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The previous body style had a twincharged, intercooled 1 litre that went pretty well - maybe this is a Cosworth version?
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Oct 1, 2013 14:42
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Throatwarbler posted:The M3's engine is buried halfway in the car? That's around what my lovely 2001 Dodge Durango gets. Christ that's all Nissan can do? 
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Oct 1, 2013 15:30
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To be fair, that's about how long it was since that truck's been updated in any meaningful way.
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Oct 1, 2013 17:12
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Pham Nuwen posted:Why lift the truck if you're not gaining any ground clearance? Why put a scrotum on your trailer hitch? Why deliberately gently caress up your engine/exhaust just to produce smoke? Yep, seeing the same....here in CT, that bastion of the confederacy. For extra fun, try pointing out they are flying the flag of the team that lost. Fucknag posted:To be fair, that's about how long it was since that truck's been updated in any meaningful way. The rear end explodes before you get through a few tanks of gas to really notice anyway.
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Oct 1, 2013 17:47
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Slavvy posted:Yup. Was the first example that sprung to mind, the transit is much worse than that though. That plastic cowl bit on top lifts right off after turning a few plastic clips, and the entire length of the engine is exposed.
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Oct 1, 2013 18:57
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InitialDave posted:
It looks kinda cool in a very strange way...
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Oct 1, 2013 19:05
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wallaka posted:That plastic cowl bit on top lifts right off after turning a few plastic clips, and the entire length of the engine is exposed. Seriously, BMW straight sixes are so easy to work on and almost everything is accessible, e46 m3 is no exception.
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Oct 1, 2013 22:45
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I realise that. It was an imperfect example. This is the best picture I could find of a transit engine bay but you get the gist. gently caress you ford.
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Oct 1, 2013 23:48
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The topper is what you have to do to access the engine compartment to begin with:
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Oct 2, 2013 01:15
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Root Bear posted:The topper is what you have to do to access the engine compartment to begin with: I wish I had that when I lived in the ghetto and had my battery stolen 
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Oct 2, 2013 01:41
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Oh man, our company recently got a Transit Connect and it's the most overdesigned turd I've ever seen. Every little thing is made of plastic. This plastic gets brittle in -40 and my coworker will essentially can't open the hood without breaking something unless he lets it warm up. There's been an ongoing issue with the side doors, to the point where they're unusable. The previous owner delivered parcels in it, and apparently slammed the doors. A real panel van wouldn't have cared, but the Transit Connect has some sort of lovely plastic sensor dealy that monitors the door. Hit it hard enough and it gets pushed into its housing, no longer making electrical contact. This not only sounds a warning chime, it turns on the 4-way flashers. So there have been tons of times where he'd be cruising along in full traffic only to have the 4-ways go on and everyone swerve madly around him. Everything is tied into the computer system, and a replacement key fob is apparently a crazy amount of money. edit* also in the panel van configuration the internal shelves block access to the jack and tire iron
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Oct 2, 2013 01:46
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LITERALLY SHAKING posted:I have a Soul, it's not that bad. I've got a hosed up back and even getting in/out of a civic was getting annoying. The Soul sits high enough I can just turn and drop my legs, not having to claw my way out of the car from a foot off the ground. I got a '13 plus with all the options but the sunroof and foglights. I didn't want another sunroof car after my last three having sunroofs i didn't use. I paid cost for the factory foglights which were around $180, i just need time to install them along with the new turn signal stalk. It had 200 miles on it so i got 3k off which took it down to 16k. I've put over 7000 miles on it in two and a half months and i like it. Lots of room inside, massive headroom. I put a set of aftermarket 16" wheels on it after i bought it and bought snow tires for my factory 16" wheels. I got the 10yr, 100k bumper to bumper warranty also which was a big selling point.
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Oct 2, 2013 01:57
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Slavvy posted:I realise that. It was an imperfect example. This is the best picture I could find of a transit engine bay but you get the gist. gently caress you ford. No real other way to make a van. They have a doghouse on the interior, right?
