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DynamicSloth posted:Smart move on Clinton's part, CNN always falls over themselves to find the truth in the middle when the RNC starts one of their "working the ref" campaigns. quote:He called the decision to can the project "a victory for the Clintons and for the money machines that both political parties have become." This little comment makes it pretty clear that the author was intending on doing a hit-piece that uses the Clintons to drat the American political parties for being money machines. While that might be a valid point (though targeting the Democrats instead of the Republicans for that is pretty eye-rolling) I can't see any upside for the left to let it go forward.
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Kaal posted:This little comment makes it pretty clear that the author was intending on doing a hit-piece that uses the Clintons to drat the American political parties for being money machines. While that might be a valid point (though targeting the Democrats instead of the Republicans for that is pretty eye-rolling) I can't see any upside for the left to let it go forward. And it's not that I disagree with him going after the Clinton's with this since Hillary is a shoe-in for running right now. 1 year of research, a few months of filming / editing, and he's got almost a full year to shop around trying to get the most money from studio's for them to market and release it right as the election season is getting underway to get the most out of their return. The closest potential republican candidate right now is Christie and other than being an rear end in a top hat and Sandy most of the country doesn't know / care about him yet which means a ton less money from studios if he tried to sell them on his story.
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Maybe she isn't running but took the RNC boycott threat seriously and killed the documentary to get another embarrassing GOP debate.
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SedanChair posted:
With the glasses, Perry reminds me of the insane cult leader from Dead Space 3. Not nearly as entertaining, unfortunately.
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crowfeathers posted:I mean this very seriously: why wouldn't he run? He's retired from the governorship, and it can't hurt to get some sweet PAC money before he goes on to an inevitable speaking job or FOX position. He probably won't come close to winning, but he'll make millions anyway. I guess I give him too much credit. I would've thought he would have too much pride to risk that embarrassment again. Dude is used to winning and he sure as hell doesn't want to be President. Does he have a book coming out in 2016?
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Sir Tonk posted:Does he have a book coming out in 2016?
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I have a question about the caucus states. During the 2012 primaries, a bunch of Paul supporters got themselves elected as Republican county and state chairs. Are they still there? How much can they do to support Rand's campaign?
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The X-man cometh posted:I have a question about the caucus states. During the 2012 primaries, a bunch of Paul supporters got themselves elected as Republican county and state chairs. Are they still there? How much can they do to support Rand's campaign? Here's a good update on that from August. The Paulites were forced out in Minnesota and Nevada. They are still in power in Iowa and Maine, but are playing nice with the RNC now. Thanks to the rules change the RNC made in 2012 (see the links in the OP) the caucus delegate strategy can't be used again in 2016. I think the biggest effect they'll have is a long-term push on changing the party platform at the convention to favor more of the Paulite agenda. They managed to get anti-drone and pro-raw milk blanks on the platform in 2012, so we might not be too far away from a GOP platform calling for an end to the Federal Reserve. That'll be fun.
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Oct 3, 2013 18:00
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California GOP stayin' classy with some Hillary buttons.
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Oct 6, 2013 04:14
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Are those official?
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Oct 6, 2013 04:15
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Joementum posted:California GOP stayin' classy with some Hillary buttons. Here's to more years of a democratic super-majority! 
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hobbesmaster posted:Are those official? 2016 gonna be a blizzard of misogyny
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Oct 6, 2013 04:21
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FMguru posted:Nah, it's just someone's merchandise booth. I presume he'll also sell you a Liberal Hunting Permit or a "One Big rear end Mistake, America" bumper sticker. Especially if Condi runs
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Joementum posted:California GOP stayin' classy with some Hillary buttons. That joke is decades old, I saw it in LF during the 2008 campaign.
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ManifunkDestiny posted:Especially if Condi runs Condi is far to close to reasonable to have a snowball's chance at the nomination. Huntsman was a sure bet in comparison.
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ManifunkDestiny posted:Especially if Condi runs With a couple bush jokes and severe recantations she might survive a few swings in the democratic primary now that the party is basically 90's republicans, but if you're thinking GOP she would get primaried so fast that it wouldn't even be worth it for the book promotion.
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She's never going to run, but if she did the establishment would move heaven and earth to make sure she's alone in the primary. They're never going to find another black lady with her name recognition again. The constant bleating of "A buh buh Democrats are the real racists/misogynists!" would overpower a Motorhead concert.
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Joementum posted:California GOP stayin' classy with some Hillary buttons. I genuinely do not know which of those buttons I hate more. The first one is horrible and sexist, but the second is just so incredibly incorrect and poorly-phrased. I'm glad I can't see past "A Womans" on the bottom. comes along bort posted:She's never going to run, but if she did the establishment would move heaven and earth to make sure she's alone in the primary. They're never going to find another black lady with her name recognition again. The constant bleating of "A buh buh Democrats are the real racists/misogynists!" would overpower a Motorhead concert. I feel like even the GOP leadership would realize Condi would never be able to win the actual election, especially against Hillary. Paradoxically, trying to prove they're not racists/sexists by running a minority would only make them look more so when a good portion of their base either doesn't turn out or votes third-party or something.
