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General Olloth posted:this bothers me so god drat much HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\11.0\General DWORD: SuppressUppercaseConversion Value: 1
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Posting Principle posted:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\11.0\General from their blog post about it "we'll continue to allow you to change it as an option" (with a registry edit) it's almost kinda genius
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Sep 24, 2013 23:09
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Posting Principle posted:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\11.0\General lol thanks for reminding me the registry exists
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Sep 24, 2013 23:11
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Posting Principle posted:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\11.0\General this was a backdoor feature implemented by one of the devs, it's kind of awesome that that kind of thing still flies around here
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Sep 24, 2013 23:24
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some chucklefuck in CSC made a group policy setting that disables tab-completion in cmd.exe for some god-forsaken reason had to go into the registry to reverse it
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Sep 24, 2013 23:24
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One very nice side effect of using a Mac at work is IT can't touch you. Eat poo poo domain admins, I'm going to set my wallpaper to whatever I want.
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Sep 25, 2013 01:18
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Nomnom Cookie posted:One very nice side effect of using a Mac at work is IT can't touch you. Eat poo poo domain admins, I'm going to set my wallpaper to whatever I want. I was your worst enemy 2 years ago
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Sep 25, 2013 01:20
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Casper + Open Directory I'll gently caress your poo poo up
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Sep 25, 2013 01:20
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i have some notes tucked away where i was pushing binaries and configs into base64, making payloads with them and deploying the payloads with scripts on user login and using OD to suppress control over tons of things and when OD/Casper wouldn't let me do it i'd just figure out which plist it was and stop the user from being able to gently caress with it anyways do you even osx im probably like 1 of 20 people on this awful earth who managed huge osx domains effectively
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Sep 25, 2013 01:22
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Bring it on, bitch. First one to set the wallpaper for a week straight wins.
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Sep 25, 2013 01:35
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Nomnom Cookie posted:One very nice side effect of using a Mac at work is IT can't touch you. Eat poo poo domain admins, I'm going to set my wallpaper to whatever I want. lol you just work with incompetent sysadmins. I joined macs to the AD and exerted control because gently caress YOU doctor assfuck you have to comply with password policy because I do not like you.
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Sep 25, 2013 02:09
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Mido posted:i have some notes tucked away where i was pushing binaries and configs into base64, making payloads with them and deploying the payloads with scripts on user login and using OD to suppress control over tons of things and when OD/Casper wouldn't let me do it i'd just figure out which plist it was and stop the user from being able to gently caress with it anyways 
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Sep 25, 2013 02:11
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Morkai posted:lol you just work with incompetent sysadmins. I joined macs to the AD and exerted control because gently caress YOU doctor assfuck you have to comply with password policy because I do not like you. So in that situation should I remove my work Mac from the domain or bring my personal laptop to work? I'm comfortable with either option.
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Sep 25, 2013 02:14
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Nomnom Cookie posted:So in that situation should I remove my work Mac from the domain or bring my personal laptop to work? I'm comfortable with either option. if you're competent and they left you a local admin just leave the domain. again, lol at your sysadmins that let you accomplish this.
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Sep 25, 2013 02:17
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I was never in the domain.  Casper is installed though, no clue what it's for. Making sure I use my phone for porn I guess.
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Sep 25, 2013 02:20
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Nomnom Cookie posted:I was never in the domain. heh. wipe and restore from App Store or whatever Macs do to kick all their stupid poo poo off your drive and reset your password on schedule with OWA or whatever. laugh your way to the armory.
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Sep 25, 2013 02:28
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i started reading thru the frontend thread in cobol and dang i cant understand all that web stuff my eyes just start glazing
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Sep 25, 2013 02:31
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Morkai posted:lol you just work with incompetent sysadmins. MrMoo fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Sep 26, 2013 |
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Sep 25, 2013 03:01
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thats not too bad just coverin their asses
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Sep 25, 2013 03:05
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current matlab status: what the gently caress this is the worst poo poo i have ever seen objects can have methods except those methods are really just functions that don't know anything about the object they're being called on they actually just take the calling object as the first parameter (and you have to write this out explicitly) and any references to parameters of the object you're currently working on (if you were being really verbose in C# or java you'd say this) are with that name and you can't not use it also you can't mutate an object fullstop. everything is maximally pass-by-value, so when you call that method-thats-a-function, the object you're passing it isnt the calling object but instead a copy of it this is loving retarded
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Sep 25, 2013 04:24
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literally can't use getters and setters in this lang unless you wanna write like foo = foo.setFarts(Butt) this obviously gets comedy stupid when you want to add any levels of abstraction to anything like god forbid you have an object managing a collection of objects 
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Sep 25, 2013 04:25
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my stepdads beer posted:johny use postgres alright srschat im comin from a 'shadetree learning while writing goofy poo poo' perspective. sell me. how will postgres > mysql in this context is it because it is better at all levels, or because going any deeper in mysql would give me training in poo poo that doesnt earn a dude money
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Sep 25, 2013 04:27
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using them is indifferentiable if you are using an orm like you should be but sqlite is very bad for your cred also sqlite gets db locks with async requests but i'm also curious as to the answer to the question
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Sep 25, 2013 04:29
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this is why python numpy is a gift from gods, matlab is so drat awkward
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Sep 25, 2013 04:32
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suddenly the skills i picked up in my college's intro to oo programming class, which used java in a bizarro-functional/immutable way, will come in handy!!! apparently any time you would change an object you should discard it for a new one with whatever values changed!
