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ZippySLC
Jun 3, 2002


~what is art, baby dont post, dont post, no more~

no seriously don't post

VomitOnLino posted:

You could try certo6.com ... don't know about any other "Folder specialists" out there... Had a so-so experience with him.
Might be expensive, though.


Ah sorry, I worded it badly.
With automatic frame counter, I mean automatic frame spacing. E.g. you line up the arrows when loading the film, the camera then does the rest. It definitely has that as all automatics do.
It does not have the Rolleiflex' automatic film sensing, that'd be quite crazy!

Oh, right. Yeah, I am sure I'm going to mess up my first roll of film trying to load this thing.

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ZippySLC
Jun 3, 2002


~what is art, baby dont post, dont post, no more~

no seriously don't post
Here's the Six. My apologies for the completely lovely cell phone pictures.







Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads
I've changed my mind on using one of those Eskimo tents for a portable darkroom after doing some reading, and I think I might get one of those :420: hydroponic :420: grow tents instead. They're designed to be light tight and have air ventilation, just have to fiddle with the zip to get it to work from the other direction.

alkanphel
Mar 24, 2004

Provia 100F


Mailboxes, Sin Ming, 2013 by alkanphel, on Flickr


Sin Ming, 2013 by alkanphel, on Flickr

Mannequin
Mar 8, 2003










Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
Just got a pretty good deal on

Sinar F2
Rodenstock 150mm f/5.6 Sironar-N
Schneider Super Angulon 90mm f/8
buncha film holders etc etc

Should receive sooner rather than later hopefully. Super excited.
Can't wait to get this huge rear end loving bag of film developed.
I found a small light leak in one of my a12 backs a few days ago, pulled the dark slide out and some foam came with it. I hope it hasn't been there long otherwise god knows how many rolls i've put through.

Next on list is v700 and developing stuff.

Wooo

Sludge Tank fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Oct 19, 2013

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads

Sludge Tank posted:

Just got a pretty good deal on

Sinar F2
Rodenstock 150mm f/5.6 Sironar-N
Schneider Super Angulon 90mm f/8
buncha film holders etc etc

Should receive sooner rather than later hopefully. Super excited.
Can't wait to get this huge rear end loving bag of film developed.

Next on list is v700 and developing stuff.

Wooo

Awesome! Look into getting a Mod54 reel for dev to make your life infinitely less painful.

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
Noted! Thanks..! Very keen to stop blowing money on sending rolls into a lab.
I don't have access to a laundry/sink that is lightproofable, so is tray development out of the question?

Also just out of curiosity, is there any way of fitting an A12 back to the F2?

Sludge Tank fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Oct 19, 2013

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads

Sludge Tank posted:

Noted! Thanks..! Very keen to stop blowing money on sending rolls into a lab.
I don't have access to a laundry/sink that is lightproofable, so is tray development out of the question?

You need a light tight room do tray developing, you can do the taco method with 4x5 in a tank, but the results tend be pretty mixed, the mod54 reel fixes that.

MrBlandAverage
Jul 2, 2003

GNNAAAARRRR

Sludge Tank posted:

Also just out of curiosity, is there any way of fitting an A12 back to the F2?

Well, there's these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moveable-Adapter-For-Hasselblad-V-Back-To-Linhof-Sinar-Toyo-Wista-Horseman-4x5-/370906480594

But I think you're better served getting a rollfilm back meant for 4x5 in the first place, like the Graflex backs: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Graflex-Graphic-22-Roll-Film-Back-120-Film-6x6-FOR-4x5-graflex-back-film-/221300198583

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

TEAM NVIDIA:
FORUM POLICE
e: wrong F2

Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Oct 19, 2013

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
Returned the Super Angulon 90mm f/8, going to save up for the f/4.5. Only a couple of hundred more... good choice?

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

Sludge Tank posted:

Returned the Super Angulon 90mm f/8, going to save up for the f/4.5. Only a couple of hundred more... good choice?

