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bawfuls posted:Do injuries carry over from one Gauntlet round to the next? Also, are the player re-rolls for the Gauntlet are only at the beginning, or do they happen each round as well? No and yes, respectively.
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 Owner: tadashi Location: Brainerd, MN Home Grounds: Hot Dish Coliseum Founded: Super-League X Teams Used ????? Record Super-League XI: 57-106, Relegated in Round 1 of Gauntlet X Honors -None- Pursuant to Section 73, Article X of the Super-League Charter, tadashi is exercising his right to filibuster his team's relegation from the Super-League: Which brings us to the Crisis itself, a story designed to both celebrate 50 years of DC Comics and to revitalize the continuity by streamlining it.1 And what better way to accomplish that by creating the most complex crossover event to that date? The idea behind Crisis, at its most general is "What if we had a story with every loving character DC Comics has the rights to?" Which, if we're being honest, is one of those things that's more interesting in theory than in practice. Leading up to the first issue of Crisis, in late 1984 and early 1985, hints were dropped that big changes were coming. Brief interludes where a mysterious character named "The Monitor" and his assistant, Lyla, were placed in dozens of comics from that period. Occasionally, they would involve the Monitor giving some villains some new technology so that he could get a better measure of a hero's power. Other times, he'd just make some vague pronouncement and move on:  When will Batman open his heart to the Monitor?  Crisis on Infinite Earths #1 (of 12) We start at the beginning of time! The big bang happens, and an infinite number of universes are spawned, sadly, there "should have been one." Present day! Pariah, though we don’t know his name yet, is watching an entire universe being erased by anti-matter, and is understandably disturbed by it, especially since this is far from the first universe he’s seen destroyed this way. He tries to save some people from the oncoming wall of non-existence, but fails, and is wrenched to another doomed universe. Fortunately, it's not a very good universe. This would be Earth-3, home of the villainous Crime Syndicate of Amerika, evil versions of the Justice League of America, and a place where evil always triumphs over good, and evil Lincoln shot President James Wilkes Booth.2 Turns out they can't beat a giant wall of anti-matter, and all get killed. Alexander Luthor, who is the evil-universe version of Lex Luthor and thus is a super-hero, is the last man standing, and realizing that his universe is hosed, decides to go home and wait it out. There, he finds his wife, alternate Lois Lane, holding their infant son, Alexander, Jr., and Luthor has one last idea....blast the kid into a universe that isn't being erased. Pariah, meanwhile, is bugging the last two remaining members of the CSA, Ultraman and Power Ring, who accuse him of destroying their universe, which Pariah denies, saying he “can do nothing more than cry”, and then starts crying. Ultraman motivated by Pariah's counter-example, decides he’s going to face the anti-matter wall head-on in one last blaze of glory…and is immediately annihilated, with the rest of universe shortly thereafter following him. But Alex, Jr. gets blasted into Earth-1, DC's main universe, so it's not a total loss. On Monitor’s satellite, the man himself has decided that after months of just sitting around, it’s time to do...something. He orders Lyla, henceforth called Harbinger, to use her powers to split into many pieces in order to summon the heroes and villains he has specifically chosen for his plan. She uses her power to split into dozens of copies to venture through time and space to get the team, which she does, though one of her copies gets possessed by a shadow demon on the way.3 Monitor, meanwhile is worried, because, while Harbinger is recruiting his team, another universe has been taken out, killing five heroes that he had intended to use for his team. He’ll now need to find replacements. He also reflects on Lyla, who he raised by himself after finding her orphaned at sea. He muses that it’s really a shame that she’s going to kill him one of these days. Yeah, I'd bet. The team assembles in Monitor's satellite headquarters and immediately starts bickering. Suddenly, the team gets attacked by a bunch of shadow monsters that quickly overwhelm them. Not even Cyborg’s attack of “a million decibels of white sound” seems to work. Kind of amazing that a man who is half-machine wouldn't know that measuring in decibels is a logarithmic function, and that is literally impossible. Eventually, by teaming up, the heroes and villains are able to drive back the shadows. They wonder what the hell just happened, and the Monitor explains that he foresaw that something like this might happen. He then introduces himself and notes that everyone’s “universes are about to die!” Well, except for the ones that already bought it, I guess. To be continued!  It’s the dawn of the mankind and Anthro, the first man on Earth, is herding some woolly mammoths because that is what you did back then. He also hangs out his tribe of cro-magnons when he suddenly sees an image of a futuristic city in the distance, which disappears as suddenly as it comes. In the 30th century, it’s up to the Legionnaires to deal with the stampeding mammoths who crossed over that time portal, which they do, but then the mammoths vanish from their time period. Brainiac 5 looks at some data a realizes that this incident was caused by a wave of anti-matter headed towards Earth, and that might be a slight problem. Present day! Joker kills a rich guy to steal the copyrights to some old silent movie comedies. Batman bursts in through the window too late to save anyone, but, hey, the important thing is that he tried! He and Joker square off, but are interrupted when a degenerating Barry Allen, the Flash of Earth-1 appears, begging for help and claiming that the world is dying, and then disintegrates before Batman and the Joker's eyes, who are both suitably disturbed by the display. Monitor’s satellite! The Monitor explains that every universe is getting destroyed one-by-one and Earth-3 was just the latest to go. He also tells the assembled group of superbeings that nature going crazy is the first sign of the anti-matter wave coming to annihilate everything in a universe. The heroes are wary because they know that Monitor has spent the last few months selling weapons to their enemies, and the villains are upset because Monitor’s weapons never seemed to work right. They bicker again, but Earth-2 Superman calms them all down. Monitor explains that every time a universe gets destroyed that he gets weaker and his enemy grows stronger. But he’s got a plan to buy more time. He has planted five devices in different times and on two different Earths (Earth-1 and Earth-2) that can stop the anti-matter, but Monitor’s enemy knows this, so he needs the heroes and villains he’s gathered to guard the devices until he can activate them. The group agrees to go along with the plan, and Harbinger sends them on their way, but not before inner monologuing that because one of copies was infected by a shadow last issue, she is forced to secretly report all of this to the Monitor’s enemy. On Oa, the Guardians of the Universe realize just how bad the anti-matter wave situation is, and decide to convene the entire Green Lantern Corps to deal with it. Or they would, but a voice that comes out of their main power battery taunts that the Guardians will not be allowed to interfere shortly before causing the battery to explode. Bummer. Earth-1 Present! Batman and Superman talk about Barry’s ominous appearance, and then Pariah briefly appears to confirm the report that their world is dying. They both decide to see where this is all going before making any judgments. Meanwhile, it's the future and Kamandi, the Last Boy on Earth, is running from the evil furries who have conquered the 28th Century.4 Kamandi climbs up one of Monitor’s devices, which are all giant, mechanical towers. He slips and falls, but is caught by Earth-2 Superman, who is there to guard this tower along with Dawnstar and King Solovar. The shadows mount an attack on the tower, but are beaten back easily. Harbinger watches them from a distance, and she is possessed by the shadow, and claims that Monitor’s plans are doomed to failure. So noted. Another copy of Harbinger is waiting in Monitor’s satellite, and he asks her to bring child Alexander Luthor from Earth-3 to him. She goes to find him, and realizes that he’s already grown into a young child after only a few hours. In Atlantis, an Atlantis, at any rate, Arion, Obsidian and the Psycho Pirate find their tower planted in the middle of Atlantis. Arion and Obsidian meet with Arion's supporting cast to explain what's going on. Nearby, Psycho Pirate is sitting alone when Pariah shows up ready to do his whole spiel. Psycho Pirate, seeing that Pariah needs some cheering up, uses his powers to force Pariah to burst out laughing. This earns him a shot of magical energy to the back from Arion. Psycho Pirate then gets raptured away by an evil disembodied voice, who asks Psycho Pirate to join him. Psycho Pirate decides to attack the voice instead, which proves less-than-wise as the voice erases Psycho Pirate's face in response. The Pirate immediately agrees to join the voice, realizing he'd be hosed otherwise. On Monitor’s Satellite of Monitoring, Monitor discusses the loss of Psycho Pirate with Harbinger, apparently he was a key part of Monitor's overly complicated plan to save the universes, and so he’ll need to tweak his plan, bellowing, “Lyla, my dear, get me the file of the new Dr. Light! It’s time for me to create her!” Yes, because what this story needed was more characters. Back in Atlantis, Arion and Obsidian are still talking to Pariah, who whines about his fate, and tells the heroes that everyone's gonna die. And then the anti-matter wall o' doom appears. The Big M, meanwhile is thinking about his plan so more, and realizes that his still-unnamed enemy is moving faster than predicted and, at this rate, Monitor is going to be murdered well ahead of schedule, and that's a bad thing. The evil voice that abducted Psycho Pirate earlier, now talks to Harbinger and orders her to carry out his plans. If we know that Monitor is going to be murdered, and we know who's going to do it (Harbinger), and we know why (Because Monitor's enemy wants to blow up the universes, and killing Monitor would help facilitate that), is this even foreshadowing at this point? TO BE CONTINUED!  