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Peanut President posted:I don't really know. I'm not sure why you just wouldn't do counties.
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It seems unlikely that someone went to the trouble of making a map of the pizza chain located closest to a selection of arbitrary points. "Most common pizza chain" is probably what is being plotted; they probably called it "closest" because that is what people look for when choosing between multiple sources of lovely pizza.
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Oct 14, 2013 21:04
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Yeah, majority pizza chain restaurant per county seems like the more sensible thing to depict. A lot of low population counties could easily end up in two or three way ties with "one/two/three of each" though. If there is only one decent sized town, and it has two or three of the chains all within a small area (say, half mile stretch of road, not uncommon in small towns) then what? Edit: Not that that couldn't be an issuer with the 10-mile square things, but by making the areas smaller than the counties, it lessens the chance of it happening. DrBouvenstein fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Oct 14, 2013 |
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Oct 14, 2013 21:07
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Here's a nice cartogram. US states given an amount of land proportionate to their population. Fun twist, it's from 1911 and it's based off numbers from the 1910 Census.  Here's a more recent bulgy cartogram of population. Not 2010, maybe 2000? It's not at all the same but you can still kind of use it for comparison. 
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Oct 14, 2013 21:08
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DrBouvenstein posted:Maybe the center of each square? I doubt it's the centroid of county. It's likely the pizza chain with the highest density because that's really easy to calculate (pop / number of stores). To do an actual density grid is tricky and can be done a few different ways, depending on how the map maker wants to do it. Because the map is poorly worded, I'd go with simple population divided by number of stores equals NEAREST PIZZA TO YOU!
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DrBouvenstein posted:A lot of low population counties could easily end up in two or three way ties with "one/two/three of each" though.
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withak posted:It seems unlikely that someone went to the trouble of making a map of the pizza chain located closest to a selection of arbitrary points. As far as anyone can tell, that's exactly what he did. quote:Most of the major pizza chains are within a 5-mile radius of where I live, so I have my pick, but I usually order from whatever place is closest to where I am. So it doesn't matter if there are more Domino's locations than Pizza Huts where I live. Of course we'll never know for sure, since he doesn't explain his methodology. 8/20, come see me after class.
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Oct 14, 2013 21:11
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This is probably what he did.
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Oct 14, 2013 21:14
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Based on the wording, my guess is that it depicts the mode of closest restaurants among households in each square. That is, the chain which is the closest to the greatest number of respondents, wins. That would make more sense than just counting number of franchises per territory.
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Oct 14, 2013 21:25
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Dusseldorf posted:This really is a very hard to read map. It shows the problem with displaying too much granular data without using binning. I've never heard of this technique before so I looked it up and found this pretty interesting post about it. E: Oh poo poo, I did not realize there is a whole another page after the post I quoted. Sorry about that.
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Oct 14, 2013 21:28
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steinrokkan posted:Based on the wording, my guess is that it depicts the mode of closest restaurants among households in each square. That is, the chain which is the closest to the greatest number of respondents, wins. If the square is small enough that population density inside each square is fairly uniform then they both will probably give you the same answer, assuming there aren't a lot of "the Domino's across the street from the other Domino's" situations out there.
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Oct 14, 2013 21:32
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Bulgy cartograms: ugly abominations that should be used by no-one ever
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Stefu posted:Bulgy cartograms: ugly abominations that should be used by no-one ever I still like that approach better than the 1911 one, which has all sorts of strange stuff going on in it (e.g., "New York" containing no part of New York, etc.)
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Oct 14, 2013 22:06
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DrBouvenstein posted:Now here's a map I'm sure goons will enjoy: I feel just terrible for the handful of counties whose nearest pizza place (whatever the meaning) is Chucky Cheese.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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I was looking for maps of duchies and counties in the Ancien Régime when I came across this set of maps of France: Am I misreading the lower-left map or was the price of salt in Brittany absurdly cheap compared to Paris? Jesus, the old kingdom of France had a clusterfuck of laws.