Why would you want a f/4.5 version?
Assuming that's not a typo. It offers little, but a brighter focusing screen. It's also much more expensive, heavier and larger.
And probably not that much brighter comparing to the f/5.6 version as that's not even a full stop brighter, as opposed to f/8 vs f/5.6.

Yes, the f/8 is a bit dark on the ground glass, a fact that's already completely alleviated with the f/5.6 version. But I found that if you have a good dark-cloth it matters little, it's not like you're going to be shooting action. At least that was my impression, from my time playing around with the stuff on a friend's loaner camera.

MrBlandAverage
Jul 2, 2003

GNNAAAARRRR

Sludge Tank posted:

Returned the Super Angulon 90mm f/8, going to save up for the f/4.5. Only a couple of hundred more... good choice?

There isn't an f/4.5 large format Super Angulon 90mm, though there is an f/5.6. If the f/5.6 is only a couple hundred more, either you're getting an amazing deal on the f/5.6 or you got ripped off on the f/8.

If you're talking about the Nikkor-SW 90mm f/4.5 - it's brighter than the f/8, sure, but it's not as sharp.

I'd have stuck with what you had.

eggsovereasy
May 6, 2011

MrBlandAverage posted:

There isn't an f/4.5 large format Super Angulon 90mm, though there is an f/5.6. If the f/5.6 is only a couple hundred more, either you're getting an amazing deal on the f/5.6 or you got ripped off on the f/8.

On keh the f/5.6 is about 150 more than an f/8.

I've been looking at 90mm lenses and the Nikkor SW and the Rodenstock Grandagon both seem like winners to me. They have large image circles, with the Nikon being a little larger, but the Grandagon gets a bit more light for focusing since it's f/6.8. Am I right in assuming that I can't go wrong with either lens?

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
derp sorry I meant f5.6.

e: 5.6 has larger image circle than f/8? Considering it's not that much more than the f/8, does this make it worthwhile?

Still have chance to cancel my cancellation... read a KR review who said that the 5.6 was a little preferable over the 8 for GG visibility and slightly larger image circle...? Or is this really splitting hairs?

Sludge Tank fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Oct 20, 2013

MrBlandAverage
Jul 2, 2003

GNNAAAARRRR

Sludge Tank posted:

derp sorry I meant f5.6.

e: 5.6 has larger image circle than f/8? Considering it's not that much more than the f/8, does this make it worthwhile?

Still have chance to cancel my cancellation... read a KR review who said that the 5.6 was a little preferable over the 8 for GG visibility and slightly larger image circle...? Or is this really splitting hairs?

eggsovereasy posted:

On keh the f/5.6 is about 150 more than an f/8.

I've been looking at 90mm lenses and the Nikkor SW and the Rodenstock Grandagon both seem like winners to me. They have large image circles, with the Nikon being a little larger, but the Grandagon gets a bit more light for focusing since it's f/6.8. Am I right in assuming that I can't go wrong with either lens?

I did forget there was an older, non-XL f/5.6. I'd still take the f/8 for the smaller size - I never use even the f/8 wide open. If you're planning to use a wide angle lens wide open and you really want the extra stop, sure...

Eggsovereasy, between the Nikkor-SW f/8 and the Grandagon I'd take the Nikkor. I can't overstate how sharp it is.

bellows lugosi
Aug 9, 2003

The Nikkor-SW 90mm f/8 is the sharpest lens I've used on 4x5. I'm still able to focus with it at EV 0, although it takes a bit of concentration.

alkanphel
Mar 24, 2004

Velvia 50


Little Garden 1, Serangoon North, 2013 by alkanphel, on Flickr


Little Garden 2, Serangoon North, 2013 by alkanphel, on Flickr

notlodar
Sep 11, 2001

Took Fuji GSW690III to a loving weird rear end jungle in Costa Rica. I somehow had a chance to snap some shots when I wasn't swatting away mosquitoes that were trying me through my shirt while trying to dodge bullet ants. Now I know why the "bushmaster" (our tour guide) was wearing a parka and jeans when it was 90+ degrees.