On Monitor’s Satellite of Gooooooooood Times, Monitor is examining the now-teenaged Alexander Luthor, who, Monitor claims, contains both positive and negative matter, and is therefore the key to this crisis...somehow. Harbinger asks if she can help Monitor and gets ignored, which she attributes to Monitor knowing that she now is in the control of Monitor’s arch-enemy. She flies off to speak with said enemy, who is still depicted in silhouette. The Psycho Pirate is also there, and it's time for a evil status meeting. The enemy tells Harbinger that she might as well kill Alexander Luthor too, for safety’s sake. She flies off to prepare to do just that, and Psycho Pirate asks why he can’t just use his powers to force her to overcome her inhibitions and do it immediately. The enemy gives a vague non-answer that boils down to “because that’s not dramatic enough, fuckface.” The future of Earth-1! The Flash is discussing about how he’s lived in the future now for a while, which is news to anyone reading this comic, as it has a footnote to Flash #350…which would not come out for a few months yet. Whoops. At any rate, the future is falling apart, and a wave of anti-matter is coming towards him. Flash decides to vibrate himself out of this mess and disappears. Present Day Earth-1! The Outsiders and Titans have pooled their B-Listers into one B+-Team! Kole is helping people with…wait, who the gently caress is Kole, anyway?5 They see the anti-matter wave a-coming, and earthquakes are rattling the city they’re in, as they try to protect civilians. Batman and Superman show up to help out, but they realize that it’s a losing battle. The Flash, having used his powers to teleport from the future, arrives with a warning, but is surrounded by an ominous field of energy. Batman, who saw the Flash graphically disintegrate last issue, is determined to free him, but Jericho6, sensing danger, tackles him, and everyone watches helplessly as the Flash is transported away against his will. Out in deep space, Brainiac realizes that this whole anti-matter thing can’t be good for him, and decides that only Lex Luthor can help him now, and so flies off to Earth to find Luthor. 1944, Markovia, Earth-1! Another one of Monitor’s towers looms above a battlefield. For the sake of economy, all of DC’s War Comics characters are already there. Sgt. Rock! The Haunted Tank! Some other guys that no one born after 1960 ever heard of! Geo-Force, Blue Beetle and Dr. Polaris are the super-beings assigned to guard this tower. The Haunted Tank, which is haunted by the spirit of Jeb Stuart, Confederate General, warns its descendant, who is also its driver, that “The world is filled with winners and losers, ofttimes, even losers win. This day, however, shall losers lose and never be seen again.” The Losers, a band of DC war heroes, then all get killed by the same shadows that have been trying to destroy the towers for two issues now. Thus Jeb Stuart's prophecy is fulfilled. That was...pointless. Blue Beetle is also fighting the shadows, and he’s getting his rear end handed to him.7 He tries to get the magical scarab that the first Blue Beetle gave him to turn on, and give him super-powers, but it doesn’t. The Monitor, having seen enough, cuts bait and sends Blue Beetle back to his home universe in shame, thus setting the stage for twenty years of Blue Beetle sucking at just about everything. The Great Disaster! Solovar, king of Gorilla City, has been wounded in the last battle against the shadows attacking that era’s Monitor Tower. Monitor decides he might as well send Solovar back to his home time as well, which causes Kamandi, the Last Boy on Earth to freak out, because he thought he had made a friend. 1873! All of DC’s Western heroes are in the same town! Batlash! Nighthawk! Johnny Thunder! Scalphunter! And the only one of them that’s had an ongoing series in the last twenty years, Jonah Hex! They’ve found another tower, which the Monitor has sent Cyborg, Green Lantern (John Stewart), Firebrand and Psimon to guard. The shadows immediately attack, and Cyborg goes back to his patented “Million Decibels of White Sound!” I’m going to assume by “White Sound”, he means The Smiths. But it all goes wrong. Green Lantern’s ring shorts out in the middle of the fight, the mine they’re all standing in starts to collapse, and the anti-matter wave ices Nighthawk. In the 30th century, things are going no better as the Legion of Super-Heroes is powerless to stop the anti-matter wave. However, to keep things symmetrical, the Legion will have to ante up a character to get killed by the anti-matter and the writers have selected….Kid Psycho, a rarely seen member of the Legion’s reserves! He will be missed by Legion obsessives. In his satellite, the Monitor is noting that his plan is not working perfectly, and that he’ll have to move on to the next phase sooner than expected, but before he can do that, Harbinger shows up and tells him that “It is time for you to die!” About loving time. To be continued!  Present day Earth-1! Supergirl and Batgirl meet and watch the anti-matter wave in the distance. Batgirl feels pretty useless in the face of total oblivion while Supergirl is confident things will work out and saves a plane full of passengers. Steve Dayton’s house! You remember Steve Dayton, right? He's Mento! And uh...you know, don't worry about it. Steve Dayton and John Constantine have a meeting of their own. John Constantine is smugly confident while Steve Dayton, as a C-Lister, knows that there’s a good chance he’s only here to be cannon fodder. Which he will, just not in the Crisis proper. Earth-4! Yes, another loving Earth! Pariah watches another universe getting erased! Fortunately, it’s not an Earth with any established characters, so who really gives a poo poo. Lord Volt and Liana, two characters who had never appeared before and would never appear again, get disintegrated, but Pariah is able to save Lady Quark, who becomes the sole surviving member of Earth-4 as the rest of the universe gets erased.8 Monitor’s Satellite of Love! Monitor decides it’s finally time to create the new Dr. Light, so shoots a beam into the sun of the Vegan system, which causes the star to shoot off some sort of flare of its own, which strikes Kiriyo Hoshi, a Japanese scientist, whose one recognizable bit of characterization is having a barely restrained rage to every person she meets. The beam of light transform her into Dr. Light, and there you go. Monitor then hypes up Dr. Light some and...hold on a loving second! The last issue ended with Harbinger showing up to blast Monitor to death? Shouldn't we get that resolved? It turns out that Harbinger is watching Monitor, and thinking of how badly she wants to kill him, while Alexander Luthor is watching her, and noting that her killing Monitor is just part of Monitor’s larger plan. Of loving course it is. Well, if the Monitor doesn't give a poo poo about being murdered, I guess I don't really care either. The shadowy enemy of the Monitor, meanwhile, has decided that his crew of Psycho Pirate and bunch of evil shadows isn’t really good enough, so he captures Red Tornado, and explains that Red Tornado is part of his plan to destroy a universe. Not a good part, mind you. Earth-2 in Arthurian Times! Firestorm and Killer Frost are protecting one of Monitor’s towers while Vandal Savage watches them through a window in his castle and wonders what they hell they are all about. Firestorm and Frost meet with the Shining Knight, but he doesn’t recognize Firestorm, as this version of the Knight is native to this time period, and so has not met Firestorm yet. The shadows start attacking, and Vandal Savage is concerned with how this will impact his plans for world domination. Just then, all of the shadows coalesce into one giant shadow, a scene that repeats itself at the other towers throughout time and space as well. At the tower located in present-day Earth-1, the Outsiders and Titans decide that the tower is the cause of the giant shadow and try to destroy it. Dr. Light appears and tells them that they don’t understand, but she doesn’t speak English, so the heroes can’t understand what she’s saying, leading to a brief fight where Dr. Light shows off her powers. Katana then reminds everyone that she can speak Japanese, and that they don’t really need to fight Dr. Light. Superman, who speaks every language, literally, asks Dr. Light what this is all about, and she responds, “Cannot any of you think, man? I tell you, this world is populated by morons!” Yeah, I mean, what's so hard to understand about an evil entity seeking to destroy every universe through use of giant waves of anti-matter and, stymied by the giant towers constructed by his rival to thwart said plans, creating giant shadow demons to destroy the towers? Monitor’s Satellite of Deep Thoughts! Monitor broods and then summons Pariah to him, and tells Pariah that he wasn’t actually cursed to wander from dying universe to dying universe, that was all Monitor’s doing. Monitor then explains that the towers on Earth-1 and Earth-2 are supposed to halt the progress of the anti-matter, but they aren’t doing very well. But, the towers have another purpose, to bring Earth-1 and Earth-2 together, and thus strengthen the resulting merged universe. Monitor then reveals that each time a universe gets destroyed, he gets weaker, and then asks Pariah to promise not “to harm her” until all of this is resolved. Pariah is confused until Harbinger springs from behind Monitor, which apparently took her an entire issue to do, and blasts him to death. And then, Earth-2 and Earth-1 are consumed by the anti-matter, and everything fades to white. To be continued!  