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Fintilgin posted:New Sons of Abraham diary. Hey an Orthodox holy order, cool!
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So the Cathars can have female bishops, and heresies can supplant their parent religion, could this mean we might possibly get She-popes? Also, I love the reworking of the holy orders, particularly one delicious potential gently caress You to the player. "Hey, buddy! You like God, right? How about doing us a solid and letting your son join us in the good fight? No, not the drunkard, the other one, y'know, the genius Grey Eminence you've been grooming as your heir for the last two decades."
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Oct 29, 2013 16:05
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This could maybe be a big change as well:quote:Last week I told you about the College of Cardinals and the new papal powers (though I believe I forgot to mention that the Pope can also grant you claims on counties and duchies!)
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Oct 29, 2013 16:09
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Fintilgin posted:New Sons of Abraham diary. Huh, monks and nuns! Finally, you can follow through on your threat to send someone off to take the vows. It might be kind of neat if sending someone off to become a monk/nun was weaker (downgrades claim strength one level?) or more temporary (lasts 10 years, or life of current ruler?) for orthodox rulers. From my memory of Byzantine history (and old Harry Turtledove novels), people 'gotten rid of' by sending them to a monastery had a nasty tendency to pop back up again... that's not critical, though.
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Oct 29, 2013 16:23
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Zoinker posted:So the Cathars can have female bishops, and heresies can supplant their parent religion, could this mean we might possibly get She-popes? Eh the Cathars weren't really into the whole centralised church authority thing, if I remember right they didn't have any perfecti more senior than bishops. So a Cathar pope doesnt make much sense.
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Oct 29, 2013 17:04
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Goddamn, this is going to be a good expansion. Everything announced about it so far sounds really exciting. The fact that Holy Orders are now more than just fancy mercs is probably my favorite so far, making them a faction in their own right will go a long way towards making Crusades a lot cooler and more dynamic.
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Oct 29, 2013 17:58
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Just please remove the hardcoding on interfaith marriages so we can mod it. That's all I want to read about from the upcoming DLC/patch.
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Oct 29, 2013 18:01
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I still wish decadence would be changed somewhat, as it is it's way too apocalyptic to the players/pointless to the AI.
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Oct 29, 2013 18:10
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I hope they do something to restrict one person hiring multiple holy orders. Along with decadence making it hard to play a Muslim, I find it impossible to deal with any christian hiring all three orders any time I declare war on them.
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Oct 29, 2013 18:52
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Gorelab posted:I still wish decadence would be changed somewhat, as it is it's way too apocalyptic to the players/pointless to the AI. Idea for reworked decadence: what if high decadence caused a prestige reduction on all vassals, and family vassals had the ability to start a "reduce decadence" faction. A "reduce decadence" civil war would result in the faction leader becoming the new liege, and he would found a new royal house, which all the faction members would switch to (assuming they were of the old ruling dynasty).
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Oct 29, 2013 18:54
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Rumda posted:You know I may have to get some people together and redo the Cathar France game again come SoA Catharia will rise again!
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Oct 29, 2013 19:21
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Since the modder threw a hissy fit and took down his download links, could anyone please upload the latest version of NBRT+ (the pretty border graphics mod)? I have the 0.7 version, but I'm pretty sure it's not the latest one (my CK2 is frozen to 1.103 until I finish the current game, after which I will want to update though). The files in it are from the end of June.
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Oct 29, 2013 19:35
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marktheando posted:Eh the Cathars weren't really into the whole centralised church authority thing, if I remember right they didn't have any perfecti more senior than bishops. So a Cathar pope doesnt make much sense. In game mechanics it should work though. Heresies can supplant the "vanilla" version of the religion.
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Oct 29, 2013 19:46
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Rumda posted:You know I may have to get some people together and redo the Cathar France game again come SoA NihilCredo posted:Since the modder threw a hissy fit and took down his download links, could anyone please upload the latest version of NBRT+ (the pretty border graphics mod)?
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Oct 29, 2013 20:07
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RagnarokAngel posted:In game mechanics it should work though. Heresies can supplant the "vanilla" version of the religion. From the sound of it, it's not that Cathar would somehow become the true Catholic church, but some kind of tag switching would occur where Cathar becomes tagged as "true faith" and Catholicism becomes tagged as "heresy". So if the Cathar heresy has no religious head, then the Cathar true faith shouldn't either.
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Oct 29, 2013 20:08
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Ah right good point. That's why you have to stamp it out 
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PleasingFungus posted:Huh, monks and nuns! Finally, you can follow through on your threat to send someone off to take the vows. It'd also be cool if your family decided to join a monastery/convent on their own, a la Thomas Aquinas, and you'd have to decide whether to let them go or force them to stay.
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Oct 29, 2013 21:44
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Mickey McKey posted:I hope they do something to restrict one person hiring multiple holy orders. Along with decadence making it hard to play a Muslim, I find it impossible to deal with any christian hiring all three orders any time I declare war on them. Mercenaries are restricted based on your capital's location, while holy orders currently are not. I would imagine that, with the emphasis on holy orders being localized, that they will also get mercenary-style limitations on hiring.
