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James Woods
Jul 15, 2003

Corbeau posted:

Not culturally; my great-grandparents explicitly aimed at integrating with "American" culture, so I have almost nothing of Polish culture. But I'm at least 1/2 Polish and roughly 1/4th German from the perspective of ancestry, and I've been on a European history binge recently.

Naturally, being American, I express this interest via consumerism:



:v:

Planning to do the whole army as an Oath:

Panoceania - Military Order | 9 models
________________________________________________________

Teutonic Knight Spitfire (46|2)
Teutonic Knight Lieutenant (42|1)
Teutonic Knight Combi (42|0)
Order Sergeant TO Sniper (39|1.5)
Magister Knight Shotgun (31|0)
Order Sergeant TO FO (29|0)
Order Sergeant TO FO (29|0)
Order Sergeant MSV2 Spitfire (25|1.5)
Indigo Combi () (13|0)
________________________________________________________

296/300 points | 6/6 swc
open with Aleph Toolbox : http://goo.gl/9RNdET

(Yes, all at once. Yes, I am insane. Yes, I think TO FO Order Sergeants are awesome.)

As long as you're spending the points on two TO FOs why not also get something that can use FO effectively? You could field Fusileers with Light Grenade Launchers for 15pts and 1 SWC each or a Clipper with a Guided Missile Launcher for 34pts and 1 SWC. If you could trim a bit more fat you could also slide a Knight Montessa with a LGL in there. If placed dead center on the board with Mechanized Infantry he is no more than 34" from any point on the table and has the following percentages to hit with no line of sight necessary if the target is hit by an FO; 85% for 0-16" (In nearly all the ITS scenarios every objective will be within this zone) 55% for 16-24" and 40% for every other spot on the table. With two hidden FOs backed up by the Sniper your opponent will be walking on eggshells trying to make his way up the board while you casually take objectives. Something like this would be a hoot to play.

MILITARY ORDERS
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GROUP 1 9 0 0

KNIGHT OF MONTESA Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, AP CCW. (1.5 | 51)
TEUTONIC KNIGHT Lieutenant Combi Rifle, Panzerfaust / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 42)
TEUTONIC KNIGHT Spitfire / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 46)
TEUTONIC KNIGHT Combi Rifle, Panzerfaust / Pistol, AP CCW. (42)
SPEC. SERGEANT (CH: TO Camouflage, Infiltration) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 39)
SPEC. SERGEANT (CH: TO Camouflage, Infiltration, Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (29)
SPEC. SERGEANT (CH: TO Camouflage, Infiltration, Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (29)
ÍNDIGO (WIP14, Doctor, Hacking Device, AD: Inferior Combat Jump) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (13 | 12XP)
FUGAZI DRONBOT Electric Pulse. (8)

6 SWC | 299 Points

Open with Army 4

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Asphyxious
Jun 25, 2012

I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life.
So the Anaconda's out, any idea where we'll get the rules from?

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


They'll be uploaded to the devilteam builder in due time whenever they feel like.

When it hits public release date on the shelves, CB will post a PDF with its rules.

Direwolf
Aug 16, 2004
Fwar
So as someone who's slowly building a PanO force, and planning to force my friends to come along with, would http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1621774283/battle-systemstm-sci-fi-modular-terrain be a good terrain option? As it's setup it's indoorsy and not really like what I've seen so far for Infinity, but the different wall sections + little boxes would presumably be usable without creating rooms with them, ie scatter them about for a battlefield.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
I'm sceptical. This pic looks OK, but generally you'd need a shitton of random cover - crates, furniture, raised areas you can dive behind, etc.

TastyAvocado
Dec 9, 2009
It looks like it does come with a bunch of stuff, and it looks like the stretch goals are going to be mostly extra little things. For example it comes with 15 of those crates that they only appear to be using 3 of in that picture. That's quite a few crates you can throw around to block LoS here and there. I suspect by the time it's funded it'll come with more than enough little stuff.