Genderfluid
Jun 18, 2009

my mom is a slut

notlodar posted:

Took Fuji GSW690III to a loving weird rear end jungle in Costa Rica. I somehow had a chance to snap some shots when I wasn't swatting away mosquitoes that were trying me through my shirt while trying to dodge bullet ants. Now I know why the "bushmaster" (our tour guide) was wearing a parka and jeans when it was 90+ degrees.






you need to either rescan these or reprocess them so that they don't look like you turned contrast to 11

notlodar
Sep 11, 2001

They look good on my (supposedly calibrated) monitor, but on this iphone not so much. I'll have to see how they (digitally) print.

PushingKingston
Feb 25, 2005

What a BEARtiful face I have found in this place that is circling all round the sun.
Yeah, my monitor is calibrated too and they're definitely contrasty, but I feel it really works with the images.

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine
I think the second one is pretty cool. Not a fan of including film borders in images though.

MrBlandAverage
Jul 2, 2003

GNNAAAARRRR

Reichstag posted:

I think the second one is pretty cool. Not a fan of including film borders in images though.

But otherwise how can people tell how cool I am for using film??

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007
Aaalmost through my big backlog of B&W to be developed, loaded the last roll of 120 last night. Also have it in the tank with a roll of 35mm, which I realized it's been at least 2 years since I developed. The cursing and fumbling with a bottle opener in the dark really took me back, heh.


This one's pretty dope. And welcome back!

MrBlandAverage posted:

But otherwise how can people tell how cool I am for using film??

Paging McMadcow

notlodar
Sep 11, 2001

MrBlandAverage posted:

But otherwise how can people tell how cool I am for using film??
It's tough, man. There's even a border thing on instagram. How can I show THESE PEOPLE that I am better than them. Or at least get them to stop asking about what filter I used.

Reichstag posted:

I think the second one is pretty cool. Not a fan of including film borders in images though.
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Chill Callahan
Nov 14, 2012
I think the high contrast looks nice with a few of them

alkanphel
Mar 24, 2004

Some more Acros!


Weathered Wood, Little India, 2012 by alkanphel, on Flickr


Redhill, 2012 by alkanphel, on Flickr

notlodar
Sep 11, 2001

PushingKingston posted:

Yeah, my monitor is calibrated too and they're definitely contrasty, but I feel it really works with the images.


Reichstag posted:

I think the second one is pretty cool. Not a fan of including film borders in images though.


Chill Callahan posted:

I think the high contrast looks nice with a few of them
for reals answer: I like 2, 3, and 4, and 4 needs some tuning. I was thinking with high contrast and shapes in mind because this rain forest was really dark. I think the series works better with an image like the first included, but it just has so much blackness. I haven't processed the other images yet, so I would also hope there's some contrast with this sub-series and the other sub-series the images themselves.

Mannequin
Mar 8, 2003

I like this one a lot.



Awkward Davies
Sep 3, 2009
Grimey Drawer
My girlfriends father just sent me 12 rolls of black and white tmax film. Two questions:

1: The film is all expired by at least 7 years, but has been stored in a fridge that entire time. It's currently residing in mine after being shipped across the country. Anyone know whether that's going to make an appreciable (negative) impact on the image?
2: Actually my second question is stupid, never mind.

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

Awkward Davies posted:

My girlfriends father just sent me 12 rolls of black and white tmax film. Two questions:

1: The film is all expired by at least 7 years, but has been stored in a fridge that entire time. It's currently residing in mine after being shipped across the country. Anyone know whether that's going to make an appreciable (negative) impact on the image?
2: Actually my second question is stupid, never mind.

Well, let's go over the basics, in order of importance:

1. Frozen or chilled film keeps pretty well, as the fridge not only keeps it cool, but also is a metal enclosure. (Radiation)
2. Low speed film keeps better than fast film.
3. Color negative keeps better than slide, black and white better than both.
4. Medium format keeps better than 35, this is probably due to cartridges vs vacuum sealed baggies.

Considering all that, you should be OK shooting that T-Max at box speed (if ISO 100) or maybe something like 320 if it's the 400 speed version.
T-Max is quite forgiving, not as much as Tri-X but it still takes some abuse.

