|
Sinking Ship posted:So what do goons think of Bakemonogatari and all it's ...sequels? spin-offs? I don't really understand the continuity at all but that's par for the course for anime in my experience. It seems pretty popular and lots of people have things to say about it so I've been making an effort to watch it. But the art style is weird as gently caress, not like, Madoka levels of disjointed craziness but pretty drat strange. For me at least it's pretty disconcerting, does it ever get more "normal"? Is it worth watching in spite of the weirdness? Does the weirdness contribute to the story in some meaningful way I can't yet understand? I just dunno, I watched the first few episodes and since it has so much hype I sort of want to soldier on but I just don't like the style much. Wasting your time, the surreal art and dialogue are the only reasons to watch it and if you don't like that then there's not much point. It's also creepy as gently caress in a bad way a fair amount of the time.
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2013 14:26
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 30, 2024 10:55 |
|
|
Monogatari remains pretty consistently weird. I would say to a certain degree that's what people like about it; it's certainly much more ambitious in some artistic areas (while also being sleazy in others). For me, the dialogue is the main attraction. Nisio has been able to develop a pretty good rapport between just about every character and it all combines previous weirdness to make something that feels pretty unique. But it also comes with a lot of baggage.
|
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2013 14:28
|
|
|
I think that we're beyond euphemisms when it comes to the *Monogatari/*Story series. Both the Novels and Anime are a clusterfuck of ideas and characters that when they work, goddammit they knock it out of the park. As Nate mentioned, the dialogue/rapport between most of the characters is great, especially given how there's very few characters and that it doesn't have the "problem" that lots of Anime/Novels have of having gigantic-rear end casts trying to vie for your attention. The fact that you can actually feel that some of these characters are moving forward / developing as people is also pretty swell. There are some things, however, that come off as creepy / retarded / just plain bad, but since almost all of those things are supposed to be played for titillation purposes, it makes most people cringe. With good reason. The novels also have this recurring problem of going off into weird tangents about the more meta aspects surrounding the series, and really: I don't give a gently caress about what Nisio thinks about the voice actresses portraying the characters. The weirdness of the anime does(or at least I think it so) contribute to the idea that, regardless how good or bad the cast are, they're all a bunch of self-obsessed twats, which makes sense when you think about their physical/mental age. So, to answer your question: If you're going for the anime, the strange art is part of the package. The continuity does becomes a good deal more clearer later on(even if some parts have not been animated yet) and there are going to be parts that WILL make you uncomfortable. Thread lightly, I guess. Glad we were of assistance.  vvvvv Wark Say fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Oct 11, 2013 |
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2013 16:03
|
|
|
Eh sounds like I'll take a pass, strange things just confuse me, thanks for shedding a bit of light goons.
|
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2013 16:22
|
|
|
I enjoyed Bakemonogatari quite a bit, but not so much the rest of them.
|
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2013 21:51
|
|
|
I have a dilemma, I watched the trailer for Kill la Kill and didn't like it, then watched the first episode on the bus to work and loved it. Problem is I can't really watch it on the bus cause it goes super fan service almost immediately, so I'm wondering if there's anything as random without the almost nude characters every 3 minutes? (will still watch kill la kill during lunch where no one can judge me) fake edit: also super happy that the new Hajime no ippo is back to the old style again. I really recommend Hajime no ippo for sport anime fans.
|
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2013 22:47
|
|
|
Depends what you mean by 'random.' Did you like how kinetic and fast-paced the show was, the constant-barrage of gags, or both? Basically, do you want an action show, a comedy show, or an action-comedy type deal?
|
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2013 22:51
|
|
|
both I think, it's weird cause from the trailer I really didn't like it at all but watching the episode it just worked for me. So action-comedy deal edit: re-watching cromartie high school for comedy value. I had forgotten about this until mentioned earlier in this thread. edit 2: VVVVVVVVVV Yeah FLCL is great fun, I might re-watch this again. I didn't like Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi as much tho. Will have a look at Dead leaves this weekend, thanks. OxeHunden fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Oct 11, 2013 |
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2013 22:55
|
|
|
Fooly Cooly and Dead Leaves
|
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2013 22:56
|
|
|
Samurai Champloo? Its tone varies a bit from episode to episode but there's a sequence involving samurai baseball, which says all that needs to be said about its more goofy moments.
|
|
#
?
