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Mercurius: May 4, 2004; Amp it up.

jackpot posted:

Coming from Snow Leopard, the changes to Spaces are really loving weird. I'm getting used to not just going ctrl+1, ctrl+2, etc to move through my spaces, but slowly. At this point I'm just not sure this is an improvement; I'm used to opening Photoshop and having it go here (space 4, left screen), and when I open Chrome it goes there (space 2, left screen). Now poo poo's going all over the place. Guess I'll get used to it.

You can still get it to do this behaviour. What you need to do is move the application windows to the space on the correct monitor (mission control is the easiest way to do this) then right click their icons on the dock and tell it to keep them on that space on that screen (option is in the submenu under keep in dock, can't remember exactly what it's called). That should combo with Mission Control's 'switch to a space with open windows for the application' setting to do what you want.

Edit: you might want to turn off 'arrange spaces based on use' in Mission Control preferences so everything's always in the same order.

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jackpot posted:

But then how would I use the calculator?
(I need the calculator, but I don't have enough real estate to leave it open all the time; that's literally the only useful part of Dashboard)

Command-Space 'c..a...l..' enter!

# ? Oct 28, 2013 21:54

cbirdsong: Sep 8, 2004; Commodore of the Apocalypso; Lipstick Apathy

Or just Command-Space and then start typing math:

# ? Oct 28, 2013 22:00

jackpot: Aug 31, 2004; First cousin to the Black Rabbit himself. Such was Woundwort's monument...and perhaps it would not have displeased him.<

^^ Still one more key than F12!

(plus, when I close spotlight it doesn't remember my answer the next time I open it)

Mercurius posted:

You can still get it to do this behaviour. What you need to do is move the application windows to the space on the correct monitor (mission control is the easiest way to do this) then right click their icons on the dock and tell it to keep them on that space on that screen (option is in the submenu under keep in dock, can't remember exactly what it's called). That should combo with Mission Control's 'switch to a space with open windows for the application' setting to do what you want.

Edit: you might want to turn off 'arrange spaces based on use' in Mission Control preferences so everything's always in the same order.

Ok, I've turned off "arrange spaces, I'll see what that does. But for instance I've got six desktops at the moment - 1 and 2 are on my laptop, and 3, 4, 5, and 6 are on my monitor. Photoshop is open on my monitor, but the only options I have for sticking it to are desktops 1 and 2. That's fine for when I'm at home - I want it to go to desktop 2 then - but when I'm back at work I want it to open on desktop 4.

Bob Morales posted:

Command-Space 'c..a...l..' enter!

F12 is four fewer keys!

# ? Oct 28, 2013 22:07

Mercurius: May 4, 2004; Amp it up.

jackpot posted:

^^ Still one more key than F12!
(plus, when I close spotlight it doesn't remember my answer the next time I open it)

Ok, I've turned off "arrange spaces, I'll see what that does. But for instance I've got six desktops at the moment - 1 and 2 are on my laptop, and 3, 4, 5, and 6 are on my monitor. Photoshop is open on my monitor, but the only options I have for sticking it to are desktops 1 and 2. That's fine for when I'm at home - I want it to go to desktop 2 then - but when I'm back at work I want it to open on desktop 4.

F12 is four fewer keys!

Just set it up when you're at work, it'll automatically move stuff to the laptop when it's the only display and then back to the right displays when you connect to your monitor. Mine does, anyway.

Edit: re-read what you actually wrote. Set it up at work and then disconnect the monitor and adjust the space pinning again. Mavericks treats each monitor separately so it should still be okay. I'll test it when I get to work since I do the same thing you do.

Mercurius fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Oct 28, 2013

# ? Oct 28, 2013 22:14

Luceo: Apr 29, 2003; As predicted in the Bible.

duck monster posted:

Why not just use adium?

IRC, mainly. I use Adium for everything else, but pidgin +no_x11 +quartz is quite nice these days.

