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Direwolf posted:If you're serious I might be interested in buying it! A good option for Infinity terrain that we found are those yellow plastic half-boxes that are used for wiring and conduit. You can find them in most construction material, electrician supply stores, in square, rectangular and circular shapes. They have gaps cut in to hold place for plugs that can easily become doors and windows, too. I'll take a few pics and post them up here soon so you guys have a better idea.    Sephyr fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Sep 18, 2013 |
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Yeah I'm going to back the Lasiq rag, those models are awful, they pack the one in the starterbox just to get rid of the model because it doesn't sell, because it totally isn't ridiculously powerful and I don't at all wake up screaming because of that Climbing Plus, X-Visor, Viral Sniper Rifle wielding rear end in a top hat. Edit: Guys, I've added a New Player List Building Guide to the OP but here is a link for those interested, it's a great post from a buddy of mine and it's a very helpful tool for newer players. http://infinitythegame.com/forum/in...-not-your-list/ E: Added ALEPH to OP, also fleshed out PanO and YJ a bit and reworded a few sentences. Only three left to go and then I'll add some gameplay stuff for them. Although I think that part is actually less important because of how versatile the factions are in Infinity. Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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I just had a really evil thought. ITS scenarios give you access to a 12 XP Spec-Ops trooper. I play on ridiculous urban terrain. Super-jump costs only 4 XP. Haqq can field a Muyib-based Spec-Ops with Super-Jump, Specialist Troop, BS 14, WIP 15, and the standard Muyib loadout of Rifle + LSG, Panzerfaust, D-Charges, and Dogged. e: I kinda want the upcoming Hassassin Spec-Ops miniature now. Corbeau fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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That's old news. No one expects a Super-Jumping HMG in a Shasvastii link. Or a Holo1 "Charontid" minelayer "LT" (actually the 65 extra points go towards a Sphinx). Or... you know the drill. And the Muyib/Hafza Spec Op base is bullshit. I want a Caliban Spec Op so I can take it deployed 
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Well my previous thought was to use a Hafza base Spec Op with Chain of Command to back up Saladin (and attempt to disguise my Ragik points), but then I decided to cut Sally. Super-Jump seems much better when it's not on Khwarij.
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Because it's on a Vector Op then  what's wrong with Khawarij?
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Finally got to play a couple games last night. Nice to see that problems can still be solved with HMG fire. Kinda sorta screwed myself by forgetting that Doctors are not Specialists in ITS missions, come list-writing time.
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It's easy to forget that when you have a whole 1 doctor, which is also an engineer You might still need them for the extra objectives.
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Pierzak posted:what's wrong with Khawarij? No Dogged/NWI/2W, no anti-armor weapons, and no objective-qualifying loadout. A Muyib-based spec op has Dogged, can threaten armor with the Panzerfaust, and qualifies for both main objectives by being a specialist and sabotage objectives by packing D-Charges. Kind of a huge difference there.
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My favorite cheap-shot spec op is a 15 WIP -9 BTS Celestial Guard Gui Feng with a hacking device and still xp left over~
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Pierzak posted:It's easy to forget that when you have a whole 1 doctor, which is also an engineer I was running three doctors because I wanted the most dangerous force in the universe.
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Fix posted:I was running three doctors because I wanted the most dangerous force in the universe.
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Pierzak posted:PanOceania? Ariadna. A vet, a Kazak, and a 112.
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Ugh, played four games tonight and did quite badly in all of them, only one of which went to plan. I really, really struggle playing Bakunin in comparison to Corregidor, PanO, MO or NCA. I think I need to make some additional purchases to give me more options. I'm currently running 4x Rev Moira, 5x Riot Grrl, Custodier, Sin Eater, Zero, Prowler, Lunokhod and 3x Moderators. I'm thinking of picking up a Uberfall box and maybe maxing out my Moderators. What do you guys suggest? E: Also Atlanata REALLY does not like it when you catch her and her Spotbot within an E/Mauler. I did giggle a bit as my Zero scampered off and recamo'd up. That was quite funny. I threw another one to cock-block Achillies too. Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Maxing out on moderators would probably be good. Are you finding moiras or riot grrls more useful in their roles? Prefer custodiers over moiras myself from what I've seen but I'm no Bakunin expert.