The most annoying thing to me are the little acrylic clips that you can't see well in the pictures but are more noticeable real life, but this seems to pull it off much better than that terraclips terrain that wyrd games did (mostly because the walls cover up all the clips holding the floor tiles together).

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


That terrain looks nifty, not sure how playable it is though as it's sort of hard to make anything out, you know?

Has anyone got the Bandua terrain stuff yet? One of the guys in our club is going to pick some up, but I'd love to see it in-person or on a photograph that isn't advertisements.




Really want that dragon to be an LFT or something.

Bob Smith
Jan 5, 2006
Well Then, What Shall We Start With?
Edit: I'm an idiot, re-reading the rulebook we both managed to miss the bit that said Forward Observe "Cannot Be Used In ARO"


Bob Smith fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Nov 3, 2013

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

I rather would like an explanation as to why they're putting dragons in my sci fi.

Bob Smith
Jan 5, 2006
Well Then, What Shall We Start With?

Fix posted:

I rather would like an explanation as to why they're putting dragons in my sci fi.

I think the flavour behind it, for what it's worth, is it's either some kind of native alien wildlife she domesticated, or a crazy Nomad genetically engineered thing.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


It's the latter.

Dr. Clockwork
Sep 9, 2011

I'LL PUT MY SCIENCE IN ALL OF YOU!
How big are the buildings you guys usually use for terrain?

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

Fix posted:

I rather would like an explanation as to why they're putting dragons in my sci fi.

Because Game of Thrones is popular and Emilia Clarke has made the mother of dragons very popular, aka lovely pandering.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Fix posted:

I rather would like an explanation as to why they're putting dragons in my sci fi.
I'd rather hear why does this look so hard to dremel out if someone just wants a female Vortex.

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013

Indolent Bastard posted:

Because Game of Thrones is popular and Emilia Clarke has made the mother of dragons very popular, aka lovely pandering.

Pretty much my thoughts. I wish that the 'long haired cute girl' they make every other sculpt wasn't so difficult to convert to something else. Things like the wildcat or ninja models have a stupid ponytail which is extremely easy to cut off, thus forming a halfway sensible looking model.

Bob Smith
Jan 5, 2006
Well Then, What Shall We Start With?

Genghis Cohen posted:

Pretty much my thoughts. I wish that the 'long haired cute girl' they make every other sculpt wasn't so difficult to convert to something else. Things like the wildcat or ninja models have a stupid ponytail which is extremely easy to cut off, thus forming a halfway sensible looking model.

I left the ponytail off my Dasyu, because I knew it was going to keep falling off.

It's now decorating the base of one of my Zayins, modelled to look like it broke down a door and crushed the unfortunate Dasyu hiding behind it.

gobbledygoat
Jun 4, 2011

Ask me about
Steaming Early-onset Accessperger's



Free Logical Fallacies only in 2014!
Do not listen to a thing I say.
Yeah I wish every model was a buff white spacedude too.

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013
That's a bit unfair. I didn't say the game shouldn't have female models, I said it shouldn't have some/most of the female models be ridiculous pin-ups. That's a slight exaggeration, but the point is that while the male models ('buff white space dudes') are a juvenile power fantasy, too many of the female models are weirdly sexualised.

This discussion never ends well.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Finally gave my Marut a decent spin against JSA, and it performed admirably. Backed by an Agema, it just wasted anything that came close. It fried two Domarus in a single flamethrower burst when they tried to charge it, exploded a ninja hacker who decloaked to try and hack it but failed due to the high BTS, then won a FtF roll against another ninja, a sniper, who tried to plug it from across the board.

Sadly, Penthesilea made her debut in the same game and didn't get to do anything, as the opponent sacrificed his MSV2 remote to rush up and flank her with a spitfire. drat impetuous models!

susan
Jan 14, 2013
Hey all, random question: So my friend just got an Ariadna starter box (the Scottish one?) for this thing, and has talked me into getting a starter box as well. Neither of us have played Infinity before, though we have some extensive 40K/Warmachine backgrounds. I'm personally probably not going to get much more than a starter box, so what would be a good choice to have interesting matchups against the Ariadna Scottish starter kit?

