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Midnight City
Jun 3, 2013

A 10% levy on BAKED GOODS?!

Or he could because this is the only thread we have left where we can freely poo poo on a show that's so bad even the mods don't care because it's at a point where the showrunner is writing both himself and his wife into the show to be constantly getting raped.

Also the show has no plot, no repercussions for any decision ever made and fifty other superfluous reasons nobody should even need to list because of the whole rape thing.

tl;dr version: The thread has gone hood

Or in video version:

Midnight City fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Oct 23, 2013

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haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Yeah I mean until "The Following" comes back, this is as bad (good) as it's gonna get.

Devour
Dec 18, 2009

by angerbeet

Midnight City posted:

Or he could because this is the only thread we have left where we can freely poo poo on a show that's so bad even the mods don't care because it's at a point where the showrunner is writing both himself and his wife into the show to be constantly getting raped.

Also the show has no plot, no repercussions for any decision ever made and fifty other superfluous reasons nobody should even need to list because of the whole rape thing.
You're angry about violence in a show about an outlaw MC. Cool.

Yeah the plot isn't really great, but reading shitposts about how much one hates it every other post for the past few months gets pretty old.

Who gives a poo poo if he writes himself or his wife into those situations. If they weren't comfortable with doing it then they obviously wouldn't have done it. You're trying to take the moral high ground on a show that markets itself on violence.

Bitching about violence on TV/film should've ended in the 90s. Even Fox News doesn't do this anymore.

BrandonGK
May 6, 2005

Throw it out the airlock.
Who the hell is bitching about tv violence? We're just really tired of Sutter's rape fetish.

Devour
Dec 18, 2009

by angerbeet

BrandonGK posted:

Who the hell is bitching about tv violence? We're just really tired of Sutter's rape fetish.
Last I checked rape is considered violence.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Christ.

:psyduck:

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
This is a dumb show and people who watch it for the serious storylines are dumb. The only correct way to watch this show is as an .mp4 file in VLC in a small window while something more important happens elsewhere.

I loved the gang messing with the small town cops in the last episode, that's what this show needs to get back to. Stop trying to pull the Gus Fring big bad guy plots off and go back to being some kind of hosed up frat house like S1.

bring back old gbs fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Oct 23, 2013

Ghostpilot
Jun 22, 2007

"As a rule, I never touch anything more sophisticated and delicate than myself."

Midnight City posted:


Or in video version:



Smash cut to :byodame: Gemma flipping out in the middle of a police station and pushing cops over tables.

Edit: vvv For saying something that happened in the last episode? :confused:

Ghostpilot fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Oct 23, 2013

texaholic
Sep 16, 2007

Well it's floodin' down in Texas
All of the telephone lines are down
6 years on SA now and I believe that poster above is the first time I have ever decided to ignore someone.

Ghostpilot
Jun 22, 2007

"As a rule, I never touch anything more sophisticated and delicate than myself."
I won't be able to catch the live watch, but 2 minutes until the crow flies straight, people!

I'm actually kinda looking forward to this episode with the potential turn for the better that last week promised us.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Hell yea Ratboy is getting patched in!!

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Officially the most ridiculous chase song ever.

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002
This music really doesn't help this sequence from being one over the top ridiculous scene after scene

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Hahahahaha I love how convoluted this Tara storyline is. It's so much better than the IRA bullshit.

passgo
Dec 30, 2008
Hahahaha Tara setting up Gemma for giving her a miscarriage, SUTTER YOU'VE DONE IT AGAIN!


edit- queue montage

passgo fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Oct 23, 2013

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



KEEP THAT BUTT RAPE DOWN IM TRYIN TO SLEEP HERE.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

That rape was so necessary

texaholic
Sep 16, 2007

Well it's floodin' down in Texas
All of the telephone lines are down
KURT SUTTER CRASH THIS SHOW

cochise
Sep 11, 2011


This episode was so over the loving top. I love it.

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Tara is the best. I hope she gets the kids out of Charming and starts her own motorcycle club.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
What the hell is the deal with the extra long episodes? Do they just not give a gently caress. What's the story behind that?


This is so loving crazy they brought back the transgender character which I like that actor but seriously that whole " Yeah let's introduce child rape or something".

Hollismason fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Oct 23, 2013

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

I kinda stopped watching at the end. Did Robocop actually get rid of the dead body or is he going to give it to Claudette?

