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A good rough estimate I use is that your minimum w2 salary should be about half what you're billed at, hourly, times 1k in the USA. So if you're being billed at $100/hr, you should be making more than $50k/yr. To those that think the number is high, you've got taxes, SS, insurance, vacation, 401k matching, bonuses, internal chargebacks for equipment/office space, non-billable overhead like HR, and normal profit margins - it all adds up. It's common to be paid more in small subcontractors with low overhead or larger companies providing support services. If you're less? You're being underpaid and/or oversold. Bhodi fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Sep 22, 2013 |
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Bhodi posted:A good rough estimate I use is that your minimum w2 salary should be about half what you're billed at, hourly, times 1k in the USA. So if you're being billed at $100/hr, you should be making more than $50k/yr. That might be true for just the right job in just the right kind of shop. But if you look at the vast differences in shops, services provided, and billing methods across all of the things you could be billed out as an employee for it's pretty short sighted to think one formula can apply to all situations. How much you cost the shop compared to your value is going to be wildly different if you are say, doing break/fix repair, sitting on a site for 6 months at a time stealing people's money pretending that SAP can ever be made to work properly, or spending 3 days specing out a network configuration or doing a site survey for a customer at a VAR that makes their real money on sales.
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Without being too specific, I'll be working on, - System I; in SysAdmin Role (Upgrading Software,Upgrading Hardware - no COBOL Programming) - Managed Services; supporting hundreds of various small businesses in whatever they need in a Windows Environment Gucci Loafers fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Sep 23, 2013 |
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This is turning into a cul-de-sac. Who are you trying to negotiate a salary with? I posted a link every 5 pages or so in the last thread - it ended up in the OP: http://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/ - if I end up accepting the job I'm currently in discussion on - and I get what I'm asking for, that article will have resulted in me going from 50K/year to 175K/year in under 24 months. Thanks to it, I busted 100K last year. While I realize my story is purely anecdotal, I strongly recommend reading it. EDIT: Calendar math is hard! Feral Bueller fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Sep 23, 2013 |
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Sarcasmatron posted:This is turning into a cul-de-sac. Who are you trying to negotiate a salary with? Hah - I remember reading that a long time ago, I'll go through it again.
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I sometimes have a ton of free time at work. Anyone have any suggestions on educational things I can be doing online? I'm playing around with tryruby right now, but I'm new enough to IT that almost anything is new cool and exciting.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I sometimes have a ton of free time at work. Learn Linux Start playing with VirtualBox or VMware Learn PowerShell scripting in Windows Web programming in whatever language you want (PHP, Ruby, .NET, Python, who cares just loving pick one) That will get you into SQL databases as well as HTML/CSS Javascript is fun and you can start typing it right into Firefox/Chrome
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I sometimes have a ton of free time at work. This is helpful if you want to teach yourself coding, database, and web stuff: http://www.bentobox.io
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Anyone headed to Velocity or DevOpsDays in NYC the week of the 14th? I'll be at both.
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Helpdesk guys and our IT director are getting their morning yucks berating users this fine Monday morning. A user is asking why our email solution is so convulted (pop3 only, Outlook forwarding to external accounts if you want mail on your tablet, remove via VPN only, etc) YOU WANT ME TO MANAGE YOUR EMAIL FOR YOU? SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT SHIFT-ALT-DELETE IS? HAHAHAHAAH loving tools.
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People like that are why I have to work so hard to get people to come to me with actual issues instead of ignoring them or finding poor workarounds. I hate how prevalent that attitude is in IT.
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Yeah I used to work for someone like that. It was embarrassing more than anything.
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The Third Man posted:People like that are why I have to work so hard to get people to come to me with actual issues instead of ignoring them or finding poor workarounds. I hate how prevalent that attitude is in IT. And then they wonder why people at some companies hate IT departments.
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Bhodi posted:A good rough estimate I use is that your minimum w2 salary should be about half what you're billed at, hourly, times 1k in the USA. So if you're being billed at $100/hr, you should be making more than $50k/yr. This is what I have been basing mine off. I am making $55 an hour now contracting in a position monumentally more difficult than the FT job I left @ $42 an hour - and the company is billing over $200 an hour for me. I am going to come in at $125 an hour on my contract renegotiation and work down from there. I figure I should be making at least 200k based on the scope of the work I'm doing and the billable hours. I was hoping I just could just drop the contract and bill directly through my own LLC but it doesn't look like I will be able to get on the approved vendors list.
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That new av.
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have a phone interview on Wednesday for a potentially very cool YOTJ. any advice? I think I'm pretty good on the phone. The position is in the technical project management department so I'm a little nervous on how deep they are going to go on the technical side vs just seeing that I can actually string two sentences together and such also for those of you on the fence about rewriting/updating your resume and using the goon service, i can highly recommend it. Pretty sure it's the reason I was able to get through the initial HR blocks and get this phone interview
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So I was reading this post in GiP and it blew my mind because this applies to so much poo poo in IT. The clearest example I've encountered was the implementation of our wireless network at my last job, where every executive knew a little bit about wireless (AKA magic that makes my iPad work) because they have a lovely consumer grade router in my house. What followed was basically exactly what's quoted in that post.
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That is incredible, and far too close to home. Thanks for posting it.
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e: 5k less than I'm making now? gently caress that noise. CloFan fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Sep 24, 2013 |
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CloFan posted:e: 5k less than I'm making now? gently caress that noise.
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Yeah- health/vision/dental are nearly identical plans, would be cheaper at uni by about 40 bucks a check. Time off and stress level would be significantly improved. I'm going to stick with the bank for a while longer, get them to pay for some certs and experience, then look for something not in financial services.