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How many Morlocks? VVV: Well, that's your problem right there 
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Pierzak posted:How many Morlocks? Tardscream posted:Maxing out on moderators would probably be good. Are you finding moiras or riot grrls more useful in their roles? Prefer custodiers over moiras myself from what I've seen but I'm no Bakunin expert.
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Only a handful! join today with a starterbox! 
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I've played two and have half my CA starter painted. Hope to get some more in soon!
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The rest of the jargon comes basically with time over games then buddy. No fear and never be afraid to ask questions.
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So what do you guys think are the least frequently played factions/sectorials? It seems like JSA and PanO in general are the most widely owned/played.
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There is no meta. Or rather local metas vary wildly. In my neighborhood there's a shitload of Ariadna/Haqq players, with some Corregidor lemmings emerging and a tiny bit of everything else. As for sectorials, I'd say ISS and Hassassins are the least popular. VVV: The gently caress? Everyone and their mother plays QK. It's like 95% of Haqq players. Pierzak fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Sep 20, 2013 |
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Pierzak posted:
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Pierzak posted:There is no meta. Or rather local metas vary wildly. In my neighborhood there's a shitload of Ariadna/Haqq players, with some Corregidor lemmings emerging and a tiny bit of everything else.
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Flipswitch posted:Ugh, played four games tonight and did quite badly in all of them, only one of which went to plan. I really, really struggle playing Bakunin in comparison to Corregidor, PanO, MO or NCA. I think I need to make some additional purchases to give me more options. I'm currently running 4x Rev Moira, 5x Riot Grrl, Custodier, Sin Eater, Zero, Prowler, Lunokhod and 3x Moderators. I'm thinking of picking up a Uberfall box and maybe maxing out my Moderators. What do you guys suggest? As Pierzak said, Morlocks are pretty great. Of the seven point chain rifle variety. With markers on the moderators, it can also be really easy to add a Vertigo zond (and maybe a Reeaktion zond for protection) and go the dirty nomad route. Making the zero a hacker can also help in that respect - combat camo hacking is great. I love me some Bakunin, but have ever been too excited about Morias or Grrls. I prefer putting more models on the board, saving the elite, expensive models for Corregidor. Max moderators are a must for a decent and cheap link team. Make sure you have a spitfire in there!
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Germ posted:As Pierzak said, Morlocks are pretty great. Of the seven point chain rifle variety. With markers on the moderators, it can also be really easy to add a Vertigo zond (and maybe a Reeaktion zond for protection) and go the dirty nomad route. Making the zero a hacker can also help in that respect - combat camo hacking is great. I love me some Bakunin, but have ever been too excited about Morias or Grrls. I prefer putting more models on the board, saving the elite, expensive models for Corregidor. Max moderators are a must for a decent and cheap link team. Make sure you have a spitfire in there! Riot Grrls are very cost-efficient when it comes to HI, though! I've been tempted to get one for my vanilla list to get a 2-wound blunt instrument and not have to rely so much on finesse.
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Does anyone use/face linked Suryats? I never used them before Paradiso, and when they got cheaper/weaker I find them kinda... meh. They do have fun options though, is Raktorak/combi+LFT/HRL/Vulkan really worth taking an otherwise unremarkable HI link, or am I missing something important?
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I've faced Suryats a few times, they're a decently mobile team with decent armour and BTS values and a good BS, but that's it. They're pretty vanilla though. No idea on Raktorak though, not seen him on the table, ever.Germ posted:As Pierzak said, Morlocks are pretty great. Of the seven point chain rifle variety. With markers on the moderators, it can also be really easy to add a Vertigo zond (and maybe a Reeaktion zond for protection) and go the dirty nomad route. Making the zero a hacker can also help in that respect - combat camo hacking is great. I love me some Bakunin, but have ever been too excited about Morias or Grrls. I prefer putting more models on the board, saving the elite, expensive models for Corregidor. Max moderators are a must for a decent and cheap link team. Make sure you have a spitfire in there!
