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mr. mephistopheles posted:I don't feel like it was ever an attempt to appeal to old school Republicans. Pretty much this, it was clearly a planned 'grassroots' movement (There were I believe TeaParty.com type URLs registered even before Santelli made his speech that had fully functioning sites up advertising different 'tea parties' within hours) but attracted a much more vocal and out there group than expected. The hope had been to get the base fired up and give moderate right voters something that they could feel involved in and appealed to pretty much everyone who leans right (against government over-reach, overtaxation, etc.) as well as a convenient front for attacking Democrat policies. Instead the crazies latched on, turned the moderates off, launched attacks on Democrat conspiracy theories and started pushing for the kinds of values Ghengis Khan would have thought was a little extreme.
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I seem to recall mentions of tea party patriots and such back in the days of the mighty Ron Paul blimp. In particular, about a tea party gathering in which they expected the blimp pilot to fly through a storm. I think these were the guys that the modern Tea Party has co-opted the identity from? There were certainly a lot of colonial cosplayers among them, if memory serves.
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Del Capitan posted:I seem to recall mentions of tea party patriots and such back in the days of the mighty Ron Paul blimp. In particular, about a tea party gathering in which they expected the blimp pilot to fly through a storm. I think these were the guys that the modern Tea Party has co-opted the identity from? There were certainly a lot of colonial cosplayers among them, if memory serves. There's a good article about the origins of the Tea Party here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brendan-demelle/study-confirms-tea-party-_b_2663125.html
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Twisted Perspective posted:There's a good article about the origins of the Tea Party here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brendan-demelle/study-confirms-tea-party-_b_2663125.html Good to see what Mark Ames and Yasha Levine called out four years ago has been proven right, shame it got buried back when it all started. I'm just finally glad there's irrefutable evidence that the Teaparty has more astroturf than a 60's football stadium and we can stop pretending that there's any independent thought. I know people are going to argue that some of the fat fucks they saw dressing like old dead guys weren't astroturfed but that's the same as calling a Sci-Fi convention or fanfiction an original idea.
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Nov 2, 2013 14:44
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It goes along with conservatives flabbergasted lampooning of anything "organic". 
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MrNemo posted:the kinds of values Ghengis Khan would have thought was a little extreme. Genghis Khan promoted religious tolerance and wealth redistribution. He was literally too liberal for the Tea Party.
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Nov 2, 2013 22:46
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I'm convinced at this point Bill Maher keeps having Ann Coulter on his show because he's trying to gently caress her. She's terrible, she isn't funny, she isn't even fun to make fun of.
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He already did, they are gently caress partners in trolldom.
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Nov 2, 2013 23:40
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It actually restores some of my faith in the universe to know that those hate-mongers found each other. I imagine their love life is just a loop of that creepy scene from the end of Munich.
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Nov 3, 2013 00:01
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There's a scene in the original World War Z novel where Maher and Coulter actually do gently caress.
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Presumably he does not get the same sense of accomplishment loving Koko and Ebony and Fox, and the other ladies of the night he has hired. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpGgQX9frSY
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beatlegs posted:The Tea Party, at least initially, was a deliberate attempt to re-brand the GOP after Dubya destroyed it. It quickly morphed into an ugly monster, but in the beginning it was an obvious attempt by the GOP and conservative media to plant into the public consciousness the idea that Bush was so ancient history! and look at these jingling keys over here! there is this new groundswell of "traditional values" a-comin' over that hill! why you could almost swear it was the GOP of old! It was more of an attempt to re-brand it to attempt to appeal to the younger libertarian set that disliked Bush and the "traditional values" poo poo because they smoked pot and were atheists/agnostics. I know a couple Ron Paul libertarians(i.e. they oppose war, support no governmental involvement in marriage, legalize drugs, let corporations own us as slaves, etc.) who ardently claim that the Tea Party was "less crazy" when it first started out. They liked it when it first came around but won't touch the label now. 
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MisterBadIdea posted:There's a scene in the original World War Z novel where Maher and Coulter actually do gently caress. Yeah, they are at that house on Long Island that's been made a fortress for the rich and famous as bate for a reality show, right? Brooks should go back and add a sentence like: "and that one actor who is always eating was just desperately trying to get his wife on the phone."
