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20 minute time limit. 2 guys start, another guy enters every five minutes for a total of 5 guys. Whoever scored the last pin at the end of 20 minutes was the new champ. So if you were in early you had more chances to get a pin but you also had to deal with a fresh guy coming in to kick rear end. The ECW and World championship Scrambles had new champions crowned. Don't worry though HHH retained in his Scramble Match.
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Hockles posted:There was a match called the championship scramble. The premise was 6 people were in the match, the entrances may have been staggered, I don't remember. There was a time limit to the match, and whoever pinned whoever became interim/current WWE champ. Thus the image. The booking for Unforgiven 2008 was a complete shambles too. Earlier that night HBK demolished Y2J in an unsanctioned street fight and CM Punk whom happened to be WHC at the time gets punted by Orton meaning he couldn't compete. So who do they get as CM Punk's replacement? They send out a broken down Y2J of course that wins the WHC because they wanted Y2J/HBK to be the main focus of the show. It did give use the crazy ladder match between them so it worked out in the end I guess, but like Hockles said it was a decent concept on paper but horrible execution riddled by lovely booking.
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Also, if I remember correctly, it was a legitimate creation of then-GM Mike Adamle.
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Hockles posted:Also, if I remember correctly, it was a legitimate creation of then-GM Mike Adamle. It was AN ADAMLE ORIGINAL.
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Fauxhawk Express posted:It was AN ADAMLE ORIGINAL. I meant more, Mike Adamle actually created/booked the match and explained it to the bookers. Rather than bookers came up with the concept and Adamle walked out there and spoke the words the writers wrote for him that he made the match.
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Fauxhawk Express posted:It was AN ADAMLE ORIGINAL. Jeff Harvey was too. Every time Adamle was on TV you knew it was going to be cringeworthy and not the good kind. The kind where you wish deep down they can pull it off but just fucks it up in spectacular fashion. Everyone that didn't watch wrestling in 2008 watch this tribute and thank the wrasslin gods for Vickie Guerrero and Brad Maddox. The Cosby Mysteries fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Oct 21, 2013 |
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The Cosby Mysteries posted:Everyone that didn't watch wrestling in 2008 watch this tribute and thank the wrasslin gods for Vickie Guerrero and Brad Maddox. Holy christ. How did you people survive?
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re: Brawl For All discussion Its my understanding that JR was largely the one wanting to get Dr Death over and mad when his golden boy looked stupid in a shoot fight with Bart Gunn. Vince Russo couldn't give two shits about the man and only used him in WCW to mock Ross. Is that not the case? oatgan fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Oct 21, 2013 |
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Solomonic posted:Holy christ. How did you people survive? To be fair, the HBK/Jericho feud at the time was really, really good.
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Solomonic posted:Holy christ. How did you people survive? We all didn't. Me for example.
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getitoffgetitoff posted:But could he beat Brock Lesnar??? ...Someone on the forums made the dumbass statement that Meng could kick Brock Lesnar's rear end, didn't they?
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Mea culpa. In my defense (it's a poor defense) I was drunkposting.
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The Cosby Mysteries posted:The booking for Unforgiven 2008 was a complete shambles too. Earlier that night HBK demolished Y2J in an unsanctioned street fight and CM Punk whom happened to be WHC at the time gets punted by Orton meaning he couldn't compete. So who do they get as CM Punk's replacement? They send out a broken down Y2J of course that wins the WHC because they wanted Y2J/HBK to be the main focus of the show.
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Oct 21, 2013 21:10
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The Edge one annoyed me the most because even with the other ones, a GM is making a match or the champion is agreeing to it. Edge straight up just attacked Kofi Kingston and ran into his pod and suffered no repercussions. Like the Seahawks could have just beaten up the 49ers right before the Super Bowl started, run onto the field and been allowed to legally compete. Every title match should just be like the Hardcore title with dozens of wrestlers trying to assault the challenger and take his spot.
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Oct 21, 2013 21:32
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The Cosby Mysteries posted:Jeff Harvey was too. I remember that little T Rex arm slap he gave to Randy even after all these years. This was around the time I was getting back into wrestling after a 4 or 5 year break even haha. Thank god for Michaels-Jericho.
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Glamorama26 posted:...Someone on the forums made the dumbass statement that Meng could kick Brock Lesnar's rear end, didn't they? Questions: Meng is known for being a psychopath outside the ring, but was he stiff/crazy in his matches? Was Brock ever an intimiding guy backstage like Meng? Did he ever injure/stiff people aside from the time Bob Holly tried to sandbag him?