LumberingTroll
Sep 9, 2007

Really it's not because
I don't like you...

susan posted:

I'm personally probably not going to get much more than a starter box,
haha famous last words.


susan posted:

so what would be a good choice to have interesting matchups against the Ariadna Scottish starter kit?

That is a sectoral starter, you will want to get a sectoral as well.

Sectorals are like sub-factions with special lists.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
I'd go with the standard answer of "go with what you like in models/fluff terms". You tell us which ones you like, we tell you what to buy to complement the box. Also, the starters aren't even remotely balanced points-wise.

Pierzak fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Nov 14, 2013

Chance II
Aug 6, 2009

Would you like a
second chance?
I frankenstiened a Zoe and painted some zeros lately.





Also some helmeted moderators



and these two



seeing them up close like this makes me think I've gone blind. So messy.

And since she's coming out nicely, my Tohaa Diplomatic Delegate with a pistol donated from the female Kameel model.

Chance II fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Nov 16, 2013

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010



Konstantinos/Yasbir Dire Foes box civillian.

E: Spec Ops leaked.

Fusilier Bipandra MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W LI
Regular, Cube 4-4 13 12 11 13 2 -3 1
Doctor, Specialist Troop
Medikit

Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife 24/0.5

AVA Panoceania 1, Neoterra 1

NOTE 1: Bipandra can be part of a Fusilier Fireteam in any sectorial army that includes them (2+1, 3+1 or 4+1).
NOTE 2: This unit is a personality and does not follow the Spec-Ops campaign rules.




Keisotsu Yuriko Oda MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W LI
Regular, No Cube 4-4 14 12 11 13 1 -3 1
Engineer, Hyper-Dynamics L1, Minelayer, V: CourageSkill, skill, skill
Equipment, equipment

Combi rifle + E/Mitter, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, CCW 23/0
Combi Rifle, Panzerfaust, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, CCW 24/0

AVA Yu Jing 1, JSA 1

NOTE 1: Yuriko Oda can be part of a Keisotsu Butai Fireteam in the Japanese Sectorial Army (2+1, 3+1 or 4+1).
NOTE 2: This unit is a personality and does not follow the Spec-Ops campaign rules.




Volunteer Isobel McGregor MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W LI
Regular, No Cube 4-4 13 12 11 13 2 0 1
V: Courage
Defensive Hacking Device

Rifle, Flash Pulse, D-Charges, E/Mauler / ??, Knife 23/0.5
T2 Rifle, Flash Pulse, D-Charges, E/Mauler / ?? (different) 26/0.5

AVA Ariadna 1, Caledonia 1 (?)

NOTE 1: Isobel McGregor can be part of a Volunteer Fireteam in the Caledonian Highlander Army (2+1, 3+1 or 4+1).
NOTE 2: This unit is a personality and does not follow the Spec-Ops campaign rules.





Alguacil Lupe Balboa MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W LI
Regular, Cube 4-4 14 12 11 13 2 -3 1
CH: Mimetism, Specialist Troop, V: Dogged

Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Panzerfaust, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, CCW 23/0

AVA: Nomads 1, Corregidor 1

NOTE 1: Lupe Balboa can be part of an Alguacil Fireteam in the Corregidor Jurisdictional Command (2+1, 3+1 or 4+1).
NOTE 2: This unit is a personality and does not follow the Spec-Ops campaign rules.




Anyat MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W LI
Regular, Cube 4-4 16 12 12 13 1 -3 1
Morat, Climbing+, Specialist Troop

K1 Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, Smoke Grenades, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife 25/0

AVA: Combined Army 1, Morats 1

NOTE 1: Anyat can be part of a Morat Vanguard Fireteam in the Morat Aggression Force (2+1, 3+1 or 4+1).
NOTE 2: This unit is a personality and does not follow the Spec-Ops campaign rules.




