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KilGrey posted:That's. It what that term means. It's more difficult to maneuver dead bodies around than live ones because it's essentially a big, heavy meat sack that doesn't help you like a live body would. In the context of this particular situation, this makes no sense. "Oh hey I'm going to drag you out here and light you on fire now. Help me out!"
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Redundant posted:It may just be me but with Herschel giving big speeches about how he wants to choose to risk his life, Carol being this stone cold badass (even in comparison to a seemingly legit Army Medic) etc it seems like the fan service is spreading. I can't quite put my finger on what it is that made me notice it this week and not others though, especially since I think this season is basically as strong as the show has ever been. Probably has something to do with the virus spreading in the prison yet no main characters contract it (except Glenn, and you know he will get the cure even if he's the only one).
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Oct 29, 2013 17:36
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No More Heroes posted:when she couldnt even off her own Dad who was about to turn. You imagine killing one's father would be easier than 2 strangers? Her father was bitten by walkers created via the sickness and subsequently killed. Sounds like some decent motivation to kill sick people. Carol would know that outright killing two people who haven't turned would have some serious repercussions. The little girl, not so much. Note that she is now in the ward with the rest of the sick people after feigning a slight cough... without Carol to cover for her. Also Carol was pretty hesitant to enter the ward to "tuck her in". I predict a few sick people are about to be shivved next episode, and the girl stopped/killed by either Glenn, Maggie or Herschel. Carol admitted to "killing them" as she all but did it herself by training the little girl to do it. Yeah, there's my prediction for this week. Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Oct 29, 2013 |
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Oct 29, 2013 17:43
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Bigass Moth posted:Probably has something to do with the virus spreading in the prison yet no main characters contract it (except Glenn, and you know he will get the cure even if he's the only one). Fog Tripper posted:Also Carol was pretty hesitant to enter the ward to "tuck her in". I predict a few sick people are about to be shivved next episode, and the girl stopped/killed by either Glenn, Maggie or Herschel. I'd argue more against it being the little girl since there is basically no evidence for it, but there was an equal lack of evidence about it being D'Angelo and I accused him nice and early so I guess people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I hope it was Carol though, it would make for a far more interesting story and might actually shake the group up a bit.
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Oct 29, 2013 17:58
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Yet she the very day and night before was in close proximity to D block, the girls father and the two she allegedly killed and then burned? If she was going to get it I'd expect her to already be showing symptoms. Who was it Carol told her was a good person to go to for a good tucking in?
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Oct 29, 2013 18:00
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So she was close to things before she knew there was danger and she brain stabbed a guy who had been bitten, I still don't see how this proves she isn't simply being cautious now they know what's going on. Note that she keeps her nose and mouth covered whilst she's doing her herding duty, including whilst she talks to the little girl (I think).
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Oct 29, 2013 18:04
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Redundant posted:So she was close to things before she knew there was danger and she brain stabbed a guy who had been bitten, I still don't see how this proves she isn't simply being cautious now they know what's going on. Note that she keeps her nose and mouth covered whilst she's doing her herding duty, including whilst she talks to the little girl (I think). Not proof, but rather prediction.
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Oct 29, 2013 18:07
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beetlo posted:In the context of this particular situation, this makes no sense. "Oh hey I'm going to drag you out here and light you on fire now. Help me out!" What's with people being deliberately obtuse? It's what the phrase means, current situation notwithstanding. It's not that the body literally weighs more, it's that it's a heavy, motionless mass. It's an idiom. I don't think Carol is covering for anyone, I think she honestly believed by eliminating the disease vector she'd be able to save the camp. I don't know why she dragged them way out in the open to stage the BBQ however.
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Oct 29, 2013 18:11
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steinrokkan posted:That's if you carry an unconscious body and have to keep it in a safe position, not if you drag it across the floor. Fog Tripper posted:No different from an unconscious person. It's still referred to as "dead weight". You are taking the term too literally. Fog Tripper posted:I need to stop thinking about it, as I am now wondering why they'd bother to drag them outside and burn them. In hindsight what was the point? Because they were sick and infected. That's what they did with plague victims before modern disposal methods. Even though they are dead the body is still diseased so you burn it.
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Verdugo posted:I don't think Carol is covering for anyone, I think she honestly believed by eliminating the disease vector she'd be able to save the camp. I don't know why she dragged them way out in the open to stage the BBQ however. 
