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Joementum posted:Rick Santorum can't help himself, he just has to keep talking about contraception. Apparently he's landed on a new theory: Robespierre wanted to depose the nobility to hand out slut pills. 1:44  With a quote like "WE WILL MAKE YOU..." I hope to god he runs again. The selective editing of that speech for a campaign video would be hilarious. I'm thinking of something like Norm Coleman's ad against Franken when he was bashing a podium like he was Krushchev. (it was during a comedy routine or something)
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Dumb question about the thread title but it's been bothering me for a while: I know who Sen. Agua Bottle is but who is Sen. Aqua Buddha?
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Oct 13, 2013 08:29
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Foo posted:Dumb question about the thread title but it's been bothering me for a while: I know who Sen. Agua Bottle is but who is Sen. Aqua Buddha? Rand Paul.
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Oct 13, 2013 08:31
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Foo posted:Dumb question about the thread title but it's been bothering me for a while: I know who Sen. Agua Bottle is but who is Sen. Aqua Buddha? Google Rand Paul and Aqua Buddha. Here, I'll even do most of the work for you. It's one of the weirder things from the last few elections. Not the weirdest, probably not even in the top ten, but certainly on the other side of the line.
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Oct 13, 2013 08:32
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This is your bed, GOP. You may not enjoy sleeping in it.quote:Sen. Ted Cruz won the Values Voter Summit’s presidential straw poll on Saturday with a plurality of votes against big-name conservatives in the mix for 2016.
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Oct 13, 2013 15:26
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Joementum posted:Rick Santorum can't help himself, he just has to keep talking about contraception. Apparently he's landed on a new theory: Robespierre wanted to depose the nobility to hand out slut pills. Yes, because as we all know, the Church during the French revolution was not very corrupt. It's been a while since I studied the revolution, but wasn't one of the big concerns was the large amount of land that the Catholic church was amassing in France, and since the church owned the land, they couldn't be taxed. I also remember the fact that the nobility paid lower taxes... Oh for gently caress's sake. Santorum is arguing on the side of the Nobility in the French Revolution. If he was in charge, we wouldn't even have Abba's Waterloo!
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Oct 13, 2013 18:18
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TheOneOutside posted:Google Rand Paul and Aqua Buddha. Here, I'll even do most of the work for you. It's one of the weirder things from the last few elections. Not the weirdest, probably not even in the top ten, but certainly on the other side of the line. I didn't know about this. I assumed that "Aqua Buddha" was a reference to Chris Cristie.
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Oct 13, 2013 22:25
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Joementum posted:Rick Santorum can't help himself, he just has to keep talking about contraception. Apparently he's landed on a new theory: Robespierre wanted to depose the nobility to hand out slut pills. He seems upset. I half expected him to turn green during that speech 
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Oct 13, 2013 22:32
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VirtualStranger posted:I didn't know about this. I assumed that "Aqua Buddha" was a reference to Chris Cristie. No, it is definitely Rand Paul. The Aqua Buddha was a big story in the 2010 KY Senate election, Jack Conway even released an ad on it.
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Oct 14, 2013 01:15
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Cemetry Gator posted:Yes, because as we all know, the Church during the French revolution was not very corrupt. It's been a while since I studied the revolution, but wasn't one of the big concerns was the large amount of land that the Catholic church was amassing in France, and since the church owned the land, they couldn't be taxed. I also remember the fact that the nobility paid lower taxes... Yeah it was mainly driven by the other estates such nobility and clergy getting to financially abuse the other groups since medieval times. Basically over concentration of wealth and power eventually causing the collapse of the existing order in a spectacular way.
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Oct 14, 2013 01:43
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Kurt_Cobain posted:This is your bed, GOP. You may not enjoy sleeping in it. Oh poo poo he won a straw poll. This will ever matter! As I recall the RNC or some other group is trying to kill the whole straw poll thing since it's not doing anything but pointing out the wingnuts' favorite candidate.
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Oct 14, 2013 05:08
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etalian posted:Yeah it was mainly driven by the other estates such nobility and clergy getting to financially abuse the other groups since medieval times. And Santorum missed this lesson about the French Revolution. I mean, I seriously don't understand these guys at all. They are aware of history, and yet, it seems like all they know are the events, not the causes. I explained to a libertarian friend of mine that money is sort of like blood. It doesn't matter how much you have in you if it ain't moving and is just getting pooled up. A lot of dead people have all of their blood. It's just not going anywhere.
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Oct 14, 2013 05:13
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Oh poo poo he won a straw poll. This will ever matter! As I recall the RNC or some other group is trying to kill the whole straw poll thing since it's not doing anything but pointing out the wingnuts' favorite candidate. The RNC is trying to kill everything that calls attention to what the clown show actually believes because none of it ever polls as well as Generic Republican does.