Trasimedes MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W MI
Regular, Frenzy, Cube 2.0 4-2 19 12 13 13 3 0 1
Specialist Troop
ODD: Optical Disruptor, 360° Visor

(Infiltration) SMG, Nanopulser, Flash Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW 27/0
(Enomotarchos) SMG, LRL, Nanopulser, Flash Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW 29/0.5

AVA: ALEPH 1, Steel Phalanx 1

NOTE 1: Trasimedes (Enomotarchos variant only) can be part of a Thorakitai Fireteam in the Steel Phalanx (2+1 or 3+1).
NOTE 2: This unit is a personality and does not follow the Spec-Ops campaign rules.




Konstantinos MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W LI
Regular, Cube 4-4 16 12 12 13 2 0 1
CH: Mimetism, Specialist Troop, Religious Troop
Multispectral Visor L2

Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, CCW 29?/0
(Infiltration) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, CCW 34/0

AVA PanOceania 1, Military Orders 1

NOTE 1: Konstantinos (the non-Infiltration variant) can be part of an Order Sergeants Fireteam in the Military Orders (2+1, 3+1 or 4+1).
NOTE 2: This unit is a personality and does not follow the Spec-Ops campaign rules.




Yasbir MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W LI
Regular, Cube 4-4 22 12 13 14 1 -3 1
Martial Arts L3, Specialist Troop, Religious Troop

(Holoprojector L1) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Viral CCW, Knife 29?/0
(Infiltration, Holoprojector L2) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Viral CCW, Knife 35?/0

AVA: Haqqislam 1, Hassassins 1

NOTE 1: Yasbir with Holoprojector L1 can be part of a Muyib Fireteam in Hassassin Bahram (2+1, 3+1 or 4+1).
NOTE 2: This unit is a personality and does not follow the Spec-Ops campaign rules.




Hatail Aelis Keesan MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W LI
Regular, Cube 4-4 14 12 12 14 2 -3 1
Fireteam: Tohaa, Regeneration
Defensive Hacking Device, Sensor

Viral Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Flash Pulse, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife 35/0.5
MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser, Flash Pulse, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife 33/0.5

AVA: Tohaa 1

NOTE: This unit is a personality and does not follow the Spec-Ops campaign rules.




Hasht MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W LI
Seed-Embryo - - - - - 2 -3 1
Developed Shape 4-2 15 11 ? ? ? -3 1
Regular, Cube
Specialist Troop, V: No Wound Incapacitation
Nanoscreen

Spitfire / Pistol, Knife 35?/1.5

AVA: Combined Army 1, Shasvastii 1
NOTE 1: Hasht can also start deployed in the Developed Shape form.
NOTE 2: Hasht can be part of a Seed-Soldier Fireteam in Shasvastii Expeditionary Force (2+1, 3+1 or 4+1).
NOTE 3: This unit is a personality and does not follow the Spec-Ops campaign rules.




Anaconda MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS STR TAG
Regular, Cube 4-4 16 13 16 13 6 -6 2
V: Courage
ECM, Escape System(?)

Spitfire + Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / CCW 62/2

Anaconda Operator MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W LI
Regular, Cube 4-4 13 12 10 13 1 -3 1
V: Courage

Spitfire / Pistol, Knife

AVA: Mercs 1, Merovingia 1

NOTE: This unit consists of 1 Anaconda TAG and 1 Operator.




Fusilier Angus (Civilian) MOV CC BS PH WIP ARM BTS W LI
Irregular, Cube 4-4 13 12 10 12 1 0 1
Huh?

- / - -

AVA: PanOceania 1

Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Nov 18, 2013

S.W.O.R.D. Agent
Apr 30, 2012

Chance II posted:

Also some helmeted moderators

That is a really awesome conversion. Nicely done!

