my tiny rear end hands :(
I really love my Faber Castell Ambition. It's balanced incredibly well too.

Edmond Dantes
Sep 12, 2007

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The Lamy CP1 is small, thin but quite hefty for its size. I'm loving it so far.

PlushCow
Oct 19, 2005

The cow eats the grass

Meldonox posted:

Diamine Ancient Copper is also worth trying out. One of my favorites for sure.

My TWISBI 580 F came in and I bought this ink, it's great - a nice copper color, flows well, dries quick and there's no feathering using it in my moleskine notebook. The 580 feels a lot nicer in my hand than my Safari, very happy with it. The pen looks like it's filled with blood though :tinfoil:

milpreve
Feb 29, 2012
I know that you have all broken me my wallet because, looking at my inks, my first thought is 'I need more pens.' But when I start looking, I inevitably click to inks as well.

Question about the Lamy bottles' blotting paper. What do you use it for? Is it to wipe off your nib after filling?

milpreve fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Sep 21, 2013

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill
Just back from my first transatlantic flight with real pens. I took two -- TWSBI Diamond Mini (filled with Iroshizuku Tsukushi) and Pelikan M205 (Diamine Sherwood Green). Can't have too many diminutive piston fillers!

Filled them both right up before setting out, to avoid problems with pressure changes, and they didn't even get any ink in the caps. I filled out my customs declaration with the TWSBI, which worked beautifully at altitude.

So that's one more situation where the biro is redundant.

Soricidus fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Sep 21, 2013

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

milpreve posted:

Question about the Lamy bottles' blotting paper. What do you use it for? Is it to wipe off your nib after filling?

Exactly. It's not really proper blotting paper, it's more like absorbent nib wiping sheets for after a fill.

If you want proper blotting paper in usable size sheets, J. Herbin make some, and Richard Binder throws a promotional blotter (complete with cheesecake art) in with every purchase. Alternatively, ask TCC - I bet they know where to get quality blotter.


Edit: Pen Posse tomorrow. It's a 1hr+ schlep for me to attend so I don't go to every meet, but I gather there'll be a newbie at this one.

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kim jong-illin
May 2, 2011
Just ordered a bottle of Iroshizuku Fuyu-Syogun, should be interesting to see how this compares to the Noodle's inks that made up 90% of my collection.

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