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I used to like Tvtropes, I've read far to many pages and still occasionally look up a movie I recently watched. Never participated on the forum though, it seemed like a dumb and horribly laid out place. Reading through this thread it seems like I was right on the money on that. To bad I missed the previous ones. As stupid as it sounds, I also liked all of the nonsensical injoke names they used. Things went wrong for me when they started wanting to be a serious resource. I do the occasional bit of internet amateur writing. I actually tried learning more about writing by looking at their notes and learning about tropes. Heck, I learned about Mary Sues from them. (Says enough about my quality prior) It has made me a better writer (but then I also started reading more critically to see how better writers do things) and I can see that playing lego's with tropes to make a story is a Complex motivation? That's the same thing as a guy with cool shades right? Going into the forums for the first time at least confirmed my first impression of the thing. Such a horrible lay out. Writers block: link question posted:In my revised version of Fafnir's Bane, the steampunk reimagining of the Volsunga Saga I'm working on, the third-person narrator for some sections is Heid, aka the wise woman or seeress from Voluspá who has a LONG memory and tells Odin of the coming of Ragnarok. Anyway, let's see what happens. answer posted:For me, writing immortality is basically a justification for three things: an almost supernatural level of skill at the job (even moreso if the character isn't all that supernatural on his/her own), a very bad memory and a stalwart resistance to any change that isn't caused by the immortal him/herself. Just throw everything in, I'm sure that will work! Subtelty be damned.
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# ? Nov 5, 2013 16:13 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 18:32 |
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^^ After looking at the concentrated insanity of the "Dozerfleet founder" and his great works, the typical troper hogwash is sorta bland to my over stimulated tastebuds.
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# ? Nov 5, 2013 17:26 |
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Vaginapocalypse posted:^^ "The Dozerfleet founder" is so compelling. I feel bad for him because his family are so hyperreligious in that creepy Bill Gothard vein, but I imagine he'd be an odd duck even without that. Writing a huge wiki about yourself in the third person (mostly, every now and then he slips up) certainly takes commitment.
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# ? Nov 6, 2013 00:02 |
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Is there a place that his comics/novels can actually be read? I spent ages looking through the wiki trying to find a link to them. It would be amazing if these narratives only existed in the form of wiki synopses.
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# ? Nov 6, 2013 00:45 |
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Sailor Viy posted:Is there a place that his comics/novels can actually be read? I spent ages looking through the wiki trying to find a link to them. It would be amazing if these narratives only existed in the form of wiki synopses.
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Sailor Viy posted:Is there a place that his comics/novels can actually be read? I spent ages looking through the wiki trying to find a link to them. It would be amazing if these narratives only existed in the form of wiki synopses. Hey, it's just like Endless Conflict!
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# ? Nov 6, 2013 01:18 |
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Sailor Viy posted:Is there a place that his comics/novels can actually be read? I spent ages looking through the wiki trying to find a link to them. It would be amazing if these narratives only existed in the form of wiki synopses. Here's some version of Ciem. It's written in fairly grammatical English, which I wasn't expecting.
