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Mister Bates posted:They are both terrible, though. It's just that the Democrats are significantly less terrible. I rather like the way one Australian electoral cartoon I saw described their own major parties - the Total Scumbags Party versus the Partial Scumbags Party. The Partial Scumbags are still scumbags, but they're better than the Total Scumbags, and I'll support the Partial Scumbags Party over the Total Scumbags Party any day. Fun fact that was an edit. The original was Partial Bastards vs. Total Bastards. 
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Had someone on FB complaining that he wouldn't be able to afford Obamacare (he hant looked into it) after he gets off his parents insurance when he turns 26. Then he went full truther Alex Jones because it threw him into a gubment rage. I pointed out that he was able to use his parents' insurance until 26 because of Obamacare otherwise he would have needed his own. Dead silence has followed.
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Soviet Commubot posted:I've had a banner day for dumb poo poo on Facebook. Frank Furter in this is my aunt and I think it's hilarious how casually she takes the possibility of Obama declaring martial law tomorrow with an army of foreign brownshirts. Hell yeah, FEMA Region V!  Gonna kick all the other FEMA regions' asses, I tell you hwhat.
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Nice Davis posted:Hell yeah, FEMA Region V! The Tributes from FEMA IV will step all over the scrubs from V, I poo poo you not.
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Nice Davis posted:Hell yeah, FEMA Region V! drat straight.   Get outta here with that weak rear end Region IV propaganda
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Gen. Ripper posted:Fun fact that was an edit. The original was Partial Bastards vs. Total Bastards. One of our old political parties said that their entire purpose was, and this is a direct quote, to "keep the bastards honest".
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tiberion02 posted:drat straight. gently caress all y'all, Region V 4lyfe! 
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I like the sound of "Region X" The fightin' Tenths!
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Mister Bates posted:They are both terrible, though. It's just that the Democrats are significantly less terrible. I rather like the way one Australian electoral cartoon I saw described their own major parties - the Total Scumbags Party versus the Partial Scumbags Party. The Partial Scumbags are still scumbags, but they're better than the Total Scumbags, and I'll support the Partial Scumbags Party over the Total Scumbags Party any day. Oh man, I'm glad Good Cop is here. He sure is looking out for me and my interests.
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Radish posted:I really like Mario Speedwagon. The person who posted that is cautiously optimistic that Obama isn't deploying his foreign stormtroopers today but other people aren't so sure.  edit: Region V represent.
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Can't hold down the "Lucky 7s" of Region VII! This is our year, we're training hard and who am I kidding, we don't have a chance, just please Lord don't let us humiliate ourselves again this year
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The Navy is flying a blimp around the Maryland area for some sort of mapping mission and some of the "really, really ought to be receiving help for their mental health issues" people have been flipping out because FEMA death camps. Blimps are definitely the go-to marketing tool for that crowd 
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I have found reports on snopes that favor obama, the only explanation is that they're biased (and not that there's an entire wing of the media devoted to spreading misinformation about him)
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There really is a sense in the right wing echo chamber that the US population overwhelmingly feels the way they do about Obama and that sort of person is honestly surprised when someone doesn't think he's an Islamomarxist. I also like the "obama (small o intended) thing. It's like some sort of pagan magic, names have power and if you diminish the name you diminish the power of the person whose name it is. I think the whole Barry Soetero thing fits into this somehow, like knowing a demon's true name gives you power or protection against it.
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I've seen a lot of "BOTH PARTIES ARE EQUALLY AT FAULT!!!" false equivalencies today. I think it's just a way for people to feel like they're smart and politically informed without having to deal with any actual discussion. That, or they watch too much South Park.
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Soviet Commubot posted:The person who posted that is cautiously optimistic that Obama isn't deploying his foreign stormtroopers today but other people aren't so sure. "Small 'o' intended" gets me every time.
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Who What Now posted:"Small 'o' intended" gets me every time. I wasn't sure if that guy hated the president so I'm glad he found some way to make that clear
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Nice Davis posted:Hell yeah, FEMA Region V! I gotta tell you Davis, I like FEMA IV in this scenario. Never bet against the SEC on defense against the UN's blue helmets.
