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MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Pufflekins posted:

I really, really loved shooting the BHP. Mind you we had new magazines.

I never had any issues with the mag safety. I hope the CF sells off the pistols, I'd buy one.

They'll destroy them before they sell them. It's sad but true.

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Samu
Jan 11, 2010

The only thing I hate more than hippie neo-liberal fascists and anarchists are the hypocrite fat cat suits they grow up to become.
The whole idea of putting a mag in to fire off the action and make safe the weapon is pretty idiotic and can only lead to bad things eventually.

I hate the BHP, it's essentially a bolt action handgun seeing as how it normally jams every second round down range.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

But I'm a real cowboy!
I qualified on mine twice and carried it overseas and only had one malfunction. I think a lot of people have bad opinions of them because they're using the pistols that have been abused in service for 65 years, not ones that are properly maintained with healthy magazines.

A lot of the pistols we had in stores at my unit were clapped out because they've been used every year and got poo poo kicked. The ones we had overseas were in pretty good shape.

MA-Horus posted:

They'll destroy them before they sell them. It's sad but true.

This is unfortunately true. The federal government is prohibited by law from selling surplus firearms or ammunition within Canada.

Commander Jebus
Sep 9, 2001

You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought...

I liked the SIG pistols we have at work so much (despite the fact that they are also pretty old) that I bought a newer model for myself at home.

I only fired the BHP once on basic training like 15 years ago and all I remember was a stoppage so bad that the slide completely seized and despite hammering on it with a rubber mallet for 10 minutes the range staff couldn't get it working.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

But I'm a real cowboy!

Lt. Jebus posted:

I liked the SIG pistols we have at work so much (despite the fact that they are also pretty old) that I bought a newer model for myself at home.

I only fired the BHP once on basic training like 15 years ago and all I remember was a stoppage so bad that the slide completely seized and despite hammering on it with a rubber mallet for 10 minutes the range staff couldn't get it working.

Yeah, the SIG's are nice but we've had them for about 1/3 as long as the HP's. They're great pistols too, though.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

I was lucky enough to only shoot a BHP with new mags, I didn't think it was that bad.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
It's a nicely reliable gun IF you have non-lovely mags, but the ergos are still pretty terrible for anyone with larger hands, and if you fire off a few hundred rounds a day or more, you will end up with a fairly bruised or bleeding web between your thumb and index finger. Also, it still has a lanyard ring. :wotwot:

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

But I'm a real cowboy!

Simkin posted:

It's a nicely reliable gun IF you have non-lovely mags, but the ergos are still pretty terrible for anyone with larger hands, and if you fire off a few hundred rounds a day or more, you will end up with a fairly bruised or bleeding web between your thumb and index finger. Also, it still has a lanyard ring. :wotwot:

I have large hands and besides hammer bite, the ergos are amazing on that pistol. Controls are situated perfectly, the pistol points like an extension of your arm and the grip size is perfect for me. The only thing I'd change might be a bit longer of a trigger reach, but its still good for me.

And yes, the lanyard rings are badass. I giggled a bit to see that they're coming back into use again. The BHP: wait 65 years and it'll be cutting edge again.

swagger like us
Oct 27, 2005

Don't mind me. We must protect rapists and misogynists from harm. If they're innocent they must not be named. Surely they'll never harm their sleeping, female patients. Watch me defend this in great detail. I am not a mens rights activist either.
So, I've heard some people have gotten their hands on the shiny new ACUs ICU combats. The only pics I've seen of it are the crappy small resolution one from a powerpoint, and a picture of some General wearing them. Does anyone else have any other pics of it?

Also, has anyone seen/heard the whole new Division changes come into play with uniforms (Rumours abound about Divisional patches on combats and/or DEUs).