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Tato posted:Like the Seahawks could have just beaten up the 49ers right before the Super Bowl started, run onto the field and been allowed to legally compete. I'm okay with this becoming a thing.
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The scramble match was great I don't know what you fools are talking about.
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I swear they made it out to be more complicated than it was, the constant run down of the rules and screens full of regulations made a simple concept confusing. Whoever has the last pin wins, is basically all they had to say. I think the ECW one was legitimately good, with Matt Hardy dashing back and forth breaking up pins left and right.
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Nick_326 posted:Was Brock ever an intimiding guy backstage like Meng? Did he ever injure/stiff people aside from the time Bob Holly tried to sandbag him? Kurt Angle claims that Lesnar said he was too big for Angle to handle, so they had a wrestling match and Angle won. But Kurt Angle claims a lot of things.
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Tato posted:The Edge one annoyed me the most because even with the other ones, a GM is making a match or the champion is agreeing to it. Edge straight up just attacked Kofi Kingston and ran into his pod and suffered no repercussions. Like the Seahawks could have just beaten up the 49ers right before the Super Bowl started, run onto the field and been allowed to legally compete. Every title match should just be like the Hardcore title with dozens of wrestlers trying to assault the challenger and take his spot. I loving loved the Edge one with the full story of the PPV being that Edge not only lost his title in the earlier Chamber, he was loving eliminated first. It also pushed Edge's "Ultimate Opportunist" gimmick by having him steal a world title in a new way. While wrestling is based on sports, following that thread all the way to the end will not only drive you crazy you'll also end up missing out on a lot of good storylines.
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Tato posted:I swear they made it out to be more complicated than it was, the constant run down of the rules and screens full of regulations made a simple concept confusing. Whoever has the last pin wins, is basically all they had to say. The WHC one was a ton of fun with The Brian Kendrick running around trying to stay champ for like ten minutes. I don't remember anything about the WWE one aside from the dumb finish.
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I liked the scramble and am a little sad the association with Adamle probably will doom it to stay gone forever. It's a unique match with fun psychology.
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Tato posted:I swear they made it out to be more complicated than it was, the constant run down of the rules and screens full of regulations made a simple concept confusing. Whoever has the last pin wins, is basically all they had to say. People on this forum specifically made it sound a lot more complicated than it actually was. "Two guys start, there are timed entrances for 4 more guys, whoever gets the last pin before time expires wins."
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The Championship Scramble was basically just a retread of that Hardcore Invitational they had at whatever Wrestlemania with the Hollys and it was loving dumb as rocks because it should've been near-impossible for anyone to retain their belt. I think it was positioned between HiaC and ladder match title defenses where the people were like oh wow dangerous match they've gotta go all-out for that belt WACKY FREE-FOR-ALL BEAT-THE-CLOCK JOBBERFEST oh jeez somebody could get hurt that belt sure means a lot. In fact, I think the ladder match was HHH vs. Hardy and the angle was HHH didn't want to wrestle in Hardy's signature match because it was an unfair disadvantage when he had just defended his belt against four people at once and anyone could've conspired to lie down for someone else and get pinned because the current champ didn't have to be involved in the pinfall. As a method for crowning a new champ after that bullshit Punk angle, fine. As a match for the 24/7 hardcore title, perfect.
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It didn't help that they constantly referred to them as the "interim WWE champion" - the fact that they used "WWE champion" as a phrase just made it way more confusing than it could be. I remember most of the smarks snipping to each other "heh looks like he's getting 6 title reigns out of this!"
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Top Bunk Wanker posted:People on this forum specifically made it sound a lot more complicated than it actually was. "Two guys start, there are timed entrances for 4 more guys, whoever gets the last pin before time expires wins." You don't understand how much this bugged me. I understood the concept perfectly so seeing people act like they were doing calculus for the first time was confusing
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spongeh posted:It didn't help that they constantly referred to them as the "interim WWE champion" - the fact that they used "WWE champion" as a phrase just made it way more confusing than it could be. I remember most of the smarks snipping to each other "heh looks like he's getting 6 title reigns out of this!" Wario Kart 64 posted:You don't understand how much this bugged me. I understood the concept perfectly so seeing people act like they were doing calculus for the first time was confusing I was the quote above yours that made it confusing. All we were wondering was if the "interim" championship reigns would be recognized as legitimate reigns. They didn't.
