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baka kaba posted:Well the reason I mentioned the wound G is that Tele has the vintage 3-barrel bridge, right? That's correct, and that's a good point I had forgotten.
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CitrusFrog posted:Help. I bought an 8-string guitar earlier this year but I am in dire need of motivation to play it. It sits there taunting me for my inadequacy. Mainly I'm in need of suggestions for songs to listen to/practice without having to tune the thing to some really strange open tuning such as used in Monuments - The Uncollective. I know the last 2 Deftones albums were done on 8s and the whole djent genre is based around 8s but there are so many ridiculously complex arrangements I wouldn't even know where to start. For the most part when I have noodled around on it I've almost exclusively used the thing as a replacement for my downtuned 6-string (tuned to B Standard or Drop A depending on mood) and a little bit for attempting stuff like Nevermore. Agoraphobic Nosebleed? That's about the only band I listen to that uses them. Transposing stuff to low F#/E/whatever is fun too. For a while I was jamming with a drummer tuned to drop D without a bassist, but he had to go back to prison. Total drummer move. iostream.h posted:I played Ernie Ball regular slinkies for around 20 years until I recently tried Dean Markley Blue Steel and have wondered what the hell I was thinking. I had started using the EB cobalts on my PRS CU24 to brighten it up a bit but now that I put the Burstbuckers in it I'll probably switch it to the Blue Steels as well. I like Blue Steels a lot, but they seem to die a lot quicker on me than D'Addarios, even though pretty much everyone thinks D'Addarios die right out of the pack. 
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Oct 29, 2013 05:38
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comes along bort posted:Agoraphobic Nosebleed? I'll give them a listen, thanks for the suggestion. Transposing Judas Priest tracks down an octave or so has produced some interesting-sounding results in my general noodling when looking for inspiration, and one of the benefits of the 8-string's tuning has been playing Carcass and Crowbar without any downtuning, but that F# loves to just start resonating with the slightest provocation meaning I've had to adopt the wraparound thumb technique to mute it a lot of the time, which on an 8-string guitar even with my large hands can feel really unwieldy and distracting.
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Oct 29, 2013 05:52
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If drop D on a six string is good enough for Page Hamilton, it's good enough for you, you whippersnappers!
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Oct 29, 2013 06:01
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Man I still want that brushed aluminum Page Hamilton ESP. It's so sick
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Oct 29, 2013 06:05
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jwh posted:If drop D on a six string is good enough for Page Hamilton, it's good enough for you, you whippersnappers! I won't be happy until I can make people poop themselves with a triple-octave-dropped twenty-four string tuned to "brown note"
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Oct 29, 2013 06:06
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So I borrowed Rocksmith from a friend. Man I suck at it. I thought I was alright at guitar but I'm rubbish at Rocksmith. I think I'm not really a visual learner because once I know the progression/melody/riff I can get it fine but translating those dots to notes? My brain doesn't like it.
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Oct 29, 2013 06:51
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syntaxfunction posted:So I borrowed Rocksmith from a friend. Man I suck at it. I thought I was alright at guitar but I'm rubbish at Rocksmith. I think I'm not really a visual learner because once I know the progression/melody/riff I can get it fine but translating those dots to notes? My brain doesn't like it. I hate the Guitar Hero style of notation too. The colour coding of the strings messes me up and all poo poo flying everywhere makes it hard for me to see the fret numbers. I haven't played the new version, but the original's 'Riff Repeater' sucks. There's no metronome. It only plays whole sections of the song so if you're trying to decipher what's happening in the last bar of that section it's a huge pain. Everything is slow to navigate around.
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Oct 29, 2013 07:11
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CitrusFrog posted:Transposing Judas Priest tracks down an octave or so has produced some interesting-sounding results in my general noodling when looking for inspiration, and one of the benefits of the 8-string's tuning has been playing Carcass and Crowbar without any downtuning, but that F# loves to just start resonating with the slightest provocation meaning I've had to adopt the wraparound thumb technique to mute it a lot of the time, which on an 8-string guitar even with my large hands can feel really unwieldy and distracting. I haven't had that problem. Usually my palm's resting on the bottom couple strings if I'm playing the higher ones, but it might also be because I use a bass string for the low F# since almost no regular string is long enough to fit the reverse headstock Agile uses. The B string barely makes it through and you don't quite get two wraps around the post. What gauge strings are you using?
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Oct 29, 2013 07:12
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comes along bort posted:I haven't had that problem. Usually my palm's resting on the bottom couple strings if I'm playing the higher ones, but it might also be because I use a bass string for the low F# since almost no regular string is long enough to fit the reverse headstock Agile uses. The B string barely makes it through and you don't quite get two wraps around the post. What gauge strings are you using? The bog standard ones that came with the guitar. For some reason ESP in their infinite wisdom(?) tell me that the thickest string the tuning post on the H-308 will accept is .068. Rather weird seeing as most 8-string sets I see have a bottom end in the .80/.84 range. I need to get a new set of strings on it, ensuring the bottom end is fat enough to properly support the lower standard tuning without getting all flappy and bending too easily (which that under-gauged F# does all the time). It amuses and boggles me that my M-10 is strung with heavier gauge steel than my H-308. Apparently I'll need to find either tapered strings or have the tuning post bored out. Hexenritter fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Oct 29, 2013 |
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Oct 29, 2013 07:36
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You can also just unwind the bit of the string that goes through the post.