Oct 12, 2013 01:05
|
|
|
Sequence nothing. There's a whole episode about a samurai baseball game.
|
|
#
?
Oct 12, 2013 01:18
|
|
|
And it is hilarious.
|
|
#
?
Oct 12, 2013 01:26
|
|
|
Then there is that one  episode. Good stuff.
|
|
#
?
Oct 13, 2013 03:39
|
|
|
linall posted:Then there is that one Hah, I'd forgotten about that. Man I should rewatch that series it had some great moments.
|
|
#
?
Oct 13, 2013 15:01
|
|
|
Are there any really awesome movies in the last 3-4 years I should watch? I stopped watching anime but was turned on to REDLINE and wouldnt mind seeing more cool stuff like that.  Aside from Ghibli stuff, I always watch those.  EDIT: VVVV I actually watched those too, sorry! Excellent recommendations though. 
Minty Swagger fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Oct 13, 2013 |
|
#
?
Oct 13, 2013 18:44
|
|
|
NGE Rebuild 1.11, 2.22, and 3.33. By far some of the best movies of the last few years.
|
|
#
?
Oct 13, 2013 18:56
|
|
|
BotchedLobotomy posted:Are there any really awesome movies in the last 3-4 years I should watch? I stopped watching anime but was turned on to REDLINE and wouldnt mind seeing more cool stuff like that. Wolf Children. It has the same director as Summer Wars and The Girl Who Leapt Through Time. And if you haven't seen any of those, watch 'em all! Mamoru Hosada is probably gonna be the next big name in anime movies once Miyazaki has retired for good (he claims he has retired, but to be honest he has said that after every movie he made in the past decade or so I can't see him stopping until he's dead).
|
|
#
?
Oct 13, 2013 19:42
|
|
|
Srice posted:Wolf Children. It has the same director as Summer Wars and The Girl Who Leapt Through Time. Apparently he is indeed retiring: http://www.animationmagazine.net/features/miyazakis-fond-farewell/ e:VV quote:“I’ve mentioned that I would retire many times in the past, so a lot of you must be thinking ‘Oh, not again,’ but this time I am quite serious … My work is really about sitting at the desk and drawing. And at my age, you just reach a point when you have to put down the pencil a bit earlier each day and go home.” He even acknowledges that, so I'm pretty sure it's not another red herring. ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Oct 13, 2013 |
|
#
?
Oct 13, 2013 19:47
|
|
|
Considering how many times Miyazaki has claimed to be retired only to come back, I think I'm right to be highly skeptical!
|
|
#
?
Oct 13, 2013 19:54
|
|
|
Sword of the Stranger is a perfect clockwork action movie.
|
|
#
?
Oct 13, 2013 21:12
|
|
|
So I've finished Star Driver (which I thought was ok, didn't like the open ended ending and thought it really lacked conclusion), Sword Art Online (which I liked for the first half, was bored of the second part with a bit of  , but the ending was pretty good), Attack on Titan (which I can't loving wait until the next season of it).Other notable stuff I've enjoyed: Black Lagoon, TTGL, Cowboy Bebop, Code Geass, FLCL, Darker Than Black, Death Note, Durarara, Great Teacher Onizuka, Hanbun no Tsuki ga Noboru Sora, Now and Then; Here and There, Katanagatari, Welcome to the N.H.K., Samurai Champloo, Trigun, Cromartie High School Most of my tastes are for action, or downright ridiculous stuff, but I enjoy a good romance show every now and then, and sometimes a little bit of  . I've been told to watch Kill La Kill by a pal of mine, but anything else to kill time while that goes on would be spectacular.