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Seriously though, there was a full screen of text every goddamn time they were about to have the match and they explained to rules to us every five minutes. It was so uncomplicated and WWE made it way more ridiculous, possibly as another way of making GBS threads on Adamle.Tato posted:The Edge one annoyed me the most because even with the other ones, a GM is making a match or the champion is agreeing to it. Edge straight up just attacked Kofi Kingston and ran into his pod and suffered no repercussions. Like the Seahawks could have just beaten up the 49ers right before the Super Bowl started, run onto the field and been allowed to legally compete. Every title match should just be like the Hardcore title with dozens of wrestlers trying to assault the challenger and take his spot. It was baffling at the PPV, yeah, but it WAS explained the next week albeit half-assedly. Vickie sanctioned Edge's entry with her magic GM powers when Kofi was unable to compete, thus no ramipercussions.
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Brawl For All Stuff: The original plan was for Dr. Death to win and then to work a programme with Steve Austin to see who was the toughest man in the WWF. If you look at Dr. Death's first match he was racking up a crazy amount of points compared to everyone else in the competition. Seriously it was like every time he threw a punch he got a point. No way would they have put Steve Williams in a shoot boxing match with Butterbean. There's contrasting stories about why Dan Severn dropped out. Either it was at the behest of management or Dan decided to drop out himself as if he did lose a fight it would have had a really bad impact on his MMA career in the future. The wrestlers who signed up for it were paid $5000 a match. Supposedly Brakkus didn't know it was a shoot. Bart Gunn went onto to have some success in Japan based on his reputation as The Man Who Knocked Out Dr. Death.
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I'm pretty sure Patterson came up with the scramble. Or is it Brisco? It's the one who organizes the rumble every year. He's the one who came up with it. Adamale just botched the description pretty badly.
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maxallen posted:I had heard the reason it was done was they had too big a midcard roster with not enough for them to do. So it was the pro wrestling version of the Crusades?
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WeaponX posted:Although his tenure was short, Hillbilly Jim got booked as Hogans buddy when Hogan was getting over huge. There was also a time where he was often booked against the top heels of that era. Also being a comedy relief wrestler for his entire career endeared him a lot to many people who kinda over look his short, non-effectual run (see almost every nostalgic comedy wrestling act). Hillbilly Jim was also the owner of Coliseum Home Video which had exclusive rights to all WWF videos.
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Is Hogan/Rock at Mania 18 Hogan's best match? I really can't think of anything that matches it.
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McNutty posted:Is Hogan/Rock at Mania 18 Hogan's best match? I really can't think of anything that matches it. That or WM6 vs Warrior.
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McNutty posted:Is Hogan/Rock at Mania 18 Hogan's best match? I really can't think of anything that matches it. I would say Warrior at WM6 to be honest e: of course
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Hogan had a few decent matches in Japan in the 1990s where he was busting out enziguris and poo poo. It's kind of surreal to see Hogan chain wrestling. Doesn't have the same big match feel as his match with The Rock, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxEDfufiwto
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Zack_Gochuck posted:Hogan had a few decent matches in Japan in the 1990s where he was busting out enziguris and poo poo. It's kind of surreal to see Hogan chain wrestling. Doesn't have the same big match feel as his match with The Rock, though. I wonder why he tried harder over there, maybe he knew the audience would poo poo on him if he just did the moves of doom.
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Z-Magic posted:Brawl For All Stuff: The one I heard was that Severn was getting shafted on points for takedowns, realized that the shoot was being worked & pulled out. Bigass Moth posted:I wonder why he tried harder over there, maybe he knew the audience would poo poo on him if he just did the moves of doom. This is exactly it. Hogan doesn't work harder than he has to, which ended up being pretty smart considering he's a physical wreck despite having half-assed workrate for the majority of his run on top.
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Hogan was actually a possibility to take the IWGP title in 1993, but he cut a promo for New Japan calling the WWF Title (which he held at the time) a toy and how the IWGP was the real title. Muta explained to Inoki that, if Hogan was willing to just talk poo poo about a company's top title to suck up to another company, it would be stupid to give him the IWGP belt, and Inoki agreed. Not particularly relevant, but I just like to see Hogan of all people getting politic-ed OUT of a title, especially by Mutoh.
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