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Peruser posted:Native South Africans are white? More of a pinkish tan shade apparently.
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withak posted:More of a pinkish tan shade apparently.
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Nov 1, 2013 00:02
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Apparently they are relatively light skinned. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khoikhoi
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GreenCard78 posted:I was talking to a friend who the Midwest yesterday about the different areas of DC and the surrounding burbs. Got an email from him today with this in it: 
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Nov 1, 2013 00:02
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Peruser posted:Native South Africans are white? Current language families in Africa:  The color line is an arbitrary distinction, but I think the map is referring to the Khoikhoi who shared the region with (sometimes darker-skinned) Bantu speakers around the time the Dutch showed up. I don't know how important Khoisan people or culture are in South Africa today - all of the 10 official languages are either Bantu or Germanic families. e: I should probably point out that this is one grouping for African languages, but there's not a clear consensus in linguistics about the origin of all these groups, and there may never be. Vivian Darkbloom fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Nov 1, 2013 |
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Nov 1, 2013 00:05
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brocretin posted:Was the claim that Australia has more provinces than China ever substantiated? Cuz if so, them's some priorities. A quick count of the provinces seems to reveal that that's not actually the case. Australia looks to have 45 provinces, while China has more than that, perhaps on the order of 60-70? I didn't actually count them all. And it will depend on exactly where you draw the borders for China. I was counting the 'core' Han provinces. Of course, that's still utterly ridiculous.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:A quick count of the provinces seems to reveal that that's not actually the case. Australia looks to have 45 provinces, while China has more than that, perhaps on the order of 60-70? I didn't actually count them all. And it will depend on exactly where you draw the borders for China. I was counting the 'core' Han provinces. You haven't seen the worst of it.
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Nov 1, 2013 00:27
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Kavak posted:You haven't seen the worst of it. Man, a billion more provinces in Siberia and North America is EXACTLY what this World War II game was missing!
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Nov 1, 2013 00:54
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Kavak posted:You haven't seen the worst of it.  Good Lord man, what is this even supposed to represent anymore? Like are we trying to approach some kind of singularity where there are so many microprovinces that units just move like in any other RTS to whatever point you right click on instead of going from province to province?
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Nov 1, 2013 01:00
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:Current language families in Africa: My understanding of the current classification scheme is that Afro-Asiatic is well-established, most of the languages in Niger-Congo are uncontroversially placed within the family but the internal classification is hotly debated, Nilo-Saharan is a somewhat questionable grouping, and the Khoisan languages are definitely several unrelated families rather than a single coherent one (and of course Malagasy's closest relatives are on the island of Borneo).
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DrProsek posted:
I don't know- they add a somewhat reasonable number of provinces in areas like Eastern Europe and North Africa, which makes war more focused on maneuvering and tactics then slamming lots of units together, then they get to areas that aren't important and really should be designed to be easily managed from the map and they go crazy. I don't think anybody has actually played a game on this yet, or, god help them, programmed the AI for it- that'll probably be the point it falls apart.
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Nov 1, 2013 01:07
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GreenCard78 posted:I was talking to a friend who the Midwest yesterday about the different areas of DC and the surrounding burbs. Got an email from him today with this in it: For some reason I feel vaguely bad about the fact that I can look at that map and identify where Rivet City should be.
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Nov 1, 2013 01:34
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Kavak posted:You haven't seen the worst of it. I guess I can sort of understand the impulse, which is that now there's a base DH map for pretty much any historical or alt-historical scenario you'd want to play - conceivably those fifteen Wyoming provinces could become important in the great tank offensive by Manitoba ultranationalists. MEIOU tries to attempt more or less the same thing for its time period, but I think it ends up even worse than that Darkest Hour mod, given the design restrictions of EUIV. Recent goodies off Strange Maps:  Historical fires in the Yosemite area. I wasn't far from the Rim blaze. If you want to know why this is politically-loaded, I recommend a trip on one of the highways through the Sierra during fire season.  Competing claims over Gibraltar. Spain lost it in 1704, during the War of the Spanish Succession; I don't think they realized how important it would be later.
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GreenCard78 posted:I was talking to a friend who the Midwest yesterday about the different areas of DC and the surrounding burbs. Got an email from him today with this in it: I had to look up Theodore Roosevelt Island to make sure it wasn't some kind of enclave in Virginia. But in doing so I did notice some weird minor ones which I double checked in USGS maps. Here's an example of some:   Anyone know the story behind these?