The Monitor’s enemy is not happy. He blew up Earth-1 and Earth-2 with anti-matter, but hasn't received the normal energy boost from having done so. But the enemy has some bold new plans to help him fix that. He's captured the Flash, and he's rebuilding Red Tornado into a weapon. And hey, at least he finally killed that loving Monitor. On Monitor’s Satellite of Satellation, Pariah mourns the Monitor, as does Harbinger, who is now back in her Lyla form. A recording from Monitor then begins playing, and it's revealed that this was all part of Monitor's master plan. Of course. It seems that, for the next phase of the Monitor's plan, he needed a big source of energy to power it, and the only one he had on short notice was himself, and the only way to access that power was for Harbinger to murder him. UH, sure. Anyway, by dying, the Monitor somehow created a netherverse where Earth-1 and Earth-2 could be safe for the moment. Unfortunately, because he had to move so quickly, the process didn’t work perfectly. First, “all time has become one”, meaning that temporal anomalies are now ravaging the two universes. Second, he couldn’t get his towers to work quite right, so the vibrational energy that kept the universes separated in the normal universe is gradually slowing down in the netherverse, causing the two universes to draw ever closer to each other and, when they finally occupy the same space completely, this will cause them to destroy each other. Alexander Luthor, now fully grown, explains that the Monitor left him a tape with further instructions but, before they do that, they give Monitor a burial in space. The enemy realizes just what happened and is furious, but he figures that he's already blown up a million billion universes already, so this is more of an inconvenience than anything else. He then explains the Psycho Pirate that there are only three universe left in normal space, and he's going to send the Pirate ahead to distract the heroes of those worlds with his powers while the enemy gets to work destroying them. But it's not quite time for that just yet, so he lets the Pirate torture the captive Flash for a while instead. Earth-1! All time is happening at once, and this is causing a few problems, what with T-Rexes roaming the streets and all. Alexander Luthor, Monitor and Pariah summon all of the heroes and villains of Earths-1 and 2, and explain the basics of the situation. Summary: Everything is awful and poo poo is only going to get worse. The new Dr. Light is still perpetually angry about everything, and seems about five seconds away from trying to kill everyone out of spite. Alexander Luthor explains that the reason for the Crisis. At the Big Bang, what should have been a single universe was split into an infinite number of universes instead, and that has somehow made each individual universe weaker, which is how Monitor's enemy was able to blow almost all of them up. The Monitor's ultimate plan was to merge the worlds together into a single universe, which would be able to resist the enemy's forces. But there's not a ton they can do about that right now, as they need to get a handle on the massive temporal distortions on their planets like... Cavemen in Wayne Manor! A T-Rex in Soviet Russia! Los Dos Superman take out a sabretooth tiger! Meanwhile the enemy is still slowly moving along with his plans, and begins transforming Red Tornado, a change that he promises will be irrevocable, and that never again shall the old emobot version of Red Tornado roam the Earth again! Monitor's enemy is a loving liar. More cosmic hijinks! Earth-2 parents see the Earth-1 version of their dead daughter. The Legion looks out into the Earth-2 reality where the Legion of Super-heroes doesn’t exist! And, just then, both Earths are attacked by a giant whirling lightning storm of unknown origin, and Wildcat, a B-Lister from Earth-2, gets his legs shattered by an errant bolt of lightning. I'm not quite sure that's how lightning works. The heroes pool their resources to stop it, and...easily succeed as the inert body of Red Tornado falls back down to Earth. Well, that was disappointing. The heroes, knowing that this is only the beginning, offer to help Alexander Luthor, who then tells them that the next step is saving the last three Earths, so that they have more power to fight Monitor’s enemy. Dr. Light doesn’t want to be part of the mission, because she hates everyone so loving much. Monitor’s enemy then starts destroying Monitor’s satellite and the Flash, captive in the enemy’s base, demands that the enemy show his real face which he does.  Yes, he's the evil universe version of the Monitor! Who will henceforth be called the Anti-Monitor for the sake of not making things any more complicated than they already are. Earth-X, where World War II continued on into the ‘70s! The Freedom Fighters, the heroes of this planet, see the white wave of anti-matter coming and have no idea what to do, but swear to fight to the end. To be continued!  In his base, the Anti-Monitor explains that he really does hate Psycho Pirate, but he doesn’t have time to find a replacement, and then uses his powers to boost the Pirate’s emotional-control powers, so he can take control of the three worlds where the next phase of this war is going to be fought. Monitor’s Satellite of Cosmic Funk! It’s still exploding, and Harbinger uses the last of her powers to send the heroes to the other three worlds that need to be saved before the entire satellite blows up for good. On Earth-2, The Golden Age Atom carries Wildcat to his apartment, since the man’s legs were crippled last issue. Atom explains that even though this is the end of Wildcat’s superheroic career, he still appreciated everything the man has done for him. I'm sure that will make Wildcat feel a ton better. Outside the window, Yolanda Montez promises to carry on Wildcat’s legacy. Good for her! Back to Earth-1! Luthor is caught in some sort of vortex that he got trapped in at the end of Superman #413, which wouldn't be published until two months after this comic hit newsstands. Exactly editorial coordination there. Anyway, Luthor gets beamed up by Brainiac, and he offers Luthor a chance to team up and rule the universe! Despite the fact that their last 80 teamups ended with them getting the crap kicked out of them by Superman. On Earth-X, a group of heroes from Earth-1 and Earth-2 arrives to see the ghostly image of Harbinger reflected in the anti-matter wave, and that every person in the universe has been driven insane by Psycho Pirate. Things are going similarly poorly on Earth-4, home of the Charlton Comics characters, as well as Earth-S, home of the Fawcett Comics characters. Meanwhile, time and space are still hosed back on Earth-1 as Arion’s Atlantis from 45,000 years ago is floating on the surface in the present day, while Aquaman’s Atlantis has been shunted to the future. This frustrates Aquaman because he really wanted to see if he and his estranged wife could reconcile because Aquaman keeps poo poo in perspective. I mean, what's the point of the universe getting saved if Aquaman can't save his marriage? Also, Black Manta and Ocean Master, Aquaman villains, get teleported away. Earth-X, Steel10 yells “Steel’s had it up to here!” Because Steel is the sort of guy who speaks about himself in the third person. Uncle Sam, the greatest hero of Earth-X, decides to punch him in the face for being a dick, but Steel just absorbs the blow, breaking Sam’s fist in the process. Harbinger finally is ready to act, and drags Earths X, 4 and S into the netherverse, where they too start to merge with Earths 1 and 2. Lyla, drained of her Harbinger powers, then meets Alexander Luthor on an asteroid overlooking the scene, and discuss how this has strengthened their forces, but hasn’t solved the merging problem. And then all of the villains are mysteriously teleported away. Also, Yolanda Montez debuts as the new Wildcat and....that’s the cliffhanger? Really? This book’s pacing is all sorts of screwed up. To be continued! Tragically, this is not the end of tadashi's revenge filibuster. 1Marv Wolfman didn't really believe that the smashing all of the different Earths of the DC-universe into one world would make things that much simpler, he just figured that the pretense of simplification might draw Marvel Comics fans over to DC, as the knock on DC at the time is that it's too loving complicated. As of 2013, that is STILL the knock of DC Comics, so you can see how well that worked. 2No, really. 3The members of Monitor's Heroic Team of Backbenchers are: -Solivar, King of Gorilla City, a secret city of intelligent apes! -Dawnstar, who is a Native American with wings and super-tracking powers, and is also from the 30th century. -Firebrand, a fire-based heroine from 1940s Earth-2. -The second Blue Beetle, Ted Kord, who is basically a Batman knockoff from Charlton Comics, who, for purpose of continuity, is from Earth-6. -Arion, a wizard from the golden age of Atlantis, 45,000 years ago on Earth-1 -Firestorm, a solid midcard hero from Earth-1 with vague nuclear powers -Psycho Pirate, a villain who uses the "Medusa Mask" to manipulate emotions, he's from the present day Earth-2 -Killer Frost, one of Firestorm's villains -Psimon, a Titans villain with psychic powers -Geo-Force, second-in-command of the Outsiders, and Crown Prince of Markovia. -Cyborg, who is a cyborg -Green Lantern, more specifically, John Stewart, you know, the one from the Justice League cartoon. -Dr. Polaris, an old Green Lantern villain with magnetic powers. (His doctorate was in French Literature) -Earth-2 Superman, who is basically the same as normal Superman except older and weaker -Obsidian, from Earth-2, and possessing shadow powers and an ambiguous sexuality because, for literally twenty years, the writers were reasonably sure the character was gay, but were kind of afraid to pull the trigger and have him come out. 4The eagle-eyed among you might have noticed that the Legion of Super-Heroes are from the 30th century, where there are both plenty of humans and no evil furries, and might be wondering, if there is only one human left on Earth, how one led to the other, and the answer is....gently caress you, that's why. 5Like most comics crossovers, a whole bunch of characters were killed off to heighten the drama. For their part, the Titans franchise, also written by Marv Wolfman, contributed Kole as their sacrificial lamb. Who was Kole? She was a non-character that Wolfman created just so he wouldn't have to kill off any character he gave a poo poo about. I feel compelled to point out that Kole's origin story was that her parents were mad scientists who assumed nuclear annihilation was imminent, so gave Kole crystal powers thinking that might be the answer before realizing how crazy that seemed. So they turned themselves into giant insects instead. 6Not Chris Jericho, sadly, but instead a rather regrettable Titans character with a similar name. 7Blue Beetle getting his rear end handed to him would sound become a recurring motif of the post-Crisis DC Universe. 8Every single character that Marv Wolfman introduced in the Crisis sucked. It's a fact. Lady Quark in particular was problematic because her origin story was her universe getting blown up. Except, after the Crisis was over, her universe was retroactively erased from even having existed meaning that her post-Crisis origin story was confusing to say the least. 9There is no footnote nine. 10Not the character that Shaq would play in a movie. No, the '80s version of Steel was cyborg rear end in a top hat of middling skills. This should explain everything: 