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Oct 2, 2013 02:05
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Not only are the Transit Connects terrible as panel vans but they're terrible as passenger vehicles as well. A company I worked for used a number of them as company cars, and I had the displeasure of riding in the back of one between Cleveland OH and Nashville back in March. Since the majority of the vans coming from overseas will have their interiors ripped out and discarded*, the back seat is hard as a rock and there is virtually no body insulation or ventilation in the rear. There were three of us on the trip, two in the front and myself in the back. The guys up front stripped down to their t-shirts and complained of the heat while I huddled shivering in the back under a coat, sweatshirt and blanket, begging them to at least keep keep the windows closed for me. *Ford imports these from an assembly plant in Turkey, but due to the 25% "Chicken Tax" tariff on foreign trucks, they come with windows and a rear seat so as to be classified as a passenger vehicle. These seats and windows are removed and thrown away once they hit the US.
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Oct 2, 2013 02:12
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Polymerized Cum posted:I wish I had that when I lived in the ghetto and had my battery stolen I've got a 1999 Chrysler Cirrus. The battery is unusually difficult to remove. I like to pretend that it was designed that way because battery thefts were quite rampant that decade.
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Oct 2, 2013 03:34
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I don't get the Transit Connect hate. I drive one five days a week and have put over 40,000 miles on it since March of last year. It does everything I need while getting 20% better mileage than the Chevy Express van I used to drive at work. I do POS support/repair, telecom, data, wireless communications and it is quite adequate for that. I don't want to own one, but I don't want an Express either. It is retarded that the jack gets covered up by the Adrian Steel shelves, but I blame that more on Adrian Steel than I do Ford.
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Oct 2, 2013 03:43
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There's a pretty glowing review of the Ram Promaster. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/10/review-2014-ram-promaster-cargo-van-with-video/
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Oct 2, 2013 03:46
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Jakcson posted:I've got a 1999 Chrysler Cirrus. The battery is unusually difficult to remove. Or they just really HATE anyone and everyone that works on their vehicles  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQF16DjM5As
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Oct 2, 2013 03:49
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NoWake posted:*Ford imports these from an assembly plant in Turkey, but due to the 25% "Chicken Tax" tariff on foreign trucks, they come with windows and a rear seat so as to be classified as a passenger vehicle. These seats and windows are removed and thrown away once they hit the US. Ford actually got called out on this and is currently paying the chicken tax out of its own pocket while the issue is in appeals.
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Oct 2, 2013 03:50
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Root Bear posted:Or they just really HATE anyone and everyone that works on their vehicles I work at a store that specializes in batteries and battery accessories, and I can tell you, from semis to lawnmowers, there is exactly one situation in that we won't even ATTEMPT to change the battery in a vehicle. I mean, what the gently caress Chrysler?
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Oct 2, 2013 04:02
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Root Bear posted:Or they just really HATE anyone and everyone that works on their vehicles That's the easy one. Do an Intrepid/300 on the other side, that poo poo sucks.
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Oct 2, 2013 05:26
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Honestly, it's not that bad, at least if you work at a shop and have a lift, and even at home, it doesn't look that bad to do. Compare with some GM poo poo, we were discussing this one in the mechanical failures thread: Or how about a traverse? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiTnSv-SouI Or the Solstice where you have to remove the fender. Not the fender liner, the actual fender of the car.
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Oct 2, 2013 05:30
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 Better or worse than fake fender vents?
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Oct 2, 2013 05:45
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wallaka posted:No real other way to make a van. Wrong 
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Oct 2, 2013 05:58
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Jakcson posted:I've got a 1999 Chrysler Cirrus. The battery is unusually difficult to remove. I will always defend this. For one, its not THAT difficult, its just different. On the LH Cars you don't even need to remove the wheel, just crank the steering all the way to the left, and slide the thing out the access door. How often do you need to change the drat battery? Once every 5 years or so? Its not like its the oil filter you need to change often. It puts the battery over the drive wheels, so its good for weight distro. It also moves it away from some of the engine heat which is why the battery fails to begin with. Boxy but good! posted:I work at a store that specializes in batteries and battery accessories, Does this sound like its in Hank Hill's voice in everyone else's head too?
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Oct 2, 2013 14:09
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In a ~1997 Honda Civic, the service manual says that you need to remove the front bumper to change the passenger side headlight. I was able to get in there and change it without this step, but seriously?
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Oct 2, 2013 14:23
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Root Bear posted:Or they just really HATE anyone and everyone that works on their vehicles This doesn't look that bad? I mean sure it's more time consuming to remove than a normal battery but it's not like it's hard? Am I missing something?