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Nice Davis posted:Hell yeah, FEMA Region V! Let 'em all go to hell, except cave 76!
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nyquil hangover posted:I've seen a lot of "BOTH PARTIES ARE EQUALLY AT FAULT!!!" false equivalencies today. I think it's just a way for people to feel like they're smart and politically informed without having to deal with any actual discussion. That, or they watch too much South Park. I have a friend that blames "Congress, the czars, head of the IRS, AG, Secy of State, VP and POTUS". I don't think he knows what half of those positions actually are, though.
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Soviet Commubot posted:There really is a sense in the right wing echo chamber that the US population overwhelmingly feels the way they do about Obama and that sort of person is honestly surprised when someone doesn't think he's an Islamomarxist. See also: Jon LEIBOWITZ 
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Region V sittin on all the fresh water and iron whatup
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hallebarrysoetoro posted:The Navy is flying a blimp around the Maryland area for some sort of mapping mission and some of the "really, really ought to be receiving help for their mental health issues" people have been flipping out because FEMA death camps. Blimps are definitely the go-to marketing tool for that crowd Just respond to all their emails with "Amazing, amazing."
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My conservative friends on Facebook are complaining that Obama caused the shutdown. Nope not a congress issue at all!
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Is there a good source for explaining that government finances =/= individual finances? I'm trying to explain this to a friend who just posted "How does raising the debt ceiling NOT impact people again? Let me pay my Visa with MasterCard."
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I don't have any conservative friends or acquaintances and sometimes I think that's a bit odd, that other view-points might be interesting. Then I read this thread and thank go for the ideological purity that is my extended social circle.
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ZDar Fan posted:Is there a good source for explaining that government finances =/= individual finances? I'm trying to explain this to a friend who just posted "How does raising the debt ceiling NOT impact people again? Let me pay my Visa with MasterCard." I've found this surprisingly effective lately. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...y-weird-family/
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Soviet Commubot posted:I've found this surprisingly effective lately. Thanks, that's an excellent piece!
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I've got some friends on Facebook that are currently in a state of panic about this Heritage Foundation study about how Obamacare is going to penalize people for getting married: http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010/01/the-new-federal-wedding-tax-how-obamacare-would-dramatically-penalize-marriage Yeah, I know, Heritage.org, but apparently the marriage penalty for taxes exists and has for quite some time. Is there a decent thing I can post to explain/counter this?
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Here's a law case referenced in the Wikipedia article on the marriage penalty: http://openjurist.org/697/f2d/46/druker-v-commissioner-of-internal-revenue - US Court of Appeals, 2nd Circuit: the marriage penalty is not unconstitutional The issue dates back to at least the mid-1970s, based on the information in the case. So clearly
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Got the latest sent at me as a response to me saying that people are going to starve due to lack of foodstamps due to the government shutdown. Rebuttals? On the surface, an anecdote about one fraudster is not fraud statistics, most programs have work requirements/deal with kids/the disabled/the elderly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP_izYhdehY
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Does anyone have anything that proves that Congress is not exempt from Obamacare? My classmate does not trust Snopes.
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nyquil hangover posted:Does anyone have anything that proves that Congress is not exempt from Obamacare? My classmate does not trust Snopes. You could post the relevant passage of the law as passed. v  v
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I've got a guy doing the "Democrats had 6 years to pass a budget and couldn't" line. Any references I could use to point out to them the filibustering that went on and how many times it went on? Edit: Even with my terrible Google-Fu, I found this one as a starting point: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/republicans-filibuster-ev_b_2018663.html Ratmtattat fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Oct 1, 2013 |
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nyquil hangover posted:Does anyone have anything that proves that Congress is not exempt from Obamacare? My classmate does not trust Snopes. http://www.hagan.senate.gov/files/PPACA/MythFact.pdf On the fourth page and references the relevant section of the law. Hits some of the other common myths too.
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Here's one from Forbes which they might respect more: http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/12/08/congress-exempted-from-obamacare/ Also, the actual text of the law, section 1312 (from http://www.hhs.gov/healthcare/rights/law/index.html ): quote:16 (D) MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN THE EX-
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