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
Just got to the chase, worst chase music ever.


The only book anyone on this show has read is The Prince, seriously these people make the most intricate plots and conspiracies. Like what this is the craziest plot.

Well not surprised to see Kurt worked in some rape.

Hollismason fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Oct 23, 2013

SAMB0
Jul 9, 2004

Space Bear.
Destroyer of Worlds.
This show is awesome.

JK!
May 10, 2007

EZ-PZ!
I could be wrong but this time the prison buttsex looked consensual. It was totally unnecessary but, y'know, Sutter and all.

EgillSkallagrimsson
May 6, 2007
Remember how spotting Observers was a thing in Fringe? They should just make rape be this show's Observer. A rapey Where's Waldo, if you will.:downs:

Devour
Dec 18, 2009

by angerbeet
Wow Tara is a total bitch. So Wendy was on Tara's side all along? Is that the impression I'm getting?

Also I was waiting for the encounter between Clay and Nero in jail. Too bad it didn't happen.

metachronos
Sep 11, 2001

When I roll, baby I roll DEEP
Sutter needs to lay off the montages with the trying-to-hard-to-be-poignant music. It makes it feel cheap and forced if you do it every episode. It really takes the viewer out of it when you have a dude getting loving reamed in it. Jesus.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Stay Out of FYAD posted:

Wow Tara is a total bitch. So Wendy was on Tara's side all along? Is that the impression I'm getting?

Looked more like Tara manipulated Wendy as well. The look on Wendy's face when everyone barged into the exam room after Tara's faked miscarriage pretty much summed up the audience reaction.

And yay Adrienne Barbeau, proving with just a handful of dialogue she would've been a far better choice to play Gemma. And what's up with the tonal mismatches? Barbeau's crazy evil mom rant's what finally gets to Jax about the life he's setting his children up into following, and then the let's all be sad now montage song after Tara's stupid power play to ruin the Teller family a little further, even if it's for somewhat sane and noble purposes.


Also you guys that was totally run of the mill consensual jail sex. Seems like none of you ever did serious time. Man's gotta get his nut, ya know?

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
I didn't expect a belly flop into the corner of a desk.

Devour
Dec 18, 2009

by angerbeet

comes along bort posted:

Looked more like Tara manipulated Wendy as well. The look on Wendy's face when everyone barged into the exam room after Tara's faked miscarriage pretty much summed up the audience reaction.
After watching that part again I think you're right.

Also I think Tara's plan isn't going to go as well as she hoped, judging from the conversations between Unser/Tara & Gemma/Roosevelt in next weeks promo.

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

comes along bort posted:

Looked more like Tara manipulated Wendy as well. The look on Wendy's face when everyone barged into the exam room after Tara's faked miscarriage pretty much summed up the audience reaction
Wendy started having second thoughts about the scheme last week because Gemma's been ~so nice~ to her. You know, the woman who gave her heroin while she was in the hospital after ODing and giving birth with the express intent that she kill herself.

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
drat, now I hate Tara as much as I hate Gemma and Wendy. I guess that means I want them all to die in a fire.

At this point Sutter's men's rights agenda is a notch worse than the constant rape. I hate to think of what Jax will do when he realizes how utterly and devastatingly Tara's screwed him.

Midnight City
Jun 3, 2013

A 10% levy on BAKED GOODS?!

Now that the show is just full blown parody levels it's so much more fun to watch. Thanks for working in a random child rape pedophile ring Sutter, we really wouldn't have been able meet the week's quota without it since the prison scene could've been consensual.

It's still downright silly even for a parody that we had a season long arc of someone being outed as part black and so concerned it would lead to his instant booting that he turned into a rat, when the rest of the club is completely okay with loving transvestites and kidnapping children to put into the custody of one.

Not that there's anything wrong with trans people, it's just there's no way in hell a club vehemently against blacks being allowed in it would ever be okay with trans people.

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
I thought that arc ended with the Sons laughing off Juice's blackness and joking about how the rules needed an update.

Ghostpilot
Jun 22, 2007

"As a rule, I never touch anything more sophisticated and delicate than myself."
Annnd away we go! ...with a montage.

Huh, everything's incinerated excepted the wooden gavel, table and their pictures. May want to make the next clubhouse out of those, fellas. I wonder if their insurance covers bombings from disgruntled Irish terrorists.

Nero's in the slammer with the look of someone who's finally come to the realization that the only thing Gemma brings into your life is ruin.

