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Abso-loving-lutely. There are so many retards in my career that have personally "saved the company" from horrible time management mistakes. Believe it or not people it is not our job to protect overly-aggressive PMs from their own enthusiasm. The PM promised poo poo without consulting us and then ignored us when we said it wasn't possible? It shouldn't be our problem. But then some rear end in a top hat steps into the breach and works all weekend to meet the ill-conceived deadline and makes the rest of us look bad. I'll do my honest 8 hours and gently caress trying to save people from themselves. /grump
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A request came in from another team: "Hi we apparently should have made you aware of this but we're trying to package this app for Legal and are having problems, can you assist?" This is odd because I thought I knew all of the apps legal use, hmmm what's this on the vendor website " local version available - no servers required" how does that work....uh oh. Turns out for god knows how long we have had two users running an application that uses an ms access backend that is a).mdb so probably liable to corrupt itself b) unknown to anyone in IT c) in a directory named \restore201004\ in a folder full of copies of the db of various ages and d) stored in a shared area that about 50 people have write access to e) has no support contract and is who knows how many updates behind. What can possibly go wrong?
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I would work late when the project was personally fulfilling. Either a work of personal project. There is a difference between working late because you want to and working late because you feel you have to. Although now that I am responsible for a tiny tiny human I rarely work past 5.30 for any reason.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:What can possibly go wrong? Nothing. Because none of this is your problem. You even have the magic email stating that you didn't know about this. When they want to include you from the get-go and have your buy-in, then you can own a piece of that. To CYA, document all of the issues you see with this (basically this post) in an email to your boss and then kick it to him to either push back on or assign it to you as an honest to goodness project that you can then allocate time towards. Until then, you do nothing.
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Agrikk posted:Believe it or not people it is not our job to protect overly-aggressive PMs from their own enthusiasm. Quite true. Some of them are really good at making you doubt yourself. Our marketing head decided she didn't like - amongst other things - the fact that it takes time between her asking for something on the website, and me completing the work. Marketing is urgent, she says, it should be done in finger-snapping time. So she says, not in so many words but really not far off, "you're poo poo, so we're going to use an external developer instead" and convinced the powers that be to do so (effectively reducing my responsibilities and multiplying their cost by 10). Part of the reasoning she gave was "GB would take too long, this company promised they'll have the whole website rewritten in 2 weeks". I was thinking "that's ridiculous" and then "well maybe I really am poo poo" Nothing has moved yet. This was about 4 months ago. There's just no point in trying to be a hero. (Why am I so bitter about her and this issue all the time? Well, I caught sight of the document where she made the recommendation. The whole case was basically built on slagging me off as much as possible) GargleBlaster fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Oct 1, 2013 |
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wintermuteCF posted:You know, I think if you set up some sort of donation site, just about everyone in this thread would kick in a dollar to help fund your well-deserved "Welp, looks like it's gently caress This poo poo O'Clock" bender.
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Oct 1, 2013 02:41
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SCSH Trust Fund 2013: Buying booze and resumes for the truly needy.
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Oct 1, 2013 06:44
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Agrikk posted:Nothing. Because none of this is your problem. You even have the magic email stating that you didn't know about this. Oh definitely, I told them the problem they were having was probably related to the share permissions and that the whole thing was "sub optimal". Handily they'd already copied my manager on it for me. I am interested in who set it up though, for all I know they did it themselves.
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blackswordca posted:YOTJ: Autodesk, heh. I hate their poo poo products more than printers.
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Job is very similar to what I do now, end user support, with server admin roles is the bulk of the job. There are a couple of things I don't have much experience with but I am willing to learn. SQL and webserver maintenance, which shouldn't be bad unless something breaks and support for Auto-Cad which I've never dealt with before. Its for an engineering company that is literally a 30 minute walk from home as well. There is on-call but that is a staple of IT so I'm not surprised. Just researching now for the most annoying part of the interview "How much do you want to make"
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chia posted:Autodesk, heh. I hate their poo poo products more than printers. I hate Autodesk more than I hate Adobe. think about that for a bit.
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gently caress FlexLM in their stupid asses. I despise any company that cant be assed to make their own program. Want to upgrade AutoCAD licensing? Might as well roll out a new VM, because gently caress trying to upgrade a half dozen licenses in a FlexLM environment.
