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coconono posted:Cataclysm: The Ultimates' Last Stand #1 (of 5) Also those are all being written by two writers. Bendis and Joshua Fialkov and they should make everything worthwhile.
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So besides Doom Trilogy, what is the best current jumping on point for Ultimates. I have heard good things in this thread about the current run, and bad things about older runs, so where do I hop on for good "Ultimates"? UC New Ultimates?
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ToastyPotato posted:So besides Doom Trilogy, what is the best current jumping on point for Ultimates. I have heard good things in this thread about the current run, and bad things about older runs, so where do I hop on for good "Ultimates"? UC New Ultimates? Ultimate 1,2 Ultimate Comics Ultimates if written by Hickman or Joshua Hale Fialkov
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Oct 4, 2013 18:01
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ToastyPotato posted:So besides Doom Trilogy, what is the best current jumping on point for Ultimates. I have heard good things in this thread about the current run, and bad things about older runs, so where do I hop on for good "Ultimates"? UC New Ultimates? Ultimates 1 Ultimates 2 Ultimate Avengers vs. New Ultimates Ultimates #1-30
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Oct 4, 2013 23:44
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I don't know if it was real or not, but at one of the Marvel panels today at NYCC, Mark Paniccia left the room to cry when being asked about Cataclysm and what it meant for the Ultimate universe. Like I said, I don't know if it was real or not, but considering the other panelists reactions it very well might have been.
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Oct 13, 2013 03:46
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It's comics. It wasn't real.
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Oct 13, 2013 10:49
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So the last issue of Hunger came it and it sure was a whole big pile of nothing and everything is basically back to where it was at the end of Age of Ultron/start of the series.
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Oct 16, 2013 20:57
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Rick Jones isn't in the Ultimate Universe anymore and sun eater Galactus is probably weakened to regular strength Galactus making the "Ultimate Line is ENDING!" doom saying even more likely to be wrong.
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Oct 16, 2013 21:02
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So Marvel could have gone directly from AoU #10 to Cataclysm #1 had the schedule allowed for it, and Hunger was just a pointless time-killing exercise? Did anyone not see this coming from the moment Cataclysm was announced?
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Oct 16, 2013 21:19
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That was kind of obvious once they announced that Bendis/Bagley was doing Cataclysm but I was at least hoping that Fialkov would get to do at least something interesting with the book. Even keeping Super Galactus would've been a fun addition.
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Oct 16, 2013 21:29
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Barry Convex posted:So Marvel could have gone directly from AoU #10 to Cataclysm #1 had the schedule allowed for it, and Hunger was just a pointless time-killing exercise? Did anyone not see this coming from the moment Cataclysm was announced? Hunger: -set up a new status quo for Rick Jones -addressed the of issue Ultimate Galactus -brought back Ultimate Silver Surfer
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Oct 16, 2013 21:43
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Jesus, who reading a comic anywhere ever gave a poo poo about Rick Jones?
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Oct 16, 2013 21:58
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thet0wer posted:Hunger: If any of that is actually a factor in Cataclysm proper, I'll be surprised.
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Oct 16, 2013 21:59
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I liked the art but yeah it was a pretty disappointing ending. Oh well, hopefully cataclysm picks up some of it.
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Oct 16, 2013 22:15
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I'm still a little confused, is that Galactus after Ultimate Earth or 616 Earth?
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Oct 17, 2013 00:38
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Mister Roboto posted:I'm still a little confused, is that Galactus after Ultimate Earth or 616 Earth? The former.
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Oct 17, 2013 00:54
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Waterhaul posted:That was kind of obvious once they announced that Bendis/Bagley was doing Cataclysm but I was at least hoping that Fialkov would get to do at least something interesting with the book. Even keeping Super Galactus would've been a fun addition. I've had a think about it and I believe the point of hunger was actually to nerf Galactus for the Ultimate Earth, which is down most of it's heavy hitters and wouldn't be able to convincingly give a non-wounded Galactus a fight.
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Oct 17, 2013 04:15
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Is Cataclysm going to follow the heroes on earth, Rick Jones handling whatever it is he's supposed to handle now, or both?
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Oct 17, 2013 04:41
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Argue posted:Is Cataclysm going to follow the heroes on earth, Rick Jones handling whatever it is he's supposed to handle now, or both? Well, most of the issues take place in Ultimates, Ultimate Spider-Man, and Ultimate X-Men, so it's probably going to be mostly about the heroes on earth.
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Oct 17, 2013 04:52
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Actually this recent development explains how all the tie-ins, like Ultimate Spiderman, already had Galactus appear on Earth.
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Barry Convex posted:So Marvel could have gone directly from AoU #10 to Cataclysm #1 had the schedule allowed for it, and Hunger was just a pointless time-killing exercise? Well it did provide for a couple rad as hell scenes with MegaGalactus just wrecking everything... but otherwise yes, pointless.
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Oct 17, 2013 09:47
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USM #28 had me grinning ear-to-ear the entire issue. I liked the brief bit of synergy between Miles and Jessica during the fight, but who cares because we got this page 
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Oct 24, 2013 06:33
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And in the next one it all goes to hell! Cataclysm better not gently caress this up. But a Young Ultimates would be loving awesome with the cast from today's comic. Throw Gwen in it too just because.
