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greatn posted:Given Tarquin's penchant for the dramatic, do you think he would accept a one on one dual with Roy? An awesome duel with the random scrub holding his son back? Doubtful. I guess it depends on how impressed he was with Roy's performance back at the Arena
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Mystic Mongol posted:An awesome duel with the random scrub holding his son back? Doubtful. I guess it depends on how impressed he was with Roy's performance back at the Arena Tarquin did mention he was highly impressed with Roy at the arena and recognized that it was Roy that planned the ambush in the Pyramid.
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Oct 23, 2013 19:13
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One thing that bothered me about the arenas duel was Roy completely cheated. He got outside assistance and drank a healing potion. Just didn't seem very fair or heroic.
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Oct 23, 2013 19:18
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greatn posted:One thing that bothered me about the arenas duel was Roy completely cheated. He got outside assistance and drank a healing potion. Just didn't seem very fair or heroic. Since when has the order been concerned with fighting fair?
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Oct 23, 2013 19:25
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greatn posted:One thing that bothered me about the arenas duel was Roy completely cheated. He got outside assistance and drank a healing potion. Just didn't seem very fair or heroic. Hercules either got outside help or cheated at like half the Labors. Cheating is a classically heroic trait.
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Oct 23, 2013 19:27
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UberJew posted:Hercules either got outside help or cheated at like half the Labors. Cheating is a classically heroic trait. I think they only call it cheating if you're a bad guy. If you're a good guy it counts as "using all available resources."
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Oct 23, 2013 19:32
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UberJew posted:Hercules either got outside help or cheated at like half the Labors. Cheating is a classically heroic trait. To be fair, he got called out on it twice.
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Oct 23, 2013 19:37
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One thing worth pointing out is that Thog, as a B-list antagonist, most likely has NPC stats and NPC wealth-by-level. In a "fair fight" with gladiator armaments, Roy is still capable of wrestling down Thog while he's raging. If they both had their regular equipment, Roy would wipe the floor with Thog, hands down.
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Oct 23, 2013 20:03
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Mystic Mongol posted:An awesome duel with the random scrub holding his son back? Doubtful. I guess it depends on how impressed he was with Roy's performance back at the Arena Think of it more like Tarquin killing his son's mentor in the classic Darth Vader kills Obi-Wan way, which at this point is pretty unavoidable since if he plans on killing Roy and several other Order members he's going to need to do it himself.
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Oct 23, 2013 20:54
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Glory of Arioch posted:Getting dunked into an acid tank with an acid-breathing shark, a fall of several dozen feet, and a Ray of Frost got him pretty close. I still love the MitD's line in the first panel of the next strip. Oh Rich 
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greatn posted:One thing that bothered me about the arenas duel was Roy completely cheated. He got outside assistance and drank a healing potion. Just didn't seem very fair or heroic. Going down like a chump in the name of honour isn't very heroic either.
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Oct 23, 2013 22:52
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Glory of Arioch posted:Getting dunked into an acid tank with an acid-breathing shark, a fall of several dozen feet, and a Ray of Frost got him pretty close. I won't believe it's possible to kill Mr. Stiffly until it actually happens. And maybe not even then.  (Sure, he's a cool character and all, but it's the MITD's friendship with him that made me a huge fan. )VVVV I'm sure it's not an original opinion, but O-Chul is what paladins are supposed to be, and Miko was what paladins are generally played like. prefect fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Oct 23, 2013 |
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Oct 23, 2013 23:28
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Part of me can't help but wonder how much differently the whole Azure City arc might have turned out if O-Chul had been the one to head to the Northern Lands to retrieve the Order instead of Miko.
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prefect posted:VVVV I'm sure it's not an original opinion, but O-Chul is what paladins are supposed to be, and Miko was what paladins are generally played like.
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prefect posted:I won't believe it's possible to kill Mr. Stiffly until it actually happens. And maybe not even then. I'm quite worried that it might be O'Chul dying that ultimately forces MITD to flip sides. 
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Oct 24, 2013 00:24
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MikeJF posted:I'm quite worried that it might be O'Chul dying that ultimately forces MITD to flip sides. That would be the proudest day of O'Chul's existence.
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Oct 24, 2013 02:55
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Has there been any talk or plans involving an animated Order of the Stick? Because I can't imagine Belkar's lines in the last panel being said in anyone other than H. Jon Benjamin's voice. (Hell, you can just imagine Archer screaming "I AM A SEXY SHOELESS GOD OF WAR!!!")