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Forget the twilight zone we'd be in if the GOP got a black woman (who must contend against GOP rumors that she is a homosexual) all the way to the general against a white woman. That Iraq War smell is still all over her and neocons like to run with the idea that Bush foreign policy was all her fault. Not to mention that any even remotely pragmatic conservative does not want to re-litigate that one in 2016 or any other year.
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Joementum posted:California GOP stayin' classy with some Hillary buttons.
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Urban Space Cowboy posted:Let me guess, is that partially visible bottom-left one something like "A woman's place is in the home, not the White House"? That'd appeal to misogynists and to people with brains permanently stuck in the 1950s, which is like 90% of the Republican party right there. Could also be something denigrating the right to choose, you never know.
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Joementum posted:California GOP stayin' classy with some Hillary buttons. I see the GOP has been talking to Australians lately for help with their slogans.
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It's going to be like the early 90's all over again. Maybe we'll get a Temple Of The Dog reunion!
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Joementum posted:California GOP stayin' classy with some Hillary buttons. Where is the source for this? Jesus christ who would wear that.
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On Terra Firma posted:Where is the source for this? Jesus christ who would wear that. The Hillary/Chicken thing has been around forever, quite possibly since she was First Lady or even earlier. I don't know how long it's existed in button form.
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Sir Tonk posted:It's going to be like the early 90's all over again. Maybe we'll get a Temple Of The Dog reunion! Pretty sure those are of early 90s vintage. I wonder if they have any in pog form.
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On Terra Firma posted:Jesus christ who would wear that. Oh there are a few people out there who would. 
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It's been 9 years, we have a Democrat as President, and that woman STILL makes me irrationally angry every time I see her picture. Just the sheer disrespect for all wounded vets...ugh. That convention was such a shitshow.
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On Terra Firma posted:Where is the source for this? Jesus christ who would wear that. You are talking about the party who had people wearing band aids with purple hearts on them during their 2004 convention. The people wearing the band aids were not shunned or herded out of sight but allowed to proudly show off on TV. Why? Because the Democrat running who had both a Silver and Bronze Star also had 3 Purple Hearts, and that was clearly unfair, so they made fun of all purple hearts while ignoring the Silver and Bronze Stars.
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When are all the Republicans gonna die of old age?
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BottledBodhisvata posted:When are all the Republicans gonna die of old age? Never. They are sustained by their hate.
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Urban Space Cowboy posted:Let me guess, is that partially visible bottom-left one something like "A woman's place is in the home, not the White House"? That'd appeal to misogynists and to people with brains permanently stuck in the 1950s, which is like 90% of the Republican party right there. The best part about the mystery button is that it says "A womans", not "A woman's". Defending the holy matrimony between lovely opinions and lovely grammar! 
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BottledBodhisvata posted:When are all the Republicans gonna die of old age? You haven't known fear until you've talked with a conservative millennial or two. 
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comes along bort posted:She's never going to run, but if she did the establishment would move heaven and earth to make sure she's alone in the primary. They're never going to find another black lady with her name recognition again. The constant bleating of "A buh buh Democrats are the real racists/misogynists!" would overpower a Motorhead concert. You just wait until Beyonce or Oprah runs for president.
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Hedera Helix posted:You haven't known fear until you've talked with a conservative millennial or two. I went to an engineering school. Christ, a guy I know unironically posts   BENGHAZI poo poo from The Blaze at least once a week. Now that he's graduated, he has an offer from my company.
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Hedera Helix posted:You haven't known fear until you've talked with a conservative millennial or two. In my experience, they immediately break down and start blubbering about how LIBERALS HATE FREE SPEECH the moment you disagree with them. No debating or anything, just a bunch of "  Why are you trying to suppress my freedom of speech?"They know that they're in the minority and that more and more people think their views are regressive and lovely. That's a silver lining at least.
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Funambulist posted:In my experience, they immediately break down and start blubbering about how LIBERALS HATE FREE SPEECH the moment you disagree with them. No debating or anything, just a bunch of " Pretty much. Even in a conservative university like the one I go to the (for example) ardent anti-gay people are embarrassed to mention their beliefs because they know they'll be called out for it.
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I think that being able to play the victim/free-speech martyr is a something that attracts a certain kind of comfortable young person to conservatism.
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Funambulist posted:In my experience, they immediately break down and start blubbering about how LIBERALS HATE FREE SPEECH the moment you disagree with them. No debating or anything, just a bunch of " Pretty much. It's Megan McCains all the way down.
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Rick Santorum can't help himself, he just has to keep talking about contraception. Apparently he's landed on a new theory: Robespierre wanted to depose the nobility to hand out slut pills. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBxWIc-7-eI
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