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silverhawk79 posted:What are some good effects pedals for bass? I've currently got a Sansamp Para Driver DI box and a Bass Big Muff Pi, but is there something else that's "essential"? I'm interested in a compression pedal too. Get a chorus pedal for your post-punk wank sessions. Channel your inner talentless shithead and play like Peter Hook. e: and i mean that in the nicest way possible (and i'm a talentless shithead so w/e)
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Envelope filter and a good octave pedal.
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Oct 4, 2013 04:05
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Kilometers Davis posted:Any good music shops around? A good guitar tech will set it up super smooth for cheap. $25 around here. Thanks Thumposaurus too, but my bass knowledge isn't enough to know exactly what you were saying so I'll let the professionals do the work.
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Oct 4, 2013 05:11
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silverhawk79 posted:What are some good effects pedals for bass? I've currently got a Sansamp Para Driver DI box and a Bass Big Muff Pi, but is there something else that's "essential"? I'm interested in a compression pedal too. Chorus, delay, or reverb just to help flesh out the sound a bit.
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Oct 4, 2013 05:35
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Stravinsky posted:Chorus, delay, or reverb just to help flesh out the sound a bit. I.e., remove all definition 
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Oct 4, 2013 09:11
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Crossovers are glorious if you like effected bass. I run some pretty complex patches, and most of them have a ~120hz crossover so I can mono-fy and compress the sub bass while doing all kinds of wacky poo poo with the top end. https://soundcloud.com/jonny290/shadow-of-moon is a good example I think, that sub is dead center but you can pretty clearly hear the high end panning and moving. (btw, every non-drum sound on this is my Brice 6 string through Guitar Rig)
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Oct 4, 2013 21:12
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Some dedicated bass effects have blend controls or crossovers built in to help them work better. MXR's bass pedals work really well because they pretty much all let you adjust the effect/dry ratio. Having that bottom end go unaffected is very important on bass. If you want to mess with lots of effects you'll want to invest in a crossover at some point. I'd recommend getting a good compressor as well.
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Oct 5, 2013 02:25
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cactuscarpet posted:I.e., remove all definition I like my bass to sound as murky and distant as possible.
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Oct 5, 2013 04:16
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Jonny 290 posted:Crossovers are glorious if you like effected bass. I run some pretty complex patches, and most of them have a ~120hz crossover so I can mono-fy and compress the sub bass while doing all kinds of wacky poo poo with the top end. https://soundcloud.com/jonny290/shadow-of-moon is a good example I think, that sub is dead center but you can pretty clearly hear the high end panning and moving. (btw, every non-drum sound on this is my Brice 6 string through Guitar Rig) If I added a crossover to my effects loop, would it be possible to uh... recombine? the two signals before they hit the return on the amp? Most of my pedals are good about not wiping out the sub-bass, but I'd like to use some patches via Logic. It (logic) works fine for a guitar, but makes my bass sound anemic because it kills most of the low frequencies (even through logic's "bass amp") and I think a crossover may solve this problem? Basically I want to send those highs to logic and keep all my precious lows away from it, while only using one amp. Am I completely misunderstanding this? Please school me.
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Oct 6, 2013 04:39
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Can anyone recommend any good EQ and compression pedals for bass? I just got my hands on a '69 Sunn head and I love the tone but it's only got bass and treble knobs and I want mids, dammit.
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Oct 6, 2013 05:22
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cactuscarpet posted:I.e., remove all definition Please. Ever see Isis' Jeff Caxide or Doug Wimbush live? Tons of modulation effects, monstrous tone. It's all how you apply it.
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Oct 7, 2013 00:43
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Bruce Boxliker posted:Can anyone recommend any good EQ and compression pedals for bass? I just got my hands on a '69 Sunn head and I love the tone but it's only got bass and treble knobs and I want mids, dammit. For the EQ you can use a dedicated EQ pedal or an outboard preamp. I prefer the preamps, as to my ears the EQ on them tends to be a little more musical sounding than most 7-band graphic EQ pedals. I use an MXR Bass DI+, which has a 3-band EQ on it. Hit the Color switch and it cuts out all the mids, though. You could also run a rack EQ if you want lots of control. You can also tweak your amp to get a more midrangey sound, sort of. If you cut both the bass and the treble and boost the overall volume, you'll have a pseudo mid boost. It isn't very flexible, unfortunately. For a compressor, try a Markbass Compressore. The Compressore is a tube compressor. Tubes compress the signal slightly differently than solid state circuits. To my ears they usually have a little more midrange and a color to them. It's like tube amps vs. solid state, though more subtle. You'll have to plug it in using the supplied adapter. The other one I'd look at is the MXR Bass Comp. I've been very pleased with all of my MXR pedals. The compressor uses strictly solid state circuitry. It takes up less space on the floor than the Markbass. It doesn't really color the signal so much as bring out some of those frequencies that you are missing. Note that if you crank your tube amp up a ways, you'll actually get natural compression out of your tubes and likely won't need a compressor at those volumes.