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Oct 14, 2013 05:29
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Cemetry Gator posted:And Santorum missed this lesson about the French Revolution. I mean, I seriously don't understand these guys at all. They are aware of history, and yet, it seems like all they know are the events, not the causes. Yeah, I find that motor oil makes a similarly useful metaphor. (I'm sure I'm not the first to use it.)
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Oct 14, 2013 07:55
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Oh poo poo he won a straw poll. This will ever matter! As I recall the RNC or some other group is trying to kill the whole straw poll thing since it's not doing anything but pointing out the wingnuts' favorite candidate. Previous straw poll winners: 2012 - Huckabee 2011 - Ron Paul 2010 - Mike Pence 2009 - Huckabee 2007 - Romney They really know how to pick a winner.
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Oct 14, 2013 14:46
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Keep in mind, Dr. Carson came in 2nd or 3rd in the straw poll. That tells you what that says about these guys. A doctor who said that back in 1831, everyone who completed a second grade education was completely literate, believes in the flat-tax, and compared gays to pedophiles and beastiality-enjoying-people. Yeah. This is a guy who I want running the country. He may be a brilliant surgeon, but that doesn't mean he knows a single thing about politics.
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Oct 14, 2013 23:56
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Oh good, this is just what the Democrats need in 2016.quote:No ears reported any mention of whatever 2016 ambitions Clinton might have. But state Rep. Tom Taylor, R-Dunwoody, said the former first lady dropped a huge hint. “I know she’s running for president now, because toward the end, she was asked about the Osama bin Laden raid. She took 25 minutes to answer,” Taylor said. “Without turning the knife too deeply, she put it to [Vice President Joe] Biden.”
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Oct 16, 2013 12:29
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Joementum posted:Oh good, this is just what the Democrats need in 2016. Wasn't Clinton's (perceived?) hawkishness part of what cost her the primary vs Obama? Or was that swamped out in the rest of the debate?
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Oct 16, 2013 12:39
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Wasn't Clinton's (perceived?) hawkishness part of what cost her the primary vs Obama? Or was that swamped out in the rest of the debate? It was, and it's the chief thing that might make her lose it in 2016 too.
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Oct 16, 2013 13:08
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Quasimango posted:It was, and it's the chief thing that might make her lose it in 2016 too. Or we could go all topsy-turvy, where a Clinton/Paul GE (god help us) makes the Democrats the party of a strong defense and the GOP the party of dovish isolationism
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Oct 16, 2013 14:17
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ManifunkDestiny posted:Or we could go all topsy-turvy, where a Clinton/Paul GE (god help us) makes the Democrats the party of a strong defense and the GOP the party of dovish isolationism In case you hadn't noticed, Obama is Seal Team Sixing random AQ dudes in Libya and Somalia in broad daylight while conducting drone strikes over sovereign states on the daily. Ronnie Raygun would have wet his diapers over the sort of strikes the White House is authorizing these days and there's not a loving peep about it from anyone other than isolationist libertarians, I suppose. Ten years of bad war makes smart war look pretty drat good in comparison, I guess, or everyone's distracted by the domestic kerfluffles we're dealing with to be too mad about it.
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Oct 16, 2013 14:24
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serewit posted:In case you hadn't noticed, Obama is Seal Team Sixing random AQ dudes in Libya and Somalia in broad daylight while conducting drone strikes over sovereign states on the daily. Ronnie Raygun would have wet his diapers over the sort of strikes the White House is authorizing these days and there's not a loving peep about it from anyone other than isolationist libertarians, I suppose. Ten years of bad war makes smart war look pretty drat good in comparison, I guess, or everyone's distracted by the domestic kerfluffles we're dealing with to be too mad about it. It's because anti war sentiments have traditionally had "bring our boys home" as a major plank but now you can do war without having your boys over there in the first place.
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Quasimango posted:It was, and it's the chief thing that might make her lose it in 2016 too. Advocating the raid on Abbottabad is not going to cost her anything. The Iraq vote might still hold some sting 13 years out but you'd need to find someone else who vocally opposed it at the time to run against her.
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ManifunkDestiny posted:Or we could go all topsy-turvy, where a Clinton/Paul GE (god help us) makes the Democrats the party of a strong defense and the GOP the party of dovish isolationism This has really been the alignment for nearly all of the current two party system. I think at some point we're going to realize that the neoconservative influence on the Bush 43 administration, and to a lesser extent the Reagan and Bush 41 administrations, was a historical aberration.