# ? Oct 28, 2013 22:33

echobucket: Aug 19, 2004

jackpot posted:

But then how would I use the calculator?
(I need the calculator, but I don't have enough real estate to leave it open all the time; that's literally the only useful part of Dashboard)

Alfred. With Alfred I just type in my maths and it does it without launching an app.

# ? Oct 28, 2013 22:38

Star War Sex Parrot: Oct 2, 2003

Siri for math!

# ? Oct 28, 2013 22:43

IUG: Jul 14, 2007

So I forgot to give blood today. Wasn't there going to be a function in the calendar application to alert you before an event, and even figure out travel time and alert you when you should leave too?

Sorry Red Cross. :smith:

# ? Oct 28, 2013 23:30

benisntfunny: Dec 2, 2004; I'm Perfect.

IUG posted:

So I forgot to give blood today. Wasn't there going to be a function in the calendar application to alert you before an event, and even figure out travel time and alert you when you should leave too?

Sorry Red Cross.

Did you put a location on it?

# ? Oct 28, 2013 23:37

IUG: Jul 14, 2007

benisntfunny posted:

Did you put a location on it?

Yeah, it had an address on the location, and I remember trying to change the alert time so that it seemed to reference travel, but couldn't figure it out.

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Neurophonic: May 2, 2009

Is anybody else finding that some apps on Mavericks refuse to stay logged in? So far SimpleNote, DeskConnect and Evernote are the most prominent problem apps. I've removed and reinstalled them all from the MAS but no joy, even wiping out all preferences doesn't make a blind bit of difference either.

# ? Oct 29, 2013 01:10

Tippis: Mar 21, 2008; It's yet another day in the wasteland.

IUG posted:

Yeah, it had an address on the location, and I remember trying to change the alert time so that it seemed to reference travel, but couldn't figure it out.

�also, does it (or did it) know where it was right then? Having only experimented with it a little, I'd imagine that if you disallow calendar from reading your current location (or if it can't because you run entirely wired), it won't be able to calculate travel time in any meaningful way.

Neurophonic posted:

Is anybody else finding that some apps on Mavericks refuse to stay logged in? So far SimpleNote, DeskConnect and Evernote are the most prominent problem apps. I've removed and reinstalled them all from the MAS but no joy, even wiping out all preferences doesn't make a blind bit of difference either.

Have you checked that they're not app-napping? Depending on how they manage that connection, it's entirely possible that they time out or just get disconnected because OSX decides they've been to inactive to be allowed their normal CPU allotment. Of course, it should detect that they're trying to create or maintain that connection, but still�

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fartmanteau: Mar 15, 2007

I don't think this has been brought up yet. I updated my 2013 Air to Mavericks the day it came out. Now I'm getting this intermittent thing where there's no sound when I wake from sleep. The output device is still there, and it switches from Internal Speakers (built-in) to headphones as normal, but there is no output.

Restarting fixes it, but that really sucks. Before the updates my uptime was at more than two months.

Sounds like it's being discussed, but no fixes yet.

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japtor: Oct 28, 2005

Khelmar posted:

I copied my home directory over to the new partition, then specified it under Accounts -> Advanced settings -> home directory location. I'll check permissions when I get home, but it feels more like a FileVault issue - namely, it doesn't unlock anything other than the boot partition until after it tries to load preferences.

Maybe I should make symlinks for the stuff that's huge (photos, documents, music, etc.) and leave ~/Library on the boot partition?

Oh drat, I have no clue how FileVault would affect things in this case. Hopefully someone else can chime in.

As for leaving the user on the boot partition and symlinking stuff out, that's actually what I do...and am planning to move away from it once i get a fancy external enclosure :v:

. It works fine but would rather just have everything in one place again.

Molten Llama posted:

I've been using it since it went open source and trying to contribute to development. (I tried Sublime, but newer releases kept loving up my files. So back to the eternally-alpha TextMate.)