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2013 13:13
|
|
|
Baccano is a fun period thing with a decent amount of action. It portrays three different frames of time at once so you might have trouble keeping track of the plot if you aren't paying fairly close attention, but it's a fun watch even if you don't follow the plot perfectly, and it's neat to watch an anime set in probition era America. The dub is also fantastic. It's by the same author as the original Durarara novels, too. EDIT: Also the opening is a work of art. Endorph fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Oct 15, 2013 |
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2013 13:30
|
|
|
Endorph posted:Baccano is a fun period thing with a decent amount of action. It portrays three different frames of time at once so you might have trouble keeping track of the plot if you aren't paying fairly close attention, but it's a fun watch even if you don't follow the plot perfectly, and it's neat to watch an anime set in probition era America. The dub is also fantastic. It's by the same author as the original Durarara novels, too. Seconding that the Baccano dub is amazing, especially Isaac and Miria  .Also I'm surprised Martian Successor Nadesico and Eureka Seven aren't on that list given what you mentioned your preferences as. Some other things you might like are Redline (which everyone should watch because god drat it's a fun movie), Excel Saga, Nichijou, Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt (watch the dub for this, it's amazingly funny), and Last Exile. For a specific recommendation that has a bit of everything to your tastes, watch Gungrave. The first half follows two friends through their rise to power over several years in the mafia (it jumps a few years every 3-5 episodes) and the gradual wedge between them ending in betrayal (not a spoiler, as it's shown in the very first episode before going all the way back to the start in the second episode), and the second half (with a heavy dose of sci-fi stuff that's makes it a pretty jarring shift in the setting, but still watchable) is the main character's journey of revenge. What makes it good is it has well-written characters and the entire second half is just grows into one big round of as it goes on.
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2013 14:02
|
|
|
If you liked FLCL and you like crazy action stuff you should watch Dead Leaves.
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2013 14:41
|
|
|
Endorph posted:Baccano Thirding this, the show was amazing. You might also like The Irresponsible Captain Tylor. There is also a new show that just started that is supposed to be a lot like Sword Art Online called Log Horizon. I've only seen two episodes so far, but it looks like it might be good.
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2013 14:47
|
|
|
Endorph posted:Baccano is a fun period thing with a decent amount of action. It portrays three different frames of time at once so you might have trouble keeping track of the plot if you aren't paying fairly close attention, but it's a fun watch even if you don't follow the plot perfectly, and it's neat to watch an anime set in probition era America. The dub is also fantastic. It's by the same author as the original Durarara novels, too. Fantastic, brutal, insane, brilliant. It's a bit odd that you saw Durarara first though, but Baccano is definitely the better of the two. Seconding Dead Leaves and Seagoon's suggestions. You should also check out Ghost in the Shell. It's a fantastic action thriller, but it comes with a lot of philosophical musings so if that's something you can't stand... watch it anyway. Every single title in the franchise is top quality stuff. Jormungand is a lot like Black Lagoon, so I think you'll like it.
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2013 15:39
|
|
|
Neddy Seagoon posted:Also I'm surprised Martian Successor Nadesico and Eureka Seven aren't on that list given what you mentioned your preferences as. I want to expand on the Eureka Seven bit; it's my favorite by far and any chance I get to recommend it I will take. So it's a mech show where the giant robots air-surf, which is already loving awesome. But the mechs aren't really the focus, the characters are: the show is also simultaneously thematically based on 1960s surfing counterculture and rips directly from The Golden Bough, one of the most important early anthropological texts. The music score is incredible (I actually liked it better than Bebop!), the cast of characters are fun, developed, and interesting, and there is so much depth in the significance and symbolism of everything that happens. I've re-watched the series at least once every year and every time I find something new that I didn't notice before and adds a whole new dimension to the show. Flipping that around though, some of the character motivations and actions (particularly surrounding the main villain) are fairly inscrutable on a first watch. The last tenth of the show or so especially may not make much sense at first glance. But I rather liked that the villain wasn't easy to understand. As for how it fits your tastes, being a mech show, E7 certainly has its dose of action, but romance is a central theme and relationships (romantic, familial, and platonic!) between all kinds of people in many stages of life get their time in the sun to be explored. If you have time to watch 50 episodes of something, then E7 is worth it. There's more information on the ADTRWiki page, particularly some more caveats about the first several episodes, which are largely considered to be lackluster but I like them just fine. But don't watch the movie or the sequel unless you really love the show; they're pretty bad and all you'll really get out of them is a fun recognition of how the characters or setting have changed.