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jeffersonlives posted:This has really been the alignment for nearly all of the current two party system. I think at some point we're going to realize that the neoconservative influence on the Bush 43 administration, and to a lesser extent the Reagan and Bush 41 administrations, was a historical aberration. The slogan when I was a kid was, "Democrats start wars, Republicans cause recessions." The '60s version of "they're all terrible."
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It's not being pro-war that's the potential problem for the Democratic party here, it's that Hillary feels the need to attack Joe Biden on this issue in October 2013. It signals an acrimonious primary ahead that the Democrats would very much prefer to avoid.
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Oct 16, 2013 18:20
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DynamicSloth posted:Advocating the raid on Abbottabad is not going to cost her anything. The Iraq vote might still hold some sting 13 years out but you'd need to find someone else who vocally opposed it at the time to run against her.
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Oct 16, 2013 19:27
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Joementum posted:It's not being pro-war that's the potential problem for the Democratic party here, it's that Hillary feels the need to attack Joe Biden on this issue in October 2013. It signals an acrimonious primary ahead that the Democrats would very much prefer to avoid. The last thing the Democrats need is a repeat of the 2008 primary. Almost made the 2012 GOP primaries look civilized by comparison. Almost.
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A repeat of 2008 requires a competitive primary. I'm sure there will be Clinton spitefulness, but that's inside baseball unless Biden manages to improve his numbers.
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Oct 16, 2013 21:39
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:A repeat of 2008 requires a competitive primary. I'm sure there will be Clinton spitefulness, but that's inside baseball unless Biden manages to improve his numbers. Clinton's support is, once again, a mile wide, but how deep is it? Last time the answer was "not very." I think it's deeper this time, but I also wouldn't bet any money on that holding up against a sitting vice president.
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:A repeat of 2008 requires a competitive primary. I'm sure there will be Clinton spitefulness, but that's inside baseball unless Biden manages to improve his numbers. Even if its not competitive, deliberately dividing the party is not good for its overall health. I think its also an attitude that's likely to create competition. If you're an rear end to people in party they're gonna try to find somebody else to vote for. Strasburgs UCL fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Oct 16, 2013 |
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The Democrats should run Jeb Bush just to see what happens. "Hey, man, we believe about 90% of the same poo poo, but we bet you'll vote against this guy even though he's from your party!" America's government is basically just a bunch of people trolling one another anymore anyway. Why not?
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...what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards the Iowa Caucus to be born? (a goon's thoughts on watching Ted Cruz bloviations this week)
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Oct 17, 2013 00:27
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ReindeerF posted:The Democrats should run Jeb Bush just to see what happens. "Hey, man, we believe about 90% of the same poo poo, but we bet you'll vote against this guy even though he's from your party!" America's government is basically just a bunch of people trolling one another anymore anyway. Why not? I hate to break it to you, but the american government has pretty much always been about trolling people.
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Oct 17, 2013 00:30
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Looking forward to D&D's collective meltdown when Biden brings up Benghazi as a thing Hillary did wrong he will
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serewit posted:In case you hadn't noticed, Obama is Seal Team Sixing random AQ dudes in Libya and Somalia in broad daylight while conducting drone strikes over sovereign states on the daily. Ronnie Raygun would have wet his diapers over the sort of strikes the White House is authorizing these days and there's not a loving peep about it from anyone other than isolationist libertarians, I suppose. Ten years of bad war makes smart war look pretty drat good in comparison, I guess, or everyone's distracted by the domestic kerfluffles we're dealing with to be too mad about it. Good.  Well, not quite as good as even softer power, but rah rah one-state hegemony blah blah whatever.
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jeffersonlives posted:Clinton's support is, once again, a mile wide, but how deep is it? Last time the answer was "not very." I think it's deeper this time, but I also wouldn't bet any money on that holding up against a sitting vice president. A sitting VP has only been elected to the Presidency twice in American history (barring cases where they first ascended through the President's death) once in 1796 and once in 1988. Being VP will help Biden a bit, but the man's already had two floptastic presidential runs under his belt and the current makeup of the Democratic coalition is going to be less receptive to a 73 year old white guy than previous Democratic primaries (who have never seriously considered a candidate that old).
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DynamicSloth posted:A sitting VP has only been elected to the Presidency twice in American history (barring cases where they first ascended through the President's death) once in 1796 and once in 1988. 
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DynamicSloth posted:A sitting VP has only been elected to the Presidency twice in American history (barring cases where they first ascended through the President's death) once in 1796 and once in 1988. Being VP will help Biden a bit, but the man's already had two floptastic presidential runs under his belt and the current makeup of the Democratic coalition is going to be less receptive to a 73 year old white guy than previous Democratic primaries (who have never seriously considered a candidate that old). What about Jefferson or Van Buren?
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