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No and each round respectively. Postseason Pick 'em Continues: Gauntlet, Round 2! Pick TWO! Alma Purifiers Lombard St. Gumshoes
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Nov 2, 2013 02:37
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Postseason Pick 'em Continues: Gauntlet, Round 2! Pick TWO! Alma Purifiers Cosmobats Lombard St. Gumshoes Ted Sox
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Nov 2, 2013 02:41
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Lombard St. Gumshoes Ted Sox
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Nov 2, 2013 02:54
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Pick 'em! Alma Purifiers Ted Sox
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Nov 2, 2013 02:58
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Purifiers and Gumshoes
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 Guys it's time to prove our merit by crushing the fools that climbed up from the depth of the gauntlet and getting out of this open grave ourselves. Your bodies may have betrayed you in the regular season but what are the odds of that happening twice and in 40 games only? Here are the guys I trust with my survival... Stadium: The Graveyard (modelled after Turner Field) 25-Man roster 1B: Jason Giambi (2003 Yankees, giambja01)(only plays against RHP) 2B: Eddie Collins (1923 White Sox, collied01), Alfonso Soriano (2003 Yankees, soriaal01)[plays DH against LHP) 3B: Ron Santo (1969 Cubs, Dispersal Draft XI Pick #1, santoro01), Robin Ventura (2003 Yankees, venturo01) C: Ted Simmons (1975 Cardinals, simmote01),Jorge Posada (2003 Yankees, posadjo01) SS: Derek Jeter (2003 Yankees, jeterde01) LF: Gary Sheffield (1995 Marlins, sheffga01) RF: Reggie Smith (1975 Cardinals, smithre06), Carlos Beltran (2008 Mets, Dispersal Draft XI Pick #4, beltrca01) CF: Kirby Puckett (1984 Twins, puckeki01) DH: Stan Musial (1959 Cardinals, Dispersal Draft XI Pick #3, musiast01)[plays 1B against LHP), Bernie Williams (2003 Yankees, willibe02) 1#SP: Roger Clemens (2003 Yankees, clemero02) 2#SP: Rick Reuschel (1976 Cubs, Dispersal Draft XI pick #2, reuscri01) 3#SP: Mike Mussina (2003 Yankees, mussimi01) 4#SP: Frank Viola (1984 Twins, violafr01) 5#SP: Steve Carlton (1981 Phillies, carltst01) Closer:Mariano Riviera (2003 Yankees, riverma01) Setup:Robb Nen (1995 Marlins, nenro01) Short Relief:Alejandro Pena (1995 Marlins, penaal01) Short Relief:Al Hrabosky (1975 Cardinals, hraboal01) Middle Relief:Ron Reed (1975 Cardinals, reedro01) Long Relief: Bob Gibson (1975 Cardinals, gibsobo01) Minors Harry Hooper (1923 White Sox, hoopeha01) Chris Speier (1984 Twins, speiech01) Ray Schalk (1923 White Sox, schalra01) Armando Benitez (2003 Yankees, benitar01) Red Faber (1923 White Sox, faberre01) Pete Rose (1981 Phillies, rosepe01) Lineup against RHP #1 Eddie Collins #2 Stan Musial #3 Reggie Smith #4 Jason Giambi #5 Gary Sheffield #6 Ron Santo #7 Ted Simmons #8 Kirby Puckett #9 Derek Jeter against LHP #1 Eddie Collins #2 Stan Musial #3 Reggie Smith #4 Gary Sheffield #5 Alfonso Soriano #6 Ron Santo #7 Ted Simmons #8 Kirby Puckett #9 Derek Jeter Strategy Hit and Run: -2 Sacrifice Bunt: -2 Squeeze Play: -2 Trying for extra bases: 0 Stealing Bases: 0 Aggressively Tagging Up: 0 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): +1 Giving Intentional Walks: -1 Pitching Around Good Hitters: 0 Bringing the Infield In: 0 Guarding the Lines: 0 Making Cutoff Throws: +1 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -2 Bringing in Pinch Runners: -2 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: +1 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -3 Letting pitchers pitch through trouble: +0 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: -1
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Idaho Potatoes Pick'em Purifiers and Gumshoes. edit:  [10:52] <SmasherDynamo> Hey, Bruzer, want a Super-League team?
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Nov 2, 2013 18:43
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purifiers and gumshoes
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We're baaaaaaack. Team Name: Brooklyn Bombers Icon:  Home stadium: New Yankee Stadium Feeders: 1903 New York Highlanders, 1925 New York Yankees, 1965 New York Yankees, 2010 New York Yankees C: 1965 Elston Howard 1B: 2010 Mark Teixeira 2B: 2010 Robinson Cano 3B: 2010 Alex Rodriguez SS: 2010 Derek Jeter LF: 1925 Babe Ruth CF: 1965 Mickey Mantle RF: 1925 Earle Combs DH: 1925 Lou Gehrig Bench: 2010 Jorge Posada, 2010 Brett Gardner, 2010 Curtis Granderson, 2010 Lance Berkman, 1965 Roger Maris SP1: 1903 Jack Chesbro SP2: 2010 CC Sabathia SP3: 1965 Mel Stottlemyre SP4: 2010 AJ Burnett SP5: 1925 Urban Shocker CL: 2010 Mariano Rivera SR: 2010 David Robertson SR: 2010 Joba Chamberlain SR: 2010 Boone Logan MR: 2010 Kerry Wood LR: 2010 Javier Vazquez Minors: 1965 Bobby Murcer, 2010 Phil Hughes, 2010 Andy Pettitte, 2010 Ivan Nova, 2010 Eduardo Nunez Lineup: 1. Derek Jeter 2. Mickey Mantle 3. Babe Ruth 4. Lou Gehrig 5. Alex Rodriguez 6. Robinson Cano 7. Earle Combs 8. Mark Teixeira 9. Elston Howard BrooklynBruiser fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Nov 2, 2013 |
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BrooklynBruiser posted:We're baaaaaaack. GVOLTT fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Nov 3, 2013 |
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See you guys next year with a team made up entirely of Blue Jays, Expos and Canada WBC teams!
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Wildcard Showdowns! Smasher League Wildcard Showdown  From the wastes of Kentucky come the Louisville Muggers, a franchise built on the strength of a single pun. But, behind their comical exterior lies a comical interior. Behind that comical interior, however, lies a nougaty core of mild talent. They have a mildly competent offense, albeit without Mark McGwire, they don't quite have the raw power to dominate the opposing pitcher, as well as a surprisingly good pitching staff. Sadly, the Muggers being the Muggers, they're going to put this game in the hands of an exhausted Jim Bunning who will be starting today's game. I'm sure that will work out just fine.  Over two years ago, I started the Super-League with 18 teams. A lot of things have changed since then, but the W's? They stay the W's. It's true that they've never made a Super-League Finals, but they've come close a number of times, and in the playoffs, anything can happen. After, don't you kind of want to see a team with Mark Bellhorn, Adam Dunn, Eri Yoshida and the corpse of Mark Grace win a championship?  Dusseldorf Memorial Coliseum South Bolton, Greater Manchester, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom, Earth Don May posted:
Box Score   Dynamo League Wildcard Showdown  They needed to win every single game in the last week of the regular season to qualify for the playoffs, and they did just that, winning the Heavyweight and Canadian championships in the process. The Cancun Tornados are ready to take their next step to their first-ever Super-League Championship. Their offense has been hit-or-miss, and one would think UltimoDragonQuest isn't super-jazzed to be sending out the right-handed Drysdale to face the DOUBLE-RUTH! But they have enough good players to make a deep playoff run.  The CERN Colliders have the power and majesty of the double-Ruth on their side. They don't, to be honest, have a lot else going for them, including having to send Whitey Ford out there as their starting pitcher, but for one game, two Babe Ruths might just be enough, especially with the Tornados starting the relatively homer-prone Don Drysdale. At least they have home-field advantage.  CERN! Moncton, NB, Union of Canadian and Quebecois Provinces (Earth-2) Don May posted:
Box Score   Pick 'em: Divisional Series! Pick the winner, number of games (best-of-five), and score of final game Burma Imperialists vs. Somali Pirates Cancun Tornados vs. Rockford Losers New World Symphony vs. Fukuoka Finger-Bangers South Bolton Eazy W's vs. Walney Rakers
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Pick 'em: Divisional Series! Pick the winner, number of games (best-of-five), and score of final game Burma Imperialists vs. Somali Pirates (Pirates in 4 Final score 5-3) Cancun Tornados vs. Rockford Losers (Losers in 3 Final score 7-3) New World Symphony vs. Fukuoka Finger-Bangers (Finger-Bangers in 5 Final score 9-7) South Bolton Eazy W's vs. Walney Rakers (Rakers in 4 Final score 8-4)
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Ah, now we get into the nitty-gritty of the playoffs. Pick 'em: Divisional Series! Pick the winner, number of games (best-of-five), and score of final game Somali Pirates, 4 games, 5-3 Rockford Losers, 4 games, 8-2 Fukuoka Finger-Bangers, 5 games, 7-3 South Bolton Eazy W's, 4 games, 5-4
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Welp! On the bright side I HAVE CAUGHT TRADE FEVER, if literally anyone has a 2B and/or OF better than who I have currently manning those spots I am absolutely down,
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Pick 'em: Divisional Series! Pick the winner, number of games (best-of-five), and score of final game Burma Imperialists vs. Somali Pirates 4 7-4 Cancun Tornados vs. Rockford Losers 5 6-5 New World Symphony vs. Fukuoka Finger-Bangers 4 3-1 South Bolton Eazy W's vs. Walney Rakers 5 9-6
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Somali Pirates in 5 (5-4) Rockford Losers in 3 (7-3) Fukuoka Finger-Bangers in 4 (2-0) South Bolton Eazy W's in 5 (3-2)
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Pick 'em: Divisional Series! Pick the winner, number of games (best-of-five), and score of final game Burma Imperialists in 4, 5-2 Rockford Losers in 5, 6-3 Fukuoka Finger-Bangers in 3, 4-0 South Bolton Eazy W's in 5, 2-1
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Pick 'em: Divisional Series! Pick the winner, number of games (best-of-five), and score of final game Pirates in 4 6-2 Losers in 3 7-5 Symphony in 5, 4-2 Easy W's in 5, 6-5
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Pick 'em: Divisional Series! Pick the winner, number of games (best-of-five), and score of final game Somali Pirates in 4 8-3 Rockford Losers in 5 7-4 Fukuoka Finger-Bangers in 3 5-1 Walney Rakers in 5 4-7
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Pick 'em: Divisional Series! Pick the winner, number of games (best-of-five), and score of final game Somali Pirates in 4 5-3 Rockford Losers in 5 6-4 Fukuoka Finger-Bangers in 4 6-5 South Bolton Eazy W's in 3 8-2