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Old James posted:I traveled in Europe in the early 90's before ATMs and Automated Kiosks were common. To buy train tickets you had to stand in line for a teller. In Paris, each line had a sign with the flags symbolizing the languages that teller spoke. Some of them had 6-7 flags, it was quite impressive. It's easy to learn enough of a language to do a specialized task. You could sell train tickets with a vocabulary of a few hundred words relating to trains, numbers, and locations, and that can be learned with rote memorization in a few days.
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Ofaloaf posted:I was looking for maps of duchies and counties in the Ancien Régime when I came across this set of maps of France: Basically, it looks salt in the pink zone ("Region of the great salt tax") was hideously expensive compared to everywhere else. Internal trade in France before the late 1600s was completely hosed, with a huge number of different tariffs and taxes and laws that varied from province to duchy to county to town, though that wasn't an uncommon situation in Europe. Establishing internal free trade zones was quite a big deal, if I remember correctly.
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Ofaloaf posted:I was looking for maps of duchies and counties in the Ancien Régime when I came across this set of maps of France: Brittany was more or less autonomous (as were some other provinces) prior to the Revolution and didn't have to pay the salt tax, not to mention the fact that salt was made here at the time. New royal taxes had to be voted on by the états provinciaux. In 1673 the King pushed through a tax on stamped paper without the consent of the local government which caused a sizeable rebellion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnets_Rouges Farecoal posted:Basically, it looks salt in the pink zone ("Region of the great salt tax") was hideously expensive compared to everywhere else. Internal trade in France before the late 1600s was completely hosed, with a huge number of different tariffs and taxes and laws that varied from province to duchy to county to town, though that wasn't an uncommon situation in Europe. Establishing internal free trade zones was quite a big deal, if I remember correctly. Pretty much. On this map the provinces in white could trade freely internally and had uniform tariffs for trading with other provinces. The green provinces had higher tariffs for internal and external trade and the red provinces could trade freely with foreigners but had tariffs for dealing with the rest of France. 
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Oct 15, 2013 06:53
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Come on, I'm sure Americans would love to go visit a town with a single lovely pizzeria/hotdog stand, where the single most common vehicle is a Puch Maxi moped with a milk crate on the back for beers. I dunno, myself and other goons gave around 14K to some dude in a town so he could make a hotdog stand. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Besides, in Germany it would be a lovely Doener Bude :cobert:.
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What state that leads the nation in illicit drug use? Maybe New York, what will all those Studio 54 coke parties. Or California, LA is huge and has lots of all kinds of drugs. Or maybe some small, southern, "backwoods" state like West Virginia where you'd expect a good amount of meth and "hillbilly heroin"? Nope...Vermont:  Then you remember that oh, right, pot is technically illegal for some weird reason, and it all makes sense. I would like to see what the percentage is with pot removed. The closes there is in that series of maps is one just for cocaine, which Vermont is still high (can't tell if it's the highest, but it's the same color as RI and CO, so all around 3%.)  But this one:  Indicates that opiate use isn't a big issue, though the article does state that it's been increasing here the past few years. And then this one:  Illicit drug dependence. Again, VT is towards the top, so I'd like to see what they qualified as "dependence." If it was done by self surveys, then yeah, I believe it. Lots of people, whether joking or no, would definitely say they "need" to smoke up every day/other day/week/whatever. But both you and I know that's not the same thing as opiate or alcohol dependence. Fake edit: Oh, wait, I found the direct link to the actual maps from H&HS, instead of the ones Business Inside made: http://www.samhsa.gov/data/NSDUH/2k11State/NSDUHsaeMaps2011.htm Illicit drug use other than marijuana:  So...yeah, VT is still at least in the top 10.
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States are probably a bad way to measure that. You'd be better off with a location quotient of x type of drug users to the general population vs the national average for that particular drug user type to the national population. You'd also be better of with county level because of the diversity and differences in states, especially rural and urban divide. The last map using quantiles (five groups of ten states) is dumb, you can see the misleading in the legend.
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Oct 15, 2013 17:06
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Narciss posted:Average IQ by Country  Leaving aside the question of validity, do you know which IQ tests were used or what the data collection methodology was?
