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MassRafTer posted:They couldn't do SoR 2 or 3 because it would lead to arguments over which is better. Well... I'd be arguing with people that 3 is the best and feeling sad that almost no one would agree. I do have a good deal of nostalgia for the first one though, it was the first Genesis game I played through. SOR3 is the best because it doesn't have that grappler rear end in a top hat on the boat. You have to admit that it's a weird selection. Shinobi gets to start on its third and best iteration but Streets of Rage and Sonic have to start at their comparatively dull first installments. Then there's Altered Beast which is a game that no one has ever enjoyed, and properties like Bonanza Bros and Phantasy Star continue to lay fallow. Puzzling. I guess they could be holding something back for an as-yet unannounced Volume 2?
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Everybody seems to be confused. This is the best Shinobi, I mean how can you all be so wrong?
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They've officially said that they want to do a second volume but it'll come down to whether the first volume sells well enough to justify it. The arcade titles in particular took longer than they were anticipating. I'm also guessing they're limited to games that would work in stereoscopic 3D, which kinda precludes games like Phantasy Star or Shining Force.
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Yo NA dudes, the WU firmware update is live now and it adds a bunch of features, the biggest being off-tv play for Wii games! 3DIT: quote:Version 4.0.0 U, available via an Internet connection, includes the following improvements: PaletteSwappedNinja fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Oct 1, 2013 |
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Oct 1, 2013 01:54
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:I'm also guessing they're limited to games that would work in stereoscopic 3D, which kinda precludes games like Phantasy Star or Shining Force. Sega 3D Classics Volume 2, featuring Comix Zone and Vectorman.
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Oct 1, 2013 01:55
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Uh everyone knows the first Sonic is the best of the Mega Drive games. Do Sonic 2 or 3&Knuckles have Star Light Zone? No? Didn't think so. 
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Oct 1, 2013 02:00
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Box of Bunnies posted:Uh everyone knows the first Sonic is the best of the Mega Drive games. Do Sonic 2 or 3&Knuckles have Star Light Zone? No? Didn't think so. Casino Night Zone, best zone. I have fought men for less.
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Oct 1, 2013 02:05
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MassRafTer posted:They couldn't do SoR 2 or 3 because it would lead to arguments over which is better. Well... I'd be arguing with people that 3 is the best and feeling sad that almost no one would agree. I do have a good deal of nostalgia for the first one though, it was the first Genesis game I played through. SoR2 is a great game, but SoR3 had potential to be the best one, and then they made so many unnecessary changes to the difficulty and made the game unable to be beaten on Easy that kind of makes it pale in comparison. They should've just brought over the Japanese version and stopped there.
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Oct 1, 2013 03:58
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Mercury Crusader posted:Everybody seems to be confused. This is the best Shinobi, I mean how can you all be so wrong? The best Shinobi game is the PS2 one where you spend most of your time dying horribly and falling down buildings and dogs that know ninjitsu.
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Oct 1, 2013 04:35
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Box of Bunnies posted:Uh everyone knows the first Sonic is the best of the Mega Drive games. Do Sonic 2 or 3&Knuckles have Star Light Zone? No? Didn't think so.
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Oct 1, 2013 08:06
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Waldorf Sixpence posted:Because every other HD remake game in recent years has either come in a collection with others or at a budget price. I fail to think of a single one that sold for over £30. greatn posted:I think he was being facetious. Though in Wind Waker's defense, I will say it's the best HD remake I've played with the most improvements to gameplay. (apart from Metal Gear Solid PSP one that added online multiplayer and automatically had much better controls benefiting from an extra control stick) Box of Bunnies posted:Uh everyone knows the first Sonic is the best of the Mega Drive games. Do Sonic 2 or 3&Knuckles have Star Light Zone? No? Didn't think so. 
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Oct 1, 2013 10:22
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Ocarina of Time 3DS was probably a more substantial remake than Wind Waker HD but they're both worth the asking price so I don't care.
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Oct 1, 2013 10:42
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Ocarina of Time 3DS was probably a more substantial remake than Wind Waker HD but they're both worth the asking price so I don't care.
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Oct 1, 2013 10:45
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irlZaphod posted:Apart from the 3D, it wasn't. The only real differences from the N64 version were the inclusion of Master Quest (which already existed), and the visual cues in the Water Temple. When's the last time you played the original? There are tons of really obvious visual upgrades.
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Oct 1, 2013 10:47
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Yeah, Ocarina of Time 3D is ridiculously pretty. Also the control/inventory reworking is a neat bit of adaptation.
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:When's the last time you played the original? There are tons of really obvious visual upgrades.
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Oct 1, 2013 10:59
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irlZaphod posted:Beyond the conversion from N64-era graphics to 3DS-era? I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make anymore.
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Oct 1, 2013 11:11
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make anymore. I get that there was probably more work required with Ocarina of Time to put it out on the 3DS, compared to the HD port of Wind Waker, but I still don't think Nintendo would ever put out a game and not charge full price for it. It just doesn't seem to be something that they do.
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Oct 1, 2013 11:20
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irlZaphod posted:I was asking (genuinely) were there any major visual changes other than the obvious graphical upgrades. All you said was that it was now 3D...
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Oct 1, 2013 11:22
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Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what you want from OOT3D. The graphics are much prettier and 3D, and the interface was reworked both to be more usable in general and also for the 3DS. I dunno what you want past that.
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Oct 1, 2013 11:26
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The gyroscope controls are also pretty drat sweet.