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I think the new suryats are terrific. Got narrowly beaten by a team of 4+kornak last month. They are now flexible and cheap enough to be a viable link, with raktoraks/suryats. If a good mate didn't have them already, I would be a space monkey player. Awesome, awesome options in the new book. Stoked to see their rejuvenation a la Corregidor. I think a few chain rifle (or assault pistol morlocks) are a good addition to any combat group. It should be possible to run a 2-group bakunin list at 300. Moderators x5 with an MSR are a great link in my book. Riot Grrls I have never played, but look good. The big thing for HI is that second wound. All other stat changes in Infinity tend to be incremental. One modifier band tends to be the difference between an elite and a joe for example. (-3 range, BS 11 vs 14. Cover +3 ARM, LI vs HI) But that second wound allows you to bull through ordinary AROs and accept risk. The second biggest thing, IMO is 4-4 movement. I do not think there is any troop in the game that I would not give -1 point of ARM to upgrade from 4-2 to 4-4. Hell, maybe -2 ARM would be worth it. Example of a horde bakunin list. I love writing these, I really should play an army with warbands.  JURISDICTIONAL COMMAND OF BAKUNIN────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1   7  3  3 MODERATOR MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 23)MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9)MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9)MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9)MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9) MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (10)MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (10)MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (10) REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Marker / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 38) REVEREND MOIRA HMG / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 39)GROUP 2 6 4 4MODERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 16)MODERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 16)MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9)MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9)MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9)MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (10)MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (10) SIN-EATER MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 39)MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (7)MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (7)6 SWC | 298 Points Open with Army 4 Genghis Cohen fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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My god I am not a fan of that list, but then I've never been one to play horde lists. I'll probably pick up the Morlocks at some point in the future, for now I'm quite enjoying the new style of play even if it's wildly unpredictable in how its working, mostly list refinement I think. Here's a Q for people. I'm currently using MDP Resin bases for my Bakunin: http://www.modeldisplayproducts.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=38_51_58&product_id=169 I'm only using Bases 1, 2, 3, 4, & 5 at the moment though and haven't used any of the others yet but I was thinking of getting a set of these for my Corregidor and rebasing them: (they're just lightly glued onto proxy bases at the moment, regular 25mm) http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/tech-bases-round-25mm-p-674.html I don't think they look wildly different (painting jobs aside) what do you all think? worth sticking with one type, or picking up some of these? The riveted floor is approx same scale and the grating is the same sizes for the most part barring quality. What do you think? alternate is rebasing my current Bakunin but that seems like a lot of effort too. E: Ordered some for my Corregidor, two army projects, I never play vanilla Nomads anyway.  I DID however play some games this morning and kicked some xeno arse with Corregidor:  JURISDICTIONAL COMMAND OF CORREGIDOR────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 0 0 WILDCAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (19)WILDCAT (Number 2) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (20)WILDCAT Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)WILDCAT Boarding Shotgun, Flash Grenades, Deployable Repeater / Pistol, Knife. (19)WILDCAT Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (19) INTRUDER HMG, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 44)INTRUDER Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (36) IGUANA HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 73)IGUANA OPERATOR HMG / Pistol, Knife.  HELLCAT Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)HELLCAT Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (20)5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open with Army 4 I cannot wait to get my mitts on that Iguana, it does so much work for me in these lists it's unreal. It isn't quite any of my PanO TAGs, but then none of my PanO link teams are quite Wildcats either. So it balances. Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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Dark art miniatures does some reasonably priced bases of that sort as well: http://www.darkartminiatures.com/Sci-fi_Deck/cat1768315_1615215.aspx I have some of these alongside the excellent quality but more expensive dragonforge bases.
