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Communions. Holy boosters exist but they're both unique artifacts.
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There are a few H4 national summons. Like, two of the Spenta, at least one of the Grigori, maybe a few others? Might also be an H4 hero out there, though I doubt it. H4 is not common.
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Oct 12, 2013 20:29
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Just a head's up in case anyone missed it, Dawn of a New Age LP started this morning and has 9 hours remaining on the timer
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Oct 12, 2013 20:33
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dis astranagant posted:Communions. Holy boosters exist but they're both unique artifacts. This may not actually be true anymore. I'm pretty sure I saw at least one nonunique holy booster in the item list when I was doing a test run as Ulm.
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Oct 12, 2013 20:34
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NinjaDebugger posted:This may not actually be true anymore. I'm pretty sure I saw at least one nonunique holy booster in the item list when I was doing a test run as Ulm. According to the manual the only holy boosters are artifacts.
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Oct 12, 2013 20:37
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Khisanth Magus posted:According to the manual the only holy boosters are artifacts. If it's anything like Dom3, the manual is full of lies.
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Oct 12, 2013 20:39
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Is entering the Arena fights ever worth it?
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Oct 12, 2013 20:44
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It's a free magic item on your dude, if nobody else enters. Don't send in a god, but maybe a mid-level thug. Also, communions are the only practical way to get to H5.
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Oct 12, 2013 20:57
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Roland Jones posted:There are a few H4 national summons. Like, two of the Spenta, at least one of the Grigori, maybe a few others? Might also be an H4 hero out there, though I doubt it. H4 is not common. e: regarding the Deathmatch, if you think you have a commander going spare who might be able to take out a couple of opposing commanders, go for it. Don't send your god, and probably don't send a prophet, though. jBrereton fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Oct 12, 2013 |
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Oct 12, 2013 20:59
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MA Pythium has these special priests that autocast Communion Slave.
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Oct 12, 2013 21:02
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amuayse posted:MA Pythium has these special priests that autocast Communion Slave.
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Oct 12, 2013 21:07
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Lairek posted:Say, how do you get to holy 5? I know that prophetising an H3 priest will give H4, but who has access to native H4 priests? Or are there Holy boosters? I think Ctis had a 5 holy random event hero guy, though I am not sure if that was from a mod or not.
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Oct 12, 2013 22:03
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You are receiving this broadcast as a dream...We are transmitting from the year one nine... nine nine ...You are receiving this broadcast in order t
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LA Bogarus has a holy 4 hero. He also freespawns Khlysti.
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Oct 12, 2013 22:32
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EA Ermor gets a H4 hero (Primate), MA Marignon has one (Cardinal, I think?), LA C'tis has one (First King) and so does Bogarus.
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Oct 12, 2013 23:13
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MA Pythium also gets one as the Patriarch.
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Oct 12, 2013 23:14
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NinjaDebugger posted:This may not actually be true anymore. I'm pretty sure I saw at least one nonunique holy booster in the item list when I was doing a test run as Ulm. Unless it's changed from Dom3, the Crystal Shield will boost holy.
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Oct 13, 2013 00:11
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2Hand: Sword of Justice(Unique) F2S1 --> +1H 2Hand: Sword of Injustice(Unique) D3 --> +1H 1Hand: Immaculate Shield(Unique) F3S2 --> +1H
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Oct 13, 2013 00:21
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Kylaer posted:Unless it's changed from Dom3, the Crystal Shield will boost holy. I read on the desura forums that power of the spheres doesn't boost holy anymore, and in dom3 the crystal shield just cast power of the spheres at the start of combat, but I haven't actually tested it in dom4 myself
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Oct 13, 2013 00:47
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Once and Future Queen should be H4, as well.
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Oct 13, 2013 03:39
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You can always just stick a priest in a communion and boost that way. Just have to scrounge up an S priest or some Crystal Matrices.
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Oct 13, 2013 04:48
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Flavahbeast posted:I read on the desura forums that power of the spheres doesn't boost holy anymore, and in dom3 the crystal shield just cast power of the spheres at the start of combat, but I haven't actually tested it in dom4 myself The shield works the same in dom4, casting PotS at the start of battle(now listed in the actual item description).
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Oct 13, 2013 13:03
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Nuclearmonkee posted:You can always just stick a priest in a communion and boost that way. Just have to scrounge up an S priest or some Crystal Matrices.
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Oct 13, 2013 13:27
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Is anybody else having Dom4 take a really long time to download each turn? It's making me re-receive the map image every time.
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Oct 13, 2013 15:35
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Speleothing posted:Is anybody else having Dom4 take a really long time to download each turn? It's making me re-receive the map image every time. Yeah, this seems to be a thing with some games. I hypothesize that it has to do with throne maps. Additionally, my server is reacting badly to 4.01 for some reason, but I think I know why and seem to have stemmed the bleeding somewhat.
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Oct 13, 2013 19:47
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One of the Atlantis get a H4 hero. You know, to bless their... nevermind. It's funny you should ask about H3 and H4 priests as Kailasa. If things haven't changed much, you are one of the few nations that can produce H4 priests on demand, albeit much much later in the game. Summon Kinnara S3 Conj 6, 25 gems: Air 2 Astral 2 Holy 2 Summon Siddha S5 Conj 7, 35 gems: Air 2 Astral 3 Holy 3 Summon Devala S5 Conj 9, 55 gems: Astal 3, Holy 4 Summon Devata S5 Conj 8, 45 gems: Air 3 Astral 2 Holy 3
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Oct 13, 2013 22:35
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LordSloth posted:One of the Atlantis get a H4 hero. You know, to bless their... nevermind. Only 55 gems and conj9.  Kailasa really is terrible becAuse Jesus Christ just give a monkey h1s1or a priest with magic leadership that doesn't cost 360g.