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Oct 15, 2013 17:11
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Narciss posted:Average IQ by Country The vaunted North Korean education system shines again
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SaltyJesus posted:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_Differences_in_Intelligence It was a meta-analysis of IQ tests performed in studies around the world, I can't tell you more than that. The title of the book reflexively makes me think "yikes", but the author makes some interesting points. He also comes to the conclusion that Ashkenazi Jews are the highest IQ'd people in the world (by ethnic group), which isn't a finding you would expect from some sort of racist with a preset agenda.
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It's just a lazy trolling attempt. The map obviously isn't based on actual data, countries are grouped much too neatly for that. It seems more like a speculative map from the 19th century. 'Pygmies and aboriginals are really primitive, let's put them in the lowest category'. Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Oct 15, 2013 |
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Oct 15, 2013 17:18
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But... isn't the average IQ always 100? I mean it's not like they take the same universal test all over the globe 
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I've seen that map before. It's supposedly the IQ of the indigenous population of each country, not the country in general, which is why Australia is so low. Extremely unlikely to be based on any real data, it's just some racist thing.
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Narciss posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_Differences_in_Intelligence Actually it's exactly the sort of thing you might expect from a racist with a preset agenda. Not all racists are racist against jews you know.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Actually it's exactly the sort of thing you might expect from a racist with a preset agenda. Not all racists are racist against jews you know.
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It is possible that indigenous populations of various places had, in fact, scored lower than others. This is less of a race thing and more a "how the IQ tests are designed" thing. While they attempt to measure "innate ability", whatever that may be, IQ tests often measure mastery over certain learned concepts. People from a culture sufficiently removed from the Western European, who were raised outside of an educational system modeled after the European one (basically all of them) will most likely score significantly lower on a number of widely accepted IQ tests. On the other hand, the borders on that map are way too pretty to represent actual data. It reminds me of that old map, already posted in this thread a couple of times, where ~~enlightened civilizations~~ were represented with a white radiating pattern.
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SaltyJesus posted:On the other hand, the borders on that map are way too pretty to represent actual data. It reminds me of that old map, already posted in this thread a couple of times, where ~~enlightened civilizations~~ were represented with a white radiating pattern. That one was interesting 'cause it was a worldview of people from a couple of centuries ago. This one is just stupid as hell. Where did you find it, Narciss? edit: oh it's on wikipedia quote:World map of average IQ per country based on data in the Richard Lynn book Race Differences in Intelligence (2006) edit 2: oh whoops he already linked that  wikipedia posted:Broadly speaking, Lynn estimates that about half of the IQ deficit of third world races can be explained by inadequate nutrition, while the other half is racially genetic. For example Lynn argues that while Africans living in Africa average IQ 67, African Americans living in the Southern United States (where European admixture is very low) average IQ 80. Lynn believes the latter figure represents their genotypic intelligence, while the IQs in Africa are stunted by malnutrition. reverse-image searching it did send me to this incredibly informative map of IQ versus average penis size, though, so it's not all bad. Koramei fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Oct 15, 2013 |
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Oct 15, 2013 17:45
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Koramei posted:That one was interesting 'cause it was a worldview of people from a couple of centuries ago. This one is just stupid as hell. Where did you find it, Narciss? Nevermind
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Koramei posted:this incredibly informative map of IQ versus average penis size Awww yissssss, big dick with light green IQ represent!
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SaltyJesus posted:Awww yissssss, big dick with light green IQ represent! They threw me out when I tried to have my dick do the IQ test 
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It's good to be European.
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Jerry Cotton posted:They threw me out when I tried to have my dick do the IQ test It's so you wouldn't skew the dick size data downward. 
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Koramei posted:reverse-image searching it did send me to this incredibly informative map of IQ versus average penis size, though, so it's not all bad.
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Jerry Cotton posted:But... isn't the average IQ always 100? I mean it's not like they take the same universal test all over the globe It should be, if the tests were designed correctly. Which leads me to believe that map is complete nonsense.
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