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 Owner: Dannomack Location: CANADA! Home Grounds: Skydome? Let's say Skydome. Founded: Super-League XI Teams Used Several Record SLXI: 61-101, 5th Place, Norris-Smythe Division, Relegated in Round 1 of Gauntlet X. Honors 1x Canadian Champions tadashi's filibuster continues...  On an asteroid, Alexander Luthor, Lyla and Pariah meet to discuss the situation. The five universes are safe for the moment, but they’re still merging and if they completely merge before they resolve the crisis, they’ll explode. Pariah then whines about his fate some more before Lyla declares that it’s time to explain the situation to the heroes. Yes, because more exposition is really what this series needed at this point. Earth-S! Captain Marvel is about to rough up Sivana and Ibbac when they get spirited away by Brainiac. The heroes from Earth-1 and 2 explain how they had all been manipulated by the Psycho Pirate, and Lyla asks for a representative from Earth-S to come to a meeting. Back on Earth-2, the new Wildcat is worried that the heroes of her world won’t accept her as Ted Grant’s replacement. Your universe is on verge of exploding! I'm pretty sure that this might not be the time to worry about that poo poo. She covertly watches Golden Age Atom talk about how sad it is that Ted Grant’s career is over, and how no one can replace him. The new Wildcat then stalks off to prove her worth. On that same asteroid as the beginning of the issue, the hero representatives have arrived. We’ve got: Earth-1: Superman (Modern) Earth-2: Superman (Golden Age) Earth-S: Captain Marvel Earth-X: Uncle Sam Earth-4: Blue Beetle Earth-6 (destroyed): Lady Quark And now it's time for X-Treme X-Position! First, Lady Quark discusses how her universe no longer exists and how she'd like some vengeance for that. Non one particularly cares about her or her superfluous universe. Lyla explains how this mess all started. 10 billion years ago, a Guardian of the Universe1 named Krona built a machine capable of observing the creation of the universe. In viewing the big bang, he saw a giant shadowy hand, and then his machine exploded. This, in turn, created the anti-matter universe as well as causing the regular universe to split into a multiverse. As punishment, the Guardians reduced Krona to disembodied energy, but that didn’t solve the problem. So they ended up creating the Green Lantern Corps, and some of them split off to become the Controllers. I hope you're taking notes, dudes. The Anti-Monitor was then born in the anti-matter universe, and the Monitor came into being as a sort of opposite and equal reaction. Anti-Monitor easily conquered the anti-matter universe, but was unsatisfied. He then sensed the presence of the Monitor, and they engaged in a million year long struggle that left them both comatose for 9 billion years. But then, one day, in a universe long since destroyed, Pariah set up a particularly poorly designed experiment to see the origins of the universe, which ended up causing a chain reaction that destroyed his entire home universe in a wave of anti-matter. This roused the Anti-Monitor, and made him stronger, which led the being to realize that by destroying each positive energy universe, he could incrementally grow stronger still. On the plus side, this also woke up Monitor, who sprung into action, using Pariah as a sort of annihilation lodestone to track his enemy’s movements, and preparing his plans to save the universes. Lady Quark then realizes that Pariah’s idiocy has killed infinity minus five universes, including her own, and decides to kill him right there, but Uncle Sam stops here, explaining that Pariah has suffered enough. Really? Dude killed about infinity billion people through carelessness and he's a total downer. This might be one of those cases where casual homicide is the solution. But there's no time for murder, because it’s finally time to assemble a strike team that will attack Anti-Monitor’s base, which is just kind of a giant stone fortress floating in the anti-matter universe. Anti-Monitor senses the attack is coming and orders Psycho Pirate to use his powers to take control of the heroes. Psycho Pirate informs the Anti-Monitor that his powers aren’t working, which earns him a slap across the face for his incompetence. Flying into the fortress, the heroes notice that, because of the difference in physical laws, their powers aren’t working quite right. Suddenly, statues embedded in the walls come to life and attack, and Golden Age Superman takes a shot to the face and starts bleeding, making him realize just how limited his invulnerability is in this place. The heroes eventually start to make some headway, but it’s slow going. Still, Earth-1 Superman, Supergirl and Dr. Light all make it through to the interior of the fortress. This gives Superman a chanceto try and hype up how Dr. Light really is an interesting character and fans shouldn’t dismiss her out of hand.2 She and Superman find a reactor that Anti-Monitor is using to force the Earths to merge, thus hastening their destruction, and the villain decides to finally attack them directly. He knocks around Superman, and Supergirl hears her cousin’s cries of agony, leading her to fly off to help him. Supergirl finds Anti-Monitor and starts whaling on him. This forces Anti-Monitor to back off a bit, as his physical form is now mainly destroyed. Supergirl, sensing an opportunity, orders Dr. Light to fly Superman out of there as she flies Anti-Monitor right into his own reactor, wrecking it. Dr. Light, worried about the whole scenario, manages to distract Supergirl just long enough for Anti-Monitor to take one last blast at her before escaping and gloating that he will be “triumphant at the dawn of time!” The fortress then starts coming apart, and Supergirl, mortally wounded3, says her final goodbyes. But hey, at least the Earths are no longer merging, so that’s something. They hold a memorial service for Supergirl in Chicago of all places, as that’s where her last solo series was set, and Batgirl gives a vague eulogy about helping people and whatever. Superman, depressed that his last remaining relative has now died, wistfully remembers his cousin before flying her body out to space. To be continued!  On the Anti-Monitor’s anti-ship! Psycho Pirate is complaining to Flash, who’s still chained up on the wall with some sort of goo, that the Anti-Monitor is going to kill him for his poor performance last issue. Anti-Monitor eavesdrop on the last bit of this monologue before showing off the new body he has built for himself. Still, he’s not overly concerned with Pirate’s complaints or suggestions of betrayal, instead merely noting that since he might need the Pirate in the future, Anti-Montiro isn't going to kill Psycho Pirate just yet. On Apokolips, Darkseid reveals that he’ll be sitting this crisis out, and will instead wait to attack whichever side survives, assuming they’ll be the weaker then, essentially calling dibs on the next crossover. Sporting of him. Oa! The Guardians are freed from the imprisoning effect Anti-Monitor has been using on them. The Green Lanterns ask what they should be doing, but the Guardians are too busy arguing amongst themselves to give any real orders. Every issue of this series can be summed as 15 pages of talking following by 7 pages of characters getting killed. Meanwhile, in the future, the Legion is discussing the situation. The Earths have stopped merged, but, because of the merging that’s already taken place, they still overlap in certain places. Also, Supergirl is dead, and that makes Brainiac 5 sad, though he tries to repress it. Although, come to think of it, she died 1000 years beforehand, and Brainiac probably would have already...gently caress it, I'm not unscrambling any time-traveling paradoxes. In the present, a group of heroes has decided to rebuild Red Tornado on the abandoned JLA satellite that is apparently habitable again, despite getting mainly destroyed in its last appearance. We’ve got Vixen, Martian Manhunter, Cyborg, Firestorm and Firehawk, midcard heroes all, as well as the villain T.O. Morrow, who built Tornado in the first place. Also, barbarian Atom! Yes, that’s right, this is in that period where, for reasons that baffle the mind and confuse the senses, DC thought that the best way to reinvent a hero who’s only power was shrinking was to turn him into a Conan knockoff. I guess it must have made sense at the time. Atom is inside the Tornado, and comments on how the science is beyond him, but Morrow is concerned, because the insides are different from what he built. Professor Stein, downer that he is, assumes this means that Red Tornado is beyond repair. In L.A., Blue Devil4 gets summoned by John Stewart to provide some more expertise. Up in space, Morrow decides to remove Tornado’s head, which triggers a huge explosion that causes Blue Devil and Morrow to fall through a portal as the rest of the heroes bail out. Oh, and Firehawk gets a new costume. Outstanding pacing. The entire universe is in danger? Let's spend five pages interacting with characters no one cares about! Somewhere else, Blue Devil ends up with the B-List Omega Men that dropped through a similar portal at the end of the last issue of Omega Men, and their space ship immediately disintegrates! To be continued in Blue Devil #18!5 In the Anti-Matter Universe, Anti-Monitor has decided that enough is enough, and is just building a giant anti-matter cannon to blow up the remaining universes. I'm glad someone is taking some initiative. The Psycho Pirate, feeling a bit better about his lot, goes to check on the Flash, who finally escapes and starts whaling on the Pirate, before forcing the Pirate to use his powers to trick the Thunderers, Anti-Monitor’s henchmen, into attacking Anti-Monitor. With the villain distracted, Flash finally lays Psycho Pirate out with a punch to the skull before entering the inner workings of the cannon. Flash sees that the core of the cannon is pure anti-matter, which…uh…isn’t this entire universe anti-matter? Anyway, Flash is going to need to think carefully about how to deal with this…nah, just kidding, the solution is apparently to run so fast that the energy turns inwards and causes the cannon to destroy itself. I guess it’s fitting that this version of the Flash, whose stories were filled with wonky science where running really fast can fix anything, goes out like this. He starts running, and starts to realize that he’s not getting out of this one alive, and starts mentally saying goodbye to his supporting cast. The cannon starts exploding or imploding, or whatever, and Flash starts bouncing through time as he starts to disintegrate, explaining his appearances earlier in the miniseries. And then he’s gone, leaving just his empty suit. Anti-Monitor does not take the news of this latest setback well, and starts gathering energy from his own universe, wiping out a million anti-matter worlds in the process, because he has an awesome new plan that involves loving around with time travel. Meanwhile, the Spectre impotently screams about the Flash's death, and the issues closes with some poetry: "Oh, why should the spirit of a mortal be proud? Like a fast-flittering meteor, a fast-flying cloud, A flash of the lightning, a break of wave, He passes from life to his rest in the grave." -William Know Wait...that's a terrible quote to use! That passage is about how ephemeral and ultimately meaningless life is, and how the things we do in life are ultimately without lasting consequence. Are you trying to imply that Flash's sacrifice was ultimately pointless, because in the coming issue, and going forward in general, every character is going to take the position that the Flash doing what he did here saved everyone! Admit it, Wolfman, you just picked this quote because it used the word "Flash" and talked about death.  