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Oct 24, 2013 04:53
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I get the impression Burlew's considered it, but knows the spergiest parts of the fandom would flip its' poo poo at him over something in the video, no matter how big or small an "issue" it actually is.
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Oct 24, 2013 06:12
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Something like this maybe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA2mqPK16d4
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Poil posted:Something like this maybe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA2mqPK16d4 That's actually not bad.
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Poil posted:Something like this maybe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA2mqPK16d4 This is surprisingly good.
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Noah posted:Why would it be in any of his party's best interest to kill him? Up until now, Tarquin had/has a really good thing going. Sure they have to put up with his narrative nonsense, but its worked out pretty well for everyone villainous. Okay but Tarquin's narrative nonsense is exactly why it's a good idea to jump ship right around now. See, I used to read a comic that was almost as metahumor-y as OotS, and the bad guys based all their magic on a power called "Cynamatik" (I think you see where this is going, but I'll continue in case I'm wrong). As the name suggests, Cynamatik worked perfectly as long as it was narratively convenient and looked nice and flashy, but it would invariably turn on the user anytime it would make for a better story if they failed. The heroes had to work to keep it going that way but the downfall of the villains was ultimately that they were still trying to use Cynamatik in their climactic final confrontation. In OotS, you don't have an inscrutable magic force doing this unexpectedly. You have a cunning old man who's been actively planning his own downfall since he found out his wife was pregnant, and now he's gearing up to make it happen. This is without question the time to set up a favor and then make that favor the guarantee of a nice, quiet retirement. my dad posted:This is surprisingly good. I do not think I agree. Dr. Buttass fucked around with this message at 10:54 on Oct 24, 2013 |
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Oct 24, 2013 10:51
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Dr. Buttass posted:See, I used to read a comic that was almost as metahumor-y as OotS, and the bad guys based all their magic on a power called "Cynamatik" (I think you see where this is going, but I'll continue in case I'm wrong). As the name suggests, Cynamatik worked perfectly as long as it was narratively convenient and looked nice and flashy, but it would invariably turn on the user anytime it would make for a better story if they failed. The heroes had to work to keep it going that way but the downfall of the villains was ultimately that they were still trying to use Cynamatik in their climactic final confrontation. Reminds me of something. Was it that one?
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Regalingualius posted:I get the impression Burlew's considered it, but knows the spergiest parts of the fandom would flip its' poo poo at him over something in the video, no matter how big or small an "issue" it actually is. It's more likely he wants to finish the main strip before moving onto other projects since he knows quality and quantity will both suffer.
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Cat Mattress posted:Reminds me of something. Was it that one? That's the one. Nicely spotted.
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Simian_Prime posted:Has there been any talk or plans involving an animated Order of the Stick? H. Jon definitely has the sarcasm down, but his voice seems unaturally deep for Belkar. If it was me, I'd have him as Roy and use John DiMaggio as Belkar. And probably Billy West as Elan. Come to think of it, I could see Katy Seagal as Haley and yeah I guess it'd just end up being Futurama.
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See I'da pegged John DiMaggio for Roy maybe. I always pictured Belkar's voice as being kinda higher. Like Neil Patrick Harris maybe.
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Dr. Buttass posted:I always pictured Belkar's voice as being kinda higher. Like Neil Patrick Harris maybe. With his singing voice I think he'd make a great Elan, too. Edit: Gilbert Gottfried for Belkar. Think about it. Jimbone Tallshanks fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Oct 25, 2013 |
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:H. Jon definitely has the sarcasm down, but his voice seems unnaturally deep for Belkar. That's what I want. Part of Belkar's shtick is that he's pretty much the polar opposite of the jolly, good-hearted Tolkien hobbit. Having a deeper baritone instead of the high-pitched squeaky voice we normally associate with halflings would be a plus. Billy West was my first choice for Elan too. What can I say? - the guy's got a talent for playing affable idiots (Fry, Stimpy). For Roy I'd go Phil Lamarr. Imaging Samurai Jack, but with the level of dry sarcasm and frustration that only being the leader of the OotS can bring. And I'd get Dana Snyder (Master Shake) for Xykon. Hell, throw in Carey Means and Dave Willis for Redcloak and MitD... the dynamic between the three already has sort of an Aqua Teen Hunger Force vibe.