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Nov 1, 2013 02:19
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:
The whole region has a lot of little spotty enclaves that make for interesting visiting if you're ever in the area.  Also, Here's a map of lactase persistence. I only recently found out that the majority of the world's population has some intolerance to lactose and the ability to digest it is the exception. The locations of the persistence hot spots are rather interesting. 
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Nov 1, 2013 02:23
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Anyway, here's a map that ideally wouldn't be politically loaded. Does anyone have sources depicting the skin color of natives from Brazil's northeast corner? I've never seen them described as nearly so dark before. Actually A Buttery Pastry, do you know where the data in this map comes from?
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Nov 1, 2013 03:04
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How do these lactose intolerance studies work? I live in Korea and I had always thought most people here would be lactose intolerant, but everybody consumes dairy all the time here and it doesn't seem to bother anyone. The dairy aisle at my grocery store is bigger than it was in the US, there are probably two hundred different brands of milk and yogurts.
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Grand Fromage posted:How do these lactose intolerance studies work? I live in Korea and I had always thought most people here would be lactose intolerant, but everybody consumes dairy all the time here and it doesn't seem to bother anyone. The dairy aisle at my grocery store is bigger than it was in the US, there are probably two hundred different brands of milk and yogurts. Here's the study that map was taken from: http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2148/10/36 Apparently most of the data was gathered by breath hydrogen and blood glucose tests. I'm guessing that there is a spread of intolerance from so mild you wouldn't notice in your day to day life to the severe, but that's just me guessing. I've lived in a country that map indicates has a high level of lactose intolerance and everybody chugged milk all the time as well so I never really thought about it until I came across that map.
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Nov 1, 2013 03:58
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Yeah, I've heard in Japan most people have really mild symptoms and just consider them part of everyday life.
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ptk posted:Anyone know the story behind these? Another politically-loaded map: For a couple of centuries between about 740 and 960, Khazaria was the largest Jewish state the world has seen. Its leaders converted from Tengriism partly to resist the Byzantine Empire and the Caliphate, who kept pressuring them to choose between Orthodox Christianity and Islam. By instead embracing Judaism, they gained a little more respect from both by becoming people of the book, while also maintaining full independence. 
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Nov 1, 2013 04:08
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Milk never caught on in the far east for some reason. I've heard that it's because the steppe peoples drank milk and cheese and ate beef and whatnot and so it became synonomous with barbarism in Japan, China, Korea, etc. Could be BS though, I've never really looked into it.
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Nov 1, 2013 04:15
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Raising cattle for milk and meat never caught on in Japan until the late 19th to 20th century because they didn't really have the land to spare for grazing land or growing feed when all the best arable acreage was devoted to rice cultivation. Once they had stable access to imported food, fertilizers, and modern farming techniques, it became a major industry in northern Japan, especially Hokkaido, which was largely undeveloped at the time.
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Nov 1, 2013 05:58
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HBar posted:Under the Compact of 1785, Maryland owns the Potomac but Virginia has usage rights. (This was part of a Supreme Court case 10 years ago when Maryland unsuccessfully tried to block Fairfax County from building a water intake pipe. They claimed it would contribute to sprawl which hurts Maryland's interests, even though Maryland's sprawl is exactly the same.) When the boundaries were legally drawn, some of them were made with imprecise point-to-point segments like the one you see near Chain Bridge. It's not as much as it should be but we at least try to embrace Smart Growth whereas Virginia does not. 
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Fojar38 posted:Milk never caught on in the far east for some reason. I've heard that it's because the steppe peoples drank milk and cheese and ate beef and whatnot and so it became synonomous with barbarism in Japan, China, Korea, etc. Call me a barbarian because this poo poo is loving delicious.
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Squalid posted:Does anyone have sources depicting the skin color of natives from Brazil's northeast corner? I've never seen them described as nearly so dark before. Actually A Buttery Pastry, do you know where the data in this map comes from?
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Fuel prices in Europe in 2007:  and 2013: 
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Tonton Macoute posted:Fuel prices in Europe in 2007:
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There is no requirement to offer 95 octane, but oil companies provide it because it them more money. Also 3/4 of the petrol prices in Europe are simply tax (oil, VAT).
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Ofaloaf posted:It was only recently that I realized that regular gas stations here don't even sell 95 octane fuel-- the highest grade is 93 (usually) and commonplace 'regular' gas is 87 octane, which might account a little for the highest gas costs over yonder. Why does Europe demand such high-octane grades, even for everyday commuter cars and the like? They are not the same measure.