Oa! A group of dissident Guardians who believe in pre-emptive strikes on evil give Guy Gardner a power ring! And then a bolt of flame immediately strikes the chamber, killing everyone except Guy and one of the Guardians. The last Guardian standing sends Guy off to get vengeance.6 On Brainiac’s satellite, Brainiac and Luthor are discussing with their army of villains, who they had teleported to the satellite over the past couple of issues, how this would be the perfect time to conquer the universe, or even more than one, time-permitting! Earth-2 Luthor tries to interrupt, and gets vaporized by Brainiac, who notes that they really only need one Luthor. And then we get a replay of the final scene from the last issue of Titans where Starfire, Jericho and Nightwing prepare to go to Tamaran, and the Tamaraneans start talking about how Starfire must not know the real reason for their journey, because Wolfman wrote that comic too, and he'd really, really, really appreciate if you bought it as well.7 In New York, the remaining Titans overlook a ‘warp zone’, where Mario has gone down a secret pipe to…wait, no, where the partial merging of the Earths has created a space where past, present, and future of multiple earths have converged into one spot. Donna’s worried because Terry, her awful husband, is trapped in there. Firehawk eventually shows up and she and Donna go off to look for him. In World War II, Sgt. Rock doesn’t give a poo poo about any of this! As well he shouldn't. Meanwhile, on Earths-4, S and X, with most of their good heroes occupied by the Crisis, the worlds are falling apart as the unified forces of the villains attack en masse. At the U.N. of Earth-1, Alexander Luthor, Harbinger and Pariah are being questioned, and they explain that they’re pretty sure that the Crisis is over, and that the partial merging of the Earths is probably safe. The delegates aren’t exactly thrilled by this explanation, and are probably even less so when Pariah feels another Earth dying and wigs out, only to be replaced by a projection of Brainiac who explains that he’s assembled a giant super-villain army, and has already conquered Earths 4, X and S…you know, the loser Earths. Luthor then pops up to explain that they already control three Earths, but they really want to conquer Earth-1 and 2, you know, the ones people care about, and threaten to blow up all five worlds unless they surrender. Alexander then notes on how this Luthor is just like his father…except evil. The heroes aren’t thrilled by the fact that they've hosed up this badly, and decide to break down the barriers between worlds to help out the conquered Earths, but can’t make it through. Fortunately, they’ve got another plan. Harbinger and Golden Age Flash go to see Wally West, Kid Flash, and get him to help with Plan B, which involves using the ol’ Cosmic Treadmill8, and break through the barrier. On Brainiac’s satellite, Luthor and Brainiac discuss this development. They knew something like this was bound to happen, but it’s acceptable, and, worse comes to worse, they’ll just blow up the Earths and find some other planets to rule. And so the heroes of Earth-1 and 2 take on the villains of five Earths. Luthor recognizes that the heroes are more cohesive and able to actually use teamwork, but he figures they’ll eventually win through sheer force of numbers. The Doom Patrol (the dismal one of that time-period featuring no characters of importance) fight over Earth-4, while, in a nearby sea, Chemo attacks Aqualad and Aquagirl9, killing the latter. I believe that is the very definition of an acceptable loss, and the heroes fail to free Earth-4. On Earth-S, the JLA faces some mid-card villains who have frozen over the planet, and Steel gets dragged through a portal by Warp, a villain no one has ever heard of.10 And the villains retain control here too. Finally, on Earth-X, some plant-based villains have caused the planet to become overgrown. But they’ve got to deal with the combined heroes of Earth-2 and the Outsiders. On the Satellite, Brainiac notes that they’ve reached a stalemate, and Luthor could care less, since he wouldn’t mind if all of the heroes and villains just killed each other, saving him the work. Brainiac then promptly explodes! Who could have done this? The Anti-Monitor? Some new threat? NO! It’s Psimon, a B-List Teen Titans villain! And that’s your cliffhanger! I guess it's hard to come up with enough ideas to fill 12 issues.  Psimon is menacing Luthor, having killed Brainiac, and declares that he likes Luthor’s plan to kill a whole bunch of super-humans in a giant hero-villain war, and that he’ll be taking over from here on out. Brainiac, who has transferred his consciousness to a new robot body, disagrees and blows off the top of Psimon’s head. On Earths-4, X, and S, the heroes continue to try and push back against the villains, and Aquagirl is still somehow the only dead hero, making this interuniversal war between all of the heroes and all of the villains somehow have a lower death toll than the U.S. invasion of Grenada. The heroes slowly gain the momentum, as they free the heroes captured by the villains, and the bad guys start to lose focus, even as Houngan, your perfunctory voodoo-powered villain, proudly proclaims they “will suffer the voodoo pain as only Houngan can give it.” Brainiac and Luthor lament that they had expected, if not a villain victory, then at least a better showing before Spectre arrives and demands everyone stop fighting because it's time to get the real plot back on the road. It turns out that Anti-Monitor is still alive and is going to kill them all if they don’t get their poo poo together. You see, the Anti-Monitor has fled to back before the Big Bang, and is intending to change history, as apparently that is the only point in time where such a change could be made. If he’s successful, it would retroactively erase the positive matter universe, and that would be rather bad for everyone. Somehow, though, they still have time to stop him, because that's just how time travel stories work. The villains decide to help out because it’s really hard to rule over a non-existent world. On Earth-1’s Death Valley, everyone gets together for the next phase of the plan, and the Superman of Earth-2 bids farewell to his wife, Earth-2 Lois Lane before flying off. Alexander Luthor watches them and thinks about stuff. Superboy Prime also shows up11, though no one seems to know exactly how the hell he got there, as his last appearance had him vanishing into nothingness at the end. Oh, and Uncle Sam gives a speech about ‘Life’ and ‘Liberty’, and how the Anti-Monitor is violating the 14th Amendment or something, and now Uncle Sam is going to take Anti-Monitor to the 7th Circuit Court of Pain! Spectre lays out the plan. One group will go back in time to confront the Anti-Monitor directly, while another group will try and stop Krona from looking back to the moment of creation, which has been allowing Anti-Monitor to directly affect the positive matter universe in the first place. In the time before time, literally, the heroes confront the Anti-Monitor, who has been waiting for them or not, it's hard to say, as they're all floating in a timeless void. They charge him en masse, but this has all been a ruse to drain them of their powers and refill his own dwindling reserves. Restored to power, he prepares to destroy the universe at the moment that Krona’s window the past opens. In Atlantis, Aqualad is depressed that the only hero who got killed in that big hero-villain war was his girlfriend. I mean, I know that the fate of several universes hang in the balance, but Marv Wolfman wanted you to know more about Aqualad's precarious mental state. What point is there in preserving creation if Aqualad is going to be this bummed? On the planet Maltus, 10 billion years ago, the villains are trying to stop Krona, and they cock it up entirely, with Mirror Master, Maaldor and Icicle being the only three to even make it to Krona’s lab before getting knocked out by the man himself…and Krona immediately kills them for trying to interrupt. He opens his window to the past to the Big Bang... But the Spectre is channeling the powers of all of the magical heroes in one last, desperate gambit to save the day. He and Anti-Monitor struggle, and the Big Bang starts to occur with neither of them having a clear advantage, and fade to white, with the narration saying “It is the end of all that was.” To be continued! In a backup strip running along the bottom of this issue, Harbinger talks about the other fronts of the Crisis. The Prince Gavvyn Starman and Immortal Man are both killed off-screen. Six different versions of Kuraq merge into one near the Vega system, and Takron-Galtos, the prison planet, is destroyed, causing problems for the Legionnaires. None of these subplots really matter at all.12  The opening page explains what’s happened: the remaining five universes have all been collapsed into one singular universe, and it's the only universe we've got left, so treat it well. Earth-2 Superman wakes up and notices that his apartment is completely different, and Lois, his wife, is missing. He chalks everything up to just being a bad dream, and goes to work as the editor of the Daily Star, a local newspaper. But he ends up at the Daily Planet instead, and is