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The cross-examination themes are just the best ever  . The music really shines with headphones!
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Iceclaw posted:Yeah upon playing until the end of day 2, I really didn't. It looks like they picked the very worst parts of the serie, between obnoxious characters, previsible plot twists and baffling stupidity from the main character. I do hope it gets better, because so far, with the exception of Fulbright and Blackquill, it's probably as bad as 4-3 was.  Edit: I will say that the third case is probably the worst case I've played so far, but even that case has quite a few good moments. The fourth case has been pretty drat good as of the "day 1" investigation and they introduced a character who seems to be literally Yuri Gagarin. 
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Oct 25, 2013 17:59
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The music is so great! All the courtroom stuff is wonderful and (early case 3) Apollo's theme, the piano version of his objection theme is amazing. Who composed, Iwadare again?
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Oct 25, 2013 18:03
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Pastrami posted:Did anyone else feel like in case 1 of Dual Destinies that turning WOODS into the serial number was insanely obtuse? If you erase the entire curve on the D and part of the W then it becomes the serial number on the case! I goofed that up at first (I figured out the "D" part but thought erasing the little bit on the "W" didn't count), but it made sense to me, more or less. Anyways, it's great to get back into the series again. I've only finished Case 1 so far, but it was fun. I'm liking the characters so far, and the writing hasn't lost a step. I also liked how the ending of the case was somewhat unique with Ted threatening to blow up the courtroom. Don't think I remember anything like that before. I'm not sure yet about Athena's powers. It seems like it'd be a little easy to use, but then I bet I'll run into a bit where all four emotions are flashing and I'll wish I kept my big mouth shut.
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Oct 25, 2013 18:06
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Nick Biped posted:I'm not sure yet about Athena's powers. It seems like it'd be a little easy to use, but then I bet I'll run into a bit where all four emotions are flashing and I'll wish I kept my big mouth shut. I got super annoyed with it in case 2 (I'm not any further) because the game flashes two emotions and wants you to track their intensity through a scene but they both go up and down it what felt like a sensible enough patter. I felt like I just didn't get what they were going for and ended up brute forcing that puzzle.
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Oct 25, 2013 18:08
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Barudak posted:I got super annoyed with it in case 2 (I'm not any further) because the game flashes two emotions and wants you to track their intensity through a scene but they both go up and down it what felt like a sensible enough patter. I felt like I just didn't get what they were going for and ended up brute forcing that puzzle. I got it on my first try, so you probably just suck at animelytical psychology.
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Oct 25, 2013 18:13
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I dunno (case 2)getting happier (or, as the game puts it, less sad) upon entering room with a dead alderman and your own father unconscious and bleeding after being beaned with a statue is KINDA weird. If "basic human emotions" are suddenly anime, then that explains why Athena's superpower of empathy is, well, a superpower.
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Oct 25, 2013 18:16
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Terper posted:I got it on my first try, so you probably just suck at animelytical psychology. Its true, I only have a degree comiclytical psychology. I knew I should have double mastered.
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Oct 25, 2013 18:17
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Basically, the thing is that whilst the tutorial bit claims its about 'unexpected emotions', what it really means is that, do the emotions make sense relative to the scene in question. So not only are the right emotions there, but are they at the right level you'd expect?
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Oct 25, 2013 18:19
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So whatever happened with the (case 1 end spoilers) remote detonator? Was it a total red herring?
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Oct 25, 2013 18:20
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Knowing series precedent, it'll likely turn out really important later. Remember Kristoph Gavin's apparent lack of motive back in Apollo Justice? That escalated oh so much by the last case.
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Oct 25, 2013 18:25
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canoshiz posted:So whatever happened with the (case 1 end spoilers) remote detonator? Was it a total red herring? Yeah if this doesn't become super critical later I'll be darn surprised.
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Oct 25, 2013 18:46
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Am I the only one being driven insane by (early case 3) the noise Robin makes all the time? I dunno what it's even meant to be, is it his breathing? It's like nails on a chalkboard. If I have to interact with him much more I'm gonna have to turn the sound off. 
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Oct 25, 2013 18:51
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eating only apples posted:Am I the only one being driven insane by (early case 3) the noise Robin makes all the time? I dunno what it's even meant to be, is it his breathing? It's like nails on a chalkboard. If I have to interact with him much more I'm gonna have to turn the sound off. It's his brace, haha.