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That dozerfleet poo poo is absolutely gold, holy jesusCrooked Rainbow posted:The Crooked Rainbow is a term with three different meanings in the Dozerfleet lexicon. All three definitions refer to Marxist, radicalist, militant homosexualist causes and homofascism in some form or another. Origin posted:In 2006, the Dozerfleet founder argued against a classmate (now referred to exclusively as "the Evil Hair Maiden") that "straight" was a totally appropriate term, and that only the term "gay" was a misnomer, as many who are caught up in homosexuality are anything but happy with their lives. "Crooked" was proposed to refer to all of it in general, but specifically towards those who harbor malice for heterosexual society - and have expressed it through their actions. Uses in Dozerfleet Comics posted:Stationery Voyagers was the first work to use the term "Crooked Rainbow" to refer to an organization. In this work's universe, "Crooked Rainbow" is a nickname for GLAAPC, the "Gay/Lesbian Alliance Against All Possible Criticism." It is portrayed as a sometimes-rabid, radical mob that stalks the Voyagers all over Mantith; wanting their heads for refusing to endorse gay causes. Their ultra-violent antics and aligning of themselves with the Drismabons has led to the Angelic Army of Minshus having to occasionally intervene to keep the group's antics of inadvertently destroying the universe, which they have almost done several times out of sheer spitefulness and contempt for the Voyagers. They even kidnap Oceanoe Hendelbin at one point, and inject him with reverse-Eros gas to turn him gay. When it doesn't work, but the toxin makes him very insecure and distraught anyway, they take him to a hideout and torture him sadistically. This leads to Filforth and Cherinob executing them, in order to secure Pinkell and Viola's rescue attempts while Minshus helps Oceanoe's mind heal from the torture and poison. Adrastus fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Nov 6, 2013 |
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Yeah, when I posted the link, I forgot to mention that this guy's a little to the right of Orson Scott Card on gay issues.
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# ? Nov 6, 2013 11:41 |
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Sorry to derail from homofascism, but is there anywhere besides Scribd to get Anime Is The Tie That Binds? Scribd just asks for money and doesn't let me get the file.
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# ? Nov 6, 2013 14:52 |
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BKPR posted:Sorry to derail from homofascism, but is there anywhere besides Scribd to get Anime Is The Tie That Binds? Scribd just asks for money and doesn't let me get the file.
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# ? Nov 6, 2013 15:38 |
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All of that stuff is still around, courtesy of The Saddest Rhino. http://www.scribd.com/Snapperiffic
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# ? Nov 6, 2013 16:27 |
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Adrastus posted:That dozerfleet poo poo is absolutely gold, holy jesus I went to college with this dude and interacted with him many times as he was in the same program as friends of mine. He's one of the most threatening and disconcerting people I've ever met in my life and the picture painted by his "work" gives a pretty accurate picture of what he's like IRL. He has profiles on his wiki detailing the lives of random people from his collage program who never said more than a few things to him, and keeps records of girls who touched him +10 years earlier. Been morbidly obsessed with his output since first meeting him. Horror Hints: Read everything involved with "Dozerfleet music" for mondo serial killer shudders. And I'd also like to echo that after encountering the sheer volume of his solitary obsession a lot of the casual teen-dork content seems comparatively bland.
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I don't think classmates like A Gnarlicious Bro can understand the genius behind the Dozerfleet founder's works. What about his seminal campaign concerning condom use? What Condoms Don't Protect You Fromquote:What Condoms Don't Protect You From is a PSA campaign that was started by the Dozerfleet founder in September of 2008, originally for the fall semester TV Production Writing class with Clayton Rye at Ferris State University. Have you accepted condoms as your personal savior? quote:The first of many clips in this ad shows a teenage girl curled up in shame on the floor. She looks up at the camera, and reminds the audience that paying for condoms on a regular basis costs as much as paying for cigarettes on a regular basis. The point being made is that condoms don't protect from lifestyle expenses. I guess condoms are expensive when you're regularly having sex and not updating an insane wiki. quote:Another scene features another teenage girl, reminding audiences of just how specific the instructions are on the right way to use one. A condom cannot protect you from your own incompetence. The next scene features a basketball player that reminds viewers that a condom is only as good as the areas it actually shields. Numerous diseases can still be transferred if any