confused. Earth-1 Superman shows up and shuttles him out of the Daily Planet while his coworkers wonder why Clark suddenly has an elderly doppleganger. Outside, the Supermen agree that Earth-2 Superman must have someone ended up on Earth-1, and decide to head to the warp zone in Central Park to send Earth-2 Superman home. On the way, they note that the weird weather created by the Crisis is gone and, somewhat more ominously, that the papers are still talking about Supergirl’s death, but they have no idea what killed her. Arriving in New York, they find the warp zone gone. But, still, there’s more than one way to travel between worlds, so they decide to head to Central City to use the Flash’s cosmic treadmill….and then things start to go horribly wrong when they see a sign trumpeting the twin cities of Central City and Keystone City, which is a problem, as Keystone City is supposed to be on Earth-2, and they’ve already established they’re on Earth-1. Earth-2 Superman starts getting worried, and almost loses it when he finds Jay Garrick, the Earth-2 Flash, and his wife on Earth-1, and Jay Garrick’s wife doesn’t recognize Earth-2 Superman at all. Jay does, though, and seems mildly puzzled by what’s going on. He takes the Supermen to his lab, where he and Kid Flash were just getting ready to use the cosmic treadmills to investigate just what has happened to the multiverse, and invite the Superman to join them. They start up the treadmill and try to travel to Earth-2…only to see an endless black void where Earth-2 should be. Earth-2 Superman, without a world, and trapped in a new universe that doesn’t remember him, decides that he should just fly into oblivion and get it over with, only to get wrestled back to Earth by the other heroes. Returning to the Flash’s lab, the cosmic treadmill is wrecked, and they all agree that it is clear that there is now only one Earth, and it’s time to call in the other heroes to deliver some more exposition about this important development. In space, Adam Strange, Rip Hunter, Dolphin and Animal Man, four forgettable B-listers, to the point where Animal Man was once a member of a team called "The Forgotten Heroes", have teamed up to travel through space to Brainiac’s spaceship, where they find the inert body of the villain. Okay, I’m glad we cleared that up. At Titans Tower, the heroes have reconvened, and the heroes from Earth-S, X, 4 and 2 are not exactly happy that they’ve been trapped on what is essentially a slightly modified version of Earth-1. Harbinger then shows up to announce that the world is still in danger. Cyborg asks how the gently caress she got her powers back, since she was supposed to have lost them saving Earths-S, X and 4 a few issues ago. Her answer, “In the rebirth of the universe many realities have changed.” Well, glad we cleared that up. And the hits keep on coming as Earth-2 Superman, Robin and the Huntress all bemoan that on this new world, their origins never happened, and they apparently don’t exist, with Huntress talking about waking up in the park, finding someone else in her apartment, no record of her existence anywhere, and her father, the Earth-2 Batman, having never have existed. She demands to know how the hell it’s possible that she’s still walking around despite having been erased from continuity, and Harbinger, now the living embodiment of the half-assed planning that would haunt DC Comics for years, explains “It is the irony of cosmic rebirth. There are many paradoxes, and not all can be explained." First of all, that's not how irony works. Second of all, if you are going to give the universe a soft reset, you should probably not follow that up by having characters wandering around complaining about all of the continuity problems that have just been created. Harbinger elaborates on the new history of Earth: Basically all of the remaining heroes that are still in continuity now share the same planet, even though they don’t really fit together all that well. Uncle Sam complains that he’s pretty loving sure that he and the Freedom Fighters went to Earth-X, but Harbinger shoots him down, leading to a distraught Uncle Sam complaining, “Y’can’t tell me I don’t remember it. I do.” That allows Harbinger to explain why some heroes remember. It turns out that those heroes who fought the Anti-Monitor at the beginning of time retain their memories of the multiverse and, in the case of Huntress and a few other characters, their lives in this new universe where they should not exist. Earth-2 Superman, who has now been told that all of his friends and family…and world are now gone, flies off taking about throwing himself into that big void where Earth-2 used to be again. Superboy-Prime decides to go after his elder counterpart to comfort him. In some mystery zone, the Spectre is comatose, and is put on the injured reserve for the rest of this series. Meanwhile, in Vegas, Angle Man dies a horrible death as his dimension-based powers backfire horribly when used in the new cosmic alignment. Truly a tragic loss. In Salem, Dr. Fate manages to save Amethyst13 from some angry villagers, but some of the Anti-Monitor’s shadow demons attack and blind her, in yet another scene that exists solely to introduce a subplot in another comic book. Oh, and both surviving versions of Wonder Woman show up on Paradise Island, and confront the fact that two of them is one too many. Power Girl, realizing a rather obvious problem that will go unsolved for two decades before everyone just gives up, asks Harbinger how the gently caress she still has a place in this new continuity if the version of Krypton she came from never existed. Harbinger, care to enlighten us, “I do not know, Power Girl. There are still many questions that cannot be answered.” Thanks, Harbinger! Batman then shows up with some answers, because he’s Batman, and thus a million times better than Harbinger. He explains that, for the most part, only one version of a character survived, with the Earth-1 version predominating, and the redundant characters can go gently caress themselves. Just then, the red skies reappear and the earth starts quaking as Anti-Monitor drags Earth into the Anti-Matter universe for one last stab at revenge, and bids the heroes “welcome to your DOOM!” Yes, I'm sure Anti-Monitor's seventh plot to destroy the universe will be the one that works!  Adam Strange’s team are still on Brainiac’s ship, and sees on the monitors that Earth has been taken to the anti-matter dimension, alarming them greatly. Brainiac wakes up, and decides that only one man can save them now... On Earth, the Anti-Monitor tells the heroes that they one tiny planet has foiled his plans for the last time, and that their “world must die”. The skies then go black, and things are looking dire. But wait! Harbinger is back, and she’s, once again, recruiting an elite team of super-heroes to fight Anti-Monitor on his own turf…just like they did in Crisis #7...when they beat the Anti-Monitor in almost the exact same circumstances as this one. But...uh...it'll be different this time, I'm sure! Harbinger also recruits Dr. Light, who is moping that the last time she tried to help, she distracted Supergirl, killing the Kryptonian. Harbinger assures Dr. Light that Supergirl was already mortally wounded by that point, and that Dr. Light really did Supergirl a favor by getting her blasted as it “kept her from suffering.” I guess we can add 'Super-Euthanasia' to Dr. Light's list of powers. The darkness in the skies soon breaks up into millions of shadow demons, who the Anti-Monitor sends in to kill as many people as possible. The heroes taking part in the final assault on the Anti-Monitor split themselves into two teams. The magical heroes, led by Golden Age Green Lantern and Dr. Occult are going to focus their energies on Earth while the Supermen and the like take the fight to the Anti-Monitor. On Apokolips, Brainiac has led the Adam Strange Super-Squad to a meeting with Darkseid, where he agrees to help when the moment is right. Back on Earth, we start to get the first few casualties of this issue, Dove, of the not particularly fondly remembered “Hawk and Dove” team, is the first to fall. Turns out Super-Pacifism is not the best power to have when being attacked by murderous shadow demons. On Anti-Matter’s homeworld, still wrecked from the last time the heroes invaded it, Kid Flash looks around for the Flash, and sees him appear for moment, trapped in the final moments of his life when Barry was bouncing through time. He then finds an insane Psycho Pirate cradling Flash’s empty costume, and Wally realizes that his mentor is gone for good. But there’s not a long time to mourn him because the Anti-Monitor is here! On Earth, we get a bunch more dead heroes. Earth-2 Green Arrow, dead! Prince Ra-Man, dead! Clayface one of them, at any rate, dead!14 Bug-eyed Bandit, dead! Kole, Earth-2 Robin and Huntress, all dead! Good thing those shadow demons can only hurt characters that no one gives a poo poo about! But soon the mystical heroes finally complete their great work and manage to capture all of the shadow demons into one big ball which they throw back into the anti-matter dimension. Which brings us back to the fight between the heroes and the Anti-Monitor. Since physical force isn’t enough, Harbinger and Alexander Luthor have come up with another plan. Harbinger tasks Dr. Light with draining of energy a nearby star that Anti-Monitor had been drawing power from while Alexander starts draining the Anti-Monitor’s anti-matter energy directly. Alexander then directs Negative Woman to use her radioactive form to bind the Anti-Monitor while everyone unloads their full powers at the guy, and Dr. Light finishes him off by blasting him with the full power of a sun. Anti-Monitor’s lifeless body collapses. Alexander Luthor then uses the energy he has left to open a portal so he can return the Earth and the heroes to their proper place, but then that big ball of shadow demons lands right on the Anti-Monitor’s body, and brings the villain back to life once again. For gently caress's sake. The Anti-Monitor, now even more pissed that usual, unleashes his full power at Earth-1 Wonder Woman, erasing her from existence, and wounding Kid Flash in the process. With most of the heroes already through the portal, Earth-1 Superman decides it’s up to him to save the day, only to be cold-cocked by Earth-2 Superman, who has decided to channel his suicidal ideation in a more positive way by staying behind to finish off the Anti-Monitor. Superboy-Prime, his world gone too, decides that he also has no real place in the new Earth, so stays behind as well. That leaves