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Oct 7, 2013 04:24
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I'm looking to hire for money a bassist to add parts to some songs/chord progressions. More info here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3423187&pagenumber=3#post420316837
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Oct 8, 2013 11:02
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Ericadia posted:If I added a crossover to my effects loop, would it be possible to uh... recombine? the two signals before they hit the return on the amp? Most of my pedals are good about not wiping out the sub-bass, but I'd like to use some patches via Logic. Sure, it'd be easy! You just want a combiner or 2 channel mixdown. All of the magic is done when you split it out, then you just combine the two, you get your full freq range back. You do need to keep an eye on phasing of the sub and main tones, but even then that can be used to great effect.
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Oct 8, 2013 21:49
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I bought a used copy of Bass Grooves and wouldn't you know it, the drat thing came without a CD. Anyone know where I can pick one up without having to buy a whole nother copy of the book? I'm really excited to use it, because my rhythm/groove could definitely use some work, and its hard to pick that up from just sheet music.
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Oct 9, 2013 17:00
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Macavity posted:I bought a used copy of Bass Grooves and wouldn't you know it, the drat thing came without a CD. Anyone know where I can pick one up without having to buy a whole nother copy of the book? I'm really excited to use it, because my rhythm/groove could definitely use some work, and its hard to pick that up from just sheet music. Did you buy it from amazon? If so let them know. Their customer service is fantastic.
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Oct 9, 2013 17:03
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Macavity posted:I bought a used copy of Bass Grooves and wouldn't you know it, the drat thing came without a CD. Anyone know where I can pick one up without having to buy a whole nother copy of the book? drat, I hope I don't have the same problem, I ordered a used copy too!
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Oct 9, 2013 17:25
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Kilometers Davis posted:Did you buy it from amazon? If so let them know. Their customer service is fantastic. I did, but I bought it from one of the marketplace sellers, so I believe my request will go to them. I don't know if I'll be able to get a refund/send it back, and if not, I'd like to have a backup plan.
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Oct 9, 2013 18:20
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You basically have Amazon marketplace sellers by the balls, so you shouldn't find any problems with getting that swapped out.
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Oct 9, 2013 18:31
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Neat, I was actually listening to the CD during lunch. Although the book is the most valuable item in the package it's nice to try out the CD on repeat for each lesson.
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Oct 9, 2013 18:55
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Anyone have any compressor pedals they're feeling awesome about recently?
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Oct 9, 2013 18:58
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Macavity posted:I bought a used copy of Bass Grooves and wouldn't you know it, the drat thing came without a CD. Anyone know where I can pick one up without having to buy a whole nother copy of the book? I'm really excited to use it, because my rhythm/groove could definitely use some work, and its hard to pick that up from just sheet music. Do yourself a huge favor and get OfficeMax to spiral bind it for you.
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That's a good idea. How does that work, anyway? Do they just chop off the binding and then poke holes in it or something?
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Jonny 290 posted:Sure, it'd be easy! You just want a combiner or 2 channel mixdown. All of the magic is done when you split it out, then you just combine the two, you get your full freq range back. Excellent. From doing a little research on the topic, it looks like the Rolls SX21 would work for my crossover needs, and a Morely ABY selector/combiner would work for my combiner needs. Any recommendations or words of caution? Ideally I'd like these two components to be as transparent as possible, but I read one review of the SX21 that said it can color sound a little. In personal bass news: I no longer hate my Platinum Warlock bass. It's been years since I've replaced the strings because drat I have hated this bass for a long time, but I restrung it with super slinkys and brought the pickups up a little and I'm now getting shockingly good tone out of it through my new bass amp. As good, if not better than my Ibanez SRX650, with the bonus of not having the lovely Ibanez active preamp that plagues some of the mid-tier Ibanez basses. My band isn't really a uh.. dark and thorny group, but I kinda want to use the Warlock as my main now. Maybe I could have it repainted with a candyland mural to soften its edge a little.
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Noise Machine posted:Anyone have any compressor pedals they're feeling awesome about recently? I still love my Aphex Punch Factory. The old version is nice, but I haven't had a chance to try the newer one.
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Macavity posted:That's a good idea. How does that work, anyway? Do they just chop off the binding and then poke holes in it or something? Pretty much, yeah.
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Ericadia posted:My band isn't really a uh.. dark and thorny group, but I kinda want to use the Warlock as my main now. Maybe I could have it repainted with a candyland mural to soften its edge a little.
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Oct 10, 2013 08:12
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Remulak posted:Ironic use of pointy or 80's guitars is the Next Big Thing, get on it now. well in that case...
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Oct 10, 2013 08:27
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I rebuilt this Warlock and painted it seafoam green with pearloid accents to combat the pointyness.
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Thumposaurus posted:I rebuilt this Warlock and painted it seafoam green with pearloid accents to combat the pointyness. It's amazing how much this disarms the metalness of this bass. Is that the stock B.C. Rich headstock? How old is this thing?