infected area comes in contact with another host, including areas that are not shielded properly. So for some, and depending on the disease, a full body condom would be needed in order to shield from disease. That's why all condom manufacturers include 300 page technical guides to help you encase your whole body in a latex leotard. quote:Another teenage girl comes on, complaining about how her boyfriend couldn't keep a secret. Condoms cannot protect your reputation. A minister comes on and reminds viewers that if they're under-aged, they have to betray everyone in their lives who is trying to protect them just to get what they think they want. Which could lead to trusting someone else who is untrustworthy. Not only is that foolish, but it involves dishonesty. Dishonesty and the guilt associated with it, and the consequences of such dishonesty and guilt, cannot be stopped by a condom. Don't you stupid fuckers get it? Condoms only protect you from having babies!!! quote:A man caught by his wife cheating on him shows up in a divorce court, and reminds viewers that if you're caught in the act, the damage it will do to you cannot be stopped by a condom. A NASCAR driver then tells audiences that a car having an airbag is no excuse to drive like an idiot. Therefore, "why use a thin sheet of latex as an excuse to copulate like one?" This is followed up by an insurance salesman, who gives takes the sex industry's own statistics and throws those statistics right back at them. He points out that assuming the "99% effective" rating they give is accurate (which it isn't,) that means more than 100,000 or more customers per year in the United States alone are potentially being cheated by product defects. And in the game of recreational sex, product defects can mean death. A casino operator also mocks the statistics, comparing recreational sex to Russian Roulette. Clearly, the solution is to ban condoms. quote:An offscreen narrator gets right to the point: "No condom can protect you from yourself." Text on the screen dissolves in, reading : "Self Control," while a girl off-camera with a "black" accent proclaims: "It’s priceless!" The scenery shows a used condom lying next to a tombstone. In fine print, the ad attributes its sponsors; saying that they provided they ad "to encourage healthy living." "Has to be a black accent, turn away anyone with a white accent please." - Dozerfleet Founder Anyway, I personally thought this campaign was pure genius. It's pretty clear to me that other people weren't ready to have their minds blown by the Dozerfleet founder, as explained by him: quote:Reactions were about as predicted they would be. Students who had been involved in more politically-correct ads were visibly uncomfortable with the existence of this ad script campaign. The one submitted for Clayton's class got the most strong reaction, with Clayton himself showing concern that the tombstone was "a bit cheesy and over-the-top." The second ad didn't cause quite as much of a scene. Part of this had to do with the fact that nearly every ideology imaginable was in COMM 385 in the spring of 2009, whereas a few too many students in the fall of 2008 in TV Production Writing class were dye-in-the-wool liberal. Goddamn liberals.
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# ? Nov 6, 2013 17:33 |
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They say brushing your teeth is healthy, but what They don't tell you is that if you get stabbed in the face with a knife, floss won't protect you.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:They say brushing your teeth is healthy, but what They don't tell you is that if you get stabbed in the face with a knife, floss won't protect you. Toothbrushes don't protect you from the shame of stuffing a bag of cheetos in your mouth.
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quote:Another teenage girl comes on, complaining about how her boyfriend couldn't keep a secret. Condoms cannot protect your reputation. A minister comes on and reminds viewers that if they're under-aged, they have to betray everyone in their lives who is trying to protect them just to get what they think they want. Which could lead to trusting someone else who is untrustworthy. Not only is that foolish, but it involves dishonesty. Dishonesty and the guilt associated with it, and the consequences of such dishonesty and guilt, cannot be stopped by a condom.
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quote:The first of many clips in this ad shows a teenage girl curled up in shame on the floor. She looks up at the camera, and reminds the audience that paying for condoms on a regular basis costs as much as paying for cigarettes on a regular basis. The point being made is that condoms don't protect from lifestyle expenses. "Man all this sex I'm having is costing me a fortune in condoms. I better switch to abstinence." -a thing no human being has ever said in all of human history.
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Vaginapocalypse posted:I don't think classmates like A Gnarlicious Bro can understand the genius behind the Dozerfleet founder's works. What about his seminal campaign concerning condom use? What Condoms Don't Protect You From I work diligently to accept the full breadth of his transcendent cannon into my heart, but am time and again rebuffed by the depth of his passion.