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


So we've got a 150pt starter pack tournament on Sunday that I'm helping run, I'm basically the spare member to play and it's a collaberative mission pack, so sort of vs neutral NPCs and I'm thinking of running this:

JURISDICTIONAL COMMAND OF CORREGIDOR
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GROUP 1 6 0 0

WILDCAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (19)
WILDCAT Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (19)
WILDCAT Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)
INTRUDER HMG, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 44)
HELLCAT Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (20)
HELLCAT Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (20)

3 SWC | 147 Points

Open with Army 4

Obvious weaknesses are obvious with it, but hey, I'm only playing if there is an odd number so whatever.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Not too bad. Having two drop troops means you'll be short on orders at first, but the link team counters that somewhat. Just beware of hidden deployment models murdering a Wildcat as the link comes up and breaking it for good.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


It works, the only downside is my Corregidor box' quality is shocking. The amount of clean up is retarded.
















Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
Well, the Pano/Haqq box is looking pretty good there. And none of them are as bad as I'd feared. Aside from the cheesecake peeves, I actually really like the Tohaa mini.

Corbeau fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Nov 22, 2013

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Corbeau posted:

Well, the Pano/Haqq box is looking pretty good there. And none of them are as bad as I'd feared. Aside from the cheesecake peeves, I actually really like the Tohaa mini.
She looks a bit off to me, I'm not sure why, it might be the flowy artichoke hair. I am growing more and more on the minis for the Tohaa though, the newer ones are fantastic.

Yesterdays event went well, we had an odd number of players so I played as the extra and had forgotten just how rude Intruders could be. I cannot wait for Lupe Balboa, smoke + Intruders is going be to evil incarnate.

Feeple
Jul 17, 2004

My favorite part of this hobby is the rules arguments.
Help me, Infinigoons!

I have the nomads starter, Corregidor jurisdictional starter, a salamandzara, cassandra kusanagi, and a wildcat. Can I make a decent army out of any of this? I've played a few games so far, but never biult an army before. I love the wildcat model, any way I can use like 5 of 'em in a list?

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades

Feeple posted:

Can I make a decent army out of any of this?

Yes.

I mean you'll have to learn the quirks of whatever list you build, but there are very few lists that are just plain bad. Just don't short yourself on total orders and you'll be set to learn your minis.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


:siren:November Releases:siren:

Machaon, ALEPH




Ectros Regiment, Tohaa




Intruder, Nomads (best model)




Dire Foes #4, Flee or Die




Dire Foes #5, Viral Outbreak




Dat Intruder, holy cow.

Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Nov 27, 2013

S.W.O.R.D. Agent
Apr 30, 2012

Really liking the new Ectros, and that Intruder is bananas! The Machaon on the left side looks like he's about to pinch someone's nipple...

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx
That Intruder looks great, and Machaon looks awesome in that paint scheme.

Feeple
Jul 17, 2004

My favorite part of this hobby is the rules arguments.
Gonna need that Intruder.

Is an Iguana any good? He looks bad rear end!

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Feeple posted:

Gonna need that Intruder.

Is an Iguana any good? He looks bad rear end!
Mine has been on a rampage for the past two weeks, it's really good for how cheap it is to field. The pilot is a beast too when he ejects. It's no PanO TAG, but it's pretty brutal.

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

That Intruder. Holy smokes.

I am pleasantly surprised that Macheon is coming out. He's the last piece I needed for my list.

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 19 days!

Okay, I think I might just have to pull the trigger and bump Infinity up in my "game I need to start up next" list. They've always had gorgeous miniatures and these are no exception. :allears:

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dexefiend
Apr 25, 2003

THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!


I keep reading Indigo Brother as Eskimo Brother...

I am looking forward to the Ectros HMG, and the Intruder. I wish the Tohaa TAG was coming out, but since Angel is painting it now it will be soon!

I just ordered an Iguana! Ahhhhh this game has such amazing miniatures!

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