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Oct 1, 2013 11:28
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irlZaphod posted:but I still don't think Nintendo would ever put out a game and not charge full price for it. It just doesn't seem to be something that they do. Or whatever the equivalent of $10 is in countries where the RRP of these games aren't $70.
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Dunban posted:The gyroscope controls are also pretty drat sweet. Oh, yeah, I don't even aim with the stick at all. Moving the 3DS to aim is amazingly smooth and intuitive.
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Oct 1, 2013 11:37
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irlZaphod posted:I was asking (genuinely) were there any major visual changes other than the obvious graphical upgrades. Oh, well yeah, there are a bunch of parts that were genuinely remade rather than just retouched. The interior of Hyrule Castle is an obvious example - it used to be a big blurry texture with a village painted on, but now it's all properly modelled with polygons. Some parts have had more work than others, but the improvements are immediately obvious in most places. Visually, WWHD is pretty much the same game at a higher resolution with a bunch of shaders on top. That's not a knock against the game or the HD version, it's just a testament to how well the original visuals have held up, and how little work was required to make it look sufficiently modern.
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Oct 1, 2013 11:48
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AngryCaterpillar posted:All you said was that it was now 3D... irlZaphod posted:Beyond the conversion from N64-era graphics to 3DS-era? This was a genuine question, I'm not as familiar with Ocarina of Time as probably most of this thread would be. The only version I've played through to the end was the 3DS (I played about half of the Wii VC release), but as far as I knew, aside from it obviously looking far better it was more or less the same game.
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Pope Guilty posted:Oh, yeah, I don't even aim with the stick at all. Moving the 3DS to aim is amazingly smooth and intuitive. Only in games where you have to make minor adjustments and you have the 3D off, though. Sat down you have no chance on anything more than 30 degrees in any direction.
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Waldorf Sixpence posted:Only in games where you have to make minor adjustments and you have the 3D off, though. Sat down you have no chance on anything more than 30 degrees in any direction. It's fine if you move your head and arms so that the 3DS and your face stay roughly the same distance and angle from each other. It made the shooting games in OoT3D a breeze.
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irlZaphod posted:That's not all I said. It was more like (You)  It's not like they changed the graphics beyond the 3D.(People)  Er...(You) Okay so beyond the complete graphical overhaul, what did they change?
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AngryCaterpillar posted:It was more like
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irlZaphod posted:Don't be obtuse, I wasn't saying that the 3D was the only graphical change. They have both received graphical updates, but as far as I know (or knew) the only other difference between what was done with both games is the 3D in OoT. I see. WW isn't remodelled with increased polygons, it only has different superficial effects applied to it like 1080p. Hence the difference between WWHD and OoT3D was more than just the 3D effect.
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Oct 1, 2013 14:31
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I love how Soul Hackers is 40 euros here, but 30$ in the US. 
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Might as well add the eShop-related news from the latest Direct video: -Pikmin 3 got an update that improves the global rankings system for mission mode and adds one new mission. They've also started releasing DLC missions, but I think there's only one available for purchase right now. -Ace Attorney 5 demo! Go download it!
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Demo means eShop listing for the game which means we finally have an Australian price for Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies: $39.95 Little higher than I would've liked but lower than they could've tried to jam us with so I'll probably cop it anyway.
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Oct 1, 2013 16:18
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:They've also started releasing DLC missions, but I think there's only one available for purchase right now. The DLC mission pack they put up adds four stages to the Collect Treasure mission mode. It's actually really reasonably priced too. (£1.79 in the UK)
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KATY PERRY posted:I love how Soul Hackers is 40 euros here, but 30$ in the US. Be happy that we even have it. I'm being totally serious here. We are slaves to the region locking and the "kindness" of third parties who aren't even Atlus. And then NISA shuts down for bankruptcy  Heaven knows how Sega will approach Atlus localizations. If they leave it up to Atlus USA we in Europe will get screwed. If they leave it up to Sega Europe, then we will be screwed either way because anything deemed niche won't be localized. On the Ocarina of Time talk, keep in mind the Master Quest is completely new and not like the cheap thing they did on the Gamecube version.
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Saoshyant posted:On the Ocarina of Time talk, keep in mind the Master Quest is completely new and not like the cheap thing they did on the Gamecube version. Er, no it isn't? Its still the same maps from the original Master Quest, just given the Twilight Princess Wii treatment and flipped.
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Oct 1, 2013 22:09
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Oh, did I get those two confused? I was sure the Gamecube version was the one with the flipped maps and the 3DS's the one with the different puzzles.
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Saoshyant posted:Oh, did I get those two confused? I was sure the Gamecube version was the one with the flipped maps and the 3DS's the one with the different puzzles. GC Master Quest has the same puzzles as the 3DS version, but the 3DS is also mirrored.
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Highly recommend downloading the Phoenix Wright Demo. Holy crap I can't wait for it to be released, the new prosecutor looks like he'll be fun to break down, there looks like there will be multiple defense attorneys to play at different times, and looks like many familiar faces from the original make an appearance. that was one of my biggest complaints about Apollo Justice was the lack of characters from the previous games making an appearance.
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Spiffster posted:Highly recommend downloading the Phoenix Wright Demo. Holy crap I can't wait for it to be released, the new prosecutor looks like he'll be fun to break down, there looks like there will be multiple defense attorneys to play at different times, and looks like many familiar faces from the original make an appearance. that was one of my biggest complaints about Apollo Justice was the lack of characters from the previous games making an appearance. Don't forget to turn 3D on for the intro once you start up the demo. It's actually really well done!
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