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Oct 2, 2013 15:53
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JP Money posted:This doesn't look that bad? I mean sure it's more time consuming to remove than a normal battery but it's not like it's hard? Am I missing something? A minority of people here just irrationally hate Chrysler, you'd think they'd find something better to complain about instead of "abloo bloo this thing that I might have to do once every 2 or 3 years at most is going to take 15 extra minutes". The LH cars were not always terribly well built but in terms of design and packaging they were very well thought out. It was the pick of the litter compared to the Ford Taurus and its pot metal transmission and 3 timing chains or any of the 4 turds that GM was making GBS threads out that all had some variant of the 3.1l/3.4l 60* OHV V6 that was mentioned earlier. Throatwarbler fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Oct 2, 2013 |
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Oct 2, 2013 15:59
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Back onto the Ford Transit talk, in 2011 I had the pleasure of helping a friend change the transmission on one. It was a 2010 model, and every bolt imaginable was seized, rusted, and fought back at every turn. The axles were pretty much fused to the hubs and once they were out they refused to leave the transmission so we dropped it while the axles were still in the transmission. I don't know if this one was a special case and it spent it's short life sitting in a salt bath but it was just crazy. It was such a nightmare to work on; we still make jokes whenever we mention it. In comparison we did a motor swap on a 2000 Honda Civic that had a windowed block a week or so later and everything was a breeze, every bolt came right out after you crack it, nothing was seized. In comparison to the transit we did earlier it was like we weren't even trying.
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Oct 2, 2013 16:46
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Question on all these cars with batteries in weird locations: How the hell do you jumpstart the car? Are there remote battery posts or do you have to basically take off the wheel/brace bar/open the rear door and lift up the carpet? This is pretty much a monthly concern for me (mostly jumping other cars).
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Oct 2, 2013 17:22
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Fire Storm posted:Question on all these cars with batteries in weird locations: How the hell do you jumpstart the car? Are there remote battery posts or do you have to basically take off the wheel/brace bar/open the rear door and lift up the carpet? Unless the manufacturer is completely retarded there should be a remote post under the hood on every car that doesn't have the battery there
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Oct 2, 2013 17:27
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Throatwarbler posted:A minority of people here just irrationally hate Chrysler, you'd think they'd find something better to complain about instead of "abloo bloo this thing that I might have to do once every 2 or 3 years at most is going to take 15 extra minutes". Funny thing my dad bought a Intrepid with around 20,000 miles on it and then proceeded to drive around 250,000 miles before giving it to my sister who abused it until it slightly ticked over 300,000 miles when the headgaskets went. Nothing else ever went wrong with it and it managed to drive through many wisconsin winters with only rust starting to show at the end. I think any car that makes it over 300,000 miles is a ok in my book.
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Oct 2, 2013 17:48
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Fire Storm posted:Question on all these cars with batteries in weird locations: How the hell do you jumpstart the car? Are there remote battery posts or do you have to basically take off the wheel/brace bar/open the rear door and lift up the carpet? My Ford Escape has a negative post as the battery is buried under the windshield. You can still access the positive.
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Oct 2, 2013 17:52
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The frame is the negative post!
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Oct 2, 2013 18:55
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There's usually a set of jump terminals when the battery is tucked away or in the trunk or something.
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Oct 2, 2013 19:01
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Geirskogul posted:The frame is the negative post! Friends don't let friends blow up batteries, at least not while their face is near the drat thing.
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Oct 2, 2013 19:03
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Geirskogul posted:The frame is the negative post! Red cable goes on the black post right? It's a battery so obviously opposites attract like a magnet does and therefore the battery must charge right?
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Oct 2, 2013 19:08
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JP Money posted:Red cable goes on the black post right? It's a battery so obviously opposites attract like a magnet does and therefore the battery must charge right? You joke about this but I got my car jumped by a roadside assistance contract company and the guy tried to jump start my E30 backwards and blew up both of his battery boxes in the process.
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Oct 2, 2013 19:10
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Geirskogul posted:The frame is the negative post! I have never gotten this method to work. I always try in vain and then give up and attach it to the negative terminal so I can actually get the car started.
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Oct 2, 2013 19:32
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