Prequel: Let's All Make a Catgirl Cry

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Pakled: Aug 6, 2011; WE ARE SMART

An interesting thing in the comments there.

Kazerad posted:

Serious talk, guys:

With the amount of time I spend working on little mini-games and stuff, it�s becoming pretty clear that I can�t keep the comic updated at an acceptable speed AND with the level of complexity I want it to have. Now, a normal, boring person would look at this fact and conclude that I need to �choose� one or the other. But I prefer the much more reasonable conclusion: I need a second Kazerad so I can do cool stuff at a faster rate.

When the initial cloning experiments failed, I fell back to a more conventional solution. If you�ve noticed any differences in art style in these last couple updates, it�s because my friend Cider has been helping out with the art! I am training him to be a second me, though he is still getting the style down. We decided to keep it a secret at first to see if anyone noticed, and like two people did. Now that you all know, you can entertain yourselves by trying to guess which parts were drawn by him and which were drawn by me. I�ll tell you the right answers if they make me look good.

I�ve outsourced parts of the art to friends before, but usually just a panel or two, never on this scale. So far it�s been a surprisingly fun experience; I�ve been catching up on some other stuff and preparing things for future updates while my comic continues to update even faster than it was before. We�re going to try to kick it up a notch this coming week and see if we can update it faster than once-per-week. And meanwhile, I�m going to try to knock out a bunch of other stuff I�ve been procrastinating on, like making the fanart page not suck. It kind of needs it.

So the moral is teamwork or something, I don�t know. Also, create copies of yourself so you can be Voldemort.

# ? Oct 7, 2013 13:31

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# ? May 28, 2024 12:32

Cthulhuchan: Nov 10, 2005; Rose: Sip martini thoughtfully.

Such as this one.

Just a tiny sip couldn't hurt...

And so Kazerad's quest to become a mastermind supervillian takes another step forward.

# ? Oct 7, 2013 13:53

100 HOGS AGREE: Oct 13, 2007; Grimey Drawer

Cthulhuchan posted:

And so Kazerad's quest to become a mastermind supervillian takes another step forward.

Delegating tasks is the first step towards corporate America. Way to sell out Kaz.

# ? Oct 7, 2013 13:55

Cthulhuchan: Nov 10, 2005; Rose: Sip martini thoughtfully.

Such as this one.

Just a tiny sip couldn't hurt...

Are you calling Doom and Thanos sellouts!?

wait, would Doombots count as delegated authority...?

# ? Oct 7, 2013 13:57

Pakled: Aug 6, 2011; WE ARE SMART

When he refers to his friend "Cider" helping him make the comic, it just means he produces content at a breakneck pace while drunk.

# ? Oct 7, 2013 14:01

Blackheart: Mar 22, 2013

Well, as long as he pays Kazerad2 with better restaurant coupons. (Just kidding) :v:

ok, someone needs to level up their tableflipping skill, maybe there's a trainer nearby?

# ? Oct 7, 2013 14:02

IronSaber: Feb 24, 2009; oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...

Pakled posted:

An interesting thing in the comments there.

I'm more concerned that the artist in question has a lot of art centered on My Little Pony in his/her dA account.

# ? Oct 8, 2013 02:12

LtStorm: Aug 8, 2010; You'll pay for this, Shady Shrew!

IronSaber posted:

I'm more concerned that the artist in question has a lot of art centered on My Little Pony in his/her dA account.

Really? I find it impossible to give less of a poo poo about that fact.

# ? Oct 8, 2013 02:20

Fat_Cow: Dec 12, 2009; Every time I yank a jawbone from a skull and ram it into an eyesocket, I know I'm building a better future.

NEXT TIME ON KATIA BALL Z

# ? Oct 8, 2013 04:01

Alliterate Addict: Jul 10, 2012; dreaming of that face again

it's bright and blue and shimmering

grinning wide and comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes

IronSaber posted:

I'm more concerned that the artist in question has a lot of art centered on My Little Pony in his/her dA account.

I REFUSE TO LET MY PAGE-VIEWING AD REVENUE SUBSIDIZE PONY ART

:freep:

# ? Oct 8, 2013 04:16

Scaly Haylie: Dec 25, 2004

IronSaber posted:

I'm more concerned that the artist in question has a lot of art centered on My Little Pony in his/her dA account.