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Oct 13, 2013 22:50
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Every time I try to delete a saved game created in the same instance of Dominions 4 I get an error message: "Failed to delete saved game. Maybe the file is open in another program." Closing and re-opening the program takes care of it, but it's still really irritating when I'm trying to test SC builds. 
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Oct 14, 2013 00:09
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Every time I try to delete a saved game created in the same instance of Dominions 4 I get an error message: Are you running as administrator? It might be trying to write saved games to a directory in program files.
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Oct 14, 2013 01:25
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Dirk the Average posted:Are you running as administrator? It might be trying to write saved games to a directory in program files. That was my first thought; I tried running both with and without, it made no difference.
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Oct 14, 2013 02:02
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:That was my first thought; I tried running both with and without, it made no difference. Mine does the same. Just restart the program.
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Oct 14, 2013 02:37
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Mine does the same. Just restart the program. Having to restart the program every time is what I was complaining about. 
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Oct 14, 2013 02:47
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Even though I was never able to get into Dom 3, I just bought this game in attempt to try this again. As the whole concept scratches an itch that no other game has before. Think I'm going to tool around in single player for a bit this time around, to see if I can get better at starting off. Are Giant nations since considered newbie friendly? And is blessing still a valid strategy in this version? The idea of controlling an army of super powered giants appeals to me greatly.
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Oct 14, 2013 03:01
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Thern posted:Even though I was never able to get into Dom 3, I just bought this game in attempt to try this again. As the whole concept scratches an itch that no other game has before. Giants are still pretty newbie-friendly. However, my favorite suggestions for learning the game fastest are Tien Chi or LA Man or other more 'human' factions. You will have to learn to use regular troops at some point, and learning it early is probably for the best - normal human troops without the badassery of giants are basically what you get out of 90% + of independents so them, and their counters, are probably the most 'core' troop type of the game. That said, giants you still learn stuff by playing as. The easiest to play for newbies nations are of course MA and LA ermor, but you learn basically nothing about how to play any other faction by playing those because they play so differently from other factions and because the AI is nowhere near sophisticated enough to bust out the required counters that human players will throw at those nations so you basically automatically win. Blessing is still viable as far as we can tell now. Blood bless is a lot more powerful with the new B9 bless effect of damage return (doesn't prevent damage, just reflects damage as it is taken). People are starting a lot of games but only time will see how powerful various strategies still are. Giants in particular are in a strange place with the buffs/nerfs. It used to be fairly common to take something like E9/N6 but now nature doesn't provide percent-based regen until level 9, and provides bonus hp to each unit before that (which is least valuable to giants who already have a ton of HP each). B9's effect would be good but it's basic ability of bonus to strength is not very useful for giants who already 1-hit everything they don't hit a limb on. Also, some giant nations (Niefelheim et al, Hinnom et al) got free design points from temp scales that have since gone away. On the other hand, Giants with decent protection and morale have benefitted hugely from the formation modification options in dominions 4 vs dominions 3 - a squad of 15 high protection high morale but not sacred or cap-only giants led by an indie commander will totally crush most independent provinces without taking losses now because the line formation makes them so much more effective now than they were before and less likely to be focused down on corners of a formation etc. A lot of the most effective battlefield counters to giants are high-magic options which take longer to research now than they did before. Basically, who knows at this point? There are so many changes to everything it's hard to say. But they still crush AIs easily so there's that. In general, the AI will lose to most strategies that involve any of: 1) A decent mixed arms army that includes multiple types of units and/or synergistic buffing spells 2) Thugs or supercombatants that are decently survivable 3) Any sort of decent battlefield evocation plan 4) Armies made of good summoned magical units The ai is good at fielding huge armies of mooks, but not much else. Anything that has a plan to deal with huge armies of mooks can win easily.
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Oct 14, 2013 03:23
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The AI is also good at teaching you how to deal with a ton of small armies trying to raid all over the place, though they are stupid and wait for you to kill them once they get to a fort.
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Oct 14, 2013 14:40
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Bertyos seems pretty newbie-friendly and is a good introductory nation when it comes to bloodhunting and juggling StR mages. Better than average troops (elephants and formation spearmen included) Relatively good mages Nice cash flow Strong Blood and Elemental paths
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Oct 14, 2013 15:42
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For those who weren't present in IRC, I share the two flags I made for the Axis of Incompetence team in MadPantheon: 
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Oct 14, 2013 15:53
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It was pointed out by a complainer with  problems on IRC that I hadn't posted a link to the LP thread in here, so here it is:http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3574174 More content will be posted as soon as my players manage to get enough turns in for me to post something!
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Oct 14, 2013 16:29
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So, is there a channel where everyone is meeting to talk in Violin, or is it just a clusterfuck in Dom4goons?
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Oct 14, 2013 17:31
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I've tried Google searching for it, but does anybody know about dom4 will be on steam? My group of friends I play this with don't want to buy it until it comes out on steam.
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Oct 14, 2013 17:35
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That's up to Valve or Greenlight, but I'm pretty sure you'll be able to use a Desura key on Steam if/when it happens.
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