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I finally replaced my Zap-a-Gap supply and sorted around my basement to take stock of my miniatures. You know how I keep talking about how I've not played 300 points yet? I have no excuse. And that's just the stuff that I haven't assembled yet, much less the stuff waiting for paint. Planning to at least assemble a Ragik tonight. One step at a time, right? e: Really ought to get in on the oath thread, too. Maybe next month. Corbeau fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Sep 22, 2013 |
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Mmm, good progress tonight. So far have assembled a Ragik, a Naffatun, and a Muyib, plus have finished up painting another Naffatun. Planning to finish out the evening by basing my Kameel. That's not why I'm double-posting though. I assembled those minis for a reason. I have a list planned for tomorrow's arranged 250pt ITS-scenario spec-ops-allowed game. HAQQISLAM────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 1 0 ASAWIRA Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 59) RAGIK Hacker (Hacking Device) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0.5 | 42) BARID Hacker (Hacker Device) Lieutenant Rifle + Marker / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 26) ODALISQUE Submachine gun, Contender, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (25) HUSAM Rifle + Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (25) // Muyib base with Super-Jump, Hacking Device, Mimetism, and +1 BS. HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24) KAMEEL (EVO Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 13) NAFFATÛN Rifle + Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (12)NAFFATÛN Rifle + Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (12)NAFFATÛN Rifle + Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (12)5 SWC | 250 Points Open with Army 4 My opponent generally plays ALEPH and likes to bring remotes and/or a TAG. This will be my first time using Airborne Deployment, but I'm hoping the EVO Repeater allows for pinpoint high-power hacking if necessary. And hey, even if that's not so useful, this way I can airdrop a hacker onto objectives. The downside is that my Lt. is super-obvious and will probably be a target even if my opponent doesn't realize he's my only fielded Lt. option, which is also something I've never tried before. Hoping the Oda is an effective bodyguard. I've had this general strategy in mind for what feels like forever, but until now have never assembled the miniatures to actually do it. e: Testing IA instead of Army 4:  Haqqislam | 10 models________________________________________________________  Asawira Spitfire (59|2) Ragik Hacker (42|0.5) Barid H+Lt (26|1) Husam Panzerfaust (+1 bs, CH: Mimetism, Hacker (Hacking Device), Super-Jump) (25|0.5|12xp) Odalisque Smg (25|0) Hunzakut FO (24|0.5) Kameel EVO (13|0.5) Naffatun HFT (12|0) Naffatun HFT (12|0) Naffatun HFT (12|0)________________________________________________________ 250/300 points | 5/6 swc open with Aleph Toolbox  : http://goo.gl/Y3reahMuch better. Corbeau fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Sep 22, 2013 |
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Yeah if it's a concern, Hafzas are great options. If not and you're more likely to keep your hacker back, the Barid isn't too shabby either. Combining Hacker and Lt orders are very tasty though. e: Two lists to start playing, eventually I'll have to morph them into Paradiso lists, but I think these look good.: JURISDICTIONAL COMMAND OF BAKUNIN ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 1 1REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Marker / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 38)REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Rifle + E/M Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1 | 45)REVEREND MOIRA HMG / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 39)REVEREND MOIRA Combi Rifle + E/Mitter / Pistol, CCW. (30)SIN-EATER Mk12 / Pistol, CCW. (29) ZERO (Deployable Repeater) E/Mauler, Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)ZERO Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (18) PROWLER Spitfire, D-Charges / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 37) CHIMERA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Zero-V Smoke Grenades / Viral CCW. (24)3x PUPNIK DA CCW.  SALYUT (EVO Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 13)6 SWC | 297 Points Open with Army 4 JURISDICTIONAL COMMAND OF CORREGIDOR────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 0 0WILDCAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (19)WILDCAT (Number 2) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (20)WILDCAT Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)WILDCAT Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (19)WILDCAT Engineer Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (23)INTRUDER HMG, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 44)IGUANA HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 73)IGUANA OPERATOR HMG / Pistol, Knife. HELLCAT Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (24)HELLCAT Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25) TOMCAT Doctor Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower + 1 Zondcat / Pistol, Knife. (28) ZONDCAT Electric Pulse. 5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open with Army 4 Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Sep 22, 2013 |
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I played two games today and learnt a hell of a lot. One of those things is that Penthesilea is an absolute murder machine. In one game she killed two Tiger Soldiers, a Zhanshi, a Celestial Guard and a Dao Fen(?) - some kind of big cheese Yu Jing HI. Mostly because bike movement and being impetuous make it very easy to take the long route round, avoiding AROs and then double-tapping with a Contender. I didn't even get to try her CC18 Monofilament CCW with i-Kohl 2, but I can imagine that's pretty tasty too. That was after paradropping Tiger soldiers survived around 12 AROs each over two turns to calmly walk along a ledge and nail my Myrmidon Lt. The first game was a good lesson in how getting cocky can turn the game about quickly; I had a strong position set up with an airdropped Garuda threatening a lot of stuff, but a mad Teutonic Knight ran up and shot a panzerfaust into its face. Then everything fell apart as one Order Sergeant killed a Myrmidon and all my Dakinis.
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