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Oct 25, 2013 18:52
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Jesus does non bombed Apollo look lame as gently caress.
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Oct 25, 2013 18:57
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Early case 4 spoilers: Man Solomon Starbuck looks a lot like Larry Butz. So of course he's the defendant.
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Oct 25, 2013 19:40
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Mein gott... I haven't even gotten to the trial in Case 2 yet and already it's glorious.
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Oct 25, 2013 19:58
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Does anyone else feel like Athena is bordering the line of "Mary-Sue?" I'm not saying she isn't an enjoyable character, but she's an 18-year-old lawyer genius who is also a tough girl! She's also super clumsy, and has a cute, robotic friend who sometimes blurts her true feelings But uh-oh, she isn't all smiles because of her dark, brooding past!
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Oct 25, 2013 20:03
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Snix posted:Does anyone else feel like Athena is bordering the line of "Mary-Sue?" I'm not saying she isn't an enjoyable character, but she's a tough girl who's also super clumsy, and has a cute, robotic friend who sometimes blurts her true feelings But uh-oh, she isn't all smiles because of her dark, brooding past! That's not really a Mary Sue, though. A Mary Sue is a character who is basically super competent to the point of embarrassing major characters. There's a bit of it there, but it's more a case of "We've already got two pretty competent lawyers here, we need a new character who's not completely incompetent but yet still needs things explained so we can justify a tutorial." Mary Sues are basically perfect to the point where Being Good At Things is their only character trait. So, basically Edgeworth if he never lightened up.
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Oct 25, 2013 20:08
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When Blackquill slams the desk, Taka looks startled for a second  It's the little things.
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Oct 25, 2013 20:23
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Crappy Jack posted:That's not really a Mary Sue, though. A Mary Sue is a character who is basically super competent to the point of embarrassing major characters. There's a bit of it there, but it's more a case of "We've already got two pretty competent lawyers here, we need a new character who's not completely incompetent but yet still needs things explained so we can justify a tutorial." Mary Sues are basically perfect to the point where Being Good At Things is their only character trait. While I see where you're coming from with Edgeworth, I wouldn't quite put him as far up as Mary Sue, since his status was meant to make him an intimidating antagonist, and in the end, Phoenix could always outsmart him. Edit: Now that I think about it, yeah, Edgeworth might have been the only competent character in the AAI. I love Gumshoe to death, but it'd help if his intelligence didn't go down with each new release. I mean, he can be badass when he wants to be. Remember in case 1-3 where he stormed in and prevented Phoenix and Maya from being silenced? Snix fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Oct 25, 2013 |
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Oct 25, 2013 20:28
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Snix posted:Does anyone else feel like Athena is bordering the line of "Mary-Sue?" I'm not saying she isn't an enjoyable character, but she's an 18-year-old lawyer genius who is also a tough girl! She's also super clumsy, and has a cute, robotic friend who sometimes blurts her true feelings But uh-oh, she isn't all smiles because of her dark, brooding past! She's not better than the rest of the cast though, so she's not a Mary Sue. Like she in the first two cases is explicitly shown to have a lot of nervous jitters, not be completely confident, and need training on finer points of the insane legal universe that AA inhabits. eating only apples posted:When Blackquill slams the desk, Taka looks startled for a second I love it and laugh each and every single time.
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 -The thing I love best about bombs is how they destroy without discriminationThat's still the funniest drat line for me, it's just so awkward.
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Oct 25, 2013 20:29
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I just heard the remix of Apollo's objection and oh my god it sounds absolutely fantastic. 
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Oct 25, 2013 20:45
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Out of curiosity, what was Taka called in Japanese? "Hawk" in English or was it always Taka?
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Oct 25, 2013 20:48
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Sherringford posted:Out of curiosity, what was Taka called in Japanese? "Hawk" in English or was it always Taka? Gin, which apparently means Silver.
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Sherringford posted:Out of curiosity, what was Taka called in Japanese? Gin. I think Taka was a pretty good choice for the translation, really.