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Deadpool posted:You don't need to spoil this. But I have a hard time believing that a child dragged dead bodies that far. BIG HEADLINE posted:Same here. There's a reason the expression is called "dead weight." Read these two back to back and it seems like what is being said is that somehow the people being dead is what is making this hard(er) for the child. It's nit-picking for sure, but them being dead has nothing to do with it. A child would have a hard time dealing with the weight of an adult body. Period. In this particular case, them being alive would actually make it MORE difficult. They aren't going to cooperate with someone trying to douse them with gasoline and light them on fire. So, in this particular scenario we are talking about, the "dead weight" (which usually means any type of uncooperative weight) would actually be easier. That's all I was trying to say.
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KilGrey posted:It's still referred to as "dead weight". You are taking the term too literally. Not taking the term too literally, just responding to the original post of: BIG HEADLINE posted:Same here. There's a reason the expression is called "dead weight." The only person I suspect doesn't understand what the term means is the guy who I quoted. Well, and the friend of mine that a long time ago actually thought dead people weighed more. KilGrey posted:
Did they burn Milhouse? (It's also what you do to destroy evidence) Sheesh, let's just drop it. VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Oct 29, 2013 |
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Oct 29, 2013 18:32
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beetlo posted:Read these two back to back and it seems like what is being said is that somehow the people being dead is what is making this hard(er) for the child. No, the expression was used to remind people that most of us have a poor understanding of how hard it is to carry an unconscious/dead person because most of our experiences with carrying another person involve them helping us out. No one is suggesting that it would have been easier to drag a live, struggling person or that a dead person actually weighs more. The use of the expression was fine.
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Fog Tripper posted:Not taking the term too literally, just responding to the original post of: We're thinking along the same lines I suspect. I'm sure BIG HEADLINE knows what the expression means. The usage of it here is just a little awkward. So yes... Time to let it drop. It's a major derail. :\
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Oct 29, 2013 18:46
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I wonder why instead of burning ALL of their dead they have been digging graves on land that would be better suited for farming.
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Bigass Moth posted:I wonder why instead of burning ALL of their dead they have been digging graves on land that would be better suited for farming. Because Glenn flipped out about it in S1
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Oct 29, 2013 18:59
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Fog Tripper posted:Did they burn Milhouse? (It's also what you do to destroy evidence) I believe they buried him. But that was a council choice, not a "do what you gotta do" Carol choice. Also, you can't inconspicuously bury two bodies you just murdered. I don't think burning them would get rid of knife wound evidence to the skull though.
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Oct 29, 2013 19:01
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beetlo posted:We're thinking along the same lines I suspect. I'm sure BIG HEADLINE knows what the expression means. The usage of it here is just a little awkward. So yes... Time to let it drop. It's a major derail. :\ Yeah, I mean this is The Walking Dead. Andrea couldn't pick up a pair of pliers right at her feet to escape the confines of a chair and instead spent the majority of her time staring at a slowly dying soon-to-be-zombie Milton instead of trying to get away as fast as possible. The semantics don't really matter in the end.
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No big surprise, renewed for another season: http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/10/29/the-walking-dead-renewed-5th-season/ Gimple will continue as showrunner.
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Bigass Moth posted:I wonder why instead of burning ALL of their dead they have been digging graves on land that would be better suited for farming. Did you hear how many rocks those shovels were hitting? Not all that great for farming (or gravedigging for that matter)
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Teek posted:No big surprise, renewed for another season: In fairness, The Following was renewed, as was UTD.
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Teek posted:No big surprise, renewed for another season:
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It's pretty much guaranteed to be renewed for the next 5 years, but it's still nice that it'll be the same showrunner. This show could really us that kind of stability, and hopefully it'll let them keep up the quality they've established so far this season.
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VDay posted:It's pretty much guaranteed to be renewed for the next 5 years, but it's still nice that it'll be the same showrunner. This show could really us that kind of stability, and hopefully it'll let them keep up the quality they've established so far this season. As long as they cut it before it pulls a Dexter.
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I'm reading so many great theories about what actually happened to the people Carol supposedly killed. Do you think we could get a zombie Robert Stackhouse to do a creepy narration and segment on "who really killed the survivors" with some theme music you should never listen to in the dark? I hope we get some more clarity in the next episodes even though we have a reasonable answer the whole thing just feels unsolved.
