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I love how it's got all the loving quirks that could have been identified by letting an actual photographer try to use it for all of 30 minutes.
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evil_bunnY posted:I love how it's got all the loving quirks that could have been identified by letting an actual photographer try to use it for all of 30 minutes. Dpreview reviewer was using it wrong, he wasn't wearing a fedora.
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Nov 5, 2013 19:53
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They should sell memory cards that only hold 36 shots.
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Nov 5, 2013 20:56
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aliencowboy posted:They should sell memory cards that only hold 36 shots. non-Fuji user spotted. (so Kodak then? or were you one of those snobs that insisted on shooting artsy stuff like Ilford*) * (Yeah, I shot lots of Delta-100 and HP-5 too) 
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Nov 5, 2013 21:06
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aliencowboy posted:They should sell memory cards that only hold 36 shots. http://www.amazon.com/Transcend-512Mb-Sd-Card-80X/dp/B0009I6KC0 
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Nov 5, 2013 21:07
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http://feedly.com/k/1aoYicS Joe McNally got a preproduction DF to test in mexico, confirms there's no video, but handles pretty well despite all the buttons. But he's also sponsored by Nikon, so take it with a grain of salt.
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Nov 5, 2013 23:58
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Oh my god, I had no idea you couldn't use manual focus lenses without a splitscreen focus aid. Thanks Nikon thread, guess I will go put the split prism back into my F3 after years of using a plain one.
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8th-snype posted:Oh my god, I had no idea you couldn't use manual focus lenses without a splitscreen focus aid. Thanks Nikon thread, guess I will go put the split prism back into my F3 after years of using a plain one. I'm not sure why people think it's impossible to focus using just a normal groundglass, when in fact it's really easy, and if you have broken eyes there's always AF-confirm.
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Yeah, if it's got nikon's nice AF confirm you can probably skip the split prism pretty easily.
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8th-snype posted:Oh my god, I had no idea you couldn't use manual focus lenses without a splitscreen focus aid. Thanks Nikon thread, guess I will go put the split prism back into my F3 after years of using a plain one. I get what you're saying, but it's kind of a baffling decision to leave it out, given the marketing and other design decisions. By making the camera compatible with pre-AI lenses, Nikon is definitely acknowledging the use of manual focus lenses with it. It's also catering to the crowd that grew up focusing manually (often, or even usually, with a split prism viewfinder), as well as the crowd that wants to be retro and thinks that you need a split prism to use manual focus lenses. I would argue that having a split prism, or at least the ability to replace the screen with a split prism, would be more consistent with the rest of the camera. I would also say that for me personally, it is easier to use manual focus lenses with a split prism viewfinder than without. That being said, I'm sure it won't be long until someone like Katzeye makes a split prism viewfinder for it. Installing new screens isn't really that hard, even on cameras that don't have explicitly user-replacable focus screens.
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8th-snype posted:Oh my god, I had no idea you couldn't use manual focus lenses without a splitscreen focus aid. Thanks Nikon thread, guess I will go put the split prism back into my F3 after years of using a plain one. To be fair, when I upgraded from my 'microprism (macroprism? it was bigger chunks than what's normally called microprism) only' zenit to a camera with split-screen, it was a HUGE boost in being able to focus decently. But yeah, not 'necessary' just a 'wtf were nikon thinking...' thing.
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SybilVimes posted:But yeah, not 'necessary' just a 'wtf were nikon thinking...' thing. Probably "why bother when KatzEye will do it for us in a month anyways and people would just buy their version anyways because ours would be more expensive."
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Nov 6, 2013 01:00
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For 2700 bucks couldn't they have included one?
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SoundMonkey posted:Probably "why bother when KatzEye will do it for us in a month anyways and people would just buy their version anyways because ours would be more expensive." I mean, if they're going to leave video out entirely for philosophical reasons, a split prism should definitely have gone in.
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Someone said the Df was essentially the same size as the D800, but I haven't found very many other size comparisons. Is that the case? There's nothing wrong with the D800 but I'd kinda hoped this camera would be more FM2 sized than D800 sized.
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ultrabay2000 posted:Someone said the Df was essentially the same size as the D800, but I haven't found very many other size comparisons. Is that the case? There's nothing wrong with the D800 but I'd kinda hoped this camera would be more FM2 sized than D800 sized. I've been hearing D610 sized, which is only a little bit smaller than a D800 right? Yah, it seems big to me also. And the depth looks kind of odd with the retro styling, it's too thick to be a film camera. I guess all the electronics for the buttons and screen take up too much room.
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Nov 6, 2013 01:48
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It's already up on camerasize http://camerasize.com/compare/#495,486
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a foolish pianist posted:I mean, if they're going to leave video out entirely for philosophical reasons, a split prism should definitely have gone in. And while they were at it, the HDMI could have been left out too.
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Nov 6, 2013 02:44
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Katzeye never released a screen for the D600/800 so I wouldn't be expecting one for the Df, which really sucks (not that I plan on getting a Df anyways). It really would be nice though to have a nice split prism since the focus confirmation for manual lenses isn't quite accurate enough especially at wider apertures.
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Dren posted:What is the deal with d600 refurbs do they still have the sensor issue? Refurbs should be fine. I got a refurb d600 from KEH almost 7 months ago now and haven't had any issues with dust.