Samu
Jan 11, 2010

The only thing I hate more than hippie neo-liberal fascists and anarchists are the hypocrite fat cat suits they grow up to become.
I've seen a bunch of dudes with velcro patches on their sleeves and different pants with knee pads in them, but the changes aren't drastic so I don't think they're the "new" combats. They look alright, don't like the brown boots though.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

I haven't seen brown boots in over a year, they were all recalled or fell apart and exchanged.

I think I've seen the high visibility name tape and rank slip-ons though. I wonder how they feel about having to make new ones when all the officer insignia changes.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
Has anyone else's pension lost like a quarter of its value over the past year?

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Frosted Flake posted:

I haven't seen brown boots in over a year, they were all recalled or fell apart and exchanged.

I think I've seen the high visibility name tape and rank slip-ons though. I wonder how they feel about having to make new ones when all the officer insignia changes.

I was leery at first but after wearing them in a hot climate for a year I'm a fan of the brown boots now.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Frosted Flake posted:

I haven't seen brown boots in over a year, they were all recalled or fell apart and exchanged.

I think I've seen the high visibility name tape and rank slip-ons though. I wonder how they feel about having to make new ones when all the officer insignia changes.

What's changing with officer insignia? I heard that NCOs are going from the leaf to the crown. Congrats you will now all look like cadets.

swagger like us
Oct 27, 2005

Don't mind me. We must protect rapists and misogynists from harm. If they're innocent they must not be named. Surely they'll never harm their sleeping, female patients. Watch me defend this in great detail. I am not a mens rights activist either.
And are they actually now officially changing the generic ranks too? I.E. Corporals are now Lance Corporals (with just one chevron), MCpls are now Corporals (with two chevrons)? Does that mean us Cpls have to give up our second chevron?

And what are we actually going to be wearing on combats and DEUs? With Combats, is it going to be basically left shoulder will be flag and Division colour patch? Are they also making Corps badges too, like Royal Canadian Infantry Corps or whatever else?

swagger like us fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Oct 3, 2013

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

swagger like us posted:

And are they actually now officially changing the generic ranks too? I.E. Corporals are now Lance Corporals (with just one chevron), MCpls are now Corporals (with two chevrons)? Does that mean us Cpls have to give up our second chevron?

And what are we actually going to be wearing on combats and DEUs? With Combats, is it going to be basically left shoulder will be flag and Division colour patch? Are they also making Corps badges too, like Royal Canadian Infantry Corps or whatever else?

If they're taking away trade specific ranks (Sapper, Gunner, etc) There is going to be much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

MA-Horus posted:

If they're taking away trade specific ranks (Sapper, Gunner, etc) There is going to be much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

I think they just made it official, because some paperwork says Bdr instead of Cpl etc.

e: RE officer ranks, I believe it was proposed that pips and crowns will replace bars.

Attire Irony
May 5, 2009
Has anyone ever gotten a letter from the RMO during recruitment that hasn't been bad news?
After almost 70 business days in Ottawa they're sending my file back to my local RC and a letter to me.
Why am I getting the feeling that this is the beginning of some four year process to prove that my dust allergies aren't fatal?

Gay but Spooky
Oct 25, 2005
New Canex jacket that is selling for $100

No way that is worth it....

Mr.48
May 1, 2007

Samu posted:

I've seen a bunch of dudes with velcro patches on their sleeves and different pants with knee pads in them, but the changes aren't drastic so I don't think they're the "new" combats. They look alright, don't like the brown boots though.

Is it just me or does the "improved" uniform's collar look less comfortable than the old one. I think they're calling it Mandarin style, and it looks like the upper edge would chafe the neck, unlike the old one which lies flat against your chest.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

I think it is supposed to be more comfortable when wearing the frag vest, so that the vest doesn't rub against your neck.

swagger like us
Oct 27, 2005

Don't mind me. We must protect rapists and misogynists from harm. If they're innocent they must not be named. Surely they'll never harm their sleeping, female patients. Watch me defend this in great detail. I am not a mens rights activist either.
It folds down like the US ACUs. You only wear it up while wearing the frag vest.