Functionally it's pretty solid�if you need to edit text and run your helper junk, it'll do that just fine.

Auxiliary things like plugin and theme management, documentation... That's all awful. But in a perfect world, you should only need to experience the horror of TM2's add-on manager once.

Heh thanks. My needs are pretty light so I figure I should be ok, guess I'll upgrade on a whim one day and hope it works.

# ? Oct 29, 2013 09:35

Hello Spaceman: Jan 18, 2005; hop, skip, and jumpgate

Neurophonic posted:

Is anybody else finding that some apps on Mavericks refuse to stay logged in? So far SimpleNote, DeskConnect and Evernote are the most prominent problem apps. I've removed and reinstalled them all from the MAS but no joy, even wiping out all preferences doesn't make a blind bit of difference either.

I don't use any of those, but Twitter does this and it's really testing my patience. Every time I relaunch it after quitting, it's forgotten all four Twitter accounts I've set up, and then I have to go through the setup process all over. Tried everything, from reinstalling using the App Store to deleting preferences. Bleh.

# ? Oct 29, 2013 10:48

Neurophonic: May 2, 2009

Hello Spaceman posted:

I don't use any of those, but Twitter does this and it's really testing my patience. Every time I relaunch it after quitting, it's forgotten all four Twitter accounts I've set up, and then I have to go through the setup process all over. Tried everything, from reinstalling using the App Store to deleting preferences. Bleh.

Just checked and the official Twitter app does it for me too.

Tippis posted:

Have you checked that they're not app-napping? Depending on how they manage that connection, it's entirely possible that they time out or just get disconnected because OSX decides they've been to inactive to be allowed their normal CPU allotment. Of course, it should detect that they're trying to create or maintain that connection, but still�

Definitely not, this happens if you open the app, login, then quit immediately and relaunch the app. On second load it has no knowledge of ever being setup with login details.

# ? Oct 29, 2013 13:00

jackpot: Aug 31, 2004; First cousin to the Black Rabbit himself. Such was Woundwort's monument...and perhaps it would not have displeased him.<

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

Siri for math!

That's...very impressive. Goddamn.

To answer my earlier question about wallpapers, you can't change them all at once - if you have multiple desktops already setup, you have to change them one by one. BUT, once you set the wallpaper for desktop 1 (or in the case of multiple monitors, once you set the wallpaper for your "first" desktop on each screen) all subsequent desktops you create will have the same wallpaper. Seems like it would've been really easy to add a "change on all desktops" option somewhere, but oh well.

Oh, fixed my photoshop cursor issue, too: reset all the settings by holding down shift-ctrl-opt-cmd (I think one of those isn't necessary, but I don't know which one) while opening it. Still don't know what caused it, although it's suspicious that it happened the same day I started using the Magic Mouse.

# ? Oct 29, 2013 14:04

mayodreams: Jul 4, 2003; Hello darkness,
my old friend

fartmanteau posted:

I don't think this has been brought up yet. I updated my 2013 Air to Mavericks the day it came out. Now I'm getting this intermittent thing where there's no sound when I wake from sleep. The output device is still there, and it switches from Internal Speakers (built-in) to headphones as normal, but there is no output.

Restarting fixes it, but that really sucks. Before the updates my uptime was at more than two months.

Sounds like it's being discussed, but no fixes yet.

Try booting into the recovery partition and doing a permissions repair from there. I've had that fix hardware/driver issues before where just doing it while the OS loaded doesn't work.

# ? Oct 29, 2013 15:27

korora: Sep 3, 2011

fartmanteau posted:

I don't think this has been brought up yet. I updated my 2013 Air to Mavericks the day it came out. Now I'm getting this intermittent thing where there's no sound when I wake from sleep. The output device is still there, and it switches from Internal Speakers (built-in) to headphones as normal, but there is no output.