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SoundMonkey posted:Probably "why bother when KatzEye will do it for us in a month anyways and people would just buy their version anyways because ours would be more expensive." I thought the point was that the Df not only didn't have a split screen, but also had no possibility to replace the screen? Focus confirmation is great and all, but I always find it faster and more accurate to MF on a split screen. The faster part is the important one- any action/motion and hunting the focus dot becomes a bit of a lost cause.
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StarkingBarfish posted:I thought the point was that the Df not only didn't have a split screen, but also had no possibility to replace the screen? "Not replaceable" really means "not easily replaceable." You can still reach the focus screen through the mirror box.
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ultrabay2000 posted:Someone said the Df was essentially the same size as the D800, but I haven't found very many other size comparisons. Is that the case? There's nothing wrong with the D800 but I'd kinda hoped this camera would be more FM2 sized than D800 sized. The Camera Store's hands-on video is up on youtube; Chris Nicholls compares it to the D600, size-wise. Just watching him hold it, it's fairly large, but not a beast like the D4 he swaps in for test shots (they won't let him take pictures with the Df). It also comes in black, so if nothing else, it's a slightly lighter-weight D4 for half the price. I like the black, reminds me of the F3/F4. ShadeofBlue posted:"Not replaceable" really means "not easily replaceable." You can still reach the focus screen through the mirror box. One time one of my coworkers dropped his D1 (set it on a table at the street fair, table collapsed) hard enough to knock a pretty substantial chunk out of the body on the corner of the bit where the back LCD screen sticks out, and the focus screen popped out. He was able to put it back in and the camera continued working perfectly.
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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8th-snype posted:Oh my god, I had no idea you couldn't use manual focus lenses without a splitscreen focus aid. Thanks Nikon thread, guess I will go put the split prism back into my F3 after years of using a plain one.  I want to take this post out back, and get it pregnant.
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Nov 7, 2013 05:54
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woot.com has a D600 kit refurbished today. So there's that.
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Nov 7, 2013 23:59
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aliencowboy posted:They should sell memory cards that only hold 36 shots. "Maximum Photos: Save only x number of photos until you format your card, or insert another card. Photos cannot be deleted while this function is enabled. (Disable this feature to use full capacity of the card and enable delete functionality.)"
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Nov 8, 2013 04:38
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Every photo after 36 is a multiple exposure.
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aliencowboy posted:They should sell memory cards that only hold 36 shots. They do. Well, might be hard to find these days, but 256/512MB cards exist. I don't have one handy to test with the D7000, but I remember a 512 feeling way too small even with a D1x shooting jpg. So modern resolutions+RAW should get you down to 24-36 shots on a >gigabyte card. My little Canon 6mp point-and-shoot came with a 32MB SD card, I should try that in the D7000.
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Beastruction posted:Every photo after 36 is a multiple exposure. And every so often, you'll think you have a full card, but when you plug it in to your computer, the card is empty because you didn't insert the card into the camera just so.
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Shitcamera of camera-around-the-world fame has a 16mb card. If you set it to medium jpeg (1Mpix) you get ~40 shots, otherwise it's only like 12.
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Spime Wrangler posted:Shitcamera of camera-around-the-world fame has a 16mb card. If you set it to medium jpeg (1Mpix) you get ~40 shots, otherwise it's only like 12. 12 shots too many.
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HPL posted:And every so often, you'll think you have a full card, but when you plug it in to your computer, the card is empty because you didn't insert the card into the camera just so. One of the guys in the cinematography thread was telling us about how they used to haze new people by telling them they had to replace REDMAGs inside a film changing tent or else it wouldn't record video properly 
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Anyone been shafted by Amazon and their fakes? My other half got me a MB D11 grip and it is plastic, the locking wheel is shockingly loose, the battery drawers have no nikon logo and the rubber isn't the same pattern [among other things]. I studied some videos and pretty sure it's fake. But at least the wheels don't change the apperture in reverse motion like other fakes  A real shame as she paid £130 for this poo poo-heap.
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simosimo posted:Anyone been shafted by Amazon and their fakes? My other half got me a MB D11 grip and it is plastic, the locking wheel is shockingly loose, the battery drawers have no nikon logo and the rubber isn't the same pattern [among other things]. I studied some videos and pretty sure it's fake. But at least the wheels don't change the apperture in reverse motion like other fakes I've sold on Amazon before and they generally don't release the funds to the seller for something like two weeks or even longer after the item has been delivered in the event of something like that. She can surely get a refund since that sounds terrible especially for the price. The only mix up I've really had was when I ordered a Nikon flash on there earlier this year and when it arrived it was very clearly a Canon flash. I complained about it and the seller gave me a refund and told me to just keep the thing so now it sits on a cheap wireless trigger that doesn't do TTL anyways.
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Here's their reply after mentioning about how poo poo it is:quote:It's Hongkong version after I checked with the stock,however,pls take it easy,it's not fake,could you tell me whether it's can't compatible with your Nikon SLR?I'll give you some discount if just the performance not adequate,waitting your reply sincerely. Oh dear. Bearing in mind this is a UK company.
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simosimo posted:Here's their reply after mentioning about how poo poo it is: "It's counterfeit and I'm doing a chargeback, please explain to my credit card issuer about any discounts you may be willing to provide."
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