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Carol purposely undercooked the sick pig meat in episode one because everyone was sleeping with their doors open. Having caused the flu outbreak, she might as well have killed Cutty's girlfriend and some guy, thus the confession. Unfortunately, if the show hasn't explicitly stated who actually murdered and burned them by now I'm assuming it never will. With that said why is everyone assuming it was a single person? It's much more likely the Governor, who was hiding in the prison the entire time, doused the two with gasoline and was ready to light them on fire when he heard a noise and scuttled off. It was the little girl who was sick, coming for vengeance for getting her sick. Her nose was stuffed so she couldn't smell the gas and tried murdering them both by stabbing. She failed and ran away. At this point both victims dragged themselves out to the courtyard for fresh air since they were still covered in gasoline. The combat medic, intuiting the little girl was going to try and kill them, went and finished the job by lighting them on fire. He hoped the cover up would win points with the group but when he realized it wouldn't he helped Cutty dig their graves.
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PaganGoatPants posted:As long as they cut it before it pulls a Dexter. Well there's a spinoff in the works so this show could be going on for a decade or more.
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Mu Zeta posted:Well there's a spinoff in the works so this show could be going on for a decade or more. Like "Real Housewives of XYZ?"
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PaganGoatPants posted:Like "Real Housewives of XYZ?" Heh. I'm looking forward to the spinoff. They've said it will have no comic book storylines at all and a new group of survivors in a whole different region.
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Set it in Australia where there are no guns. They can call them "cobbers" or "boofheads" instead of Walkers. "The bloody Boofheads are building up along the fence again!" "Well, gently caress ay?" Perfect. Schneider Inside Her fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Oct 30, 2013 |
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Oct 30, 2013 05:34
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redweird posted:Set it in Australia where there are no guns. They can call them "cobbers" or "boofheads" instead of Walkers. and We have guns here...  I'm getting a Marlin 336 Lever action in a few months.
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I always thought it was a little dumb they decided to make it so the TV show universe was wholly unfamiliar with the concept of zombies. It seems like such a natural thing to tell a story about that they'd have more than an impromptu name for it when it really happened.
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Maybe they're just called "Walkers" in their version of the zombie fiction. poo poo, Zombie didn't even mean "Dead Dude Walkin' Around" originally, it could have branched into anything.
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Fog Tripper posted:Are you the second person I know of that believes dead people actually weigh more than the living? I don't believe dead people weigh more (if anything a fully exsanguinated body would weigh ~9-10lbs less), I'm simply saying that when a body is lifeless, it's obviously not doing anything to help you carry or drag it, to say nothing of the fun of rigor mortis (which I know doesn't set in immediately, before some  person decides to start linking to Wikipedia).
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Oct 30, 2013 06:40
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I always thought that in TWD universe zombies didn't exist in popular culture, which is a reason why the outbreak was so devastating.
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TOOT BOOT posted:I always thought it was a little dumb they decided to make it so the TV show universe was wholly unfamiliar with the concept of zombies. It seems like such a natural thing to tell a story about that they'd have more than an impromptu name for it when it really happened. Glenn and T Dogg started off calling them "Geeks" in ep1. Presumably from "geeking" or "tweaking." I cant remember how they arrived at "Walkers" for the final label.
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redweird posted:Set it in Australia where there are no guns. They can call them "cobbers" or "boofheads" instead of Walkers. Would watch the hell out of that. I hope the spinoff is entirely different. Like maybe give us a bit of society that survived the initial outbreak and how they deal with walkers. There must still be aircraft carriers and the like out there that were isolated enough that they didn't get overrun and got the memo on how to deal with walkers. Total comedy option is a Love Boat remake.
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That's straying into copyright infringement, There is a well known Zombie book that features an Aircraft Carrier as the new center for the humans
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This remains the best idea I've seen: ...aircraft carriers are out because of complexity. It doesn't matter if you find a guy who can run the reactor, and have him teach the next generation, the power plant will eventually need refueling. The better idea would be to get to where one of the Iowas are moored as museum ships if you wanted to go over the top. They might be giant diesels, but most of them are still seaworthy thanks to a lapsed Congressional edict, and I'd assume most of them are still mostly analog in regards to control. Easier to find a guy who knows diesel engines, even if he'd have never worked on something as huge, the principles are the same. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 09:31 on Oct 30, 2013 |
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No More Heroes posted:Glenn and T Dogg started off calling them "Geeks" in ep1. Presumably from "geeking" or "tweaking." I cant remember how they arrived at "Walkers" for the final label. Another character calls them Geeks from the Telltale game, giving the reason like "Carnival geeks they will eat anything." I don't know if that's the same reason Glenn does. Speaking of which, Season 2 of that is "Coming soon" and if anyone missed Season 1, go buy it for $6 on the Steam Sale and binge through it. I enjoy the show, but that series is the best thing in the franchise. You will more than get your six bucks worth.* * Do NOT accidentally buy the Activision game. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Oct 30, 2013 |
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