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Oct 30, 2013 00:09
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Being able to hire them if they're nearby might be a good reason to give them a castle on your lands.
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Oct 30, 2013 02:25
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Is there any way to change the county capital?
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Oct 30, 2013 02:57
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You can change the capital from one type to another, like Castle to City. Can't swap same type, though.
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Oct 30, 2013 02:58
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Is there any way to change the county capital? If you hold the county capital, I think giving it to any of the other barons in the county makes their holding the new capital. This is how you get Grand Cities and Bishoprics.
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Oct 30, 2013 02:58
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Is there any way to change the county capital? Grant the county level title to the owner of the barony, bishopric or town you want to be the new capital.
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Oct 30, 2013 03:00
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NihilCredo posted:Since the modder threw a hissy fit and took down his download links, could anyone please upload the latest version of NBRT+ (the pretty border graphics mod)? The latest version was 0.7 and it changed the checksum (no idea why). Here is a link to the last version that works fine and does not alter the checksum, 0.6 Beta: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bzju1DpQRq04bU1vdERHZFc1bms/edit?usp=sharing Omar_Comin fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Oct 30, 2013 |
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Oct 30, 2013 05:33
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Omar_Comin posted:The latest version was 0.7 and it changed the checksum (no idea why). Here is a link to the last version that works fine and does not alter the checksum, 0.6 Beta: http://www.sendspace.com/file/despan
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Oct 30, 2013 05:49
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Is there any way to change the county capital? If the problem is that it's your county and the capital is the wrong holding type, revoke a barony (castle), which should automatically become the new capital once you hold it personally.
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Oct 30, 2013 06:28
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NihilCredo posted:Changing the checksum isn't a problem for me in CK2 since there's no ironman/achievements yet.
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Oct 30, 2013 07:09
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Dickensian Aspect posted:If the problem is that it's your county and the capital is the wrong holding type, revoke a barony (castle), which should automatically become the new capital once you hold it personally. Alternately, if you hold the county title, grant it to a baron in that county. He will designate his castle as the new capital for you.
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Oct 30, 2013 08:09
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I wonder if there are any mods for CK2 that make the mongol invasion basically work more like subjugation than the invasion cb, so that they basically end up with huge empires that still have the native lords for the most part.
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Oct 30, 2013 08:15
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Speaking of Cathars, are their little misadventures in France in-game? Starting as a Cathar noble there would be pretty challenging.
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Oct 30, 2013 08:15
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Heck yeah, if anything gets me to do another Crusader Kings LP it's this expansion.
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Oct 30, 2013 08:31
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Thanqol posted:Heck yeah, if anything gets me to do another Crusader Kings LP it's this expansion. Hopefully with a EU4 conversion. 
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Oct 30, 2013 09:03
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There's no Germanic paganism in the game, is there? I'm pretty sure parts of Saxony would've still been un-Christianised by the time of the Old Gods start date. Or is that all pretty much under the umbrella of Norse paganism?
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Boing posted:There's no Germanic paganism in the game, is there? I'm pretty sure parts of Saxony would've still been un-Christianised by the time of the Old Gods start date. Or is that all pretty much under the umbrella of Norse paganism? Pretty sure that parts of modern day northeastern Germany start off as Pomeranian/Slavic pagan.
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Allyn posted:Pretty sure that parts of modern day northeastern Germany start off as Pomeranian/Slavic pagan. Yep!
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Oct 30, 2013 17:37
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Ofaloaf posted:Don't let me be emperor again. The paranoia I got as you gradually blobbed more and more and starting talking about an Occitan Empire or whatever were making me go a little nuts. My personal highlights from that game were the disputes over who would have Dauphine and Averngue, Toulouse-Burgundy or me to link my Occitan and alpine dominions, and you swiching to elective succession after a most of a bottle of whiskey.
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Oct 30, 2013 19:19
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 Haha I never had an event like this come up, pretty cool that they actually accounted for a scenario like this. Basically I ransomed the prisoner but it seems at some point between when I demanded the ransom and he agreed the event where your prisoner complains about conditions fired off but it wasnt brought to my attention until after I freed him. Well that or the guy is just senile. Oh and I think the Muslims got the better end of the deal in the peace negotiations. 
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Oct 30, 2013 20:50
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If I, playing as a feudal lord, create a merchant republic, is there a way for me to start playing them instead without cheating/using the console?
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Oct 31, 2013 01:19
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Bobfly posted:If I, playing as a feudal lord, create a merchant republic, is there a way for me to start playing them instead without cheating/using the console? Save your game, quit, reload your game, choose the head of the merchant republic as your new character to play. There's also a console command to switch rulers on the fly, although I don't recall what it is. This works any time you want to change your current active character.
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Right, yeah, okay. Dur. Thanks for bearing with me  Is there a way to transfer control ingame, though? I think it might make for an interesting narrative.
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