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Oct 24, 2013 06:45
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I really hope the Ultimate Universe stays around somehow because I couldn't stand seeing Miles and Jessica getting booted to 616 where they'll get killed in some Marvel event comic.
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Oct 24, 2013 07:37
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Honestly I don't really see what would be gained by booting them over to 616 and presumably getting rid of 99% of their own cast/foes in the process. 616 is crowded as it is with Spider-people and yeah, they'd be killed off within the decade.
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Oct 24, 2013 21:13
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Man, Miles is really growing in front of our eyes.
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Oct 24, 2013 21:30
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Sigma posted:Man, Miles is really growing in front of our eyes. Miles is the best  He is my favorite character in Marvel comics right now.
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I have to agree this USM issue was fantastic. I hope Bendis is setting up a new incarnation of the dynamic Peter had with Bobby and Johnny, I love a good supporting cast and I'm pretty tired of stakes being artificially raised by having the hero always going it alone.
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Maybe it's just me but Bendis got some weird pacing. Just got around to reading the issue and drat, that was some lazy exposition right there. "Let's just repeat this page 3 times and have our big bad splurge out all the backstory", followed by "and let's wrap this up". Considering how long Roxxon have been hovering in the background the take-down felt a wee bit on the easy side, you'd think they'd have better security than "Uh, call up the lab guys and hope they can arrive in 5 minutes". So no, not really feeling the issue. Should have more of a climax, what with being the end of the first chapter. Miles really got poo poo for villains too, considering it's been 28 issues.
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Pimpmust posted:Maybe it's just me but Bendis got some weird pacing. Just got around to reading the issue and drat, that was some lazy exposition right there. "Let's just repeat this page 3 times and have our big bad splurge out all the backstory", followed by "and let's wrap this up". Aw come on, that was hilarious. The Roxxon guy was just hanging there bitching and moaning, threatening, and predicting the future for three full pages and all he gets from Miles is "You're under arrest." That issue felt like a nice ending to the retirement storyline, and I love the supporting cast this book has. The little bit at the end hinting that we might see more of them working together in the future made me happy. quote:So no, not really feeling the issue. Should have more of a climax, what with being the end of the first chapter. Miles really got poo poo for villains too, considering it's been 28 issues. And yet the series has been really solid.
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Comic books need copy editors. http://imgur.com/ot4Koz2 onefish fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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Nov 7, 2013 03:33
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/carnal While it's true it means that, it can also just be sort of "basic instinct hunger." If Galactus is supposed to be some sort of embodiment of some sort of cosmic force, carnal sort of works.
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onefish posted:Comic books need copy editors. Please don't kinkshame Galactus.
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Mark Bagley's Miles and Ganke were really disconcerting and Cataclysm is not a good event so far.
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Genetic Toaster posted:Mark Bagley's Miles and Ganke were really disconcerting and Cataclysm is not a good event so far. I really wonder if it's trying hard to be a shittier event than Ultimatum.
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Genetic Toaster posted:Mark Bagley's Miles and Ganke were really disconcerting and Cataclysm is not a good event so far. Yeah the art was kinda poo poo and Galactus doing things isn't really interesting when he has no dialogue. At the very least him running into 3 of this universe's Fantastic Four should have brought a reaction. Any reaction. I'm not really sure where they're going with this. And that xenomorph cap freaked me the gently caress out.  The one thing I DID like is that it wasted no time getting into the story. My guess is that Galactus not being in 616 is a Very Bad Thing and he knows it so he's just trying to amass enough energy to rip his way back. Happy Noodle Boy fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Yeah the art was kinda poo poo and Galactus doing things isn't really interesting when he has no dialogue. At the very least him running into 3 of this universe's Fantastic Four should have brought a reaction. Any reaction. I'm not really sure where they're going with this. It wasted no time getting into the premise, but it sure wasted time getting into something resembling a loving story. Here is Cataclysm #1: "Galactus shows up and people freak out." That is LITERALLY IT. This is seriously the worst example of Bendis-event-first-issue-malaise I've seen in forever.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:The one thing I DID like is that it wasted no time getting into the story. That's because you're not taking Hunger into account, really this is the fifth issue in.
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Genetic Toaster posted:Mark Bagley's Miles and Ganke were really disconcerting and Cataclysm is not a good event so far. Did Ganke get thin all of a sudden and I missed it or what?
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Mister Chompers posted:That's because you're not taking Hunger into account, really this is the fifth issue in. Nah that's actually what I kind of meant with that. Hunger already laid the groundwork so I was pleasantly surprised that Cataclysm didn't bother recapping any of it it just rolled right along. d00gZ posted:It wasted no time getting into the premise, but it sure wasted time getting into something resembling a loving story. Yeah that was my main problem with it. Im giving the USM tie-in a shot and maybe the next one but I hope they start doing something with the story aside from the bare minimum. That said, the cover for the UXM tie-in is awesome  Happy Noodle Boy fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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