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Joshlemagne posted:"Man all this sex I'm having is costing me a fortune in condoms. I better switch to abstinence." -a thing no human being has ever said in all of human history. Well, I've heard variations on that but usually people just grab the free condoms everyone give out.
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# ? Nov 6, 2013 21:19 |
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How much sex are these people having if it costs them more than a cigarette habit? How much do condoms cost over in the states, barring free ones?
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# ? Nov 6, 2013 21:22 |
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According to the Walgreens website, the current going price of a pack of 36 condoms is 20-25 bucks.
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# ? Nov 6, 2013 21:27 |
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So I guess that would make them more expensive by unit than a pack of cigarettes? Could this Dozerfleet person be right?
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Only if you have sex like 6-7 times in the timespan it takes you to go through one pack of cigarettes.
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Swan Oat posted:So I guess that would make them more expensive by unit than a pack of cigarettes? Could this Dozerfleet person be right? He was in college at the time, where you can generally get boatloads of free condoms pretty much everywhere (health center, dean of students' office, LGBTQ club meetings, you name it).
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Apparently not all of this guy's stuff exists only on wiki pages and his own imagination. He might be the only TVtroper to actually get something on TV.quote:Blood Over Water is a mystery thriller television miniseries originally scheduled for release on the Ferris Access Channel for the spring season of 2010. It was created by television major and football player Chris Wilson and TV major student Cassie Tilne; and it was produced and co-wrote by the AMCl and David Stiefel. It formerly went by other working titles; such as Bogged, Mountain of Cabal and The Twin Conspiracy. On Thanksgiving Day, November 22nd of 2012 around 2:00 AM EST, it was successfully converted to red-cyan anaglyph 3D; and was also edited into a single film. A later 2013 re-release made for 3D as an optional feature in multiple formats. This poo poo right here. This is filmmaking at its finest. You can tell which character The Dozerfleet FounderTM plays in this abomination of cinema because he's the only character with a bad electronically lowered voice.
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Robot Style posted:Apparently not all of this guy's stuff exists only on wiki pages and his own imagination. He might be the only TVtroper to actually get something on TV. Sadly, it was never actually aired because of a number of problems all attributable to people other than the Dozerfleet founder. This is discussed in some length in the year-by-year section.
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# ? Nov 7, 2013 00:48 |
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Sailor Viy posted:It would be amazing if these narratives only existed in the form of wiki synopses. Somewhat off topic, but has anyone ever written a story in a wiki format? Works War Z told the story of an Event through the recollections of those involved in the Event, and there's a recent video game that told a story via discovering stuff around the protagonist's house. This question is kinda personal to me, because a long time ago I had a story that I wanted to write, but realized I couldn't do it justice as a traditional narrative. I briefly considered translating it to a fan wiki in which readers would learn the story via an in-universe educational encyclopedia. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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SCP kinda does that, but they post a lot of regular stories on their site too and it's not really one overall narrative told entirely through wiki pages, more a setting.
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Robot Style posted:This poo poo right here. This is filmmaking at its finest. You can tell which character The Dozerfleet FounderTM plays in this abomination of cinema because he's the only character with a bad electronically lowered voice. Oh my god.
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# ? Nov 7, 2013 02:04 |
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MisterBibs posted:Somewhat off topic, but has anyone ever written a story in a wiki format? Works War Z told the story of an Event through the recollections of those involved in the Event, and there's a recent video game that told a story via discovering stuff around the protagonist's house. The Dionaea House story arguably fits that mold. Though it's not a user editable wiki, instead it's presented as several interconnected websites: http://www.dionaea-house.com/
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RoeCocoa posted:Oh my god. I'm stupidly excited that people are finding this poo poo since his output is a bottomless well of increasingly specific self-justifying lunacy. It's like a one-man fandom for his own fantasy media empire. This was shown on an actual theater screen at the end of the yeah TV program "fest" or whatever. As shocking as the quality of it is, it's WAY funnier on the big screen and bookended by HD student documentaries and short films.