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Ted Nugent would like the readers of World Net Daily to know that he's basically Rosa Parks, if she'd had a guitar.quote:Heavily armed with whatever media bully pulpit I can muster, I exercise my First Amendment rights like my hero Rosa Parks who refused to sit at the back of the bus when that numb-nut law existed. I’m Rosa Parks with a Gibson. I don't recall there actually being a law preventing him from writing and performing Wang Dang Sweet Poontang, but there's probably should have been.
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Not many people know that Rosa Parks kept her seat by making GBS threads her pants.
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My favorite part of the Montgomery bus boycott was when Rosa Parks came swinging in dressed like Tarzan and shot a flaming arrow at the bus. Then jammed out to Wango Tango.
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comes along bort posted:My favorite part of the Montgomery bus boycott was when Rosa Parks came swinging in dressed like Tarzan and shot a flaming arrow at the bus. Then jammed out to Wango Tango. Let's be fair: that would have been awesome. Well, except for the song choice.
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MisterBadIdea posted:There's a scene in the original World War Z novel where Maher and Coulter actually do gently caress. I always thought Brooks was alluding to Jon Stewart
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Nice Davis posted:I always thought Brooks was alluding to Jon Stewart I did too, because that's the first name Everyone thinks of when they hear "funny politics guy," but Maher makes more sense. Wasn't "funny politics guy" said to be "going on about high-fructose corn syrup" or something? Is that a Bill Maher thing? Dr Christmas fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Nov 3, 2013 |
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Dr Christmas posted:I did too, because that's the fist name I think of when I hear "funny politics guy," but Maher makes more sense. World War Z posted:There was the political comedy guy, you know, the one with the show...He said that, subconsciously, everyone already knew the truth during the "Great Denial", and that's why they wigged out so hard when the story was finally broken. It all actually kinda made sense, until he started spewing about high fructose corn syrup and the feminization of America. I guess it was supposed to be Bill Maher after all.
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Speaking of books, I just realized that Rush Limbaugh's kids' book has been out since earlier this week. I tried to find a hilarious dissection of it, but no dice. All I found were a million conservative blogs crowing about it and a peculiar number of positive reviews that were submitted on the very first day of release--and only half of them were verified as having purchased it (on Amazon).
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OMG JC a Bomb! posted:Speaking of books, I just realized that Rush Limbaugh's kids' book has been out since earlier this week. I tried to find a hilarious dissection of it, but no dice. All I found were a million conservative blogs crowing about it and a peculiar number of positive reviews that were submitted on the very first day of release--and only half of them were verified as having purchased it (on Amazon). So many conservative books are faked onto bestseller lists and have the system gamed with phony slobbering reviews to create fake buzz. Sometimes they even make buying shitloads of their books part of some multi level marketing bullshit they try to rope their senile audience into. Hell - Palin was buying up her own book with her PAC. On that note - virtually the entire republican party if you really look at it is like one big haven for fraud and multi-level marketing scams. So many ads for these things on right wing radio/tv/blogs preying on their gullible and ignorant audience. Spacedad fucked around with this message at 08:02 on Nov 3, 2013 |
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Spacedad posted:So many conservative books are faked onto bestseller lists and have the system gamed with phony slobbering reviews to create fake buzz. Sometimes they even make buying shitloads of their books part of some multi level marketing bullshit they try to rope their senile audience into.
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Spacedad posted:So many conservative books are faked onto bestseller lists and have the system gamed with phony slobbering reviews to create fake buzz. Sometimes they even make buying shitloads of their books part of some multi level marketing bullshit they try to rope their senile audience into. DARKIES ARE TRYING TO DESTROY YOUR COUNTRY, gently caress YOUR MOTHER, AND SELL DRUGS TO YOUR SON. ARE YOU GONNA LET THAT HAPPEN? GOTTA TAKE THIS COUNTRY BACK. More after these messages. *Are you angry? Do you feel like the world just isn't the same anymore? For only 39.99 you can buy Doctor gently caress You's patented sugar pills to address all of your mental problems."
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Spacedad posted:So many conservative books are faked onto bestseller lists and have the system gamed with phony slobbering reviews to create fake buzz. Sometimes they even make buying shitloads of their books part of some multi level marketing bullshit they try to rope their senile audience into.  incoming: As a tie-in with with ABC's TV show "Castle", Hyperion Books has published (to date) five real novels based on the fictional novels in the show; in universe of the show, Richard Castle is a bestselling author and writer of the "Nikki Heat" series, which are a fictionalized portrayal of his relationship with Beckett and the novels are based on the cases they've worked on. So you've got a book by a fictional author [Richard Castle] about a fictional journalist [Jameson Rook] and a fictional detective [Nikki Heat], who are based on another fictional detective [Kate Beckett] and the fictional writer [Richard Castle] who wrote the book. Inception doesn't begin to cover it. The point of this? All five of these novels made it to the top ten of the New York Times bestseller list, with the novels ranking at #6, #7, #1, #7, and #8 on the list, respectively. That should tell you all you need to know about the New York times bestseller list. Oh, and apparently, the books aren't half bad if you're a fan of Castle and/or mystery novels.