Huh. About time the media acknowledges the absolute lack of progress in the school shooting. And CCH looks so much better with her natural hair. Was she stuck in that ridiculous wig for half the season just for that reveal in the bathroom?

Oh hey, this guy who's name I've totally forgotten -- Deputy Hale's brother! Are he and the Sons on good terms now? I thought there was static between them over that housing development deal a season or two ago. Well that and his brother being killed in an attack meant for the Sons.

"Buying these people out for fifty cents on the dollar. Who's the real bad guy, here? :smug:" Uh...you guys: the Sons. Someone needs to catch you up on what's been happening under Jax's regime in your absence, Bobby.

Guys, your clubhouse was just blown up and Jacob just said that he had a hard time getting your new ice cream parlor hideout. Could you at least take off your cuts before sweeping the sidewalk and washing the windows in broad daylight on a busy street?

I really hope that they start selling ice cream (in their cuts) to maintain their front.


As I said last episode, CCH is giving this show some much needed tension and the law enforcement some real bite. The people of Charming must be on the verge of torches and pitchforks with as ineffectual as the police have been in this town.

"Let's just keep lookin' for ways to earn that doesn't put us in the fire. If you guys come up with any ideas, please bring them to the table." Ice cream! They could make waffle cones with your reaper logo! Think about it: the Juice Pop. The Happy Cone. The Bobby Elvis Sundae!

Oh you poor charter-jumpin' bastards. You have no idea what Bobby's roped you into. I don't know what your names are, so I'll just come up with my own: First, Second and Third. Good luck lasting the season!

Ha, this feels like a first season episode with how they're messing with Ratboy. Man, I sure hope your luck's better than Filthy Phil's (or at the very least, have a less gruesome death).

Whoa, intro sequence 15 minutes into the episode. Talk about jarring.

I can't wait to hear how they propose the idea of Clay running guns while in prison on an air-tight murder charge.

Aww, Nero's as happy to see Venus as we are! :neckbeard:


Tig's absolutely bursting out of his pants right now at the thought of making a banana split with Venus.

:stonk: Just when you think it couldn't get any lower, Sutter breaks out the pickaxe. I'm gonna need a shower after this episode.

:sigh: Jesus Christ Count: 1 (not counting Nero's).

God, it's so refreshing to see some real, genuine emotion on this show.

I have a new hero, and it's CCH Pounder! Damned if I can remember her character's name, though.

Is that Adrianne Barbe--what. is. this. music? And it's for a chase scene?! Are they going to drive through a fruit market? Will cream pies be thrown?

Venus has just gone gun crazy!



Why are you guys stopping?! She just unloaded a full clip into a car! LEAVE THE SCENE OF THE CRIME!

Why am I not surprised that Jax is still unable to grasp the concept of a desperate parent doing everything in their power to rescue their kid from a kidnapper? Much less an established pederast.

See? This is what I mean about Sutter not understanding what tension is. A chase scene, tires squealing, bullets flying everywhere, windshields being blown out in the middle of a street in broad daylight and they just have a casual conversation for several minutes with nary the sound of a siren to be heard.

:sigh: Jesus Christ Count: 2.


So we're really diving into the child porn angle, huh? Ugh. :negative:

See Jax? That could've been Abel a few seasons ago!

Aw c'mon guys, you could've given Venus that one. Also, why are you letting them go? They're involved in the ring, too!

Alice is begging for that bullet. Have to hand it to Sutter to outdo himself in making an utterly reprehensible character on this.

Annnd there's the bullet. :commissar: Not for nothing, Kurt, but it doesn't help your cause when you let the male child porn ringers go unscathed and shoot the female one in the head. Ugh.


And heeeeere's Gemma! :byodame:: "Is scenery on the menu?"

:gonk: There had to be an easier, less grotesque way of doing that, but hey, whatever gets lunatic Gemma locked up. But seriously...that deserves a :gonkbarf: emoticon.
So...was that the blood pack or did she actually go through with it when Gemma refused to gut punch her? If it was the blood pack, are these half dozen doctors and nurses accomplices? If not, Tara's become as monstrous as Gemma. If not moreso.

