Clairetic posted:

I thought I was good at tanking in this game until I went up against Archaean Seismocratist (nightmare of course) and had to juggle multiple impairs.

"Pick ONE thing to die to, jeez!"

"Yeah this isn't working."

"I think I'm going to go do something else."

You know why you're ditching? Because you can't do it either, assholes!!!

Clairetic posted:

I thought I was good at tanking in this game until I went up against Archaean Seismocratist (nightmare of course) and had to juggle multiple impairs.

"Pick ONE thing to die to, jeez!"

"Yeah this isn't working."

"I think I'm going to go do something else."

You know why you're ditching? Because you can't do it either, assholes!!!

Clairetic posted:

I thought I was good at tanking in this game until I went up against Archaean Seismocratist (nightmare of course) and had to juggle multiple impairs.

"Pick ONE thing to die to, jeez!"

"Yeah this isn't working."

"I think I'm going to go do something else."

You know why you're ditching? Because you can't do it either, assholes!!!

HughGRect posted:

What exactly was getting your team killed? What I see getting people killed in that fight is not understanding that everyone needs to have the ability to remove Rot Iron.

Edit: And I still don't understand why people are not willing to run these dungeons with other goons.

Clairetic posted:

Because there were only 3 other goons online at the time! (judging by the in-game chat channel #awful)

And it was me getting killed by Caldera or Shadow In Blood due to not interrupting it in time or trying to interrupt one of his other spells and stacking rising vigour or putting my interrupts on cooldown and pressing one that wasn't cooled down yet and by the time I noticed and pressed another one it was too late or I GLANCED because it's a hell dimension even though I have fever pitch and 689 hit and and or or and or

As for the name/pun/thing, it IS clever. So clever that two different nerds came up with it independently!

Clairetic posted:

Because there were only 3 other goons online at the time! (judging by the in-game chat channel #awful)

And it was me getting killed by Caldera or Shadow In Blood due to not interrupting it in time or trying to interrupt one of his other spells and stacking rising vigour or putting my interrupts on cooldown and pressing one that wasn't cooled down yet and by the time I noticed and pressed another one it was too late or I GLANCED because it's a hell dimension even though I have fever pitch and 689 hit and and or or and or

As for the name/pun/thing, it IS clever. So clever that two different nerds came up with it independently!

Len posted:

Don't use #awful for groups.

Captain Oblivious posted:

Are you using Viper's Castbar Relocator? Because it really makes impairing poo poo borderline effortless.

Kessel posted:

I bought this - or someone bought it for me, I honestly don't remember - a long time ago and never actually played it. I have a week off so I'm looking to just dive in and see the story; probably have no real intention of grinding anything in endgame.

Are goons still on Grim, and are there any MUST KNOW FACTS that I... must know before starting? I read the first few and last few pages of the thread and didn't see anything in particular.

edit - jesus christ how big is this client?

Kessel posted:

I bought this - or someone bought it for me, I honestly don't remember - a long time ago and never actually played it. I have a week off so I'm looking to just dive in and see the story; probably have no real intention of grinding anything in endgame.

Are goons still on Grim, and are there any MUST KNOW FACTS that I... must know before starting? I read the first few and last few pages of the thread and didn't see anything in particular.

edit - jesus christ how big is this client?

Kessel posted:

Len posted:

Joel is doing a thing tomorrow. This could be neat but it's going to be stupid questions courtesy of dumb pubbies.

guppy posted:

I bet you can't really ask him anything! I doubt he'd be happy with EvilBillMurray-related questions.

Len posted:

Joel is doing a thing tomorrow. This could be neat but it's going to be stupid questions courtesy of dumb pubbies.

HughGRect posted:

They do something similar every month, here is something I posted asking some questions that the real community wanted answered.

Here was his responses to stupid pubbie questions, here.

guppy posted:

I bet you can't really ask him anything! I doubt he'd be happy with EvilBillMurray-related questions.

Kumo posted:

I'd appreciate your patience, I just need to rant for a bit.

I hate PuGs. God, do I hate PuGs. It's hard enough to get a Dungeon group together, and then you have to tolerate asshats in order to pick up those pretty BoP blues. Wanting to run The Ankh recently, I get invited to a group as a tank and the invitee says "hey don't worry if we pull aggro we're in purples." before I'm halfway to the Dungeon.

I should have dropped group right then and there.