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Oct 29, 2013 07:57
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A bit late for String chat, but if you are in the UK give Rotosound's a try. Much better than Ernie Balls and D'addarios. They also give you an extra high e string for when you inevitably gently caress up and snap one.
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Oct 29, 2013 08:54
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Sadsack posted:A bit late for String chat, but if you are in the UK give Rotosound's a try. Much better than Ernie Balls and D'addarios. They also give you an extra high e string for when you inevitably gently caress up and snap one. Not in Blighty any more but that would have saved me so much money a long time ago when I used to restring my guitar without owning a tuner/knowing anything about guitars.
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Oct 29, 2013 08:59
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Sadsack posted:A bit late for String chat, but if you are in the UK give Rotosound's a try. Much better than Ernie Balls and D'addarios. They also give you an extra high e string for when you inevitably gently caress up and snap one. Also adding that they're available in Canada through L&M (though I guess that doesn't really matter if you have a seething burning hatred of them). I like them better in general than D'Addarios (always found them too bright), EB's (never really 'got' them outside of the Cobalts), and DR Pure Blues (they sound great, just not always with everything).
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Oct 29, 2013 09:25
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Sadsack posted:A bit late for String chat, but if you are in the UK give Rotosound's a try. Much better than Ernie Balls and D'addarios. They also give you an extra high e string for when you inevitably gently caress up and snap one. Been meaning to try those since I saw Guthrie Govan using them on a youtube, they're actually a lot easier to get here in Japan than DRs.
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Oct 29, 2013 09:58
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CitrusFrog posted:Not in Blighty any more but that would have saved me so much money a long time ago when I used to restring my guitar without owning a tuner/knowing anything about guitars. I used to have a Squier Mustang whose bridge ate B strings like a fat man eats Haribo. Having a spare high e string hanging around saved me from having to buy a complete new set so many times
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Oct 29, 2013 10:28
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Sadsack posted:I used to have a Squier Mustang whose bridge ate B strings like a fat man eats Haribo. Having a spare high e string hanging around saved me from having to buy a complete new set so many times My Epiphone lived on a hearty diet of high E's and B's, but it was more to do with the fact that my guitar wasn't actually tuned properly and I had no idea what the hell I was doing short of "ok, next string should sound like the last one on its fifth fret." When I go home to visit my parents I'm going to attach a tuner to the old girl and see exactly what the gently caress each string was tuned to.
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Oct 29, 2013 10:50
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Torabi posted:I bet this will sound stupid and all but I'm new to the whole guitar playing thing. Why are tabs seemingly "upside down?" I mean, it doesn't make sense to me that the first string on my guitar is at the bottom of tabs. You're a beginner, right? So often you have to bend and look over your guitar at your fretboard to see where to put your fingers? What string is on the bottom? What string is on the bottom on a tab? What do you use the tab for? To see where to put your fingers. The tab matches what you see and have to do. I don't know why Rocksmith does it wrong by default. quote:I hate the Guitar Hero style of notation too. The colour coding of the strings messes me up and all poo poo flying everywhere makes it hard for me to see the fret numbers. Not coincidentally both of these were massively improved in 2014. Fret numbers are put next to notes and the riff repeater is way more flexible. As for the notation, you get used to it pretty quickly. I've always used tabs before Rocksmith, but the scrolling tabs display that Bandfuse seems to use does not look user-friendlier to me to sight-read than what Rocksmith does.
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baka kaba posted:Well the reason I mentioned the wound G is that Tele has the vintage 3-barrel bridge, right? Just to be clear, the reasoning here is to get a wound G so intonation is easier since both strings on the saddle would be wound?
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I just gave up after maybe 10 hours. Between tab, bass clef, treble clef there's plenty of notation I'd rather be investing my time in.
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Oct 29, 2013 14:49
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havelock posted:Just to be clear, the reasoning here is to get a wound G so intonation is easier since both strings on the saddle would be wound? I think so. All I know is that most vintage bridges are designed to be used with wound G strings and you should get a compensated intonation bridge if you want to use any lighter gauge string (or you can get a bridge with individual saddles for almost any type of guitar but I kind of like to set-it-and-forget-it)
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Oct 29, 2013 16:50
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A while back I made a foot pedal setup to work with my Roland Cubes. I hate stringing three stereo cables across the floor to it, so I did some tinkering. Now I have three stereo cables and 9V power going into one cable to run out to the pedal board with the ability to give juice to some Boss units. 