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Ofaloaf posted:It was only recently that I realized that regular gas stations here don't even sell 95 octane fuel-- the highest grade is 93 (usually) and commonplace 'regular' gas is 87 octane, which might account a little for the highest gas costs over yonder. Why does Europe demand such high-octane grades, even for everyday commuter cars and the like? No idea, but speaking personally I don't really want to have a think at the pump about which kind of fuel to put in my car. Other than the requirement to either use petrol or diesel, one of the straightforward things about driving here is that regardless of whether I'm driving a city car or a sports car or a 4x4, when I show up at the petrol station I just put the go fast juice in the car and the car works for a little while longer.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:They are not the same measure. Reveilled posted:No idea, but speaking personally I don't really want to have a think at the pump about which kind of fuel to put in my car. Other than the requirement to either use petrol or diesel, one of the straightforward things about driving here is that regardless of whether I'm driving a city car or a sports car or a 4x4, when I show up at the petrol station I just put the go fast juice in the car and the car works for a little while longer. I just hit regular and never think about gas quality, either.
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Nov 1, 2013 13:14
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Ofaloaf posted:What, it's called the same thing but measured differently? Is this a thing like US v. US v. UK gallons? Wikipedia says that the number on American pumps is the "anti knock index", which is an average of two different ways of measuring the octane rating of a fuel, the research octane number and the motor octane number, while european petrol is rated just on the research octane number. So 87 in America is about 92 in Europe, and Unleaded here in the UK which is about 95 would be 91 in America.
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HBar posted:Under the Compact of 1785, Maryland owns the Potomac but Virginia has usage rights. (This was part of a Supreme Court case 10 years ago when Maryland unsuccessfully tried to block Fairfax County from building a water intake pipe. They claimed it would contribute to sprawl which hurts Maryland's interests, even though Maryland's sprawl is exactly the same.) When the boundaries were legally drawn, some of them were made with imprecise point-to-point segments like the one you see near Chain Bridge. In other places the river naturally shifts a little bit over time but you don't want to redraw the state borders every time that happens. Another politically loaded thing about the Khazars: a lot of anti-semites like to justify their hatred by claiming that modern-day Jews are all or almost all descendants of the Khazars and not the ancient Israelites, and thus aren't really "God's chosen people." This has been disproven by DNA analysis, but is ridiculous for a variety of other reasons, not the least of which is the vast majority of Khazars never converted to Judaism, only the leaders.
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Pakled posted:Another politically loaded thing about the Khazars: a lot of anti-semites like to justify their hatred by claiming that modern-day Jews are all or almost all descendants of the Khazars and not the ancient Israelites, and thus aren't really "God's chosen people." This has been disproven by DNA analysis, but is ridiculous for a variety of other reasons, not the least of which is the vast majority of Khazars never converted to Judaism, only the leaders. Yeah. We now know that they are descended from Italians. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/09/science/ashkenazi-origins-may-be-with-european-women-study-finds.html?_r=0
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Tonton Macoute posted:Fuel prices in Europe in 2007: Why is Norway so expensive? They're by far the largest oil exporter in Europe, and a lot of that industry is under government control, so there's no reason why oil prices should be high there. If anything, political pressure should lead to cheaper domestic prices, especially in a state with a harsh northern climate and low population density, both of which mean more fuel use.
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Isn't everything expensive in Norway?
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It's just the amount of taxes raised on petrol in Norway (and most of the other European countries) that take it up. In Norway there's a CO2 tax as well as a general road use tax on it.
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For the Americans reading this: Note that the Norway gas prize of 1.90 eur per liter is equal to about $9.70 per gallon. Americans, you can stop complaining about high gas prizes now. It's way worse in Europe.
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If you compare gas prices to average income, I'm pretty sure the gas in Norway is on the cheaper side.
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Carbon dioxide posted:For the Americans reading this: Note that the Norway gas prize of 1.90 eur per liter is equal to about $9.70 per gallon. Americans also drive far more often and for much longer distances than Europeans do, and our cars have historically had far worse gas mileage. Gasoline, on average, accounts for upwards of 5% of all money an American spends in a given year. That said, I'm going to guess that average is roughly on par with European spending. Maybe Americans just get much more riled up about gas because we fill up three times as often?
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