Restarting fixes it, but that really sucks. Before the updates my uptime was at more than two months.

Sounds like it's being discussed, but no fixes yet.

Also try sudo killall coreaudiod, which has fixed weird audio problems for me in the past.

# ? Oct 29, 2013 16:20

Dr Rotcod: May 20, 2004; I see the consistently reoccurring disappointment and failure you will continue to cause yourselves.

Does anyone know of any OS X apps that would serve as a log of everything that happens in the Finder? I manage a lot of media and would love to have a receipt for all of my copies and different actions.

# ? Oct 29, 2013 22:08

Dick Trauma: Nov 30, 2007; God damn it, you've got to be kind.

I'm going from an old MBP with SL to a new Mavericks MBP. Most of my old software (CS2, Quicken, etc.) is not going to work on the new machine. Is it crazy to turn my old MBP into a VM and run it in Fusion for a while until I get things sorted out? It seems like it would be easier than having to keep both laptops in action while I transition things like my Quicken data to the Windows version. Paragon has a free piece of software for turning the old one into a VM that Fusion can use.

# ? Oct 29, 2013 23:57

Nuntius: May 7, 2004; (not a fag)

I had deleted the iWork 09 apps in my haste to move forward, but just restored them from the Time Machine drive.

I had some forms I'd made in Pages for students to fill out...3 copies of the form per page, and it put them all inline rather than one on top of each other and I couldn't fix it. Luckily I had to the documents backed up in Time Machine as well so that I could get them to the pre-opened with Pages 5.0 state.

I also miss the ability to password protect a PDF made in keynote to prevent printing and editing, but not opening, now the only option is a password for opening. I use this to give handouts to my colleagues without having them edit them and claim them as their own teaching materials.

I guess I'll be using the old 09 apps until the new ones catch up - but just like FCPX, I know they will eventually.

# ? Oct 30, 2013 00:45

wdarkk: Oct 26, 2007; Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

Nuntius posted:

I guess I'll be using the old 09 apps until the new ones catch up - but just like FCPX, I know they will eventually.

I wish Quicktime X would catch up.

# ? Oct 30, 2013 00:47

Mercurius: May 4, 2004; Amp it up.

Dick Trauma posted:

I'm going from an old MBP with SL to a new Mavericks MBP. Most of my old software (CS2, Quicken, etc.) is not going to work on the new machine. Is it crazy to turn my old MBP into a VM and run it in Fusion for a while until I get things sorted out? It seems like it would be easier than having to keep both laptops in action while I transition things like my Quicken data to the Windows version. Paragon has a free piece of software for turning the old one into a VM that Fusion can use.

Fusion might complain when you try and load the 10.6 VM because it's technically not legal to virtualise the client version of Snow Leopard. Snow Leopard server can be virtualised legally, though.

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Dick Trauma: Nov 30, 2007; God damn it, you've got to be kind.

VMware's site seemed to show it as a guest os option. Maybe I read it wrong.

# ? Oct 30, 2013 03:34

Mercurius: May 4, 2004; Amp it up.

Dick Trauma posted:

VMware's site seemed to show it as a guest os option. Maybe I read it wrong.

It is kind of a guest option because of server but it'll complain at you if you try and run a 10.6 VM.

Here are the options on the latest version of Fusion (provided the attachment works):

Only registered members can see post attachments!

# ? Oct 30, 2013 04:24

Axiem: Oct 19, 2005; I want to leave my mind blank, but I'm terrified of what will happen if I do

Is it just me, or is the Maps application really laggy and slow? It's almost as bad as Google Maps has gotten.

I also wonder how long it will be until we get a "Find My Friends" app for OS X. That would be really nice.

# ? Oct 30, 2013 04:59

Mikey-San: Nov 3, 2005; I'm Edith Head!