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havelock posted:Just to be clear, the reasoning here is to get a wound G so intonation is easier since both strings on the saddle would be wound? This is just stuff I've heard, I was honestly hoping someone else would jump in with an explanation  and I was on my phone anyway, but here goes. Best have a look at this too:http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-technical/371084-wound-g-why-intonation-better.html Basically yeah what you said, when you have a three-saddle bridge you're sharing each intonation adjustment between two strings, which is a bit of a compromise, so sharing between two wound strings is better than one wound and one not. Some saddles have compensated contact points too, like this  See how on each barrel one edge is further forward than the other? That's because generally as you go down from higher pitched strings to lower ones, the string needs to be longer, so the edge needs to be set further back. There's a difference between wound and unwound strings too, so the thinnest wound string's saddle is usually further forward than the thickest unwound one. That's why when you see individual saddles they're usually in that typical stepped shape.  That top picture is actually for a unwound G, because you can see the G saddle is further back than the D one on the same piece, so that's obviously the transition from unwound to wound. The bottom picture is the same, but you can see it easier - two groups of three. With a wound G you'd have this kind of pattern  Anyway bla bla check your saddle situation and just bear it in mind. A lot of people hate wound Gs (I've never even tried one  ) so yeah
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CitrusFrog posted:The bog standard ones that came with the guitar. For some reason ESP in their infinite wisdom(?) tell me that the thickest string the tuning post on the H-308 will accept is .068. Rather weird seeing as most 8-string sets I see have a bottom end in the .80/.84 range. I need to get a new set of strings on it, ensuring the bottom end is fat enough to properly support the lower standard tuning without getting all flappy and bending too easily (which that under-gauged F# does all the time). I was gonna say you should be able to string something thicker but I looked at the ESP tuner set I pulled from my Viper and turns out they are just a little larger than 1/16". Welp there's always aftermarket tuners. Wilkinsons are pretty cheap and the holes are big enough. And the H-308 is 25.5" scale too, right? That must be rubber band city.
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Everyone should buy a Stewart-McDonald string action gauge. I received mine yesterday and had tears of joy running down my face when I found out it fit in my wallet. It's the best thing.
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Pocket Billiards posted:I just gave up after maybe 10 hours. Between tab, bass clef, treble clef there's plenty of notation I'd rather be investing my time in. screw music notation and just learn by ear? Just play everything by ear, mayne. also, 10 hours? Got 5 minutes a day for the next year? That's 30 more hours right there. It takes work, to get good at anything, but there's no pressure here.
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Mastering Rockband video game notation is pretty far down my list of priorities. Developing me ear is an ongoing thing. If I wanted to work on ear training with Rockband songs, I wouldn't be doing it in Rockband, navigating around in the riff repeater is pain in the arse. For me personally, reading and transcribing to the stave really helped me with my ear training. I'm not talking pitch, but hearing a phrase or rhythm and being able to think about it in terms of subdivision of the beat.
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Coonskin_Cap posted:Axemusic it is then PS: It'll beat my order from LA Music placed Oct 11 I bet. But I need to wait for a new strap from Couch before posting anyhow...
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Going to head over to the local music store before their store-wide 15% off sale and try out some Wah pedals. Any suggestions for one with a decent range? I've only ever screwed around on a Dunlop CryBaby, so I don't know what is actually better/worse out there. Just some ideas of particular models that stood out to you guys.
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I like the Dunlop 535Q these days but I used a Morley Bad Horsie for a long time and really dug it.
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Sockington posted:Going to head over to the local music store before their store-wide 15% off sale and try out some Wah pedals. I use an AMT Japanese Girl when I use a separate wah instead of just rolling with my G5; I like how compact it is but I don't know that you'd be able to find it in a store.
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I'm rolling with a Dunlop MC404 CAE. I've had a huge struggle trying to find a wah I like and this one is the only one I've liked using. It gives you a boost and the ability to quick switch between a snappy stratty sound and a deeper fat throaty one. It's not perfect (still have to get in there and adjust the trim pots) but it's true bypass, covers a good range of usable sounds, and feels sturdy. I'd replace it if I could find a wah with tb, just on/off controls, and a very usable even movement the entire distance.
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Took this big panoramic picture last night of my favorite guitar shop and place to hang out, a place called Luthier's Coop in Easthampton, Massachusetts. They have a lot of nice instruments, and they also built a bar inside, so you can stop by and chat and drink a beer. It's really great. http://imgur.com/2elnCgH
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Oct 31, 2013 19:24
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jwh posted:
This is a genius idea. That place looks amazing.
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Oct 31, 2013 19:26
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I'm not much of a wah guy, but what I've heard of the Jerry Cantrell Crybaby is just so loving sick. The Vox wahs sound nice too.
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jwh posted:Took this big panoramic picture last night of my favorite guitar shop and place to hang out, a place called Luthier's Coop in Easthampton, Massachusetts.
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Oct 31, 2013 19:45
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jwh posted:Took this big panoramic picture last night of my favorite guitar shop and place to hang out, a place called Luthier's Coop in Easthampton, Massachusetts. Never been a bar type but I could lose so many days there. So cool.
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Oct 31, 2013 19:49
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I assume the wall by the tables is all Epiphones and Squiers?
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iostream.h posted:I like the Dunlop 535Q these days but I used a Morley Bad Horsie for a long time and really dug it. I've owned a couple Morley switchless wahs. Why more companies don't make them is a mystery.
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I really like the idea behind morley's switchless pedals but I've never tried one because I don't use wahs or volume pedals. Give me a morley whammy then we'll talk.
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