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I recently did the drive from Baltimore to Pensacola, so I finally got to listen to the likes of rush, hannity, and levin over my 15 hour transit. I was in a state of wonder how they just feed off each other's lies and half-truths. I guess I just wasn't prepared for the rhetoric. But for two days, the Sesame Street word was "ideology," because they were all saying itwithhigh frequency. rush pronounced it like IDE-ology and I thought he had coined some wierd word.
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If only they had pronounced it like the Japanese surname Ide (ee-day).
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Spacedad posted:So many conservative books are faked onto bestseller lists and have the system gamed with phony slobbering reviews to create fake buzz. Sometimes they even make buying shitloads of their books part of some multi level marketing bullshit they try to rope their senile audience into. Ignoring everything else, the type of commercials a certain channel runs is a very good insight to the kind of people that watch it. With FOX News, it's a legion of paranoid and gullible old people.
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Blarghalt posted:Ignoring everything else, the type of commercials a certain channel runs is a very good insight to the kind of people that watch it. With FOX News, it's a legion of paranoid and gullible old people. In particular, those gold scams that keep running relentlessly. I somehow get the feeling that the same elderly people falling for this crap wouldn't have fallen for it several decades earlier in their lives.
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My favorite thing is that they've adopted the exact language of scammy internet ads. Boost your social security payment by using the ONE WEIRD TRICK that OBAMA doesn't want you to know about!
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ReidRansom posted:My favorite thing is that they've adopted the exact language of scammy internet ads. Boost your social security payment by using the ONE WEIRD TRICK that OBAMA doesn't want you to know about! The sad thing is when they are so obviously deceiving and set up a false ditchotomy, such as the socialsecurityfree one that states that Obama is decreAsing SS checks, then right after saying that the 2014 rate is a 1.4% increase. Afterwards, they state how much SNAP has increased, like SS is related at all. It's just more of the us vs them mindset and "those damned poors!"
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Vriess posted:rush pronounced it like IDE-ology and I thought he had coined some wierd word. Wait, what's wrong with this, I think this is how I pronounce it  e: wait, no I don't, I read the word wrong originally.
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ashgromnies posted:It was more of an attempt to re-brand it to attempt to appeal to the younger libertarian set that disliked Bush and the "traditional values" poo poo because they smoked pot and were atheists/agnostics. Yeah, I seem to remember reading some articles around the initial wave of Tea Party rallies about how the religious right felt left out due to the message being largely economic. Not long after that, Beck hosted the "Restoring Honer" rally, which I figured was an attempt to bridge the gap.
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There's always been a religious right/Dale Gribble/John Birch element to libertarians. If anything the upper middle class, yay business and weed half-baked 2AM dorm room philosopher types are the historical anomaly. The oldest of the latter group are almost entirely Gen Xers.
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When your economic warriors are too scared and lonely to call out religious nutcases and your religious nutcases have absolutely no interest in checking the work of your economic warriors who gives a poo poo who started the thing. You leave one out in the sun for a day and it starts growing the other.
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Remember, the Chair of the Tea Party Caucus is Michelle Bachmann, who hates fa- I mean "advocates social causes" with the best/worst of them.
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So that story 60 minutes ran with that Benghazi 'witness' who was in fact found to be lying, I guess they're doubling down on it? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/03/1252878/-60-Minutes-doubles-down-on-Benghazi-fibber
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I know Townhall is absolute garbage, but they just posted their obligatory MILENNIALS article and it reads like a loving parody of the Conservative mindset: http://t.co/C4xLrLFtsK
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bobservo posted:I know Townhall is absolute garbage, but they just posted their obligatory MILENNIALS article and it reads like a loving parody of the Conservative mindset: That's a pretty decent sum up of the Republican Id at the moment. Liberalism caused every bad thing on the planet up to and including things being made up wholesale (no explanation attached of course), conservatism is the answer but too bad you spited it and now you must feel our wrath. We're taking our ball and going home, we don't even WANT your votes.
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