And Kazerad entered a design in a pony shirt contest. Your point?

# ? Oct 8, 2013 04:20

Grapplejack: Nov 27, 2007

Man that bartender throws Katia out for trying to make stupid racist small-talk but Stephane can just bluntly declare that all Khajiit are expendable and he doesn't even get a look!

Onna them self-hatin Khajiit here.

# ? Oct 8, 2013 05:37

Fender Anarchist: May 20, 2009; Fender Anarchist

Fat_Cow posted:

NEXT TIME ON KATIA BALL Z

Not enough levitating rocks.

# ? Oct 9, 2013 05:02

scuba school sucks: Aug 30, 2012; The brilliance of my posting illuminates the forums like a jar of shining gold when all around is dark

Ursine Asylum posted:

I REFUSE TO LET MY PAGE-VIEWING AD REVENUE SUBSIDIZE PONY ART

This, but unironically. It's not just art with ponies, the top picture at the moment is specifically about how much it costs :10bux:

more to commission explicit ponysex because greater anatomical detail requires more time drawing, and includes examples. :barf:

Now that I look closely at it, ponies and furry bondage is all there is on that DA page. Fortunately to get to the really sick stuff, you have to click to Cider's personal blog. But let's not talk about this, it's not like Kazerad, the author of the webcomic this topic is about, specifically linked us to the page I'm referring to. After all, you have to click twice to get to Twilight Sprinkle, Rainbow Bukkake, or Triple Penetration is Magic. I have to wonder what made Kazerad decide, "yes, this particular DeviantArt furvert ponyfucker is the guy I want to take over actually drawing my webcomic while I work on animations."

scuba school sucks fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Oct 10, 2013

# ? Oct 10, 2013 18:15

Scaly Haylie: Dec 25, 2004

Network Pesci posted:

This, but unironically. It's not just art with ponies, the top picture at the moment is specifically about how much it costs more to commission explicit ponysex because greater anatomical detail requires more time drawing, and includes examples.

Cool, now let's enjoy this comic about a khajiit.

# ? Oct 10, 2013 18:35

Who What Now: Sep 10, 2006; by Azathoth

I think Katia should follow her heart of hearts and stand up to Sigrid directly. :colbert:

# ? Oct 10, 2013 20:32

Kazerad: Aug 1, 2011; Unshamed by Koos

Network Pesci posted:

I have to wonder what made Kazerad decide, "yes, this particular DeviantArt furvert ponyfucker is the guy I want to take over actually drawing my webcomic while I work on animations."

You can ask! Like, I'm right here, and I'm pretty much impossible to offend. I think it is an interesting question too.

Over the course of Prequel (and some things before Prequel, I guess) I've been learning a lot about how to choose people to work with. A sad reality I have slowly uncovered is that most artists - even ones that are really nice, very skilled, or have years of professional experience - are pretty terrible as collaborators. On stuff like the Kvatch walkaround it wasn't so bad, since I had a very large number of artists all working for free, so they were each sort of free to do whatever they wanted, however much they wanted, and I could fill in the blanks myself at the end. On longer-term collaborations, though, that sort of approach isn't really viable. You need someone who not only can do the required work, but will do the required work, won't make the same mistakes again and again, and can figure things out even if you don't tell them what to do.

Working with these small and informal teams, I learned that the most valuable people were never the ones with the best skills or the most education. Rather, it was the people who seemed to operate under the least constraints. Squiggles wasn't the most important artist on the Kvatch walkaround because she could draw well, but because she took what I told her to do and got like ten of her friends to work on it without me even asking. Ch'marr wasn't valuable to the dream sequence because he could program what I described, but because he took my request of "can you draw an image outside the post borders?" and suggested that ridiculous stairs page instead. You aren't just looking for people that can think outside the box, but people who are just literally incapable of seeing where the box begins or ends and think you're weird for even acknowledging it. The best tend to be the weirdest tend to also be the most fun. If that makes sense.

But no, to answer your question it wasn't a snap decision, or like I was browsing my secret list of DeviantArt Furvert Ponyfuckers to find just the right one. I had been considering a collaborator for a while and judging different people I knew, and Cider fit pretty much all the criteria I had - with the added bonus of giving pretty much no shits about what he draws and even having a good sense of humor about it. How well the partnership works out in the long-term can be a metric of how well my criteria actually work.