Bob Morales posted:

Nice piece about how Apple Mail is wreaking havoc:

http://blog.fastmail.fm/2013/10/26/mac-os-10-9-infinity-times-your-spam/

http://blog.fastmail.fm/2013/10/29/apple-mail-bug-turns-out-to-be-user-script-after-all/

# ? Oct 30, 2013 06:11

JHVH-1: Jun 28, 2002

All of my stuff goes through Plex these days after I built a Mac Mini media server. Its amazing how rarely I ever even think about movie players cause I use the Plex app or play the movie on my iPad.

# ? Oct 30, 2013 06:21

japtor: Oct 28, 2005

Axiem posted:

Is it just me, or is the Maps application really laggy and slow? It's almost as bad as Google Maps has gotten.

I also wonder how long it will be until we get a "Find My Friends" app for OS X. That would be really nice.

Runs fine here, 2011 Mac mini w/Radeon. Is it just everything about it laggy or particular things?

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Guni: Mar 11, 2010

Is there any way possible I can make my 2010 21inch iMac go into target display and have something input into it?

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rpop: Dec 17, 2003; noveo@ace

jackpot posted:

Coming from Snow Leopard, the changes to Spaces are really loving weird. I'm getting used to not just going ctrl+1, ctrl+2, etc to move through my spaces, but slowly. At this point I'm just not sure this is an improvement; I'm used to opening Photoshop and having it go here (space 4, left screen), and when I open Chrome it goes there (space 2, left screen). Now poo poo's going all over the place. Guess I'll get used to it.

I noticed Apple decided to ruin Spaces beginning with Lion; they're too tiny for me to read anything in the previews and they did away with the 3x3 grid I was fond of. I was pissed until I discovered TotalSpaces; all is well in my kingdom again.

# ? Oct 30, 2013 08:46

the_lion: Jun 8, 2010; On the hunt for prey...

Is there a way to stop mavericks from telling me that I have low battery in my mouse?

It's told me 3-4 times, I rathered when the batteries go dead I just replaced them.
They aren't dead, because said mouse is still working!

the_lion fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Oct 30, 2013

# ? Oct 30, 2013 11:28

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Guni posted:

Is there any way possible I can make my 2010 21inch iMac go into target display and have something input into it?

Nope, only the 27" models can do it until recently.

# ? Oct 30, 2013 12:30

DJCobol: May 16, 2003; CALL OF DUTY!; Grimey Drawer

Is network settings sharing now a thing between OSX and iOS now? My MBP now has a huge list of networks its never been on that more than likely came from my phone. Also, if I add/remove a device from a wireless network, the other one follows behind shortly. For example, when I get to work I put my MBP on the Wi-Fi network, but I don't connect my phone so I can still use things like gmail, facebook, etc., all the poo poo that work usually blocks. Within a few minutes though, somehow my phone got added to the network. I remove the phone from the network, and then within 5 minutes both my MBP and iPad are off the network too. Re-add the MPB and iPad, and the phone joins right back in.

Please tell me there is a way to turn this poo poo off.

# ? Oct 30, 2013 14:10

Dick Trauma: Nov 30, 2007; God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Mercurius posted:

It is kind of a guest option because of server but it'll complain at you if you try and run a 10.6 VM.

Here are the options on the latest version of Fusion (provided the attachment works):

http://www.macworld.com/article/1163755/vmware_fusion_update_lets_users_virtualize_leopard_snow_leopard.html

I might as well try it and see what happens.

# ? Oct 30, 2013 14:20

IUG: Jul 14, 2007

So Mail for Mavericks is pretty garbage now, right? I know a few will joke about the "now" part, but since upgrading my Inboxes don't stay sorted. I'll delete and email or file away an email into a folder, and it will eventually copy another version of that email in the Inbox. The email stays in the folder/trash, but a new copy will make its way back into the Inbox. If I delete/move the email, and then quickly quit the program, there's a good chance that it will stay sorted, but I liked having the program open 24/7 before Mavericks.

# ? Oct 30, 2013 15:30