That had to have been pushing fifteen minutes worth of montage total. And seriously, who are letting their kids go, alone and at night, into the biker-run ice cream parlor for candy? Also, why am I looking at gratuitous prison sex? (To be fair, that one could've been consensual.) Why are these two questions following each other? :psyduck:

Well, the cringe-worthy subject matter aside, this was one of the strongest episodes of the season. Unsurprisingly, it centered on a storyline separate from the plodding main plot and had guest stars do much of the heavy-lifting. Sadly this virtually assures that this'll be the last we'll see of Venus Van Damme. But she was a bright spot to this season, as she was last season. Of course, the side effect of this is that Walter Goggins' presence reminds me of a much better show (Justified).

And finally, finally someone puts madwoman Gemma in check. This was a long time coming after Gemma basically treated Tara like her puppet for the past few seasons. It won't stick, of course, but at least Tara's finally done something. Even if it was utterly horrific and basically turns Tara into Gemma 2.0 in the process. It's crazy to think that the former heroin addict is far and away the best person for these kids.

(Speaking of Wendy, what was with that whole subplot of her faking a beating to get a gun from Gemma? Is that going anywhere?)

Actually, I take that back: Venus Van Damme is the best person for Jax's kids.


Anyway, I think you'd have to really wrack your brain to find someone who reviles women in as much Sutter does. I mean, :wtc:. It's really becoming disturbing, and that's saying something after 6 1/2 seasons of this show. Was Venus' story in any way autobiographical, Kurt? The only woman that is treated with any respect by every person she's encounters (aside from her mother) is Venus Van Damme: a transgendered woman. Makes you think.

Now if you're excuse me, I think it's about time for that shower.

Ghostpilot fucked around with this message at 09:30 on Oct 23, 2013

Dead Snoopy
Mar 23, 2005
Kurt Sutter won't rest until I download EVERY Joshua Jackson song

Ghostpilot
Jun 22, 2007

"As a rule, I never touch anything more sophisticated and delicate than myself."

nooneofconsequence posted:

I kinda stopped watching at the end. Did Robocop actually get rid of the dead body or is he going to give it to Claudette?

They didn't elaborate any further in the montage, but I suspect he'll let it pass as Jax was doing the decent thing (y'know, within the context of this show). I kinda hope that this is the case, otherwise they'll have to explain the hows and whys of it all and the stench of this whole :pedo: angle will hang around for another couple episodes.

Devour
Dec 18, 2009

by angerbeet

Midnight City posted:

It's still downright silly even for a parody that we had a season long arc of someone being outed as part black and so concerned it would lead to his instant booting that he turned into a rat, when the rest of the club is completely okay with loving transvestites and kidnapping children to put into the custody of one.

Not that there's anything wrong with trans people, it's just there's no way in hell a club vehemently against blacks being allowed in it would ever be okay with trans people.
You're right.

Trying to compare Sons of Anarchy to a real MC like the Hells Angels is just a joke. In season one it's revealed that the Sons only sell guns, but not illegal drugs! :lol::lol: Also the antagonists for the first two seasons of this show were white supremacist/Aryan Brotherhood gangs, when in reality the Hells Angels work with Aryan gangs, especially the locked up MC members. Of course they couldn't depict this in the show because then no one would watch it.

Also, SAMCRO women are treated phenomenally well compared to women in an actual real MC. There are ZERO women like Gemma with power over members and one wouldn't dare disrespect a club member. They are literally treated like slaves, nothing more. So it's amusing when fuckwads like that poster a few posts up are calling Sutter an MRA.

Throughout this show SoA as always preferred to ally itself with minority gangs. All of these are an obvious intent on the writers behalf.

Ghostpilot posted:

Annnd away we go! ...with a montage.
...
I definitely wouldn't be taking the time to write this much bullshit about a show I hate. Whatever.

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Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.

Stay Out of FYAD posted:


Also, SAMCRO women are treated phenomenally well compared to women in an actual real MC. There are ZERO women like Gemma with power over members and one wouldn't dare disrespect a club member. They are literally treated like slaves, nothing more. So it's amusing when fuckwads like that poster a few posts up are calling Sutter an MRA.


I don't think you "get" MRA's. They believe women have way too much power, more than they should and more than men do, and are manipulative psycho bitches who force men to do things, steal their children (or deliberately get knocked up through deceit to extort money, they're not clear on this) and generally are making it so men are second class citizens.

Depicting something close to the reality, where women involved with MCs have no power and don't gently caress over the menfolk is what would be counter to the MRA agenda, which is to paint an unfair and unrealistic picture of women as the ones with the REAL malevolent power.

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