Hizawk
Jun 18, 2004

High on the Lions.

Ottawa loving owns. Best posting. It's like I'm not even in anymore, I love it!

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Last I heard about the new uniforms is that army guys (and attached etc) get priority, everybody else will use what's left in the system until they reach their end of life cycle.

Looks like air force bros will have to wait a few more years to floss their cool patches on the velcro sleeves now.

Barrakketh
Apr 19, 2011

Victory and defeat are the same. I urge you to act but not to reflect on the fruit of the act. Seek detachment. Fight without desire.

Don't withdraw into solitude. You must act. Yet action mustn't dominate you. In the heart of action you must remain free from all attachment.
As a lefty, I approve of any change that will stop hot brass from slipping inside my shirt sleeves when shooting machine-guns.

Frog 1.0
Jun 2, 2001

Now with 33% less Engrish
They need to make use cool looking patches to put on garisson like the américains or aussies. Those squares of velcros on the sleeve juste look stupid without anything on it.

acumen
Mar 17, 2005
Fun Shoe
Those squares of velcro on the sleeve look even dumber with "zombie hunter" and "infidel" patches.

Velcro patches are the dumbest poo poo.

Canuck-Errant
Oct 28, 2003

MOOD: BURNING - MUSIC: DISCO INFERNO BY THE TRAMMPS
Grimey Drawer

acumen posted:

Those squares of velcro on the sleeve look even dumber with "zombie hunter" and "infidel" patches.

Velcro patches are the dumbest poo poo.

Brigade, unit, provincial and municipal patches, anyone?

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

But I'm a real cowboy!
Is it true they're dropping MCpl and going to Cpl/Sgt/SSgt? I hope not. I like that we were special snowflakes.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
Everything I've heard points to no - only the specialist names like 'sapper' 'bombardier' etc would be changed, along with the appearance of rank for WO and officers.

Katana_Warrior
Dec 25, 2009

Could anybody here tell me the high and low points of being a SONAR Operator and naval life in general? The CF videos are p epic but I'm sure they skimmed a couple of big things.

compressioncut
Sep 3, 2003

Eat knuckle, Fritz!

Leonid posted:

Could anybody here tell me the high and low points of being a SONAR Operator and naval life in general? The CF videos are p epic but I'm sure they skimmed a couple of big things.

I was a sonarop for almost a decade. I changed to pilot in 2011. The trade has been abandoned by the navy so of the operator trades, it is the worst of a bad lot. On the ship, your gear was designed in the 80s to look for submarines of the 70s. There were no acoustic sensor upgrades in the frigate mid-life upgrades. So, you will spend your shipboard career working for everyone but the combat department and will get really good at tying knots, processing garbage, washing dishes and looking through binoculars.

After five years on ship doing nothing real concerning acoustics, you'll get a shore posting where you'll actually have to (ADAC(A) or Whidbey Island) and you'll probably hate it anyway. It takes a very patient personality (I loved it, also I'm kinda weird).

On the positive side, you will have all the time in the world for secondary duties, like ship's team diver or boarding party. And, uh, other stuff maybe.

That may sound bitter but I had a great first few years with supervisors who gave a poo poo and it was the tail end of getting real contacts. Keep in mind that even when the getting is good you're talking spending 99% of your time staring at noise. I very much liked the job but not getting to do it, most especially after the first few years, killed me.

It's also possible to go directly to submarines off initial trades training now if you want that - I don't know how common it is. Some love subs, others get coffin dreams. It's a real job though.

If you only plan to stay through an initial contract give it a go. There's enough to learn to keep you busy for a few years and you'll see some cool poo poo, but aiming for a career, ugh. Very few have the staying power for it. I would have pulled the plug had I not got pilot the year I did.

Frog 1.0
Jun 2, 2001

Now with 33% less Engrish

Canuck-Errant posted:

Brigade, unit, provincial and municipal patches, anyone?