Earth-2 Superman, Superboy-Prime and Alexander Luthor in a final battle against Anti-Monitor, who is weakened, as the magical heroes had poisoned the shadow demons, as they had foreseen the Anti-Monitor doing something like absorbing them, or something. Who cares? We're almost done! Now having the upper hand, Superman and Superboy start brawling with the weakening Anti-Monitor, who is seemingly finished when Superman crushes him between two asteroids. But the Anti-Monitor comes back once again, because he absolutely will not stop until they are all dead, forcing Darkseid to decide that it’s finally time to get involved, and uses Alexander Luthor as a conduit for his Omega Beams, destroying what little was left of the Anti-Monitor’s body, and sending the being into the heart of a star. Superman, Superboy and Alexander take a breather, but, nope, that STILL wasn't enough to kill the Anti-Monitor, who comes back in fireball form, determined to kill someone, anyone, before dying. Superman, having finally had enough, finally kills the Anti-Monitor with a right hook, knocking the remnants back into the star, causing the star to implode, sending out shockwaves that will imminently kill the heroes. Superman and Superboy are accepting of this, as at least they finally killed Anti-Monitor, but Alexander Luthor, being the sport he is, offers to take them to a paradise dimension of everlasting peace instead, and even saved Earth-2 Lois Lane for Earth-2 Superman. The heroes accept, and they go on to enjoy their reward...until Geoff Johns gets his hands on them, at least. And that’s it, but Harbinger decides to grace us with a final round of exposition to tie up a few loose ends. Earth-1 Wonder Woman was erased from existence so hard that both Paradise Island and the Amazons were erased along with her. Bummer for her. Earth-2 Wonder Woman, on the other hand, was made a goddess by Zeus for services rendered, and then was retroactively erased from continuity. A bunch of heroes are dead, but Harbinger promises us that “they would not be forgotten," actually, most of the heroes who were killed this issue were retroactively erased from continuity as well, so that's not quite true. Wally West, the Kid Flash, is cured of the disease that was killing him every time he used his super-speed, but his top speed is now capped at the speed of sound. He decides to become the new Flash regardless. And Lady Quark, Harbinger and Pariah decide to start traveling together, because every other hero is loving sick of all their bullshit by this point. Oh, and Psycho Pirate is now the only one with a full memory of the pre-Crisis universe, but his experiences have driven him mad. The end! Footnotes 1The Guardians had made a rule against trying to observe the beginning of the universe for whatever reason, so Krona was breaking the law by doing so. 2Don't get me wrong, I appreciate how Marv Wolfman wanted to introduce an Asian-American female hero to introduce more diversity into the DC Universe, but no one ever cared about this character. Ever. 3Why kill off Supergirl? A few reasons, all of which strongly favored her kicking the bucket. First, her last solo series had been apocalyptically terrible, to the point where the DC editors had to wonder whether she was even capable of supporting her own monthly title. Second, in 1984, DC had released Supergirl, attempting to cash in on the Superman franchise of films. It too was terrible, and was a dismal flop at the box office. Third, John Byrne, the incoming writer of the Superman comics line, made it known that he was going to erase her from continuity when he took over, as he felt her presence as "Superman's Cousin" took away from the idea that Superman was the very last of the Kryptonians. So, yeah, killing her off made a ton of sense at the time. 4Blue Devil was a relatively new character at the time. He was a stuntman who had built a devil costume, and then got trapped in that costume when he was blasted with magical energy by an actual demon. Later on, he became a demon outright. 5In modern crossovers, they tend to do this poo poo a lot, where you have to buy other comics to get the full story, but in Crisis, since the Crisis on Infinite Earths comic was usually about two or three months ahead of the rest of the comics continuity-wise, it happened only rarely. In case you're wondering, the rip in time led to Blue Devil meeting versions of himself and his supporting cast from a parallel universe, despite the fact that, at this point in the story, since those guys weren't from any of the surviving five universes, and every other universe had been destroyed by that point. In fairness, when you're dealing with every character ever and a dozen or so universes, mistakes like that are pretty easy to make. 6Which leads to a story in Green Lantern where it turns out that the renegade Guardians' plan to defeat the Anti-Monitor would ultimately destroy all life if successful due to an unfortunate oversight during the planning process, forcing the other Green Lanterns to fight Gardner and his army of conscripted villains. 7New Teen Titans was, at the time, one of DC's hottest-selling titles. This particularly storyarc had Starfire, an alien princess, being summoned home for what turned out to be an arranged marriage as Nightwing, her human lover, brooded about it and did nothing of consequence. 8The Cosmic Treadmill was a device that allowed Flash to run so fast that he traveled through time, and occasionally, as the plot demanded, another dimension. 9At this point, Aquaman had two sidekicks, Aqualad and Aquagirl, despite the fact that he was a glorified sidekick himself. 10Which leads to Steel ending up in the far-future where he teams up with erstwhile JLA villain, the Lord of Time, to fight some super-evil clones said Lord made of himself. And then the Lord of Time realizes that he has a time machine, and so just goes back in time and prevents himself from making the clones in the first place. And then Steel decides to gently caress the Lord of Time's clone daughter. 11Okay, this one is going to take some explaining. So, in the pre-Crisis era, characters would occasionally go to a place called Earth-Prime, which was supposed to be the real world, where there weren't any super-heroes or super-villains. For whatever reason, Elliot S! Maggin and Curt Swan, one of the more respected writer/artist teams of that time, wrote a story where the Earth-1 Superman traveled to Earth-Prime and met the Superboy of that world, who was Clark Kent, except with minor differences in his origin story. Now, it was known by this point that, shortly after the Crisis ended, all versions of Superboy were being written out of continuity, so Marv Wolfman trucked this version of Superboy, Superboy-Prime, if you will, into the story to give the character a proper send-off even if, strictly speaking, it wasn't really the Superboy who had starred in all of those Superboy stories from the '50s and '60s (that would be the younger version of the Earth-1 Superman if you're keeping track). 12In Legion, the response to the explosion of Takron-Galtos is just building another prison planet. The Kuraq poo poo has to do with an ongoing plot in Omega Men, but it doesn't really go anywhere important, since the book as only a few months away from cancellation by this point. The Prince Gavyyn version of Starman dying would be an important subplot, but only in a comic released a dozen years after the Crisis. 13Dr. Fate is the most powerful magical character in the DC Universe, and Amethyst is a teenage girl with magical powers. For whatever reason, Keith Giffen...you know, I'll explain it next time. 14There were four different villains named "Clayface" active at the time. Why? Who the gently caress knows. As Harbinger would say "Many questions have been birthed in this new universe, but the answers are often stillborn." It's going to be okay!  tadashi's filibuster continues!
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Mr. Cool Ice posted:I've never been so grateful to be illiterate. Wait, but if you were really illiterate, you wouldn't know why you would be grateful to be illiterate. You're a loving liar, McFreeze, and I hate you. Also, I'd care what you guys thought if 90% of this thread's traffic weren't Marauder's alt accounts.
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For what it's worth, as insane as these explanations are, and insanely detailed as they are, I am enjoying them. I've never managed to get a compendium worth of knowledge on the crisis events. So the super-filibuster is pretty amazing.
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Monathin posted:For what it's worth, as insane as these explanations are, and insanely detailed as they are, I am enjoying them. I've never managed to get a compendium worth of knowledge on the crisis events. So the super-filibuster is pretty amazing. No one likes a shill, Monathin. As far as the filibuster goes...the beatings will continue until morale improves or until we get to Infinite Crisis.
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Smasher Dynamo posted:You're a loving liar, McFreeze, and I hate you. 
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  Results   Communism endures! Det. Don Slaught's journey to the truth continues! The Ted Sox are preparing their concession speech! The Purifiers could not purify the league, so they themselves were purified!             Pick 'em: Gauntlet Round 3 Pick Two Cosmobats Lombard St. Gumshoes Mercury METSSS New Vegas High Rollers
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Pick 'em: Gauntlet Round 3 Pick Two Cosmobats Lombard St. Gumshoes Mercury METSSS New Vegas High Rollers I can't bet against the METSSS
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Pick 'em: Gauntlet Round 3 Pick Two Cosmobats New Vegas High Rollers
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Pick 'em: Divisional Series! Pick the winner, number of games (best-of-five), and score of final game Burma Imperialists vs. Somali Pirates in 4, final game 6-2 Cancun Tornados vs. Rockford Losers in 3, final game 8-3 New World Symphony vs. Fukuoka Finger-Bangers in 5, final game 4-1 South Bolton Eazy W's vs. Walney Rakers in 5, final game 7-3 Pick 'em! Gauntlet round 3 Cosmobats New Vegas
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tadashi posted:I've been away for a couple days. Did I miss something? You missed the beginning of your filibuster to delay your relegation. Pick 'em: Gauntlet Round 3 Pick Two Cosmobats Lombard St. Gumshoes Mercury METSSS New Vegas High Rollers
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