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:using them is indifferentiable if you are using an orm like you should be but sqlite is very bad for your cred SQLite is single access only. Postgres actually obeys the SQL standard while MySQL will silently do it's own thing without warning you. Orms are overkill and u shouldn't use them unless u know how to write every line of SQL it would generate otherwise have fun debugging the inevitable object relational impedance mismatch Statement mappers are fine though I like mssql too but it costs money for the non crippled editions There's a video on how exactly MySQL will helpfully misinterpret your commands out there
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Sep 25, 2013 04:36
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it's not as bad as it used to be now that mysql doesn't default to myisam but postgresql generally has a better optimizer, more features of which I never use but maybe my orm does, and doesn't have the reputation of php
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i think i'm a little bit confused about what an orm does (it would probably be solved just by learning some sql which i should do at some point because it's not like it's hard). in rails with active record i still have to create the table and specify field names/datatypes. if i have an object of that type and it has an ivar that matches a field name it will be persisted but it's not like all ivars on an object get automatically mapped. i only have the data i actually want/need to store in the DB (which is one of shaggar's complaints i think). it just seems really unobtrusive. when people are talking about orms sometimes i get the feeling they're talking about something that takes an object that is in memory and automatically stores it to a db without any specifications (which would be stupid).
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Sep 25, 2013 04:51
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:i think i'm a little bit confused about what an orm does (it would probably be solved just by learning some sql which i should do at some point because it's not like it's hard). in rails with active record i still have to create the table and specify field names/datatypes. if i have an object of that type and it has an ivar that matches a field name it will be persisted but it's not like all ivars on an object get automatically mapped. i only have the data i actually want/need to store in the DB (which is one of shaggar's complaints i think). the one ive used is a java orm where you lightly specify in your objects how they'd be translated to a database with @annotations or whatever and then they automagically become database elements or some poo poo it was really really really painless and required literally zero thought or effort.
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Sep 25, 2013 05:01
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pass by reference supremacy
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:i think i'm a little bit confused about what an orm does (it would probably be solved just by learning some sql which i should do at some point because it's not like it's hard). in rails with active record i still have to create the table and specify field names/datatypes. if i have an object of that type and it has an ivar that matches a field name it will be persisted but it's not like all ivars on an object get automatically mapped. i only have the data i actually want/need to store in the DB (which is one of shaggar's complaints i think). yeah. its called object persistence. the idea is that the store doesn't matter you just tell the persistence API "hey store this object." or "hey give me the object with this parameter" and the persistence framework translates it to the underlying store. its nice for development speed, but there are two significant downsides. Performance can really suffer depending on the store and the objects you're using. ORMs tend to grab everything to do with an object, which isn't always right. They also can generate some really lovely data designs cause its centered around object storage instead of relational data design. The other downside is that it tends to tie your data to that application and if you want to share it with another application you probably cant if its too specific and if you want to report on it you have to do a bunch of work. At work we use a transactional model cause we literally get paid through reporting. We have a bunch of different apps that can all share the same core transaction design and then have individual related transaction tables with data specific to that app. So I can write procs that are reusable by all apps to generate common data, and then app specific procs to do more stuff. it makes our data really high quality which is far more important than maybe saving a few minutes of coding time.
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Shaggar posted:ORMs tend to grab everything to do with an object, which isn't always right. They also can generate some really lovely data designs cause its centered around object storage instead of relational data design. Yeah that sounds really different from active record which feels a lot more like a statement mapper. Maybe it can automagically persist objects but i've certainly never used it that way nor have i ever seen that recommended. i feel like i get to be pretty explicit about database design. To specify a one-to-many or many-to-many relationship i still have to add the necessary foreign keys to their respective tables. it will automatically do the table join after i've specified one to many in the DSL and but it wont work unless the correct keys are in place. honestly i'm just going to make the switch to raw sql if for no reason other than to know what i'm talking about
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Sep 25, 2013 05:21
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Jonny 290 posted:alright srschat both as an intro, the current state of sql is this: there are a bunch of sql servers, they're all blisteringly fast, and it's very possible to port code amongst them if you stick to a common subset of features. the same code will run with virtually no changes on ms sql, postgres, and oracle. (if you pay attention to concurrency it will work on ibm db2 also) mysql is the odd man out. you can't port to mysql, you can't port from mysql
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lastly, learning how to tune mysql's wretchedness just means spending more time with people who were too loving stupid to avoid mysql unless you're gonna be a mysql/postgres or mysql/oracle porting expert ABORT ABORT ABORT (this is also why i no longer write .NET code. C# is awesome, but writing for .NET puts you in contact with people/organisations so fuckin stupid they bought Windows and SharePoint)
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:Yeah that sounds really different from active record which feels a lot more like a statement mapper. Maybe it can automagically persist objects but i've certainly never used it that way nor have i ever seen that recommended. activerecord is the prototypical example of an ORM, with proxy objects for everything and almost no control over the generated sql. it is as far from a statement mapper (e.g. mybatis) as you can get statement mappers just return named (and possibly typed) data from an sql string you had to write yourself, by hand.
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Sep 25, 2013 05:44
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Jonny 290 posted:alright srschat both
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:activerecord is the prototypical example of an ORM, with proxy objects for everything and almost no control over the generated sql. it is as far from a statement mapper (e.g. mybatis) as you can get that's why i like orms
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Bloody posted:current matlab status: thirty year old proprietary language written to be little other than Not Fortran
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great chat. i originally set my scraper thing up with mysql because, well, free, linux, apt-get, done. however now that i have that little webui set up and the django bit is all working well, i can port over the db. postgres a not-stupid next step? im obviously not doing oracle or w/e for this free joke service
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Jonny 290 posted:i can port over the db. postgres a not-stupid next step? im obviously not doing oracle or w/e for this free joke service nope. its almost always a pain in the rear end
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