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Oct 10, 2013 18:20
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Figured I'd ask this question here even though it's about guitar... So I've been playing bass for like 18 years or so, and a friend of mine who's moving away recently gave me her guitar. I've always wanted to pick up a bit and I do know a thing or two, but never really bothered learning technique aside from a few songs. Now that I actually own a guitar I might as well try to learn, but being a bassist, transitioning has been tough so far. It's not even that I try to play it like a bass (still getting used to a pick though, I've always been a filthy fingering pickless bassist). My issue is finger position. Every time I try to read a chord in a tab, I end up muting at least one of the strings I'm trying to play because my fingers are so used to the extra space between strings. It's like I just don't have enough space for it, and I'm not even fat fingered. Any suggestions on either finger exercises or resources on finger positioning specifically for long-time bassists trying to learn guitar?
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Best I can figure it's early 80's vintage. It's a NJ series. I originally just bid in the body on eBay but the seller threw in the neck for free claiming it was twisted. I haven't noticed anything wrong with it. The inlay on the headstock is nicely done in pearliod too. I had to replace the dot inlays too. Oh and it also had the remnants of a kahler trem install that the route had been plugged.
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Oct 10, 2013 20:25
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Kim Deal once said, "don't use pointy guitars, kids, you'll get a VD"
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Justinguitar is the go-to recommendation for learning guitar, have a look through some of the introductory videos, especially the ones about finger placement. Guitar is a bit different to bass, the general rule is that you should be pretty more with the tips of your fingers, so less of the finger is coming close to the strings and so they're generally approaching from a height instead of coming in low (if you get me) so you get better clearance. You relax these rules later when you get the technique down and move on to better control, but that's the basic picture. Fret as close to the frets as you can too, and make sure the action isn't too high. Chords are a good exercise to get clean fingering, because you can immediately hear if you're touching something you shouldn't. You could try this for a drill code:You'll get used to it though, for reals. And with guitar you need to do a lot of muting anyway, so you'll get used to making your fingers get in the right position for whatever's going on
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baka kaba posted:Justinguitar is the go-to recommendation for learning guitar, have a look through some of the introductory videos, especially the ones about finger placement. When you do this drill on bass you can also practices your rakes when descending on the strings.
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Has anyone had their hands on Fender's reissue Starcaster basses yet, from their Modern Player line? Youtube videos are nice but there's only so much that can be learned from a video of a guy playing, especially through a $3,000 amp.
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Revvik posted:Has anyone had their hands on Fender's reissue Starcaster basses yet, from their Modern Player line? Youtube videos are nice but there's only so much that can be learned from a video of a guy playing, especially through a $3,000 amp. Nah, but that's interesting. They reissued the coronado as well. Seems like short-scale hollowbodies are starting to become the new thing... If there's a guitar center anywhere close by, I'm sure they'd have one on the floor that you could mess around with.
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Scarf posted:Nah, but that's interesting. They reissued the coronado as well. Seems like short-scale hollowbodies are starting to become the new thing... Yeah, about five minutes away and I haven't seen one. My local's bass selection is pretty uninspiring, as far as new stuff goes.
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Bonk posted:Figured I'd ask this question here even though it's about guitar... So I've been playing bass for like 18 years or so, and a friend of mine who's moving away recently gave me her guitar. I've always wanted to pick up a bit and I do know a thing or two, but never really bothered learning technique aside from a few songs. Now that I actually own a guitar I might as well try to learn, but being a bassist, transitioning has been tough so far. As a former primary bassist / noodling guitarist, I ran into the same issue. My solution back in the day was to buy an acoustic 12 string... and pull half the strings off. I still have it strung that way to this day. (Don't do this) The thing I had to specifically force myself to do, and I spent hours hammering on for the first couple of months I was re-introducing myself to guitar more formally this year was this: get up on the tips of your fingers. Usually, bassists use a bit more of tip/pad in their string touch because of the inherent need for more force on a bass string. You do not need this on guitar, especially if you have the forearm of a bassist (i.e. plenty of strength). Get up on the tips. To go nuts and hammer this home, and at the same time start working towards speed improvements, and string and fret spacing, I would suggest throwing light gauge strings on and getting the guitar re-set up for them. I threw on GHS 9.5's, but I would even suggest going down to 9's or even 8's. Then the routine I did was this: 1. Pick a fairly neutral mid-neck location, say 7th to 9th fret. 2. Consider your fingers an enumeration of 1 through 4: index = 1 , middle = 2, ring = 3, pinky = 4 3. Walk the fretboard from low E to high E using 1,2 on each string, making a point to stay up on the tips of your fingers and using as little force on the strings as possible. 4. Now walk the fretboard down from high E to low E using 2,1 on each string, same technique. Rinse, repeat with the following patterns: 1,3 up 3,1 down 1,4 up 4,1 down 2,4 up 4,2 down 3,4 up 4,3 down (but this will suck unless you're blessed with a detachable pinky) Use a metronome, stay even, work within a speed you can hold steady and keep stepping the pace up as you get better. But do make a point at all times to stay up on the tips, and use as little force as possible without buzzing. Keep at it and it won't take as long as you might think to work things out. Basically just work the MASH out of your fretting hand.  edit: baka kaba posted:Justinguitar is the go-to recommendation for learning guitar, have a look through some of the introductory videos, especially the ones about finger placement. Boy howdy I totally missed this. What he said, too. :P
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Wow, that helps a LOT. Thank you! 
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