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I would definitely like to see an OOTS animated series, but does the strip have an insurmountable lead on any TV adaptation, or would it catch up and then.. uh.. what happens in Western productions when that happens? I only ever see this stuff in anime. Also I imagine making an adaptation of a webcomic that relies heavily on gags at the end of each strip and combining them seamlessly into a series of 24 minute episodes would test the sanity of most men. But nuts to them, their sacrifice serves the greater good, gimme *Edit* Simian_Prime posted:
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Zogundar posted:I would definitely like to see an OOTS animated series, but does the strip have an insurmountable lead on any TV adaptation, or would it catch up and then.. uh.. what happens in Western productions when that happens? I only ever see this stuff in anime. Rich, being Rich, would create all new content for the animation. Simian_Prime posted:And I'd get Dana Snyder (Master Shake) for Xykon. Hell, throw in Carey Means and Dave Willis for Redcloak and MitD... the dynamic between the three already has sort of an Aqua Teen Hunger Force vibe. Carey Means might work for Roy, too. But seeing that trio voiced by that trio would be great. Dana Snyder would work great on the quips, but not so much the "power is power" monologues and such.
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Zogundar posted:I imagined it, can never take Xykon half-way seriously again, the only way it could be worse is if you suggested MC Chris oh now I imagined that See, I sort of imagine Xykon, as written, to be somebody who would be a complete buffoon if he weren't so goddamn dangerous. He's an undead monster, and an Epic-level sorcerer... but he's also basically a petulant child willing to get strung along on a vague "Unleash the Snarl + ? = PROFIT!!!" scheme if it means he can have fun killing people and making zombies along the way. The kind of villain who bungles his villainous monologues because he can't even be bothered to remember the hero's name. That just shouts out as a darker version of Master Shake to me. But in the end, I think the biggest challenge an animated OotS might get pressure from producers into omitting a lot of the obvious D&D, particularly 3.5, references for fear of alienating a potential mainstream audience. Jokes about stuff like opportunity attacks or Vancian magic would probably go over the heads of the casual viewer.
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Carey Means might work for Roy, too. But seeing that trio voiced by that trio would be great. Dana Snyder would work great on the quips, but not so much the "power is power" monologues and such. Yeah, his is not a voice intended for focused megalomania. Maybe Ron Perlman. He's been known to say some pretty silly poo poo in his day and no one doubts HIS capacity for a villainous monologue. Zogundar posted:I would definitely like to see an OOTS animated series, but does the strip have an insurmountable lead on any TV adaptation, or would it catch up and then.. uh.. what happens in Western productions when that happens? I only ever see this stuff in anime. I would imagine, if they were going for full blown TV series type of thing, they would probably have to take the basic plot and character development outline and rewrite the whole thing from the ground up. If they wanted to stay truer to the source material I could see doing a web series with shorter episodes to better work with the whole "end on a gag" thing. As for catching up, I can see two solutions: Either A) do what anime does and go "gently caress it" and just soldier on ahead, probably diverging wildly from the source material, or B) devote the animated series to side stories. Or C) do the Excel Saga thing and make something up out of whole cloth, with an "Approved By Rich" gag for each specific deviation.
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Dr. Buttass posted:Maybe Ron Perlman. He's been known to say some pretty silly poo poo in his day and no one doubts HIS capacity for a villainous monologue. I think there can only be one voice for Xykon when it comes to villainous monologuing, Tony Jay. Megabyte, Count Frollo, Pontius Pilot...
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:I think there can only be one voice for Xykon when it comes to villainous monologuing, Tony Jay. Megabyte, Count Frollo, Pontius Pilot... While he would have been perfect, I have some bad news for you... (Seriously, I was cracking up over the idea of MC Chris for Xykon, but Tony Jay totally redeems him.)
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:I think there can only be one voice for Xykon when it comes to villainous monologuing, Tony Jay. Megabyte, Count Frollo, Pontius Pilot... I always read Xykon in Denis Leary's voice. It just seems to fit. He always struck me as a supreme sarcastic rear end in a top hat, not a deep voiced villain that fits Tony Jay's voice.
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Everyone is voiced by Gary Busey.
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Redcloak voiced by Alan Rickman and Xykon voiced by Will Ferrell. And they have to record all their lines in one sitting, in the same room together, so we can really get that exasperated feeling from Redcloak as the series goes on.
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DoctorTristan posted:I always hear Xykon as the Robot Devil myself. Oh my. This is perfect. I will too from now on.
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