If you feel like it is too easy to click your way to porn, though, I can ask him to increase the maze length. This is actually something he brought up with me before I credited him, and we both figured it took enough clicks that you'd only get to explicit stuff if you were really after it. And if you are, it's not like it's a secret?

# ? Oct 11, 2013 00:40

SatansBestBuddy: Sep 26, 2010; by FactsAreUseless

All artists everywhere draw porn. No exceptions.

Some just don't share with the class is all.

# ? Oct 11, 2013 08:21

Blackheart: Mar 22, 2013

Well I don't :colbert:

(wait maybe I have a rare clothes-on fetish)

Gotta say, the pony porn thing is pretty disgusting but I hadn't even noticed there was a second artist until he told us, and I tend to stay away from comic author drama until it starts leaking into the comic itself. Until then, who cares.

# ? Oct 11, 2013 14:31

Pyradox: Oct 23, 2012; ...some kind of monster, I think.

Blackheart posted:

Well I don't (wait maybe I have a rare clothes-on fetish)

Gotta say, the pony porn thing is pretty disgusting but I hadn't even noticed there was a second artist until he told us, and I tend to stay away from comic author drama until it starts leaking into the comic itself. Until then, who cares.

Yeah, I don't either. I can see how it might be good anatomy practice, but I see way too many flaws in my work for it to be worth the effort. - I'd probably just be horrified and never want to look at it again, much less show the internet.

Anyway, it seems pretty irrelevant what Cider does outside of Prequel. The stuff within the comic has been really good and I wouldn't have noticed without being told. Besides, there are no horse races in TES so I doubt it'll come up.

# ? Oct 11, 2013 14:57

Kazerad: Aug 1, 2011; Unshamed by Koos

Pyradox posted:

Besides, there are no horse races in TES

Only because Shadowmere would win every time and it wouldn't even be fun.

# ? Oct 11, 2013 15:03

ANIME MONSTROSITY: Jun 1, 2012; by XyloJW

Network Pesci posted:

This, but unironically. It's not just art with ponies, the top picture at the moment is specifically about how much it costs more to commission explicit ponysex because greater anatomical detail requires more time drawing, and includes examples.

Now that I look closely at it, ponies and furry bondage is all there is on that DA page. Fortunately to get to the really sick stuff, you have to click to Cider's personal blog. But let's not talk about this, it's not like Kazerad, the author of the webcomic this topic is about, specifically linked us to the page I'm referring to. After all, you have to click twice to get to Twilight Sprinkle, Rainbow Bukkake, or Triple Penetration is Magic. I have to wonder what made Kazerad decide, "yes, this particular DeviantArt furvert ponyfucker is the guy I want to take over actually drawing my webcomic while I work on animations."

Jesus, who cares? You shouldn't let your judgement be influenced by other things the artist has done, even if it was Hitler.

# ? Oct 11, 2013 15:10

Blackheart: Mar 22, 2013

^^^ Well, Hitler was a pretty mediocre artist anyway ^^^ :v:

Pyradox posted:

Yeah, I don't either. I can see how it might be good anatomy practice, but I see way too many flaws in my work for it to be worth the effort. - I'd probably just be horrified and never want to look at it again, much less show the internet.

Oh, I just want to clarify that I only meant weird porn for commissions. Drawing nudes is essential to illustration practice, and properly "erotic" art has its place like everything else I guess. In that sense then I'd say that yes, every artist has to draw "porn" sometimes.

# ? Oct 11, 2013 15:10

Wind God Sety: Sep 2, 2011; "I think you really should be in the ocean..."

So that's what I been doing wrong!

A person who draws a thing you like, also draws a thing you don't like. This is ok, because you don't have to like either everything or nothing that an artist does. You can continue enjoying Prequel, regardless of the other things the artist works on.

# ? Oct 11, 2013 15:35

ANIME MONSTROSITY: Jun 1, 2012; by XyloJW

Blackheart posted:

^^^ Well, Hitler was a pretty mediocre artist anyway ^^^

Sure, but you'd call him a mediocre artist, and not refuse to even judge them only because he started World War 2. Pony porn shouldn't be different from the Holocaust in that way.

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# ? Oct 11, 2013 15:49