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AutoCAD is a program built with lisp. What's worse than that? Here's hoping they didn't build their own menu and macroset. If they have guess what 30 year old programming language you will need to learn 
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quote:From: User [mailto:User@companyname.com] quote:From: Smello quote:HI Smello, 
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Address autocomplete in Outlook was such a bad idea, it made users so goddamn lazy
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chia posted:Autodesk, heh. I hate their poo poo products more than printers. Funnily enough, the only real big issues with AutoCAD I ever had to deal with was how it handled printers!
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We upgraded from individual seats of AutoCAD to their floating network licensing. A barrel of fun was to be had.
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go3 posted:Address autocomplete in Outlook was such a bad idea, it made users so goddamn lazy "MY CONTACTS!!!"
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Website Update: So a few weeks ago the website went dark and today I get a phone call from the admin assistant of the CEO.  Hey Blackswordca, just noticed the websites down, whats up? Hey. Like I said in my email to you guys a month ago, I needed to get paid in full before I would do any more work or renew the domain. You guys ignored me as you normally do when I ask about money so the site expired. Well I just spoke to the CEO, he said if you bring everything online, he may consider paying you. I think were at the point now where if he pays me what he owes me, I may consider bringing the site back up. ... I don't think hes going to like that At the end of the day, that isn't my problem. That's the way things are right now. Ill be waiting for a cheque. I have to admit, that felt good.
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Oct 1, 2013 16:19
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blackswordca posted:Website Update: I actually fistpumped irl when I read this.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em30XL9c5NQ Edit: blackswordca posted:
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Caged posted:"MY CONTACTS!!!" I worked at a place where copying the NK2 file to the desktop so that it would get captured in a standard backup was part of the procedures.
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Oct 1, 2013 16:25
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blackswordca posted:Website Update: Good for you dude!
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Congrats blackswordca. "May consider paying you," give me a loving break. Just like I "may get a raise" if I had stuck around another 6 months  Caged posted:"MY CONTACTS!!!"
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Oct 1, 2013 16:30
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blackswordca posted:Website Update: This was pretty great to read.
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Oct 1, 2013 16:40
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blackswordca posted:
If there was ever a situation for dealwithit.gif this was it.
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Congrats on your new spine!
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Lum posted:Congrats on your new spine! Seriously -- it's awesome to see something positive come out of that situation. Refresh my memory though, this CEO is having his assistant call you for his non-business-related hobby site right? The whole situation has just been a train wreck to read and I hope he calls you again (so you can hang up on him again, and again, and again, ...)
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FreshFeesh posted:Seriously -- it's awesome to see something positive come out of that situation. Thats pretty much the situation. With my luck, he will call during my interview.
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blackswordca posted:Website Update: I'm surprised you didn't start laughing in their face when the ceo may pay you statement was made.
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Oct 1, 2013 17:13
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Make them give you a money order because you've had difficulties getting money from them in the past.
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blackswordca posted:Thats pretty much the situation. With my luck, he will call during my interview. Turn off you phone.
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Literally grinning like a crazy person here at my desk, RE blackswordca's new found spine and confidence.
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blackswordca posted:
I'm of the mind that statement is... suspicious. "Website's up? Good, here's what the CEO is paying you!" <hands over $18 in Canadian Tire money and a 10% off coupon on Timbits (expired 2 years ago)> You known drat well they discovered it was down about a week afterwards, herpderped around F5'ing and trying to bring it up via Googlecache, and then kind of tossed it around as the final bullshit at meetings for a while until finally sticking it with the AA.
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A puppy came in... To the bus. Commuting via transit sucks 100% less when you can pet a giant happy black lab therapy dog while stuck in gridlock. I wish my office was dog friendly.
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b0red posted:I'm surprised you didn't start laughing in their face when the ceo may pay you statement was made. I once had a client tell me they would pay my company when they got the source code to the project. My boss actually did laugh at them with me and asked if they thought we were stupid.
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b0red posted:I'm surprised you didn't start laughing in their face when the ceo may pay you statement was made. It took some effort to be honest. But I was trying to remain professional. Didn't want to give them something to cling on to if this gets ugly.
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blackswordca posted:Website Update: Good for you, man. It amazes me what people think they can get away with. "May consider paying you." The loving nerve of these people.
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blackswordca posted:Website Update: blackswordca, your ordeal was worth reading on this thread just so we could all be loving stoked that this was the result. Some guy on the internet you will never meet is literally grinning like a fool and is happy because a person that he will never meet posted this. Congratulations on finding your balls! Savor this moment, man. It's a good one!
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