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Oct 25, 2013 20:52
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Case 3 ending spoilers here:It as a good case and a great mystery! Until the ending ruined the whole buildup with "Haha, look at these lawyer hijinks happening here. Isn't it goofy? Oh, wasn't there a murderer here? Whatever, guess he's laughed out of the court, too. Hahaha!" I know it wasn't exactly the end of the world happening but man, show the tension some respect, writers!
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Oct 25, 2013 21:00
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You know, the stepladder jokes are what stands out in everybody's minds but I think presenting the attorney's badge is my favorite running gag. e: And I like how Apollo calls you out for senselessly presenting every single piece of evidence to every single NPC no matter how irrelevant because video games. Opposing Farce fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Oct 25, 2013 |
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Oct 25, 2013 21:05
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HelloWinter posted:It's his brace, haha. Well that problem got solved quicker than I'd anticipated. Case 3 is anime as gently caress. I liked her better when she was yelling all the time.
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Oct 25, 2013 21:09
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eating only apples posted:Case 3 is anime as gently caress. I liked her better when she was yelling all the time. Heartily agreed. In fact, Gigi put my thoughts of it on paper pretty well here (again, case 3 day 1 spoilers, do not read): http://allmarios.tumblr.com/post/65068279108/ace-attorney-5-spoilers-i-got-mad-on-twitter-and I think the point is supposed to be that she's SUPER MASCULINE and then afterwards ~extremely feminine~ and it's funny because genders, haha. But it was reeeeaallly clumsily executed. She in fact becomes a lot more tolerable, and sometimes funny, once the writers (and hopefully, you) forget the whole thing about gender confusion the next day.
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Oct 25, 2013 21:17
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STILL CASE 3 WHOA Robin's still the most likeable character in this case so far. All the others are just hateful. And honestly I'm relieved that she was just crossdressing because of parental pressure or whatever, she didn't really want to be doing it - for a minute I thought I was going to be outing a trans person or revealing that some poor boy secretly liked crossdressing or something meanspirited like that. I mean, I don't feel quite so mad about it as Gigi. After a bit I quite enjoyed Robin's flip-flopping between hyper-feminine and bellowing across the courtroom.
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CONTINUING ON CASE 3 It's definitely an odd case. I liked it more than I liked case 2, which is basically a first for the series, but oh boooyyy does it have some really awkward/dumb parts. Certainly didn't help with all the FRIENDSHIP  though I did really like Robin. Hugh can go die in a fire though oh my god I do not care about you at all. It's definitely not as bad as 4-3 or 2-3, but also not as good as 1-3 or 3-3, if I had to rate it.
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Oct 25, 2013 21:55
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Man, I'm pretty sure I'm right near the end of case 2 and L'Belle has loving balls to actively blackmail Daimon into silence in the middle of the trial. e; Ahaha "Yeesh, Rube Goldberg machines have less elaborate setups than L'Belle's scheme..."
Lotus Aura fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Oct 25, 2013 |
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Oct 25, 2013 21:58
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Can't stop playing, this entire game is magical. It's like all the charm that AA4 sucked out has miraculously reappeared. I'm pretty sure I had things to do today other than destroying my eyes, but who cares. Yinlock fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Oct 25, 2013 |
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Oct 25, 2013 22:18
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I just noticed that during Blackquill's "pound the desk and laugh" animation, Taka seems to be snickering along. I love this bird
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Oct 25, 2013 22:23
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Case 2 full case spoiler: Yyyup.
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Oct 25, 2013 23:18
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My favorite audience member is the guy with the grey beard and mustache over Athena's shoulder. He disapproves so strongly of that flag in front of him.
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My only problem with the portrayal of Athena is the implication that the ability to identify someone's emotions by the sound of their voice is some kind of superpower, which isn't really a problem with her per se. Obviously it's just a way to mechanically interact with witnesses' emotions, like the crime scene reconstruction gadget in AAI, but characterizing it in that way is... problematic?
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I don't really get the Mary Sue accusations toward Athena, because it's rather solidly established she's not that good as a lawyer, rather jittery, and prone to outbursts that win you no favors with the Judge. I mean yeah, she's 18, and I hope there is a better explanation for her age than I studied in Europe and somehow skipped grades like mad here, lol the japaneses know nothing about other educative systems, but still she's pretty good as a newbie character so far.
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