If you've played MMORPGs enough, you know many of the ways that a PuG falls apart. Often it's more about group structure and communication than anything. Let me break that statement down: "we" is a problem in and of itself. "We" usually means "I do DPS and my girlfriend heals me." Which means they're not used to working with others, do not understand how a 5-man is designed and usually works, and I'm not likely to be the one healed as the tank. Secondly, telling the group that you'll be pulling aggro at the inception is just a lovely thing to say. DPS shouldn't look at pulling aggro as a badge of how awesome you are with all the sweet damage you're doing, but a party wipe in the offing. And no one cares about your gear.

So we get in and it goes predictably, with me dropping more frequently than pancakes dropped by a IHOP line cook with palsy. Mouthy DPS guy is getting most of the heals and acting lordly.

We manage to batter our way through to the end boss area, and the newbie who keeps getting lost states that she died right at the beginning of the last battle. I tell her that's not a wise thing to say after winning two of the exact same BOP blues off of the last boss.

After multiple attempts (and me dying from lack of heals), we finally down the last boss. Net for me: a few greens, no blues, and a repair bill in the mid-ten thousands.

Frankly, I think I'm mad because I didn't say something at the time. But that's the crux, get the good items in dungeons by tolerating idiots, or grind PVE alone. It's not always that bad, but there do seem to be a lot of DPShitheads in TSW.

Kumo posted:

I'd appreciate your patience, I just need to rant for a bit.

I hate PuGs. God, do I hate PuGs. It's hard enough to get a Dungeon group together, and then you have to tolerate asshats in order to pick up those pretty BoP blues. Wanting to run The Ankh recently, I get invited to a group as a tank and the invitee says "hey don't worry if we pull aggro we're in purples." before I'm halfway to the Dungeon.

I should have dropped group right then and there.

If you've played MMORPGs enough, you know many of the ways that a PuG falls apart. Often it's more about group structure and communication than anything. Let me break that statement down: "we" is a problem in and of itself. "We" usually means "I do DPS and my girlfriend heals me." Which means they're not used to working with others, do not understand how a 5-man is designed and usually works, and I'm not likely to be the one healed as the tank. Secondly, telling the group that you'll be pulling aggro at the inception is just a lovely thing to say. DPS shouldn't look at pulling aggro as a badge of how awesome you are with all the sweet damage you're doing, but a party wipe in the offing. And no one cares about your gear.

So we get in and it goes predictably, with me dropping more frequently than pancakes dropped by a IHOP line cook with palsy. Mouthy DPS guy is getting most of the heals and acting lordly.

We manage to batter our way through to the end boss area, and the newbie who keeps getting lost states that she died right at the beginning of the last battle. I tell her that's not a wise thing to say after winning two of the exact same BOP blues off of the last boss.

After multiple attempts (and me dying from lack of heals), we finally down the last boss. Net for me: a few greens, no blues, and a repair bill in the mid-ten thousands.

Frankly, I think I'm mad because I didn't say something at the time. But that's the crux, get the good items in dungeons by tolerating idiots, or grind PVE alone. It's not always that bad, but there do seem to be a lot of DPShitheads in TSW.

elhondo posted:

You mean Ankh normal, not elite, right? If that's the case, run it as dps, and just skip tanking it, until you don't need anything.

The progression for tanks moves smoothly from Polaris->HR->DW, but for Ankh, the gear from DW won't cut it. You pretty much need the drops from Ankh to run Ankh.

And I have the same complaints about end-game geared pubbies "helping" on normal runs. They should suck it up and just tank instead of trying to dps and wrecking any possibility of a balanced group.

Cheston posted:

Do manifestations no longer advance Elemental Force?

Cheston posted:

Do manifestations no longer advance Elemental Force?

Elswyyr posted:

So I've played this for a bit, mostly just following the main story except for when I needed better gear to kill stuff. I just got to Blue Mountain, and this doesn't seem very interesting so far. I can forgive the combat for not being very complicated, but so far the story is just THERE ARE ZOMBIES repeated in various ways. Or well, I liked the part with finding the secret Illuminati places in Kingsmouth, but otherwise I really don't see what's so interesting about the writing.

Len posted:

The Kingsmouth main story is basically zombies until late Blue Mountain. It's the other missions that pick up the slack on story.

Elswyyr posted:

I guess I might stick around some more. I got a "Dungeon Mission" too, saying I need 5 people to do it. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any LFG tool, at all. Ugh.

Elswyyr posted:

I guess I might stick around some more. I got a "Dungeon Mission" too, saying I need 5 people to do it. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any LFG tool, at all. Ugh.