That's what I had in mind. Mountain Goats patches is what I want...

Mederlock
Jun 23, 2012

You won't recognize Canada when I'm through with it
Grimey Drawer

If you don't mind me asking, what type of aircraft did you get in as pilot for, and how selective did you find the process? I'm thinking of applying for pilot in the next couple months, so I'd love to hear your experience if you'd like to share/if you can without getting in poo poo for breaking opsec

Canuck-Errant
Oct 28, 2003

MOOD: BURNING - MUSIC: DISCO INFERNO BY THE TRAMMPS
Grimey Drawer

Frog 1.0 posted:

That's what I had in mind. Mountain Goats patches is what I want...

...I kind of want a Moose Jaw flag patch. Not gonna lie. It's cheesy and terrible and would annoy the heck out of anyone that saw it.

Mr.48
May 1, 2007

Mederlock posted:

If you don't mind me asking, what type of aircraft did you get in as pilot for, and how selective did you find the process? I'm thinking of applying for pilot in the next couple months, so I'd love to hear your experience if you'd like to share/if you can without getting in poo poo for breaking opsec

Now is a good time to apply as they are looking to recruit a bunch of pilots. I'm currently awaiting a trade interview.

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Frog 1.0 posted:

They need to make use cool looking patches to put on garisson like the américains or aussies. Those squares of velcros on the sleeve juste look stupid without anything on it.

I work in a USAF unit and my patch is kind of lame to be honest. But it's still pretty cool by Canadian Standards.

Edit: the callsigns are also way less lame.

Guest2553 fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Oct 8, 2013

ub
Feb 9, 2003

no dont
Pillbug

compressioncut posted:

Sonar OP stuff

This is an accurate and thorough explanation. Most common thing you hear from Sonar OPs is "could be a cool job if we ever did it." The Sonar OP stuff you're seeing is probably from a couple years back when they threw a bunch of money at recruiting specifically for the trade because their numbers were so low.

If you're still looking at operator trades I'd recommend NESOP (I'm an NCIOP). Not just because they get to make the gun go bang but also down the line they get a wider and more interesting array of shore postings than the other combat trades.

Really though if I were to go back and choose a different hard sea trade I'd probably go WENG Tech.

compressioncut
Sep 3, 2003

Eat knuckle, Fritz!

Mederlock posted:

If you don't mind me asking, what type of aircraft did you get in as pilot for, and how selective did you find the process? I'm thinking of applying for pilot in the next couple months, so I'd love to hear your experience if you'd like to share/if you can without getting in poo poo for breaking opsec

I haven't been selected streams. I commissioned from an NCM position and it was probably more competitive than coming in off the street - there were 3 successful applicants, including me, my year. There's no opsec WRT the recruiting process but keep in mind there have been medium to extremely significant changes over the past few months/year. The Personality Inventory has been added to the general recruiting interview battery, and aircrew selection testing is completely (COMPLETELY) different than when I did it.

I can't help with the first, but pilot aptitude testing is now in line with RAF and RAAF methods so start your googling there. It's also quite similar to airline stuff and there's TONS of prep material available for that.

Mr.48 posted:

Now is a good time to apply as they are looking to recruit a bunch of pilots. I'm currently awaiting a trade interview.

I'm not trying to dash your hopes but now is no better a time that it's been in the past decade. Standards are still the same, failure rates are high in the initial phases (recruiting through Ph1). Probably actually higher, more Ph1 failures than there used to be.

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Sir John Eh
Feb 27, 2007
They say Rene Descartes was a drunken fart, but I should have that title

compressioncut posted:

Probably actually higher, more Ph1 failures than there used to be.

They've definitely upped the ante on Ph1 after the huge swaths of Ph3 Helo and Multi failures in late 2011/early 2012. On the other hand, Portage seems to be humming along pretty good now, so who actually knows.

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