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2013 16:35
|
|
|
Yeah pretty much watch E7 at least three times if you enjoy living and filling that life with good things. Movie is conceptually successful and interesting. Not the best movie ever made but a really nice little excursion in the boundaries of the IP. Sequel is straight garbage.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2013 04:19
|
|
|
Thanks a bunch. I'll definitely be looking at Baccano, Dead Leaves, Eureka Seven and Jormungand. They seem to be really similar to the stuff I enjoyed most. I've noted the other things but I'll get those ones later. 
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2013 07:57
|
|
|
I'm looking to show Eureka 7 to some friends. 50 episodes is way more than they usually watch, so I'm wondering if there are any episodes that are recommended safe to skip? I can think of one early on that's Renton and Eureka nearly getting arrested on his uncle's fruit farm or some dumb thing like that, but are there any others? Mostly it'd be good to get into the really good stuff as soon as possible so I'm looking to facilitate that.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2013 18:06
|
|
|
TheKingofSprings posted:I'm looking to show Eureka 7 to some friends. 50 episodes is way more than they usually watch, so I'm wondering if there are any episodes that are recommended safe to skip? I can think of one early on that's Renton and Eureka nearly getting arrested on his uncle's fruit farm or some dumb thing like that, but are there any others? Mostly it'd be good to get into the really good stuff as soon as possible so I'm looking to facilitate that. Don't skip anything, Eureka Seven is exactly as long as it needs to be. The only bad episodes are clustered right at the beginning and they're sadly all plot-relevant.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2013 23:22
|
|
|
Tuxedo Catfish posted:Don't skip anything, Eureka Seven is exactly as long as it needs to be. The only bad episodes are clustered right at the beginning and they're sadly all plot-relevant. Oh yea. This is a show that continues to get better right up until the end. Everything is worth watching but the first several episodes. Despite being atrocious, they are unfortunately necessary. I probably would have not watched the rest of the show if this thread hadn't yelled at me into doing so, but boy was I glad I did. Keep pushing your friends to keep going until they've cleared that poo poo hump, then just sit back and let them enjoy the entire 50 episode ride.
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2013 00:53
|
|
|
So I just finished Tiger and Bunny on hulu. Is there a second season? If not, anything similar to fill my wanting heart? 
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2013 01:06
|
|
|
They're making a sequel movie that may or may not lead to a second season. Until then, there sadly isn't anything else in the franchise to watch.
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2013 02:10
|
|
|
Brainamp posted:So I just finished Tiger and Bunny on hulu. Is there a second season? If not, anything similar to fill my wanting heart? Did you see last season's Gatchaman Crowds?
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2013 02:21
|
|
|
Brainamp posted:So I just finished Tiger and Bunny on hulu. Is there a second season? If not, anything similar to fill my wanting heart? There is a movie coming out soon, and the current season has Samurai Flamenco, which is shaping up to be a very different kind of superhero story, but otherwise, no. Tiger and Bunny stands alone. Sorry Corals posted:Did you see last season's Gatchaman Crowds? Although this is also a good suggestion. Gatchaman Crowds is a very good show with a few things in common with Tiger & Bunny. It is very different, though.
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2013 02:37
|
|
|
Brainamp posted:So I just finished Tiger and Bunny on hulu. Is there a second season? If not, anything similar to fill my wanting heart? There's a second compilation / remake movie coming out and hopes are that something will come out after that but absolutely nothing is confirmed.
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2013 05:06
|
|
|
My brother would like to watch some good dramas. He'd prefer something not in the present time. So something historical or more fantastical.
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2013 17:51
|
|
|
Lucy Heartfilia posted:My brother would like to watch some good dramas. He'd prefer something not in the present time. So something historical or more fantastical. Victorian romance emma is a good one, even if the second season isn't as great as what the manga does.
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2013 20:23
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 30, 2024 10:55 |
|
|
I was into anime for a little while a few years ago but I haven't seen all that much (I watched Cowboy Bebop/Welcome to the NHK and a bunch of movies like Paprika/Perfect Blue/Grave of the Fireflies. I also read Death Note and liked that a lot) Then out of nowhere a couple of weeks ago I somehow started watching Chihayafuru which I loved and I don't really know where to go from that. I guess I'm open to just about anything but I'd prefer some kind of drama. (Also I'm usually not all that into actiony/fantasy stuff if that helps)
|
|
#
?
Oct 20, 2013 20:26
|
|