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MisterBibs posted:Somewhat off topic, but has anyone ever written a story in a wiki format? Works War Z told the story of an Event through the recollections of those involved in the Event, and there's a recent video game that told a story via discovering stuff around the protagonist's house. Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius is not such a thing, but it is about one. Trope: subverted.
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This quote:Yo-Splaz! was a newsletter written by the Dozerfleet founder from June of 1999 until around August of 2000, intended for a friend/romantic interest of the time named Carly e: If you don't mind prying Gnarlicious Bro...did he strike you as mentally ill when you knew him? I thought he was just another loathsome, oblivious weirdo at first but this wiki is a scary level of obsessive. He includes so much embarrassing poo poo he'd have no reason to mention, along with the actual obituary for another of his 'girlfriends' who died of an overdose and a blow by blow recap of his reaction to it. Saint Drogo fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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# ? Nov 7, 2013 02:26 |
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The passive voice is used extensively by both Dozerfleet and Ulillillia. Extreme irritation is the effect such voice has upon the reader. Knowledge about whether the passive voice is a "thing" among mentally ill graphomaniacs could be possessed by someone in this thread and shared, perhaps?
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echopapa posted:Extreme irritation is the effect such voice has upon the reader.
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MisterBibs posted:Somewhat off topic, but has anyone ever written a story in a wiki format? Works War Z told the story of an Event through the recollections of those involved in the Event, and there's a recent video game that told a story via discovering stuff around the protagonist's house. There was a story called WikiHistory was was written more as the comments section for a Wikipedia article about time travelers revising the page after they made updates. The problem with using that kind of format directly is you wind up with a story with no characters, only concepts.
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Random Stranger posted:There was a story called WikiHistory was was written more as the comments section for a Wikipedia article about time travelers revising the page after they made updates. "WikiHistory" is so good that nobody else needs to do another.
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I, for one, am glad that the founder of Dozerfleet has kept such extensive records of the intricacies of his Windows folder structure.Dozerfleet Productions: Divisions posted:On Dozerfleet PCs, all literature for Dozerfleet is managed by Dozerfleet Literature except for the founder's legal documents not pertaining to Dozerfleet, as well as for letters written to friends and items of interest that would have been better suited for The Dozerfleet Blog. Those written documents are usually stored in a folder titled "Memoirs," with appropriate subfolders based on who writes which document. Albums Master posted:The Albums Master was an icon library and file organization scheme, employed by the Dozerfleet founder during the Cormorant era. It is considered a project in the history of Dozerfleet Labs. It was used from 2003-2006, and was later replaced by the Dozerfleet divisions and Windows Libraries. DozerfleetTV posted:DozerfleetTV began as a part of the Albums Master, an icon collection created in the Cormorant era for coloring folder icons in PCs and Macs. After Cormorant changed its name to Dozerfleet, a different file hierarchy was officially adopted. Control of the maps for projects fell under the discretion of Dozerfleet Comics, which would also oversee labels and random content. Web Albums were sent to a "warehouse" folder shared by the different divisions called "Dozerfleet Web." This warehouse folder would store all content for websites for Dozerfleet main, for Dozerfleet Comics, and for the wikis. What's hot this year: May 2006 posted:All projects stored under various project names were instead redirected. Since this was still done on XP, everything was in the My Documents folder. A "My Text" folder was created from there, and from there, Dozerfleet Literature was defined as the place to store all text files of projects, with subfolders for each project. This process was repeated so that all former Cormorant images that were relevant to the new Dozerfleet operations would be placed in appropriate sub-folders for images. The image warehouse would come to be known as "Dozerfleet Comics," which would also be the brand imprint for franchises such as The Gerosha Chronicles and Stationery Voyagers.
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# ? Nov 7, 2013 19:32 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 18:32 |
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So this man is the nexus point of OCD, autism and narcissism, isn't he?
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