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Is there no chance of a counter offer, either on straight salary or other benefits?
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CloFan posted:Yeah- health/vision/dental are nearly identical plans, would be cheaper at uni by about 40 bucks a check. Time off and stress level would be significantly improved. I'm going to stick with the bank for a while longer, get them to pay for some certs and experience, then look for something not in financial services. Did they offer X credit hours per semester for yourself or immediate family? Or do you live in a country where you don't have to mortgage yourself for the next 30 years for a degree so that's not a thing...?
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Geoj posted:Did they offer X credit hours per semester for yourself or immediate family? Or do you live in a country where you don't have to mortgage yourself for the next 30 years for a degree so that's not a thing...? I think only private universities do that.
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Malkar posted:I think only private universities do that. My current employer (A university) offers 50% reduced tuition, so you may be correct.
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Docjowles posted:Is there no chance of a counter offer, either on straight salary or other benefits? Nope, not here. Budgetary restraints-- they aren't just telling me that, either. I used to work there as a student, and in the interview they said it was mine if I wanted it. I told them I couldn't at that pay, so the director asked HR if he had any wiggle room at all and got shut down. "Maybe when the budget renews next July.." but I couldn't get that in writing. Geoj posted:Did they offer X credit hours per semester for yourself or immediate family? Or do you live in a country where you don't have to mortgage yourself for the next 30 years for a degree so that's not a thing...? I could take one class on the clock per semester free of charge, and immediately family gets $10/class tuition. Really a great deal.. if me and my wife hadn't already graduated. Just for some numbers, I'd be going from 30k at the bank (significant raise/promotion imminent) to 24k. Wife and I are building a house, so it's just not going to be possible at this juncture. CloFan fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Sep 25, 2013 |
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CloFan posted:I could take one class on the clock per semester free of charge, and immediately family gets $10/class tuition. Really a great deal.. if me and my wife hadn't already graduated. Masters? getting an MBA on the clock sounds great
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Malkar posted:I think only private universities do that. I know in my state (Ohio) its fairly common - my grandmother worked in the dining hall at a state school and put my father and three uncles through college for free, and more recently (past 10 years) one of my aunts worked in the dining hall at another state school and one of my cousins was able to finish her degree for free.
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Malkar posted:I think only private universities do that. My grandfather was a professor at a public university, and even after he retired my mom was able to get discounted tuition because of it. My aunt works there now and my cousins also get discounted tuition. Well, not the one who's in medical school, but that's a bit different.
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I am in school now for the final attempt at my degree after changing majors a few times. There's a bunch of e/n stuff in there but I'm about to hit 26 with no real career plan for the rest of my life. I expect to graduate next fall with a degree in Info Systems. Some of the courses I'm taking I haven't enjoyed but I have found that while not too proficient yet, I have been enjoying my basic programming class which is going over HTML/CSS and soon JavaScript. My question is what can/should I focus on outside of school or a good place to learn more on these. I've already found w3school and had a brief look at it. Are there more sites for web design and others like this for other languages? I do plan to go to the career center to see what sort of internship/careers I can make out of this.
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Anyone ever killed their boss and gotten away with it?
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CanUSayGym posted:I expect to graduate next fall with a degree in Info Systems. Got my degree in MIS, after looking at the job market, I ran far, far, far away and got into network engineering. e: drat phone Tasty Wheat fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Sep 25, 2013 |
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I need to update my resume in preparation for seeking a job in networking, and I'm wondering what is appropriate for me to put down as experience after I attained my CCNA, but do not have any real work experience in the field? I'm trying to move beyond basic helpdesk/faculty support at my university, so I got my CCNA to try and get my foot in the door, but now that it is time to get my resume out there, I'm not sure how to structure it. Is it fair for me to say I have experience/am familiar with with layer 2/3 routing protocols? How honest should I be without talking myself out of an interview?
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Bob Morales posted:Anyone ever killed their boss and gotten away with it? If they admitted to it here, they would be getting away with it....
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Bob Morales posted:Anyone ever killed their boss and gotten away with it? So do you regret leaving web development?
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Bob Morales posted:Anyone ever killed their boss and gotten away with it? My old boss was fired 10 rather strained days later. So, I didn't kill him. He just died shortly after I returned. 
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I sometimes have a ton of free time at work. codeacademy.com has been great for me to pass some free time at work, while actully learning something 
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CanUSayGym posted:I am in school now for the final attempt at my degree after changing majors a few times. There's a bunch of e/n stuff in there but I'm about to hit 26 with no real career plan for the rest of my life. I expect to graduate next fall with a degree in Info Systems. Some of the courses I'm taking I haven't enjoyed but I have found that while not too proficient yet, I have been enjoying my basic programming class which is going over HTML/CSS and soon JavaScript. My question is what can/should I focus on outside of school or a good place to learn more on these. I've already found w3school and had a brief look at it. Are there more sites for web design and others like this for other languages? I do plan to go to the career center to see what sort of internship/careers I can make out of this. How much of computers do you do not in school? Do you host a website? Have you built a LAMP, or coded a website from the ground up? There is a bunch of opportunity out there, but it won't ask you. If you like it start tinkering around with webservers, wordpress/droopal development somewhat of a surprising need in my area. E: Think I might be visiting Charolette/Gastonia NC Mid OCT(25/26) if any goons want to meet up. Dinner and a drink or two is on me! Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Sep 26, 2013 |
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Ganon posted:So do you regret leaving web development? No, the extra $ makes it worth it, and I'm more marketable (in my area). I'm slowly getting big changes made (new internet provider, Exchange 2013 implantation, new VMware cluster in the spring) so I'm just going to suck it up and build some experience.
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