Awkward Davies
Sep 3, 2009
Grimey Drawer

VomitOnLino posted:

Well, let's go over the basics, in order of importance:

1. Frozen or chilled film keeps pretty well, as the fridge not only keeps it cool, but also is a metal enclosure. (Radiation)
2. Low speed film keeps better than fast film.
3. Color negative keeps better than slide, black and white better than both.
4. Medium format keeps better than 35, this is probably due to cartridges vs vacuum sealed baggies.

Considering all that, you should be OK shooting that T-Max at box speed (if ISO 100) or maybe something like 320 if it's the 400 speed version.
T-Max is quite forgiving, not as much as Tri-X but it still takes some abuse.

Woah wait, freezing film doesnt have any negative effects?

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

VomitOnLino posted:

Well, let's go over the basics, in order of importance:

1. Frozen or chilled film keeps pretty well, as the fridge not only keeps it cool, but also is a metal enclosure. (Radiation)
2. Low speed film keeps better than fast film.
3. Color negative keeps better than slide, black and white better than both.
4. Medium format keeps better than 35, this is probably due to cartridges vs vacuum sealed baggies.

Considering all that, you should be OK shooting that T-Max at box speed (if ISO 100) or maybe something like 320 if it's the 400 speed version.
T-Max is quite forgiving, not as much as Tri-X but it still takes some abuse.

Gotta keep that film underground if you're really worried.

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

Awkward Davies posted:

Woah wait, freezing film doesnt have any negative effects?

All my film is frozen. This includes black and white, color negatives and slides. All of a wide range of speeds. Also new film, expired film, and very expired film.

I have yet to see any negative effects from it. I'm sure other dorkroomers are able to corroborate.
The only thing is, before shooting either move it into the fridge, or let it sit unopened until it has adjusted to your shooting climate. You don't want condensation in your camera or on your film, especially with medium format, where it would make a huge mess with the backing paper and easily could jam up your camera.

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

horny is prohibited

Awkward Davies posted:

1: The film is all expired by at least 7 years, but has been stored in a fridge that entire time. It's currently residing in mine after being shipped across the country. Anyone know whether that's going to make an appreciable (negative) impact on the image?

You might notice a slight loss of speed. APUG consensus seems to be about 1/2 stop to 1 full stop per decade, but I've shot (in the last year) mid-70s Verichrome Pan at box speed and called it good. E6 starts going weird relatively quickly, but any slow-to-mid-speed black-and-white (except PanF for some reason) will be fine even if he left it in the back of a sock drawer. Maybe overexpose 1/3 or 1/2 stop if you're feeling conservative.

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads

Awkward Davies posted:

Woah wait, freezing film doesnt have any negative effects?

Other than what VomitOnLino said about making sure there you minimise any chance of condensation when brining up to room temperature there should be any problems.

But I've heard from a Kodak guy on a podcast (I think thats where it was from), that freezing doesn't keep the film any longer than just keeping it at <4C (or there a bouts) in a fridge with regards to prolonging the life of the film.

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

Spedman posted:

Other than what VomitOnLino said about making sure there you minimise any chance of condensation when brining up to room temperature there should be any problems.

But I've heard from a Kodak guy on a podcast (I think thats where it was from), that freezing doesn't keep the film any longer than just keeping it at <4C (or there a bouts) in a fridge with regards to prolonging the life of the film.

Yeah, I've heard that, too.

I keep it in the freezer anyway, because:
a) My fridge isn't set at 4°C because that'd be a waste -- and
b) I have more space in the freezer.

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Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads
Apologies for the atrocious grammar in my last post, jet-lag taking over.

I think most people who hoard film tend to use those very big/deep freezers as you can't really get a cheap fridge that size, plus colder usually means better if you're trying to store something long term. I've just got a little bar-fridge for film as the lady of the house got sick of me using the crisper in the big fridge for film storage, but I do use the tiny freezer in the bar-fridge to keep any instant film I have floating around as I've heard that freezing does help.

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